The BASS VIOLENCE headphone - Zeos Eris

[@ResolveReviews]

Two things: 1) I do really hope folks give that EQ profile a try, since I kept it still a bit V-shaped, just with more sub-bass and the rest balanced out a bit more. Yes some may prefer the unhinged levels of mid bass on offer here, but you have to remember that a lot of folks don't fully know what they like until they hear it, so think of this as an opportunity to do just that. 2) Zeos may be the best of us. He KNEW this wasn't going to go well for us graph sniffers, and he had us review it anyways. Give his channel some love: www.youtube.com/@ZReviews

[@ZReviews]

"remember that a lot of folks don't fully know what they like until they hear it".. Exactly my pitch for Eris. Thanks for the review.

[@TomStacy1]

@@mattrismatt I searched that item number on Amazon, and all it showed me was canned meat and Zippo lighters... got a better way to find the product?

[@numadario]

@@TomStacy1the perforated sheep skin is in the canned meat

[@_Key]

unrelated to this video but was wondering if you EQ you Bathys?

[@andrewgiovannini6613]

@@_Key In a recent podcast, I think he mentioned he was using the "dynamic" profile, but maybe they will clarify.

[@jbecks35]

Every resolve review should come with the disclaimer, his favorite drink is water, his favorite car is a toyota camry, his favorite music is jazz, he is canadian.

[@ZReviews]

He also dislikes HUMAN FALLIBILITY . Just saying.

[@TheHEADPHONEShow]

All of this is correct

[@antoine9765]

The more I learn about audio, the more canadian I get.

[@ResolveReviews]

​@@ZReviews Human fallibility in general is indeed a great source of sadness for me. I would love to be able to take reports from others at face value... but I know that I cannot.

[@MattBorchert]

Jazz is a weird callout. If Resolve really is pumpkin spice levels of basic, he'd just listen to whatever was top on the pop charts at any moment in time. Jazz is the Pagani Zonda, not a Camry.

[@ZReviews]

Thanks for the review guys, about what I had predicted. Was hoping at least one of y'all would join the Cult of Eris. Get you next time! Haven't been a ton of reports about piercing treble, will pursue to see if that is anyone else's issue. Noticed Resolve didn't mention it so it might be a Cameron thing. And while reduced I can guarantee there is indeed midrange just pushed way out in the wild soundstage. As for bass, nobody has called them Muddy. The opposite actually since most "EXTRA BASS" headphones DO tend to be quite muddy. That Harmonic Distortion / resonance is likely how Eris does Soundstage like it does. You hear the physical echo in the cup which is not something ANY headphone that you measure will do it. Probably being phased out as the frequencies hit the mic twice. Would be interesting to test that.. Not sure how. Either way it really doesn't matter what any reviewer says (even me). It's all about that owner response and the owner response has been overwhelmingly positive period even people who aren't fans of mine have gotten sets and had their whole ____ turned upside down. Thanks to everyone who supports the project. Don't bully these guys too much! Just a little.. Buncha Wankars!

[@jordanwehler7196]

Well I got my pair, and I am indeed one of the people you said would love them in your review. Are they a neutral headphone? No, but you never claimed them to be. I think some people are definitely having the reaction you wanted.

[@GadZookz]

@@jordanwehler7196Zeos will remain a potent force in audio for decades to come and will exist in digital form well beyond the Singularity. ✌🏻

[@dangerzone007]

It looks like you need to get a new accurate measurement rig

[@marks8ut]

I love Zeos, started following ZReviews b/c I found I liked what he likes. He has guided many personal purchases. Bought Eris and have to agree with this review. Mine are unlistenable for me.

[@isadorealire5722]

I enjoy a different, fun headphone. We don't all want to rub oil on ourselves and roll around on yoga mats with graphs and charts on them and compare everything to Sundara while humping the HD600.

[@layfron1990]

I mean this is like asking tea aficionados to taste and review vodka.

[@ZReviews]

Tea people would surprise you. These are like Hard Chocolate Milk.

[@sidesaladaudio]

“Immeasurable things scare audiophiles” How the times are changing. I could’ve swore in the past it was the other way around where measurements scare “Audiophiles” 😅

[@ResolveReviews]

Oh they do. There are two kinds of audiophiles hahah.

[@ZReviews]

@@ResolveReviews It def works both ways.. MY POWER CABLE IS BEST.. can't measure it. Bankrupt.. MY DAC IS THE MOST LINEAR.. Can measure it, it isn't. Bankrupt..

[@ResolveReviews]

@@ZReviews We're all doomed.

[@theh0r5e90]

I don't want to listen with my eyes but sometimes it's hard

[@chrisflynn2735]

Dre became a billionaire from Beats so maybe Zeos is trying for an upgrade to his standard of living with these.

[@ZReviews]

Upvote and Fedora Tilt.

[@trog69]

The Eris cans have replaced my HD6xx's as daily drivers. FUN is exactly right.

[@ZReviews]

Forgot to mention the price.. 250. And the materials, you said cheap feeling but are Injection molded ABS? Plastic, Glass and Aluminum. The wire is the best part, just a brief mention of that.

[@ResolveReviews]

I actually like the build a lot better than the other HarmonicDyne headphones I've reviewed. And it looks better than most of them too IMO.

[@stevetech5150]

had you charged an additional 0 on the price, they probably would be worshiping these.

[@ResolveReviews]

@@stevetech5150 LOL not with that FR.

[@ZReviews]

@@stevetech5150 Next time. You got it.

[@nukert658]

Z didnt you say the replacement headbands would be sold too? I only can find earpads, I want to purchase a replacement headband for my zeus elites.

[@abrahamkimu8683]

I will say, that last point that Zeos made about "if not for the music then what for?" is a good point of discussion.

[@maxcardif9879]

I would say he has the wrong end of the proverbial stick. This is ultimately a product for consumer add%cts to add to their collection, instead of searching much more on the music medium itself. The consumption of product is part of their enjoyment instead of being a means to an end to purly experience what they see as the art, the music, exclusively. Those that only use one universal headphone because the headphone isn't part of their enjoyment.

[@daviddier9865]

That kinda falls apart when you realise it's ultimately to sell product not music. It's for people who think of their headphones are the artistry that dictates the music. Part of the act. There is nothing wrong with that, but it ultimately comes at the expense of music consumption. You are indexing for what music sounds good with that particular tuning, instead of choosing music based on exposure exclusively. It becomes a limitation for music.

[@sephondranzer]

How does that work when most of music sounds horrid on those headphones.

[@lowrider007007]

Quoting GoldenSound at the end of the video, "This is very very unusual approach to making a headphone which for most people is probably not going to work", he should really clarify what he means by saying "most people" which most people? the common person on the street that listens to Beats or cheap earbuds from the local gas station? I'm certainly not buying a pair of Eris cans, I know they won't be for me, but I know the average person on the street would probably enjoy them because to the 'untrained' it would sound 'fun' and enjoyable to them. I remember when I first started listening to music, I just wanted everything to sound like a smiley face EQ, and for a lot of people that is enough, they are happy, for a minority of us it turns into a passion/hobby and our tastes evolve/change, but we shouldn't try to convert people into audiophiles, as a self confessed audiophile myself I believe that is wrong, "oh but if we educated them they would understand that they could have it better', no, stop, not everyone has to fall within your target curve to enjoy music, really, this isn't a religion. I own a lot of headphones, have experienced some pretty high end gear, but I still always tell people don't go down this road unless you really want to, if you can enjoy your music with your Samsung buds or a little radio with a single mono speaker then maybe that's enough, I'm not going to throw a stone in their pond. I do agree with Zeos that that there is really is no shortage of well measuring headphones available that 'play it safe', he wanted to create a 'fun' sounding headphone and this is the result, and this is where I strongly disagree with GoldenSounds comment at the end of the video, I think for a lot of people this headphone will equate to 'fun' sounding for them.

[@sephondranzer]

Over 50%? Take any honest sampling of people that should hold true. Dude the mid range is gone on those… You could make these same arguments you’re making with human feces, the essay and all. They need to draw a line - this is a pretty obvious one. Like what is a bad headphone to you if this isn’t it?

[@lowrider007007]

@@sephondranzer I agree the midrange is gone, but like I said, nearly everyone I knew growing up, myself included loved the smiley EQ, high bass, low mids, and high treble, my younger brothers only a few years ago wanted the same, crazy bass and highs, that's all they cared about for years, a lot of people like that sound profile, look how popular Beats were for example! Believe it or not I actually agree with 'most' of what the headphone crew have said, just not with GoldenSounds closing remarks regarding it wouldn't work for most people, people in the audiophile community I agree, but we don't even make up 1% of the total headphone market, not even close, we are a drop in the ocean.

[@Voidward]

The frequency response looks like a near perfect inverse of how I actually EQ my headphones. Amazing.

[@mrbrogathacademy]

I used the Geekria tuning discs with mine, to tone down the sibilance. With those installed, I love these. I use them for both music and gaming at my desk. Am I crazy? In more ways than my choice of headphones, absolutely. Does it really matter, given how subjective sound enjoyment is? Nay. I also enjoy the sorts of headphones you guys like too. For a while I was using it alongside my HD650 in my office. They complement each other fairly well, in my opinion.

[@ZReviews]

I had considered a foam tuning for the rare treble spikes, but overall that hurt the rest of the presentation. Glad you sorted it.

[@notesscrotes4360]

I appreciate Zeos' sell on the Eris. I've been using CVJ Konoka IEMs lately, $30 tribrid IEMs with a toggleable vibration woofer (as in, it straight up just vibrates) and extremely OD tweeter. I ended up loving them more than my meta harman-tuned "declared perfect" Crinacle IEMs and I use them every day. We've come so far with regards to accuracy in audio reproduction that we're bringing the crazy designs and sound signatures from the wild west days back for the fun of it, and I really appreciate it.

[@stratelite1337]

Shouts out to Zeos for the balls to send these to reviewers that in all likelyhood would not like them, and shouts out to The Headphone Show team for not pulling any punches.

[@ZReviews]

Just wait till I get hold of Golden's future Headphone Collab. I will have words.

[@Violet-ui]

Now I know why Zeos' reviews often made no sense

[@ZReviews]

You have an anime profile pic.. YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE

[@Farengast]

I agree with Zeos mostly about speakers. Headphones.... My dude is into some freaky stuff.

[@ZReviews]

@@Farengast Its more being bored with what is out there. I can respect greatness but man is the landscape bland.

[@TheRealAstro_]

​@@ZReviewsLmaoooo

[@mancatto_44]

​@@ZReviews 100% agree. I missed unconventional or even esoteric tuning nowadays after the 30th pair of conventional tuned sets.

[@adamgarlow5347]

I've been using them daily for a few weeks now and my opinion is if I could have one pair of headphones, it would probably not be Eris. But the second absolutely would be. It's different and fun and for what I've listened to so far, enjoyable. Not to mention they're exceedingly comfortable.

[@ZReviews]

You are the person I am looking for. 2nd favorite in a collection is something to be proud of.

[@onse13]

Z was giving out "Lo-Res" stickers in CanJam London, and the Eris definitely needs one printed on its box 😂

[@ZReviews]

I mean. It would have been funny.

[@AlexandraYume]

I added one under Zeos' Logo on my signed Eris.

[@CammyFi]

​@@AlexandraYumeuwu

[@denislemieux7294]

@@ZReviewsWhere can I buy your stickers? You have them for all of your channels?

[@JohnClarkW]

I am saddened by these. The comfort sounds like I would love it, but I hate it when treble gets too spicy, and this seems like it went too far on that. I don't want to EQ it, at that price point it should just sound good. Golden describes these a lot like I view the HBB Hades IEM, but that IEM is 10% of the price of the Eris, and it has some mid-bass to go with the rest.

[@ZReviews]

Treble is not a common complaint. If you have sensitive issues up there it might not be for you but overall that isn't the consensus.

[@EZpZeero]

The good thing about a headphone like this is that it goes so far to the extreme of what it wants to be, that now a version 2 can be made by scaling back the extremes and finding a good balance for overall quality. maybe

[@liammadridista2395]

So it's spicy mud? 😂 Hats off to Zeos for sending them to you even though he probably knew this would be the outcome.

[@ZReviews]

It was foreseen in the stars. Written in the Necronomicon and an unchangable pathos we humans must abide.

[@WillieBloom]

It seems as if y'all were as kind as you could have been. For all the hard punches you were still holding back. That's cool in my book. I hope Zeos isn't discouraged. This is just the first iteration.

[@ZReviews]

I thought they punched pretty hard considering.

[@ggman8216]

I bought the Zeus after watching Zeos talking about and it has since then become my favorite headphones ever, but I do EQ it a lot by removing a it of the mid basa mud, increasing the sub bass and taming the highs. I would love to see someone compare the two.

[@ggman8216]

They actually mentioned the Zeus in the video...

[@jasoncasto910]

I can’t take the one guy seriously when he has a pair of Zu audios in the background….

[@invisiblekid99]

While I wait for mine to arrive, I will say this. I don't think these are for anyone NOT having or looking for a headphone collection. These are very different for when you in the mode for what these deliver. I have 6 pairs, a couple top tier for closed dynamic driver, planar and open (some having both of these). And I have a couple that just sound different. I'm with Zeo's when he liked the NightOwls/Hawks in that, they do not sound conventionally good, just, different. Having a couple of "out-there" cans is fine by me. Cant wait to try these.

[@ChrisoneillART]

Boy this review had me worried before. But now that I own a pair I can confidently say the Eris are legit amazing. Absolutely one of my most favorite headphones. I guess mine actually came with Mids... doesn't feel like they are missing anything. I'm honestly baffled by the less than favorable review. And for $250 these have no right to be as good as they are. And they make all my other headphones feel boring.

[@punishthemeatpocket]

Can you test a song for me, Self vs Self by Pendulum. It's an extremely bass heavy song, curious how it sounds on these headphones.

[@marifrit2490]

I really don't get the super scooped mids and the fairly low subbass. Subbass thump is the most exciting part of a heavy bass and I don't think bass enjoyers hate mids so much they don't want the mids to exist.

[@ZReviews]

I feel like the sub-bass is there, its just ALL bass all the time. Mid, Sub, River.. all the Bass

[@anthonyharding4380]

same, my cans are missing nothing in the bass spectrum. I found the mids can be recessed, depending on what they are plugged into. ymmv.

[@LyuboA]

it's the Best headphones I've ever tried hell i even bought a second pair just to have a spare cause who know how long they will be on sale i missed the Athena but i guess i was for the best this is actually modified Athena

[@kyon_kyonstar]

I really like Zeos' point at the end of it, considering, you know, he made this headphone and he could just shill the shit out of it if given the platform. But to say that, like, this isn't the perfect headphone, this isn't the only headphone, this is just a fun headphone. As a psychopath who has over 50 headphones, I like having the Eris because it's just so fucking different you know I said in the tungsten chat I have almost all the sennheiser 600 series headphones and I love them but the eris is different from them to such a degree where it gets pulled out a lot and used a lot especially with gaming and listening to music when i just want to kick back chill have a super fucking comfy headphone that's just gonna be you know Kind of fun and interesting. I respect the review. I don't think that the Eris is a bad headphone. I think it is a wildly different headphone than the measurement crowd would want. But I love it

[@AllTheHandlesTaken]

They seem like they would be good for the gym. The sound signature would piss me off and I could channel my violent urges into the bar.

[@ZReviews]

Hey a Sale is a Sale. Go for it.

[@YTHandlesWereAMistake]

Such a missed opportunity to call it a toast on toast type of sandwhich.

[@noah_the_nerd]

You may be interested to learn that Wikipedia has an article on the "toast sandwich"!

[@YTHandlesWereAMistake]

@@noah_the_nerd that is exactly what I was referring to, yea

[@noah_the_nerd]

@@YTHandlesWereAMistake Ah, apologies for underestimating you! Glad to see a fellow toast sandwich enjoyer in the wild.

[@cthulhu-gu9re]

favorite review for these so far but dam pink noise for burn it its like telling them to go to sleep turn the volume up on some violent sounds to burn them in and stretch the cups XD

[@XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments]

I love mid-bass from 90 hz to 160 hz (this "mid-bass") and 1k - 3k region EQ anyway for EVERY headphones is NECESSARY

[@NoHairMan]

I like the honesty as always.

[@ZReviews]

I'd be ok with like 10% less

[@NoHairMan]

@@ZReviews I respect how well you take the criticism though. Also funny response^^

[@Chris-tf7gi]

no. its not April first. :) VERY interesting! will need to see what Z says about his headphones too.

[@ZReviews]

Don't listen to me. Read the comments on the forums. or under the other reviews out there. That is where the truth will always lie.

[@Bootrosgali]

This is so hilariously at odds with another review I've just seen.

[@HareDeLune]

12:22 These headphones sound like "walking through a swamp; occasionally getting impaled by spikes." Ouch! 😟

[@verboten8]

I kinda... like them? I guess? They just make me smile at how wonky they are. Yes they're all over the place, and since I'm old, the highs aren't that offensive, but at the same time they're not... neat for lack of better words. They're there with the HE-R9 for me. Fun, quirky, and a hot mess.

[@ZReviews]

THAT.. The smile comment. THAT is all I am after.

[@mudibluz2006]

This sounds like the perfect gaming headphones for shooters

[@ZReviews]

It kicks ass in gaming.

[@1812JSmith]

The Eris FR profile reminds me a bit of the Amiron Home with a upper base bump starting from lower mids and a pronounced wideband 2k dip, obviously not to the level like the Eris. Still the Amiron is my favorite headphone amongst my HD600, HD620S, HD560S, admittedly I do EQ the Amiron to bring the bump down and the dip up a bit. I get the FR of the Eris. As for the treble, as I'm in my early 50s and can't hear that much beyond 7k at my preferred listening volume that is low like 50dB & below measured at 1cm from the driver with a real SPL meter, the typical Beyer 8k - 9k treble peak doesn't bother me one bit but likely helps me to hear it a bit better instead. This may explain why some find the Eris treble troublesome like Cameron who can still hear close to 20kHz, while some would find the treble OK.

[@MrSmitheroons]

Always remember: You listen with your ears, not with the discourse. Also: any FR is gonna be half the story, the other half being the tracks you listen to. Still gonna watch this anyway. I think we need Zeos's out there, because our objective understanding is always playing catch-up to a very complex ground truth (hearing and audio enjoyment is complicated). People who will pursue what sounds right to them, discourse/measurements bedamned, will take the steps to find things other people might not have tried. Or serve a niche the dominant discourse will never serve. So yeah, I hope there are always people like Zeos in audio doing it like he does it.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Zeos is a car salesman.

[@ZReviews]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez You are just cruising the comments like me.. Only so anti me.

[@ZReviews]

Thanks Smitheroons.

[@barneyrubble9309]

i actually didnt hate these at CanJam London...but being older, the treble wasnt an issue . I think many will like this quite a lot. Zeos is clearly a bass head cos he recomended some pads for the Atrium that made them so bass heavy as to be unlistenable

[@impuls60]

Ofc we want a deep sub bass, but its the most difficult thing to achive in regards to the working physics involved. You also need high X max for bass, but the worst kind of distortions comes from the coil beeing out of the magnetic gap. On speaker side we now have driver with 2 magnets so when coil goes out of one field it goes into another field so it always see the same constant strength magnetic field. I dont know if any headphone driver have this tech yet..

[@ZReviews]

So what you are saying... Is my next one needs a subwoofer attached. And to hire a scientist.

[@Aryzon13]

I don't think so either. However I do think that Focal have cracked the code with the 2022 Utopia headphone (which to my knowledge use a modified speaker driver). At stock they sound alright. Nothing special. But you can push the bass into the stratosphere and have zero impact on the rest of the presentation. They are very amp picky, and the only amp I can personally confirm that works with them is the Feliks Euforia that I personally use. And yes, it does matter. It's not a meme. I run mine with a total of 12db bass boost and at that point there is indeed nothing that can compete with it. If you ever get the chance to try them out, do give them a go. Just make sure you do use a good tube amp and EQ the bass.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

​@@Aryzon13 are you sure they don't bottom out? My sample did.

[@Aryzon13]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez Original or the 2022 version?

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@Aryzon13 2022. It makes a clipping noise when there is significant subbass content eq'd only slightly in that region. This has never happened to you?

[@False_Star]

The fact you guys hate it, means that it’s a fun headphone, as I’ve clearly seen over time, fun isn’t something you guys seem to like much…

[@Lipbarm-m9z]

Maybe they dont have a purchase validation addiction and use the music as their enjoyment? Just a thought.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

When people say "audiophiles only listen to their gear and not music" , they're describing you.

[@Lunaq]

Wym ​@@En_Joshi-Godrez

[@False_Star]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez I don’t call my self an audiophile cuz I’m not a douche haha

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@False_Star yeah, your comment says the opposite.

[@JOJOSSTAR1]

"In 2011, NPD Group reported that Beats' market share was 64% in the U.S. for headphones priced higher than $100, and the brand was valued at $1 billion in September 2013.[3][4]" I can totally see why Z would take that approach.

[@ZReviews]

Imagine Beats... But Good in other areas?!

[@JOJOSSTAR1]

@@ZReviews ❤

[@kingforkings]

Finally you guys rephrased the opionion about sound stage. I love soundstage like the NDH30 and Sony MDR M1ST do, but no further, where it makes the rest of the sound get bad.

[@ZReviews]

NDH30 so good.

[@danadirectmarketing]

It would have been interesting for you to have somebody on who loves this set as a counter-balance to this presentation.

[@mm7963]

Do you mean Zeos..?

[@danadirectmarketing]

@@mm7963 Actually, I was thinking a 3rd party reviewer who liked the product, and had nothing to do with the headphone would have made a good addition to the vid.

[@ZReviews]

@@mm7963 HBB would have been fine. Or Mars Marslander. Not too many others have been sent Eris. It would be fine to just have read some positive reviews on comments elsewhere to balance.

[@nextsibling]

Sometimes the quest for the One True Frequency Response is not the only path.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

It is the right one, though. That doesn't equate to there only being one option.

[@artureff3046]

And if you see me walking down the line With my favorite honky tonk in mind Well, I'll be here around supper time With my can(s) .... and a bunch of wine Beer drinkers and hell raisers, yeah Baby, don't you want to come with me?

[@patrickmartineau1008]

Always down for a good ol' Tyll tribute.

[@arress2052]

I got to try them out today and they aren’t as bad as people are making them out to be. Yes, they are bassy but so what. You can EQ to drop the thump and the bass isn’t as bloated as I have heard on other cans.

[@humanbass]

Reminds me of that Simpsons ep where Homer designs a car for his brother company.

[@ZReviews]

That did come to mind once I knew people were going to measure her

[@jtiizii5163]

This was such a great review! You guys did an amazing job with this combining thoughts and including Z in it. Absolutely wonderful and well made! Great job to everyone and congrats to Z for making this not giving a shit what anyone else thinks lol.

[@gabsriel]

This seems to be THE niche pair of headphones. I mean this in a good way. I like my bright pairs of headphones because they are used for certain purposes. I would like a comparison between these and the Campfire Cascade. It would be fun IMO.

[@tradehut2782]

bruh stop justifying bad headphones

[@gabsriel]

@@tradehut2782 "bad" headphones can be used for a specific purpose, not "if I had to pick just 1". That's my point here.

[@BSD2000]

I can't wait to get my pair, ordered them a few days ago. I own Sennheiser HD 800's, 650's, 660-S2's, Hifiman Arya's, various Focal headphones (and car audio speakers and professional studio monitors), Neumann NDH-20's (and various professional studio monitors, STAX 009's and L300 Limited's. I own an RME ADI-2 Pro fs, Hifiman EF-400, professional recording gear from Korg, Universal Audio, Neumann, Neve, Studer, Revox, Parasound, McIntosh, Paradigm and Focusrite. I own a fantastic sounding (and very expensive) turntable rig. My trust in KZbin reviewers will hinge on MY review of the Eris headphones; I'll either agree with the critical reviews or I'll side with Zeos. From that point on, I'll know who I can trust.

[@user-fj8mi4iq9y]

No, you just have an addiction. Sober up.

[@BSD2000]

@@user-fj8mi4iq9y True. lol

[@ZReviews]

@@user-fj8mi4iq9y Even I agree.

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

No you're delusional and are just stuck in consumerism. If your idea of what KZbinrs are is hinged on this monstrosity, yeah I already know the outcome of that flawed test

[@mimofi]

I didn't eq, then I did, then I purchased Sonarworks SoundID ref and used this incl. headphone profiles. Then I used the neutral profile to .. eq with FR graphs. Then I realized for speakers to correct for room it made sense but for headphones I was basically making my HD800S and HD600 amd HE 1000se and D8000 and Hedd2 and Liric and LCDXC sound ... THE SAME! I no longer EQ headphones and if I can't enjoy them I sell em (liek the LCDXC, Liric). Based on what I understand, I would likely not enjoy these given I'm Canadian and love Jazz lol! Not crazy about too heavy a V tuning. But, if I draw a food analogy, my taste in spice in terms of hot spice it is probably way higher than any normal spice curve would show and my love of scotch and dark roast black no sugar coffee also not likely fitting flavor curve avg I will not judge these and can understand and believe some will love and enjoy. As long as you can enjoy the music you love all is good.

[@sfs03]

Hey just FYI you can put in a code to sonarworks to turn it into a regular EQ program that works for headphone adjustments! “launch SoundID Reference -> click on Add new output in the left sidebar-> Add new preset -> Add a new headphone profile -> at the bottom of the left sidebar click on “Individual calibration” -> enter this code: AA000A -> finish adding the profile. This will provide a flat profile and you can also use the Custom Target to create custom target curve presets.”

[@dante19890]

So this is what Zeos preferable tuning is lmao

[@ZReviews]

Well it started out as filling a gap in the market. Then it turned into something I truly love. Ain't no real nice BASS headphones out there. Just headphones that happen to do bass and not enough of it.

[@themastroiannis]

wow! OUCH!!!

[@johnrus7661]

I love the fact that Zeos and everyone has been such a good sport about it and I'm actually stoked that Zeos made them. I don't think they're for me as I prefer a much more normal sound. But still I think it's cool he made them and others will get to enjoy them.

[@theodorezurla496]

I’m team Zeos on this one.. it gets a little boring when all headphones have coherent balance to them.. bring on the WONK ! 😁

[@ZReviews]

Wonk woNk kWonk Whoonk PHONK.. Listen to Phonk on them. Brazillian Phonk

[@onortosu]

So if you're Zeos, you should buy these as they're made for you, otherwise... He should have addressed the distortions and the burn-in parts of the review.

[@ZReviews]

I didn't get to see the review or even get a preview of their opinions before I was asked to send in a rebuttal, and they wanted something WAY different then what I gave them. It would have made me look like a clown if I read their script.

[@ResolveReviews]

@@ZReviews Hey now, we never actually had a script, and that certainly wasn't the intention of getting a rebuttal. Rather the opposite, we wanted you to provide a palate cleanser of sorts - to repudiate us graph nerds for being graph nerds. What you supplied was perfect.

[@SnowFootprints96]

So for the use of games and movies. I have genuinely fallen in love with these. I understand the measurement issues with them but I am one of the weirdos who seem to like these. I love my hd 6xx and my moondrop para as well. Just for different things at different times.

[@JTB--]

Z is taking Golden and Resolve to court over this review😮

[@ZReviews]

Unlike DCS.. Zeos follows through!

[@advancegeo2986]

​@@ZReviews😂😂

[@HeadphoneHangover]

A respectable harsh review, and I love the honesty. It's why we're all here. I hope Zeos of course does not take it personal, because I am 100% sure there is a market for headphones like these and wish him all the success

[@ZReviews]

As someone who gets drunk on headphones.. You need to do a shot of Eris.

[@HeadphoneHangover]

@@ZReviews Haha, I will no doubt, in time. After all, we all need different flavours in our lives. It would be boring if everything tasted the same, always.

[@mehmetgurdal]

repeat after me folks: Eris pads her Chest repeat the word see the truth

[@ZReviews]

Amen

[@TheBrokenEclipse]

These headphones sound really interestingly, but also odd. I respect Z for creating something that isn't the "normal"!

[@TonyZEHS]

Glad to see no one has yet commented before watching the video in its entirety..?

[@beefsupreme510]

Z said it best at the end. I don’t care about measurements, I just want to enjoy my music

[@mm7963]

Headphones tuned for Tinky Winky. No surprises there...

[@ZReviews]

Who is this man and how do I meet him?

[@taliosnz]

My left ear seems to crackle/distort on certain music, and a certain length of listening time - which seems odd. Also I got a crack in the left headband glass/plastic area around the extension band. I had to drop the bass right down to enjoy it.

[@ZReviews]

Its likely the wires inside the cup. Open it up. Rotate the driver plate or tape the wires and re-assemble.. It happens on a small number of them.

[@miker718]

@@ZReviews That's not the answer. If I buy a headphone, I expect it to work properly, not disassemble it to fix it, that's on you to replace it.

[@gmatthews0]

Your faces🤯Not a big fan of zeos but you have to remember,a lot of us just want good sound,some want bass,some don't etc.Me I happy with my shozy p20s,got lots of others ie fiio fh7 etc but all u want is good sound.

[@aesonone]

i'd go so far to say, even as low as 40->30hz upslope for an effective "big" bass boost effect actually did the trick for me, granted, on an iem that could support it, and with like, electronic music or cinematic effects shit that contains meaningful information there, now that's plenty fun. while an elevation centered in the 50-60hz that is usually considered fine since it's clear of the mud zone, to me still gives off sort of an unpleasant head-pressury thickness instead of power and vibrancy. to be clear i don't mean 0 boost in the... uh... upper-sub-bass, only lowered relative to the near-infra. given that, tellin me a giant midbass hump 20db above the mids is supposed to make it fun and different i'm like nah dude

[@rulerofrecords1]

Only one thing left to do here. GET THE LAWYERS!

[@ZReviews]

I will represent myself. Nobody better at BSing for 3 hours straight that I know.

[@ixoye56]

I find it hard to believe that anyone can like a headphone with that weird frequency range.

[@ZReviews]

They don't measure well. Part of the mystique. Using literal echo in the cups to make soundstage.

[@eba6949]

🤓🤓🤓

[@Camride]

You have to try them, measuring well was never the intended outcome of the Eris.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

​@@Camride they fall outside of the harman research preference boundaries, so the statistical likelihood of them liking it is low. Anythings possible, but we don't view life that way for valid reason.

[@thomasvullings97]

​@@Camride they're not going to like it. Leave it and grow up.

[@carminedesanto6746]

My LCDX (21) tho heavy …have a solid bass and fun performance 🎧🫨

[@fascinatedbyeverything]

Has he ever reviewed the Zu speakers in the background there?

[@jonas_oja]

I agree that the treble spike and mid range dib makes some genres of music suboptimal. BUT for electronic music like infected mushroom, Juno reactor, wateva, Everything everything or deadmau5 it's so much fun.

[@occasionalart7597]

Finally, RayCons in over-ear form /j

[@ZReviews]

When do I get to bang kim? Then break up.. Then start an empire on that fame?

[@Prxyshj]

Are RayCons bass heavy? I haven’t even heard of them but looking for bass heavy ones.

[@stevetech5150]

i don't know you guys obviously, but, i do watch pretty regularly and i would just hypothesize that you guys enjoy products that have a certain sound reproduction that is deemed acceptable by the group of people that you hope or endeavor to associate with more than just enjoying what makes you feel, well, feelings. which is what music is meant to do. when people say "these speakers or headphones match what the artist or engineer meant for you to hear" i am immediately turned off because quite frankly, the artist or engineer has no idea what I hear. the artist makes a piece of music from what they hear. the engineer makes it their own by what they hear. i will make it my own by choosing the reproduction gear that makes me feel what I want to feel. period. no brand name or price range or reviewer will have any impact on my ears and brain telling me....this sounds great!

[@waiik76]

I bought one and I love it!! ❤😂 just fun headphone for music and bass.

[@Reubenhater]

How does the skullcandy crusher evo compare? Better bass or worse than Eris?

[@Turntable100]

I burned mine in for about 4 days straight and mine sound good. No spike in the treble and I'm very sensitive treble. I play mine on the Onix XM5, on high gain. They don't need to be on high gain but to me they sound better on high gain than med gain. Out of the box, I hated them. The mids sounded sucked out and there was a treble peak but the Onix XM5 does special things to headphones.

[@anthonyharding4380]

I had the same experience as you. I've been using mine on an Onix XI1 Alpha and iBasso DC07 Pro, high gain and medium gain respectively. It also took me around 4 days to warm up to them. Makes me wonder what truly happens during burn-in, and question the timeframes. But yeah, I really enjoy them a lot now.

[@ZReviews]

@@anthonyharding4380 Nobody has been able to measure it. But having a virgin pair and 100+ hour pair.. the differences are obvious.

[@syanhc]

Bought these from Zeos personally. Love these!

[@syanhc]

Mad respect to you guys. Love all of you and that you are always honest in your reviews (even if Andrew doesn't smile). Having said that, I often get the feeling in videos that relate to Zeos, that you guys giggle, laugh and are generally condescending when it comes to Zeos. There's a kind of smirk or jeering element in the way you guys giggle and laugh. On his channel, never once had Zeos demeaned anyone when mentioning DMS or Resolve etc. Guys, do better! I love Zeos and regardless of whether the product is good or not, Z is a legend. I love him to bits as I do DMS (Eddie Redmayne) and GoldenSound. I bet you guys won't be snickering around when reviewing the Omega.....

[@syanhc]

And I do enjoy the Eris for fusion, funk and hip-hop.

[@Draggo.]

Why should they give a pedophile special treatment?

[@WorthlessDeadEnd]

I do not like mid bass. I own a pair of Sony MDR-XB950BT headphones, and not only do I not ever use them (even though I paid $150 for them), but when I occasionally do grab them for a pair of cans, I can't tolerate the built-in bass boost because of the punchy sounding midrange bass that it creates. It just ruins it for me because I know how good low-end bass really sounds with the right pair of cans.

[@TheRebelLion13]

If the HBB Hades was a headphone. Near similar color scheme. ...and both inspired by Greek mythology as well.

[@galenzellars6971]

Would there be any particular eq app you would recommend?

[@hartyewh1]

So Cameron considers these superior to one of the most successful audio products of all time. High praise indeed😅

[@ZReviews]

Me and Eminem will be promoting them any day now.

[@NanoDex]

The burn in was the treble in Zeos ears leaving forever. Burn in...

[@elasmojones]

Couple weeks ago, I bought a Zeus Elite...it had peaky treble. I had to EQ it out. After a week it was gone.

[@cowcrapper]

Bassier than Meze 99's? Those were quite a bit dark sounding and treble wasn't launching a cruise missile into your eardrums.

[@TomStacy1]

It's like they reviewed a totally different product from what I have, I don't experience anything that they talked about. That just goes to show you, we all hear the same thing differently. I have a very low serial number... I wonder if there is some major difference in the products that they were delivered.

[@ZReviews]

Cameron has 0017.. I handed it to him new in box.

[@AdnanFiroze]

Ok, I'm sold. How much are these?

[@ZReviews]

About two fitty

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Your dignity

[@wrbrown571]

The next HUGE risk, how about the Drop+Grell x Z Collab. I frickin' dare you! 🥳 The ultra violence perhaps?

[@ZReviews]

I think I could improve them.. But then again fire could also improve them.. A high fall. Plague. Any number of things.

[@elasmojones]

Best headphone ever made. Thank God someone finally did it. Only question is whether to get a 2nd one...

[@Camride]

Watching this review on my Eris. Love these headphones, don't care how they measure. They are fun, period.

[@l67swap1]

Zeos even said himself these aren't like anything else.. are they the best.. no... But are they a fun addition to a collection , heck yes

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

No, they're just bad lol. It's like adding ketchup to ice cream to add variety. Nit everything is good for the sake of variety.

[@l67swap1]

I actually enjoy them for what they are , for edm tracks they are great where my arya organic and hd800 are not .. they are also pretty good for single player games as the bass adds a lot of atmosphere to the soundstage and they are super comfy😊​@@En_Joshi-Godrez

[@Shenkle-qx5bu]

"Consume product always and forever"

[@TomStacy1]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez what serial number is your pair of Eris?

[@TomStacy1]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez what serial number is your Eris?

[@marcosvictor4935]

A replacement for Sony xb-950s you say? Sign me the f up? I'll take it! Or at least i'll try it... I don't remember the xb950s being much harsh in the highs.

[@juanmoya7138]

hey, at least Z's headphones are an honest attempt to please the masses. He is NOT promoting something that costs nearly $1000 that I can do in my basement with my 3D printer, $10 drivers from Digikey, and a headband from Aliexpress.....like someone we know.

[@DMS3TV]

Really? You need an SLS printer (which I don't think you have a $100K printer in your basement). Can't print it via FDM. The headbands are custom machined, not from ali-axpress etc... Those $10 a piece drivers cost 4-5X as much as the ones in your average $1K headphone...

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

You my friend are a nincompoop

[@juanmoya7138]

@@DMS3TV I may be totally wrong but it sounds like you focused more on the esthetics than sound. What kind of acoustical properties does the SLS provide over an FDM? You went w/ plastic over wood or metal. No problem w/ that, I understand why ($$$$) but come on, not even injection molding. SLS may look better than let's say ABS, ASA, or PETG / PLA Carbon Fiber (FDM printer), I will not argue that but......... does it sound better? Also, did you tune the Peerless drivers? if so, how? Checking for matching drivers is not tuning. Hey, at least Z punched a hole in the filter and called it his mod. Just kidding! Does your baffle and housing design provide any acoustical advantages over any ((((FREE)))) STL headphone model ? I also asked you, how your HP compares to other HPs that use the same driver (Kennerton Vali & Aurora Borealis). Two headphones that you probably have tested/reviewed before. I don't think you have responded to any of my posts. What you seem not to understand is that the expectations for your product are high. To start, they are not cheap. Then, it comes from you, one of the most-watched HP reviewers who tends to be SUPER critical and hard to please. It is ok to charge whatever you want to charge for your product. It is America. But, I bet you that all the headphones I have put together for myself (I am not in the business, I am a Nurse) using the Peerless driver (which is good but not the best), they sound as good as yours. Total cost,

[@anthonyharding4380]

I have these hooked up to an iBasso DC07 Pro dongle. After burn-in I love em! Edit - I paired them with an Onix XI1 Alpha and I've found that the treble is less prominent, overall more pleasant. The DC07 Pro is great but the sometimes the treble can be a bit spicy at high volumes.

[@YourfriendNextDoor2]

Some ZMF tuning mesh? Does it defeat Young people love bass there’s a higher majority of bass lovers.

[@johnenglishIII]

wow! so you are saying the guy with the creepiest screen wallpapers, the most awful taste in music also and the weirdest room of all time, also has a bad taste in headphones? shocker!

[@ZReviews]

Hey!.... My music is pretty ok.

[@ryanbigbabykinlawbrisbin753]

If that basement is weird , sign me up ! Someone is just a smidge jelly me thinks 😂

[@liamhenderson3958]

​@@ryanbigbabykinlawbrisbin753 what did he say that was wrong? Honesty is jealousy? Could you grow up, please?

[@ryanbigbabykinlawbrisbin753]

@@liamhenderson3958 grow up ? I’m not the ones coming online to trash a KZbinr I don’t even know lol . Practice what ya preach smart guy 😚

[@denislemieux7294]

@@liamhenderson3958Everything he said was incorrect. Zeos has set up a legendary business and spot to work out of. The lower level of his house is totally cool and is his kingdom. The dream for a lot of people. Jealousy and resentment are also a common theme in the vid and in the comments. His success is unmatched by his peers.