Hags of Mystara

[@DIEGhostfish]

Little Orphaning Annie!

[@DolFan316]

2:03 Sounds just like a certain ideological group, and I'll leave it at that.

[@Se7enBeatleofDoom]

Not going to lie. I am still stunned that WOTC and Hasbro haven’t censored the Hags yet.

[@Mr_Welch]

@@Se7enBeatleofDoom they turned them into dudes. Now you can have male hag. Who have a strange resemblance to a green Herbert The Pervert

[@Se7enBeatleofDoom]

@ I'll take male Hags over the politically correct genderless asexual succubuses of the new Dungeons and Dragons edition. Because making canon being demonic and transgender is connected, somehow a representation win for progressive Hasbro and WOTC. Similar to how VivziePop sees making demons in hell overwhelmingly LGBT, somehow a representation. Especially with every relationship in Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss is toxic and abusive.

[@besteger]

The devouring Mother becomes literal with the Hag. Hag covens provide fertile space for stories & adventures. Thanks for giving my other favorite ladies of the night some attention.

[@DolFan316]

I never knew how much I needed the term "hag hierarchy" in my life until now.

[@princecharon]

Running a game where the PCs are children and the Big Bad is Black Annis would take skill, but could be quite interesting.

[@mrmackie-qp6lr]

Hags are in my top 10 favorite monsters in D&D and I'm pleased to hear at your favorite setting actually makes them more powerful than they are in some of the other settings giving all of them control of the undead it's a very nice touch I usually wait for the weekend to watch your videos but I'm glad I didn't this time this made my night a little bit better thank you

[@davidpaul1970]

This is about to become one of my favorite channels.

[@natewis]

Another great video! was wondering if you could do one on the many outer planes that have come up in moduels and rule books, please

[@Mr_Welch]

@@natewis that's on the list, though it is a bit scattered with the info

[@larrynintendo6838]

Hey hey, Ladies night! 😎

[@kolman3178]

Oh boy the cause for my paladins hatred for all things fey

[@docnecrotic]

A bunch of lovely ladies there

[@DolFan316]

Oh IDK, I wouldn't mind cheering up the one at 3:13. The one at 6:59 isn't bad either 😉

[@Mr_Welch]

​@@DolFan316 that wasn't my first choice for the picture of Mavis. It was actually my 4th but she was the first picture that was in focus. Props to that woman's photographer

[@templarw20]

"More powerful in X" shows up in a few creatures, usually making them memorable. 3e's Death Knights were okay, but the Dragonlance version, with extra spells for making PC days nasty and short, were one of my favorites.

[@tonyh9600]

Hags!

[@DolFan316]

9:47 Gave a like for the Mike Tomlin. 🤘

[@DolFan316]

But the real question is: do hags eat haggis?

[@Mr_Welch]

@@DolFan316 probably the Scottish ones that mess with time

[@blabbagush]

Great video ​@Mr_Welch! I don't believe they feature in the Mystara setting, but what are your thoughts on the male children of Hags known as "Hagspawn" from 3e?

[@Mr_Welch]

If used correctly they're a decent monster. Just don't let them become too whiny. For whatever reason I've seen a lot of them played that way

[@michaelwest4325]

A lot can be done with Hags at lower levels, I like to use the device from Rahasia and make them powerful only as a coven, and spin them more neutral or even lawful evil, making wicked deals that demand child sacrifices, etc., to test morality.

[@JamesAdams-nd1td]

If Hags were retconned to being Fey what were they originally? Ogres, like in Dragonlance?

[@Mr_Welch]

Creature types weren't really a thing in the early editions. I think they added them with 3rd edition I would have to look. Before that they were whatever you wanted them to be in your campaign

[@jasonhopper2130]

a comment for the numbers brother

[@tmlforsyth]

I was wondering if Night Hags would make the cut, but they are not true hags, either.

[@Mr_Welch]

@@tmlforsyth never found a mention of them in the research

[@Anyone00TZ]

I know there is the issue of the great barrier so this plan would need help from some of the Immortals but could there be some way to banish/transport/dimension-door/etc. Black Annis to the Cathedral of the Silver Flame in Eberron so she would have to face the Loli-Pope?

[@Mr_Welch]

The great continuity problem of having different powerful creatures with the same name in half the settings. I don't think getting two copies of black Annie in the same room is a good idea as the collateral damage as they tear themselves apart would be contained

[@danielsmith3642]

lol! Dropped 29 seconds ago, and I’m only the 6th person to give it a thumbs up.

[@gregweatherup9596]

But can Mystaran Hags be tricked with a cupcake? 😂

[@Mr_Welch]

Depends on the quality of the cupcake

[@gregweatherup9596]

@ 😂 a dusty but *delicious* one 😂

[@derekstein6193]

​@@Mr_Welch I suspect one with a marshmallow bunny on top would do the trick.

[@Skritz-mt9zb]

You know, I'm aware 'male hags' is an unpopular concept for good reasons due to its lack of archetypal roots but I could actually see that working as a monster. If the classic female hag is everything noxious about the darker side of feminity (beauty lost, envy, witchcraft, manipulation) then it stand to reason their male counterpart would be everything foul and vile about the darker side of masculinity. Huge, boorish ogre-like fey with rapacious appetites and desires, some of the definitely-best-unmentioned variety. Violent but cunning bullies. I could see something a bit closer to an ogre mage being their male counterpart.

[@Mr_Welch]

@@Skritz-mt9zb The ogre mage was the first thing I thought of when you just started describing it. Then it becomes the issue of what's the difference between those two?

[@Skritz-mt9zb]

@@Mr_Welch Well, in any setting where ogre mages aren't a thing and where you don't want the cultural baggage of an Oni, I'd say it works. Obviously not within Mystaran context, but hey. Its just an idea.

[@Mr_Welch]

@Skritz-mt9zb actually we do have ogre mages but they aren't used in anything that I could find

[@Skritz-mt9zb]

@@Mr_Welch Really? Huh. I wasn't sure about Mystara's ogre mages, there's too much Mystara lore and you are basically my main source of exposure to it anyway.

[@Mr_Welch]

@Skritz-mt9zb there are a lot of monsters that appear in the rule books that are in the known world but only on the wandering monster chart. That's how came up with this video was when I found that there's hags in several of the nations but they don't actually appear in any of the adventures. And the background given in the rule books is a single paragraph. We have firbolg on the southern continent but they're only mentioned once with no context. Even stranger it's mentioned in a becmi book and those only appear in first edition at the time.