A Christmas Eve Celebration

[@bobmcbob49]

"both too British and too Catholic" That's an impressive combo

[@userb1x1]

we’re professional hipsters

[@TaigiTWeseDiplomat--Formosan]

😮😮

[@exercisethemind]

Anti-Catholicism runs very deep in American history. Before the establishment of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment protection for religious liberty, it was illegal to build Catholic churches in most states. If you want to learn more about the long history of bigotry against Catholics in the US I would recommend "Anti-Catholicism in America: The Last Acceptable Prejudice" by Mark Massa.

[@joshuabessire9169]

Meanwhile, in French Canada: "Too British is enough."

[@redlight3932]

@@userb1x1 most accurate english characterization

[@robertjensen1438]

For Christmas, I bought my wife a world map and gave her a dart. I told her to throw it, and wherever it lands, we will go on vacation. Turns out we are spending two weeks behind the fridge.

[@danstotland6386]

Have a fun and wonderful vacation.

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

Lol

[@Bennycanofbeans]

Tell them I said "hey." They'll know what it means.

[@MrM6d]

Have fun with the cat's toys! 😺😸😻

[@timmmahhhh]

Happy cleaning.

[@ronalddevine9587]

How fitting that dinner was. And now the closest of allies for over 100 years. Merry Christmas to all.

[@matthewmerchant2038]

It's always been incredible to me that even in times of war, enemies can still find at least a brief moment of humanity and celebration.

[@WinterWitch01]

Soldiers are just people and as people we’re far more alike, than we are different. Both sides are stuck fighting in a war they didn’t start. Both just hoping to survive so they can get back to their real lives and family

[@CarneyBarney-qo7wq]

Easier when you speak the same language and worship the same God.

[@SquatchStomper]

Merry Christmas everyone

[@tc_is_me]

Merry Christmas 🎄.

[@SquatchStomper]

@tc_is_me many thanks

[@exercisethemind]

Peace on Earth! Goodwill to men!

[@pluto7389]

@@SquatchStomper happy Channukah

[@Nicks_Pix]

Merry Christmas!!!!!!!

[@alastairbarkley6572]

Thank you History Guy for your year's work keeping us educated and amused. All the best from England.

[@PrimeTX]

In fairness to our forefathers, Macy’s hadn’t opened yet.

[@elizabetheaton3882]

It's interesting to hear this history about the nature of the Christmas holiday over time. Thanks.

[@JosePerez-vz1qq]

That dinner alone could have reignited hostilities.

[@JORIS1234HOTMAIL]

Yuck indeed 😮😅

[@exercisethemind]

plum pudding is delicious!

[@BlackCatAlley]

French Canadian here The british indifference to the participation of the Quebecois and Natives, in the war of 1812 (ready and willing to pledge allégeance to a new sovereignty) planted the seeds of Qc seperatism in Canada Americans, on the other hand, saw an opportunity and gave american citizenship to french and acadian people who were living in the Louisanne territories, willing to fight, during the american push towards the west.

[@glenn6583]

Peace is one of the finest gifts!

[@ARMY-ep6fz]

Merry Christmas to all.

[@exercisethemind]

God is with us!

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

Can you imagine no Christmas in the United States?

[@victorduny9842]

No crazies in the mall fighting over presents, no spending thousands on utter junk that no one really wants or needs, no more uncomfortable office parties and lousy secret Santa’s….sound a little like heaven.

[@Tropicality.]

If anything it probably just be a bummer only to the little ones

[@MarcusGibson-d7u]

​@@Tropicality.They would never have experienced Christmas or know what one was so they wouldn't know what they were missing

[@divifemtv]

Yep

[@exercisethemind]

Anti-Catholicism runs very deep in American history. Before the establishment of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment protection for religious liberty, it was illegal to build Catholic churches in most states. If you want to learn more about the long history of bigotry against Catholics in the US I would recommend "Anti-Catholicism in America: The Last Acceptable Prejudice" by Mark Massa.

[@lottidd6037]

A blessed Christmas to all🌟

[@rodareego7019]

That beef and plum pudding looks crazy

[@exercisethemind]

That's just the plum pudding. The beef was served separately.

[@michaelhadamson7749]

Thank goodness Andy Jackson celebrated the New Year before word of the treaty reached him.

[@exercisethemind]

Sic Semper Tyrannus!

[@brucewelty7684]

Strange that it was too British as Christmas celebrations there had waned also...until Dickens

[@exercisethemind]

Anti-Catholicism runs very deep in American history. Before the establishment of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment protection for religious liberty, it was illegal to build Catholic churches in most states. If you want to learn more about the long history of bigotry against Catholics in the US I would recommend "Anti-Catholicism in America: The Last Acceptable Prejudice" by Mark Massa.

[@jumpinjehoshaphat1951]

The Wikipedia entry for Charles Carroll of Carrollton is a good starting point: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carroll_of_Carrollton

[@PassiveDamage]

Catholicism is the most "how did people buy this" religion ever. The Roman's CRUCIFY the king of the Jews & then swing the whole thing like theyre the goodies and it was the Jews and not at all jealous Romans who had him executed. Cut to 200 years later and they're one of the most bigoted groups on earth. & all that without mentioning the countless pedo rings & nazi sympathisers in vatican city but suuuure poor lil old Catholocism.

[@DavidWalls-sr1pg]

the US didn't exist until 1776. Before that it was a part of Britain.

[@stephenyardley4880]

TY for that info.

[@elizabethharttley4073]

Micro learning is my favorite hobby

[@Wasatch95]

Here's to two more centuries! 🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@sblack48]

And it’s all about to come to an end

[@zacharynovak2180]

It’s really funny as christmas was only truly co-opted by most christian denominations towards the end of the 17th century, where beforehand they were very much against a “winter holiday” where folks would gather to have fun and be merry. Christians were the original perpetrators of the “war on Christmas”, lol

[@fatboyrowing]

Love THG!

[@joejones6842]

God rest ye merry gentlemen, let nothing you dismay...now, after 70 years, I am wondering if a sea change is actually occurring. Will I witness "The buck stops here" or "A time for greatness" or "Now more than ever" or "All the way with LBJ" or "Vote like your whole world depended on it" or Ronald Reagan's "Let's make America great again"? It strikes me as strange how mankind, living on this little outpost, in the middle of nowhere, somehow finds it necessary to fight among themselves for reasons that laugh in the face of common sense, yet somehow cannot realize that we are all we have. We can succeed or fail on our merits. It's so easy to take the road less traveled, but so hard to commit to do so. Merry Christmas to all. Keep your fingers crossed. Anything is possible.

[@gabrielrousseau958]

Two centuries of peaceful relations that Keir Starmer would like to change.

[@cebfromthestreetsoftorn2886]

Aha! Joke's on them. It was the long con all along. It's been 200 years, but now we own Christmas thanks to Rankin Bass, Coca-Cola, and Macy's! That'll teach those Brits to... ah... hm... uhh... That'll teach 'em! USA! USA! USA!

[@markpaul-ym5wg]

100 years later, England and France would be fighting Germany, in WW1.A lot of other countries would answer the call for help.

[@OTDMilitaryHistory]

There was still violence to come between Canada and the US however.

[@ruthc8407]

Britain NEVER let us go. Look up the "city of London".

[@mattmccusker7639]

Rome became a church, Britain became a bank!

[@sheeplestrafer9413]

Look into the origins of Christmas. Saturn, has a lot to do with it. Go on, lemme know what you find. Merry Christmas and have a happy new year!

[@DavidWalls-sr1pg]

Saturn doesn't have much to do with it. Sol invictus is much more relevant.

[@joywebster2678]

And after the battles, Canadians and British including indigenous fighters, walked to Washington DC and set the White house on fire, and turned and walked home! Uper Canada around Niagara Falls Ontario still has the fences of that era, and a fort. And Brock University named after General Brock.

[@maynardcarmer3148]

One of my ancestors, a great-great-great uncle, fought the British on the Niagara Frontier of Western NY, mustering out in 1815

[@rodneyspider9452]

Thanksgiving was a Yankee holiday. Christmas was a late November Southern Christian holiday. The Yankees barely celebrated Christmas and the South barely (if ever) celebrated Thanksgiving.

[@carbon4454]

Americans will never cease to boggle the rational mind

[@jonathanwhite3507]

Source for the statement about "too British and too Catholic"?

[@TrailRunnerLife]

Your mom, et al.

[@Forester-]

I searched this and an article from NYU did come up that said that the problems with Christmas were traced back to the Puritans and that in early America it was primarily Episcopalians, Methodists, Catholics and Lutherans who celebrated while Congregationalists, Baptists, and Presbyterians often did not. I'd speculate that the "too English" bit essentially just means too Catholic as the groups who dud not celebrate thought as much abiut Anglicanism.

[@exercisethemind]

@@Forester- while there was some suspicion from more extreme Puritan Protestants against Anglicans and Lutherans being too similar to Catholics, what lay at the root of that distrust and common to all Protestant denominations was an intense hatred of Catholics themselves. Anti-Catholicism runs very deep in American history. Before the establishment of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment protection for religious liberty, it was illegal to build Catholic churches in most states. If you want to learn more about the long history of bigotry against Catholics in the US I would recommend "Anti-Catholicism in America: The Last Acceptable Prejudice" by Mark Massa.

[@adanactnomew7085]

Those woke American revolutionaries

[@ecamp6360]

Christmas was more of a Dutch and German thing in U.S. in 1700s and 1800s.

[@MarcusGibson-d7u]

Wrong

[@bigbad25]

Yeah.... To quote the British "what a load of bollocks" Suggest you check your facts next time.

[@naseebdookie3485]

❤😢😮

[@JohnHRPieper]

HAH!

[@johnvaleanbaily4859]

Looks like Trump is about to change all that.

[@RedLogicYT]

Too british and too catholic 😂

[@exercisethemind]

Anti-Catholicism runs very deep in American history. Before the establishment of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment protection for religious liberty, it was illegal to build Catholic churches in most states. If you want to learn more about the long history of bigotry against Catholics in the US I would recommend "Anti-Catholicism in America: The Last Acceptable Prejudice" by Mark Massa.

[@liamjanssens7014]

And nowadays the States go crazy during the time leading up to Christmas

[@RosettaRedfeather]

Two days later there was a huge battle in the delta, many British prisoners got to see the French ARTILLERY support camp on the WEST of the Mississippi, which the Brits were told DID NOT EXIST… I recall this battle and being taken prisoner after my horse, who had pneumonia, died in combat on the battlefield. I was a British officer and was killed in the camp shortly afterwards.

[@starchington]

Peeeeeaaaaaceee

[@SergeantSquared]

I'm so proud of my ancestors for rejecting Cjristmas.

[@exercisethemind]

This is why I hate Hallmark.

[@tomcondon6169]

I have heard different. A video I watched said that there is a plaque commemorating the War of 1812 that says the British won the war.

[@abacab87]

That's how nearly every war ends. Both sides proclaim victory and go home.

[@MitchellCulberson-ko3cm]

The British finally learned their lesson about fooling around with America & Americans! 😂

[@HarryFaber-z7l]

And have been slaves to them since 1915.

[@bigbad25]

Aye the Americans losing the war of 1812 really showed them.

[@rodareego7019]

Not really, the British gained more from losing the revolutionary war. Research.

[@MitchellCulberson-ko3cm]

America won the 1812 British screw up.To make my point is the Brits left United States soil & fled to Canada like the Tories did in the Revolution.And yes Britian did get dividends from America.We keep the Brits safe from ALL the boogeymen like Putin!😄😁😆😅🤣😂

[@MitchellCulberson-ko3cm]

The Brits lost their 1813 screw up & fled to Canada like yhe Tories did in the Revolutuon & yes Britian gained more from America because America keeps the boogeyman like Putin away & the Brots safe!😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂

[@darkadmiral106]

Too Christian? Oh, what a surprise!

[@DavidWalls-sr1pg]

Not what was said.

[@FoStealth]

It's amazing at how, not 60 years prior, things were tense and then after the treaty of 1814, America has been among the fiercest defenders of Britain. WW2? Helped to supply them and keep them in the war. The war would've gone way differently had Britain fall