Nashville Trades Carrier to Montreal for Barron, PO Joseph Traded to Pittsburgh for Futures

[@dalonge88]

You should make a Future Considerations jersey. I think that would be a fun to wear whenever its involved in a trade.

[@intothestorm86]

Good idea, à jersey with pucks, sticks and water bottles

[@gohabs8918]

A combination of all 32 teams on one jersey

[@f.n04]

he really should

[@creamcheesewonton420]

Who’s gonna tell him

[@bcoldgoalie]

Congratulations to THG for being featured in an article in Forbes magazine! Well deserved. 👏

[@drivethru6155]

Thanks for pointing this out! Just read it, makes me happy is that it is well researched and takes the time to mention the some of the nuances that make Shannon special in the best possible way.

[@yoholmes273]

Holy moly, Forbes is still a thing? Way to go HOckey guy

[@DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide]

I just read the article, it's a good read.

[@Pyrospriter042]

Man, the Blues couldn't have waited until after the holidays to trade PO Joseph? They literally just did all that promotional content with him and his brother. Seems a little mean ngl 😭

[@nickholmes5610]

Corporations are nasty

[@f.n04]

@@nickholmes5610 good thing the blues aren't one

[@woodsie22]

I think this was a case of the Blues not having room for PO Joseph, and it was either waive him and he could end up anywhere or help him go somewhere he's comfortable with. The reason Kessel was sent down to Springfield when the Blues got Fowler was that anyone else would require waivers. And if Leddy comes back, Scotty P and PO Joe were the only D you could realistically get rid of for purely roster limit reasons. I think if it wasn't for the roster freeze, they would have held onto him a bit longer just in case, but between Faksa's unfortunate cut and Leddy's lingering injury, they need the roster flexibility

[@nicolascleroux7051]

I was sad to see Joseph walk this summer. I'm glad he's back in black and Yellow

[@chriskennedy5341]

A video on past Future Considerations trades that have actually had an affect on the acquiring team?

[@irocz11]

Not shocked PO was moved was pretty much the 8th best defenseman at this point and they need kessel to play RD. Probably would have been put on waivers tomorrow if they didn’t find a trade.

[@mariovaccarella6854]

Great Video/Update Shannon

[@JawsHLL]

Future considerations, legend

[@tIhIngan]

I didn't like Barron in Montreal. Almost almost every time there's a bad turnover I yell at the TV "Please not number 52 again! Turn around! Yep, there it is. Number 52 again."

[@gohabs8918]

Yeah him and Dvorak are a massive liability

[@julienbeaudry-tardif7982]

Barron is straight up garbage, good riddance!

[@Mr_Spock512]

I hear you man ... the guy was a liability in our own zone.

[@MarkCMG]

Thanks for the video! Interesting trades!

[@posty3613]

If you’re bored you can do a future consideration power index. Who’s given the most. Who’s owed the most ect. Which teams owe each other the most

[@MarlonB-n5e]

hope Barron can have an occasion to restart his career in smashville

[@Jame5man]

Montreal needed stability and experience on the backend. Carrier brings more of that then Barron does. Considering he was the most expendable of the NHL regulars this is a good move

[@rocktoonzz]

Damn, trading Carrier hurts. Habs are getting a good player and a good guy.

[@kradz5172]

I feel bad for Future Considerations. Guy never had time to settle down in one place and even worse, for someone that is clearly highly valued no one thinks he's valuable. Sad really.

[@stevef4010]

One of Dubas' best moves. Didn't get fleeced on Future considerations it seems.

[@jumpyg1258]

Pens are adding because Pettersson got hurt the other day and in Wilkes Barre a few of their defensemen are out injured as well.

[@thumbthump]

Trotz doing Carrier a favor trading him back to home French speaking Quebec

[@Mr_Spock512]

It can be a favor or a curse as we quebecers expect a consistent effort every night ... floaters are "persona non grata" in Montreal and are usually run out of town by fans and the media. I'm definitively not saying that Carrier is that kind of player but I hope he can adjust to the intense scrutiny that comes with wearing a Habs jersey.

[@unbearablycringe]

As a Habs fan, I really don't know what Barry Trotz saw in Barron to force him to pull the trigger on that deal but I really can't complain

[@williamarmour1656]

Sorry Alex, but you're going west for future 1st.

[@leviklynstra8975]

I think this is a steal for the Blues. Future Considerations, in my opinion, has been flying under the radar as a promising young prospect. While his points-production might not be very high right now, he seems to be trending in the right direction very fast. It may be bold of me to say, but I think he will have some elite talent by the end of his career, and even lead the Blues to another Stanley Cup.

[@defaultuser1447]

I thought Future Considerations was a seasoned veteran. I've been hearing his name for a long time.

[@by-rc3nl]

I think Carrier has more upside than Barron, go Habs go

[@Mr_Spock512]

I just want him to be a reliable stay at home defenseman and not a weak pushover like Barron was.

[@ryankrause618]

shoutouts to the blues for posting winter classic promo with the josephs 4 hours before the trade was announced. gonna miss pojo in the lou 😢

[@severedhand141]

When have Future Considerations ever turned into anything? I am unaware of it ever actually turning into anything. Thanks!

[@idiotidiot5821]

Maybe not directly to a trade but indirectly for sure by promoting longer talks

[@yoholmes273]

It's not quite the same as today...however when Brendan Shannahan signed as restricted FA to St.Louis, NJ was to receive future consideration for a player of "equal value." That turned out to be new Blues Captain Scott Stevens going to NJ Not the same thing, but it's the only somewhat example that I can think of.

[@dustheg]

Is future considerations actually really considered a trade? Ive never really heard anyone actually using future considerations for anything worth anything

[@TheHockeyGuy]

It can become a draft pick, but it's rarely more than a 7th rounder.

[@brianschlaf7007]

Normally a 7th rounder or future considerations back the other way or sometimes two different ahl or echl teams agree to trade players and the player gets a nhl contract sometimes after

[@samdiamondnl]

When I was a new fan, I honestly thought future considerations was an actual thing teams kept track of. Kinda like "we did you a favor with the x trade, now it's your turn"

[@oldhab7890]

Bold call on the Nashville/Montreal trade. I think you are right but Nashville is banking on potential and sometime "potential" becomes "reality".

[@ToymakersToolbox]

This was Armstrong moving a guy he couldn't use to a place where he'll get to play. The Blues are stacked with lefthanded D-men and Joseph was playing two games out of nine or something like that. He'll have the opportunity to get more NHL ice time in Pittsburgh.

[@jakedasnake7703]

Yea we got Joseph back cause there’s some familiarity there especially since Petterson will be on the IR for awhile now. Not a bad move!

[@jackoakes1998]

I like the love to get back PO, I thought the pens should've kept him during the summer. Pens needed the help on the left side, he's familiar with the system looked good the second half of last year with Letang. I hope he bumps Grezlcyk out of the lineup

[@Tobris]

I like PO Joseph as a Pens fan, he is sort of a bottom 3 D, he is best on the bottom pair but can play second pair with the right partner, like when he was with Letang.

[@benoitrobitaille5235]

Barron has been showcased for so long with little to no results that im shocked we got Carier back for him. Very similar to the Harris - Laine trade in my mind, just not at the same scale. Don’t be shocked if Struble is next, Mailloux ni

[@Wolfclanxp]

Any chance you could add minor peripherals for dmen? Like hits, shots blocked, +/-? Or even mention that he could be a PP2 fit or a PK player. I feel like having points up for dmen doesn’t really help at times. And yes I love to hear you talk about them, but it would be nice to have a visual on top of you saying “(so and so) is a great depth dman he can play on the bottom pair”. I hope your mother’s procedure went well!

[@GrandTomah]

not happy with future considerations but it is interesting how well army is building up this relationship with dubas. Seems like these two can't not work with each other. excited to see where that leads in the future.

[@irocz11]

PO was the 8th defenseman on the blues at this point and was probably going to be put on waivers tomorrow if he didn’t get traded tonight.

[@NunyaBizness-z8f]

Once again, Steve Yzerman sits back in his swivel chair and wonders "Why doesn't anyone want to play with me?"

[@Mr_Spock512]

Barron is a purely offensive right handed defenseman who was severely lacking in our defensive zone due to his LACK OF PHYSICAL PLAY, the opposition consistently exploited this weakness. We already have other defensemen (ie. Hutson, Matheson) who are better than him on the offensive side so Barron was expendable. I considered Barron to be a liability in our own zone so I don't think he had any future with the team as Reinbacher and Mailloux are coming down the pipeline on the right side of our defense. As for Carrier, I can't say as I've haven't seen much of him but I'm willing to give our management the benefit of the doubt. Note: We got Barron from the Avalanche for Artturi Lehkonen and a 2nd round pick (which was then traded away when we picked Michael Hage in the last draft) ... so basically Lehkonen ==> Carrier and Hage.

[@rickyaz8640]

Like this mini trade deadline day. NHL needs to make it a bigger deal. Maybe make the window last a few weeks longer to up the pressure. Soccer has the 2 deal windows as well

[@yoholmes273]

"Up the pressure" Um dude, everyone knows when the roster freeze is. That IS "the pressure"

[@stormsniper743]

No draft pick added is crazy, fleeced

[@IkonCoLeaderDH3574]

As a preds fan. Huh?

[@mmcb2910]

From what i remember, Joseph was just okay in Pittsburgh, and very streaky. However, if he can get back to that I'll take him over the disaster that is Ryan Graves any night. Really though, this is a reaction to Petterson being out for a while. With Aho and St. Ivany injured as well, we're playing the bottom of our defense depth right now, so Joseph really can't make anything worse right?

[@JustBob-sw4rf]

“Just OK, and very streaky.” Describes his play in St. Louis. He’s still young enough that he could clean up the big mistakes that he’s prone to. I hope that happens for him.

[@maxrates]

Hughes W

[@MetronomeGamez]

Despite their record, I don’t think Trotz is just going to sell. I think the trading of Carrier is to free up more cap space to go after a center, a position the team desperately needs help at.

[@777poco]

this season is lost already, it will be interesting to see what Trotz does next though

[@markroberts9577]

This trade for Pittsburgh just for the end of this season. He will be waived before seasons end

[@thesuneversets]

I would’ve taken a flyer on coghlan instead of Joseph coming back but with pettersen getting hurt and then not giving up much of anything why not. Never thought he was good but most of their defense isn’t anyway lol

[@skyscraper5910]

Penns traded PO Joseph high, regretted it cuhz they needed him as they weren’t trying to rebuild, and now they get him back. Not sure how he has been playing in st Lois tho. Obvious seems like not well.

[@mcj44]

They didn’t trade him. They didn’t qualify him as an RFA. So essentially they told him they didn’t want him, then proceeded to trade for him

[@irocz11]

Offensively wasn’t bad. Constantly out of position though in the D zone which has led him to being the 8th defenseman at this point for the blues.

[@christopherharte4741]

Pens needed a rental they could count on that didn't need training since Petterson is on injured reserve. Once Petterson is off the injured reserve PO will either be sent back to St.Louis or down to the AHL

[@ClaySTL1]

​@@irocz11 he was gonna be the 8th D either way tbh As far as Kessel is concerned I had him back in AHL before Christmas under Bannister bc he'd been regressing in my books Seeing him as I'm a STH However he'd been improving under Monty ...... understanding though that the send down was purely monetary .....and seeing PO go just shows he earned his spot back So we'll see where it goes I don't see Kessel staying on long term rest of the season though They'll rotate him and Scotty as needed but boy do I/we need to get him seasoned Game is too big for him...sadly (Scotty P)

[@maxjohnson847]

As soon as I say OK, I think the predators are done they continue

[@jacobdill4499]

I am a little disappointed with PO Joseph being traded.

[@Scott-h5b4y]

I don't think the Preds know what they are doing. Fire them all. Hey Berry. Why don't you just sell or trade them all for draft picks and call up everybody from Milwaukee

[@MrProng999]

I thought with all that money they spent on Stankos and Marchessault Preds would try to make a move to turn their season around. I was expecting them to try and trade for Matheson. I guess they are giving up already.

[@Mr_Spock512]

Matheson would have been a good trade as he can skate like the wind ... Barron not so much, he's a defensive liability with little upside.

[@MrProng999]

@@Mr_Spock512 he's young, I think he can still be okay

[@mikechouinard772]

wtf

[@jayvardy]

Yup

[@jeko32]

Another awful trade for Nashville

[@dad4805]

Barry needs to go

[@freedom_fighter4317]

Time for an $11.6 Million salary dump by Vancouver. Unload EP40 . He's dreadful.

[@marsters9109]

Carrier is 5'11", 174 lbs. Habs 'tenders expect this guy to clear the front of the net😂

[@Mr_Spock512]

Barron didn't either ... and he was a disaster in our own zone.

[@Shurehlm]

There are just no interesting trades any more. It's been years.

[@zanec1780]

Jordan Harris for Patrik Laine 🥴

[@TheOriginalTuhat]

The Avs and sharks goalie trade was fairly interesting. But it’s hard to top trades like that Calgary/Panthers trade from a couple years ago

[@Mr_doge21]

Horrible player were cooked

[@BayBye2011]

sadly there is a 5 year difference in age and Carriere seems like a stop gap till the players in Laval are ready and Barron at 23 is too soon to give up on and should have gotten more time in Laval to develop. this might be another trade that Montreal lives to regret.

[@doaftheloaf]

wow, what does nashville see in barron that was worth giving carrier up? as a habs fan, i'm thrilled with this deal. gotta say though, trotz is a shit GM. how does he not even get a pick back?

[@stanschmenge1965]

cap space is becoming a valuable commodity

[@doaftheloaf]

@ nashville isn’t doing anything this year, and carrier’s still young. what do they need the space for?

[@stanschmenge1965]

@@doaftheloaf hard to say, I just know cap space in a salary cap world can help you out in possible future transactions. And next year always starts today for teams in Nashville's predicament.

[@doaftheloaf]

@ still no excuse for not getting a pick with barron.

[@dctest01]

@@doaftheloaf Carrier’s 28, not exactly young in today’s NHL

[@petermelville5524]

Baron has a high ceiling, but was not getting the minutes. At 23 he is 5 yrs younger than Carrier, who was a non-factor D on the worst team...whose major attraction is that he is a francophone. Canadiens have plenty of huge prospects, so it's good to give Baron a walk where he can keep up his progress to being a productive top 4 D in a couple of years. He is a great skater, blocks shots, can jump in and score, and has been showing lately that he can hit. He has better size than Carrier at 6-3 and 200+ lbs. Pred's win easily.

[@slidefirst694]

Joseph's poor parents, now they have to split up to watch the boys play, unless it's StL vs Pitt.