How To Repair Leaning Fences

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Leaning or sagging fences are a common problem in backyards. If you catch them in time though, it's easy to get them standing up again, plumb and secure! This short video from The Honest Carpenter will walk you through an affordable repair.
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How-To:
1) Assess condition of existing fence posts. Try to find weakest posts that are no longer firmly anchored in the ground, or places where 2x4 rails have detached from posts.
2) Force the fence back into an upright position using 2x4s angled into the ground.
3) Remove pickets if necessary to gain access to weak posts (if backside of fence cannot be approached).
4) Dig a post hole in desired location of new post.
5) Cut post to length (below full height of fence), and drop it into the new post hole.
6) Attach post to 2x4 rails using 3" exterior-grade screws.
7) Pour or mix new concrete into post hole. (Consider using the "screw tree" method I describe in the video to make anchors stronger.)
8) Wait for concrete to set up, then remove angled supports.
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Thanks for watching!

[@mbeaudet2204]

If only those of us who live in harsh winter climate could access such shallow ciment!! We have to dig 3 .... 4 feet down :( Despite the differences, i appreciate your videos! Merci beaucoup!!

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

m beaudet I feel for you up there! Our frost line is just 12” down here in NC 😅 Thank you for watching and supporting!

[@nannettebattista3047]

My husband uses these plans from Stodoys and is very happy with them. However. I love yours!

[@kswonder28]

Love the video! My relative's neighbor has a similar fence. It has mostly fallen into my relative's yard and I thought about going over to fix some of it for them. Not a handyman, saw this video as I'm a subscriber, watched it, I can do this! You have a talent for teaching. Thanks! 🔧🗜🧠

[@goldenretriever1508]

I have a treated shadow-box fence that I put up in 1991. Every 5-7 years I buy two 5 gallon cans of Cabot stain (my fence surrounds a 1/2 acre backyard) and spray the stain on. My fence looks like it is brand new after 30 years. Just a suggestion to avoid dealing with a deteriorating fence down the road.

[@Authorthings]

Great suggestion!!

[@pegdimarco5316]

I'm sure you can find awesome woodworking plans on woodprix

[@kevinbietry7527]

I love little projects

[@165Dash]

Nice job! Small detail not central to the tutorial but lay persons should understand that concrete doesn’t “dry”...it “cures”. Concrete hardens through a chemical reaction not evaporation.

[@jeffcanyafixiy]

Great idea using the screws as an additional anchor!! I do half a dozen of these a year at work. Going to add that to my arsenal. THANKS!! 👍👍

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

@JUrry3 You’re welcome! Can’t remember who showed me this but it’s such a good idea. You’ll feel the difference in the post stiffness. Best of luck with the work!

[@sebastiensmarth3479]

What do you usually charge for something like this? Lady just asked me to come and do this for her.

[@bobgins1497]

Gotta say thanks for taking the time to post this.

[@Reblwitoutacause]

" 'Post' this" Hyuk hyuk hyuk.

[@stevecharman8420]

The best bit of advice I ever got was "Don't make a repair so good that it shows up how bad the rest of its surroundings are"

[@talishahalliburton]

I love the name"Honest Carpenter"! I recently received an estimate for this job. I have like 8 picks leaning, and this guy gave me a quote for 800 bucks. I'll show my friend this video ASAP! Thanks for the tips.

[@markme4]

With a face like yours , im sure you can get it done for free !

[@patrickohennesy6539]

@@markme4 🤦‍♂️ gullible asf

[@markme4]

@@patrickohennesy6539 I know huh

[@Rextrent]

To each his own. Different strokes for different folks. This is not meant to be bigheaded! I would knock off the old panels, and make some room to work in that new post hole. That said, I have cut corners on prep work in my younger more impetuous days (less savvy but less beat-up). I get kind of stressy when I'm fighting on too many unnecessary fronts, so make way and clear some space! Thanks for the fine vid.

[@handymanjourney]

Looks great, Nice work! I have never heard of putting screws to help secure the post in the concrete. Very cool! Keep it up!

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Thank you Lee!

[@handymanjourney]

@@TheHonestCarpenter where are you located man?

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

I work all over NC, Lee. How about you?

[@handymanjourney]

@@TheHonestCarpenter very cool! Are you a contractor or a handyman? I work around Sacramento California

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Honest Lee Handyman Awesome. I’m sort of a carpenter for hire, though I work one on one with homeowners and mostly keep my jobs small these days. Working on getting a shop going again so I can do some cool woodworking projects for KZbin 😬

[@HaroldtheDon]

I have a similar situation, only that it's my neighbor's fence leaning towards my backyard. I'm a new homeowner, any advice on how I go about this situation?

[@wakefieldallan]

Scream obscenities ove the fence until they fix it to get rid of you... 😉

[@HaroldtheDon]

So much wisdom packed into so small sentences, thank you gentlemen lol

[@marcmiller789]

I suggest if you add a new post to bring your footer above ground level. Thats what caused first post to rot out. Also in my years of construction i have found that mixing in the hole isnt the best. Ive found many post over the years that still had dry spots of concrete from being mixed in the hole!

[@go4lowcost652]

agree with Marc Miller....

[@barkershill]

I also agree with Marc Miller

[@bobv8219]

Dry spots usually occur with inexperienced homeowners not so much fence repair men making videos of fence repair, most homeowners don’t own a long bar which is well suited for this application.

[@marcmiller789]

@@bobv8219 Dry mixing in the hole causes post footer to be at or below ground level, neither of which are good. I prefer to mix in a wheel barrow. I can control consistency better.

[@toddpeters9007]

I have had good luck with putting a couple big hand fulls of concrete in hole then post , add concrete half way up hole , add water, then fill concrete around rest of post and on ground add rest or water about 3qts

[@imshypleasebenicetome.5344]

Recenty fixed a sagging old fence, before my dogs couldn't dig under, now idk what ispiration they got but the have dug underneath trying to make escape spots, now i dug 1 foot under the fence to install femce wire to deterrent that behavior, gee wiz what a job

[@1sogybisc]

Glad I found this video. Gonna be a long weekend. The fence company told me $1200 to fix 4 posts...

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Yeah, that seems excessive Matt

[@notary9]

Thanks for posting this video! I have been searching KZbin for a video that reflects my wooden fence problem. Your video details the exact situation I currently have where there is a small exterior gate fence on the other side of my wooden fence that is leaning. What are yout thoughts on using a fence mender to secure the current defective post rather than inserting a new post? Also, can I reuse the current pix that are removed to assess the defective post? I ask this because my wooden fence was specially designed with each pix shape by saw to reflect a circular design.

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Hey Craig, you’re welcome, I’m glad I could help! Fence menders are fairly new and I haven’t worked with them yet. I tend to go with full post addition or replacement because it’s so cheap, strong, and matches the original fence aesthetic. But, Simpson tends to make good stuff, so I’d b interested to know how well they work! As for the pickets, feel free to reattach them if they’re in decent shape-you can sometimes fasten through the same nailholes even. If the picket is split or chewed up, you may want to fashion a new one. I hope that helps!

[@davidl2281]

Good job, the fence is on borrowed time already, but would be very costly to replace it all , I have to do something like that to my fence, but I used good sealer/stain on mine years ago and it's n better shape.

[@cryengine_x]

the sealer will do nothing where the fence will fail, where the posts meet the ground

[@MarioWarKing]

Timely video. We were searching the internet for a good while looking for building a fence inside of an existing fence. Not sure if we can save most of the existing fence....though...

[@Luckingsworth]

Good vid. One thing to consider is that like you said in the beggining, sometimes the issue is wind. If you live in a windy area it might make sense to place strategic holes in the fence to allow wind to pass through and apply less pressure on the fence. It can be done in a tactful way that doesnt negate the usefulness of a privacy fence.

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Jon M Thank you! I have seen this done before-sort of like windows in the upper 30% of the fence. I’ll do a little more research on it now. Thanks for writing in!

[@Authorthings]

How? Are there pictures online somewhere?

[@devonwilliams2423]

@@Authorthingsimagine the holes you drill with that circle bit you put on doors but smaller or similar

[@AJDIYNetwork]

Is there any specific screw you drive into the post prior to putting in the concrete! Would carriage bolts suffice! Either way, that’s brilliant. I’m in the process of fixing my swaying fence, which was built 1.5 years ago..... I’ll post it this week.

[@bobv8219]

No , also nails , wood lags 1/4” diameter or 3/8” and very random placement but certainly at or near the first 6” base

[@Shahzad5814]

Nice video. My problem is that the fence is behind wooden deck and it is sagging outside on the other side towards neighbor's property. Any suggestions? Thanks

[@Steveorino123]

How would you pull it up if everything about your fence was the same layout of posts and stringers but the fence is leaning AWAY from you in your yard. And you can’t go in the neighbors yard to push it up like you’re doing. I have to PULL mine without going in the other yard. Any ideas anyone?

[@macgyver52]

20" inches My Ass!!! Looks a lot closer to 14" "Honest Carpenter" And that thing is flopping all over the place at the end of the video when you're pushing it with your hand. Why don't you explain how if the post on the left is rotted at the ground (which is what happens when you put wood in cement!) you just put a post to the right of it. How does it hold up the fence section to the left? When the rails are still butted to the rotted post with No extra support?!?

[@j2collinwood]

Are you sure your in the right yard? The post's face the owners property.

[@ghostfive7119]

I always tar the bottom 1/4-1/3 of post to prevent rot

[@cryengine_x]

this will do nothing and will be gone in a year tops anyway.

[@charliesmith9528]

My 3 rail fence i just installled looks great facing it BUT f you look at is from angle its showing bulges a little which makes fence look awful,,someone suggested cutting post at ground lever where the bulges are and drive a tpost in behind post after i get fence aligned,,any ideas,,i did run a string line when i dug holes but i was doing this by myself and went too fast

[@ceya733]

Details dontbskipbthebdetail..u put the stuck in thr ground , well ahowbusbfemale 😅

[@hadleymanmusic]

Dang u got the good dirt. I got tan concrete with red under that. Water bucket time 120° in the sun.

[@danneilson684]

Good video however, when applying this strategy in any frost zone, your holes have to be deeper than the frost line. In my area that's 4 feet deep!! Otherwise the frost will heave the post out like a toothpick.

[@johnmcginley1237]

Last I knew it was a big no, to putting galvanized nails/screws in pressure treated wood (causes rot) - worth mentioning unless it's no longer the case...

[@sebastiensmarth3479]

Lady just ask me to do a job like this for her today. What's a reasonable price for a job like this? If you were gonna price it by the job?

[@leonelmartinez397]

How much should we charge to reinforced fence with 6 new post and cement? Any ideas

[@davidcole333]

This is just the advice I was looking for. Thank you so much!

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

@David Cole You're welcome! Thanks so much for watching :)

[@ronsantos475]

That’s honestly a problem for the next guy in 20 years when that post start to lean with double the cement. I instead added a 4x4 anchor

[@Harley-ir4er]

As a Former Carpenter, Very often the reason the post rots at ground level because the concrete isn't taken up to ground level and tapered off to create a water run off. If the post is sitting in clay at ground level it never gets a chance to dry out properly. Thanks for posting and helping many people. Property maintenance is expensive and there's lots of stuff people can do themselves with your help and guidance.

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Very true, Harley! When I used to set posts I would always tell clients this same thing. But it’s crazy how often they wouldn’t let me taper their concrete boots because they didn’t want to see them! It was constant uphill battle 😅

[@Marwan4Sultan]

😊

[@BondeyeView]

The neighbour and I are motivated to fix our leaning fence. It is a scary concept and we have heat wave conditions right now, but I hope it will work out! Thanks for the guidance on your video!

[@joelglanton6531]

Lol so scary

[@bigeric8334]

How’d it turn out

[@timf1555]

So scared didn't do it lololol

[@MarcusWoods]

Thank you for the great video on how to deal with this lean issue. My mom's fence is leaning and I don't have the money to hire someone.

[@samston]

My neighbor put boulders at the foot of my fence and now my fence is leaning inwards.

[@DobbsyLondon]

Make sure the post is sufficiently treated that screw anchors don't allow the postcrete to penetrate the timber and rot.

[@johngaspar4425]

why is the fence facing the wrong way? Neighbor troubles?

[@R1tu4lz]

Are you also putting gravel down at the bottom of the hole? How deep is the hole?

[@uktony1525]

In the UK there is a product called Metpost Repair Spur for this situation. Saw the old post flush then hammer in the repair spur, dropping in the new post. Do you have this your side of the pond?.

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

I’ve seen a handful of things like it Tony. Do they work really well?

[@uktony1525]

They work for one or two posts but I would not want the whole fence supported by them. I would want a full metpost either side.

[@bbcake001]

Its much better to put at least 4 rebars, 9 inches from the post and hammer it down till you can't do it anymore and then pour your cement!!!

[@ZipSnipe]

Yeah this is the old way to do it, the cool new way is to get a concrete vibrator and clamp it to the fence turn it on for about a minute and I will straighten itself out. It’s amazing you got to try it

[@chavirawiser5010]

Hmmm... I finally followed Ann's advice and took Stodoys. It's great for beginners and has some advanced stuff too.

[@lugiasean19]

If that’s your fence and not the neighbors then it’s facing the wrong way. The exposed posts should be facing your side and the finished flat side should be facing the neighbors.

[@calleach173]

Realistically...keep the panel's as is...this is a mend...not not a mod... .quick & economical..

[@benjohnson2057]

Not at all incorrect given the chain link fence behind it

[@pobrichi]

That’s actually genius. Why do we sacrifice our own aesthetic for others!? We see it more than anyone else. I like this

[@lugiasean19]

@@pobrichi well there’s a couple reasons I could mention why you’d want it the other way but just legally speaking alone in most places it’s simply against code to do it that way. Another reason is that fences are meant mainly for 2 things privacy and security, if you have it turned the wrong way it’s extremely much easier to climb on the fence to look over and to climb over it completely versus trying to climb over the completely flat and finished side. I would never want to leave a built in step on the wrong side of my fence for looky-loos and trespassers to use whenever they’d like.

[@jimc6694]

Exactly what I thought when watching

[@timothy5974]

That fence need complete replacement. Not even worth the time.You have patience for sure, but I’m sure it’s just a quick fix. Good job

[@niome437]

Ok anybody here that can answer me this ..How do you go about neighbors that have so much junk on their lot and ,they have old mattresses and old refrigerators and doves against my fence .? Also ,they have taken 3 lots that do not belong to them and have junk on them as well. On one they have horses ,the other lot has a house and they destroyed that house and have goats and idk what on that land.And the other lot the same thing they have old cars and pigs but they do not own this lands. The one with the housezip a tax foreclosure sign has been removed over and over by them as soon as the guy that places it there leaves.They are annoying and think they own the street as well..they put their horses in front of my gate and they poop and they don't pick it up.Anybody?

[@TheBullOfLewisham]

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[@toddpeters9007]

Good fix, I built my fence about 6 years ago and storm bent 16' section back , so I may use your idea ..unless I take those sections out and start fresh!! Thanks

[@wakefieldallan]

Can't go into neighbors yard? Lame. I'd let people come onto my yard if my neighbors needed to do work. It's only proper good living. I'm so glad I've got great neighbors.

[@johnkelley9877]

Great advice! Thanks for making this tutorial.

[@samston]

the neigbor put lots of boulders behind my fence, one of the post is leaking inwards and ready to fall. I dont think supporting the post will help because of the huge boulders the neighbor placed behind my fence. What is your suggestion to get my post to straighten up?.

[@lovegodfirst654]

I would have fortified that other bow. I have a privacy fence in a high wind area. The bow doesn't last long before it goes. That other section will go with the next storm. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but fixing it before it goes is easier. I learned that the hard way. I knew it was going to be a problem and kept putting it off. Ripped down three sections. I would fix it before it creates more problems.

[@MartialartsfitnessUSA]

My fence is leaning towards the neighbors yard, my fence is at the top of a hill

[@weekendwarrior3420]

Finish concrete below grade and cover with dirt? That's how you make it rot again soon.

[@leonelherrera7924]

Your fence is facing the wrong way...the "ugly side" is supposed to face the owner.😕

[@t8rtaught]

Wow! My friend has this problem with their fence except it's with 3 post at different points along the fence. They've asked me to help fix & I'm glad I watched this video! Wish me luck & thanks again for unloading!

[@mathandphysicsplaylists4721]

How'd it go?

[@Authorthings]

How'd it go?

[@357エディ]

SIKA Post Fix foam ........can you use this instead of concrete?

[@ilyagolovey5248]

This should be temporary because that fence is gone...

[@stevecharman8420]

Exactly, no point in doing a top notch job on it. It looks like the whole fence will need to be replaced within 5-10 years.

[@brianjonker510]

That post not deep enough and not big enough for a fence that big. Honestly our carpenter should have pointed that out with the caveat that this post is more than adequate to last as long as the rest of the half deteriorated fence.

[@Authorthings]

I hate these fences but a new one is out of the budget right now. Thank you!

[@alecdaman3931]

Nails or screws? Did you predrill the holes?

[@bristleconepinus2378]

the work is easy if you have a decent neighbor, politics seems to be 90% to me.

[@niome437]

P.s I want to build a fence but I know they will break it or keep putting stuff against it.

[@timothypadilla1277]

Those new pickets stand out big time you can use a mixture of vinegar and steel wool to age them quickly

[@doconnor1354]

I'm just getting to this project. Great vid. I will try your suggestions. Thanks.

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Thanks Dennis! Good luck with the project :)

[@jh5124]

I see this over and over again. Concrete set posts rotting away after 5-10 years. I'm starting to think using concrete is a bad idea in the long run. It is probably not letting the water drain.

[@vincentnieto7792]

I curious as to why you didn't use a pressure treated post? It's coming in contact with the ground.

[@bobbierivas534]

Thank you for the video! What type and size of screws do you use to attach the picket and cross bar to the wooden fence posts? I'm not handy at all, just trying to repair my fence that detached from the post. The post isn't leaning, so I'm good there. Looks like whoever installed the fence used nails. That doesn't seem like it would hold and probably why the fence has detached. Seems like some sort of screw would be better. Do I drill a small hole in the fence before drilling in the screw? Thanks a bunch!!

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Exterior grade screw Bobbie! Prob 3-1/2” if it’s going through picket and crossbar into post.

[@jeffcarpenter6306]

Thank you for this video. I have to do this same project at my son home.

[@nancyselzer628]

Two of my lazy a whole neighbors put chain lamp fence right up against my privacy wood fence just like you show here. Needless to say they never clean out the fence line and all kinds of silver maples and weeds grow between them now. I'll tell you some people are just stupid.

[@prettybaby80]

My neighbor just planted a small tree directly behind my side of the fence that’s already leaning from her side into mine. Instead of fixing her side at least, she plants a small tree directly on the side facing my yard. Not the other 3 sides, but our shared side. I’ve already had two beams installed temporarily to lean my side upright. Instead she plants a tree there . Could have left it in the planter but no plants it alongside an already falling fence. Just wants the attention to get me to contact her smh 🤦‍♀️. If I had the money I’d put up a concrete wall

[@gencspahiu1966]

So is this your side of the fence? Or you’re on your neighbors yard in order to fix it?

[@deanrampy4564]

Get a better mic

[@chloelambert3015]

I need to find a simpler tutorial I’m rlly dumb

[@shawzhang4498]

hi, I have a wooden backyard fence like the one in the video. but I am not sure whether I own it or my neighbor does. is it possible to judge by the side of the fence? I have the smooth side.

[@Thejay120]

you share it lol

[@joelglanton6531]

I know this is old but if anyone else has the same problem you really should get a surveyor out on your property to tell you definitively where it begins and ends. You do not "share" the fence; it belongs to whoever has it on their property.

[@macgyver52]

The rules is usually the person who pays for the fence gets to put it where they want it( within 2 feet of the property line) to avoid rocks, trees or just to square the lot. Some property lines are kind of funky or at angles. Or you just want to take the 2 feet for yourself. And a good bartering tool is to give your neighbor the good-looking side of the fence. Always talk to your neighbor before you put up a fence! most people are pretty agreeable if you're going to pay for it and give them the good-looking side they'll usually let you come in a foot or so.

[@gunterbecker8528]

Great job mate ,you are a godsend! The world would be a better place if there were more people like you 😊

[@Defund_HOA.]

Random, but anyone recognize what animal makes that call @ 2:11? Haven't heard that since childhood

[@cryengine_x]

it's called a bird i believe

[@craigsmith4775]

Would have used a concrete spur and attached it to the existing post especially as it's getting covered up. Essentially same repair but no more wood in the ground.

[@SlickArmor]

What is this spur you speak of?

[@KY_CPA]

You've got other videos touting the oscillating tool. Do you purposefully avoid using a blade made for nails or for wood with nails?

[@motherfudger6664]

Glad I came across this, I like the idea of screw anchors in the footing. I get a lot of fence repair requests so that'll help out I'm sure.

[@dolittle6781]

Thanks for showin' us how to do this. Nicely done!

[@hampd2528]

How much should I charge a client for this type of job?

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

@Hamp D I think it can vary based on how much you're doing. I was somewhere between $450-500 for this repair, but it included a few small things I didn't really show here. Also, markets can differ pretty drastically based on home prices and such. You bidding something like this soon?

[@hampd2528]

It's very possible for the near future. I'm planning to tap into the market shortly because the area that I live in is riddled with fences in this exact condition. Thanks again for the video and feedback. Keep'em coming and I'll be sure to sub to your channel bro!

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

@@hampd2528 Awesome, thank you! For what it's worth, I love projects like this--fairly straightforward, low material cost, easy to knock out in a single day. You can line em up one after another. Good luck with the work!

[@hampd2528]

Yes sir, and Roger that!

[@Billcarsonstobaccobox]

Just the video I needed. The wind and ivy caused the detiriation of 4 of my long fence panel sections. This video helped. Nice one fella

[@JDL_2020]

Don't forget to call your utilities to mark before digging.

[@BondeyeView]

My neighbour is concerned about that very thing.

[@macgyver52]

Ya in front yard!

[@brasilprasempre6898]

You need a whole new fence , it's pretty rotted

[@chrisjohnwebster1]

Thanks very useful, great to about putting screws in the base of the post

[@catherinerosa-baker2937]

Thank you. Its exactly what I needed to know

[@ssjordan34]

You just saved me $5000

[@Ceares]

thanks, you made this look completely doable for an amateur DIYer

[@alexandrapacheco4293]

Thank you so much for this video! Very informative easy to follow. You saved us a lot of time and money!

[@cvictor1983]

Thanks for sharing it’s gonna help me with my fence I gotta redo cause of the post getting loose.

[@CarlosLopez-tt5py]

Thanks for you video I have the same problem 25 year old fence

[@TheHonestCarpenter]

Carlos Lopez you’re welcome, Carlos! This is a great way to add some more years to it. 🙂

[@douglasharley2440]

great video, thanks! *respect*

[@skylerwyatt7993]

How do I fix a wood fence and gate that has damage and or deteriorated area's?

[@davejarvis7522]

What would you pay for this to be fixed ,what you just did?

[@Jonnyweareten]

I'm on the fence.

[@blinkbuttonmash1272]

This is spot on for the job I'm doing, thank you for posting this sir 😀