Faction Focus 2024 Slaves to Darkness

[@kellyhoesing2573]

I'm going to take two Daemon Princes, name them Hans and Franz and have them run around the board together pumping each other up.

[@Questioningbasics]

They can target themselves but I love this.

[@matty3484]

How can someone share something with themselves?

[@Pootleflump]

​@@matty3484 I eat share size bags of chocolate all the time with myself.

[@matty3484]

Definition of share: "to have, get, or use in common with another or others," Turns out you just ate a whole bag for yourself and gained a mark of nurgle. But do we really need to wait for an faq on this rather than just not playing like meta chasers? I'm not even sure it's lore friendly for a demon prince to be rolling on the eye of the gods as they've achieved demonhood. Anyway, I'm not going to play it like that because I'm not interested in making feels bads in my local club by strongest possible interpretation.

[@Pootleflump]

@@matty3484 being serious, this is currently the case in 3e that "friendly" units also includes the unit with the ability. I doubt the rule writer was expecting people to be anal about "shares a Mark of Chaos with this unit".

[@decokane1019]

Now I'm hyped! All that time painting knights and warriors and chosen might actually pay off. For the dark gods!

[@nathanielfischer5440]

Yeah really. The new book looked good on paper in third, but unfortunately, they kept printing completely broken books while std was just good.

[@matthewstrike7719]

Great overview! As a Slave to Darkness myself I'm stoked with our new rules. I am a Cabalist player so sad to see that subfaction go but it would probably have been OP for 4.0 in it's current form. It's cool that the unique Undivided heroes can benefit from Eye of the Gods as in 3rd they basically couldn't interact with the core faction mechanic at all. The EotG table looks really strong, perhaps there should be a harsher penalty than d3 damage for landing a 1 on the reroll. Hoping that our Beasts/Monsters have cool abilites to make them worth playing for once and that we get other ways to get to roll on the Eye table like spells and enhancements.

[@johnnyhellkite6347]

I'm new to table tops and no one has helped me understand aos more than you. Thank you

[@gstellar96]

I'm very glad they kept the eye of the gods, although simplified still seeme fun

[@FrPeter81]

Super excited for this army! A friend has quit AoS to concentrate on the Old World, and had given me a load of stuff for AoS, including his Slaves to Darkness army. I can't wait to field loads of Knights and Varanguard, charging across the battlefield, looking like some sort of crazy power metal band from the 80s, eager to smash the enemy into utter ruin! 💪🏼😅

[@DGtil01]

What makes the Daemonic speed even more insane is the fact it can now be cast on any StD unit and not just mounted units like the current version. Might actually make theradons viable as the biggest problem I've had with them is getting them into combat before being deleted by range units. Chosen with a 3D6 charge also sounds like a terrifying prospect...

[@theDackjanielz]

i personally want to see an entire faction focus on shirts

[@alextruecustodian6174]

"To the ordinary, we are unknowable. Fallen, corrupted, rightly feared. You cannot understand our origins, our motives. The dawning realisation we are not fallen, WE ARE ASCENDED"- Chaos Knights looking at the Blood Knights

[@Link-ik4ww]

I absolutely love these break downs, one thing I would request tho, is that when you’ve got text on screen , even if you just summarise it or go over that text on screen in somewhat detail for those of us new who listen to these videos as we do other things rather than watching as we don’t know when they’re on the screen if we’re doing dishes or something for example. Context is handy sometimes I get confused have to stop what I’m doing, read those paragraphs and then get back to what I’m doing for context so if you could do that in these videos they’d be absolutely perfect 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@borna1231]

I started collecting Slaves to Darkness about a few months before they anounced the fourth edition, when I just entered AoS. I find the lore and the models so FREAKING cool that I couldn´t care less if the rules sucked. But this faction focus makes my shrivelled little black heart almost beat faster with happines!

[@Jackgreengrass]

Same. I think we've picked the right army to play!

[@jasoncarson7608]

That makes 3 of us 😄

[@borna1231]

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!! Cheers guys, I'll roll some damage this Saturday in your names.

[@Bjorn_Tyrson]

i've been wanting to get into age of sigmar for a few years. (Never done any tabletop wargaming before, but was a big fan of total warhammer) always loved the lore and look for slaves to darkness, about a year ago I picked up that big starter box for 3rd ed. which has been sitting in the closet properly marinating in dust since then. but last week I decided to get back into it, currently assembling my first ever set. and thats when I found out about the new rules set. then this comes out and makes me super happy with the choice :D

[@Jackgreengrass]

@@Bjorn_Tyrson welcome to the team.

[@Dreadnob]

Rob talking about the daemon princes' trophy rack in the thumbnail.

[@andrewjamieson7178]

Nice shirt. Great insights on Slaves. Built my first theridon whilst watching.

[@deebernaers137]

No shirts, only Juggz! Hope you're feeling better, thanks for doing all these videos!

[@squidjuice666]

I love seeing you in more OR less shirts!

[@cursling9]

Good that you mentioned the shirt. The first thing I thought was "ooh, not black"

[@KingRicko]

great vid as always Rob. Really happy with the faction focus as an S2D player, couldn't have got much better. Best thing is still finding people on a few discords who are upset about the FF, despite it being probably the best one shown...people aye

[@Camlorious]

I'm excited to see more shirts on the channel in the future.

[@skrdlov]

If I were to pickup AoS, this is the faction I would take. Mostly for Darkoath. Great points and discussions here Rob - you are making it accessible and welcoming as always.

[@jameswoods3035]

Just recently came to AoS from 40K about three weeks ago. I picked up the old start collecting box and the Eternus Battleforce box. I play CSM, so the logical choice was to pick Slaves. It's exciting to see that they're looking to be a fun army!

[@mikeedwards6454]

Comments 👍 love the videos, love the shirts , love the enthusiasm, don’t change baby!

[@TheWarCouncilTable]

What’s the difference between crit: auto wound vs crit: mortal wound? I’m assuming auto wound doesn’t get ward saves where mortal wound does?

[@capt.mannerings8095]

Oh some tasty looking things here. Belakor looks even more fun and thinking the rules look good.

[@abelhernandez2097]

Looks like the Knights lost their mortal wound ward. Womp womp.

[@1625capassepas]

I'm here for the lord of change numbers a spells narative!

[@anthonyreal1594]

@TheHonestWargamer Question: There's no "Mark of Chaos" keyword which tells you which units get the marks buff. Be'Lakor has the Undivided Keyword. Do you think this means that we should read Be'Lakor's warscroll (And Darkoath mauraders) as +1 to wound monsters and heros?

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Absolutely correct.

[@Malisteen]

After the soulblight preview, I know some vamp players who were really disappointed/underwhelmed by blood knights, and I spent a fair bit of time trying to convince them that, no, they were ok, you had to judge them in context of 4e (less save stacking), etc. Then the StD preview comes out and chaos knights are just flat out amazing, and now even I am finding blood knights underwhelming by comparison.

[@stevecatpatrick8056]

Blood knights are faster and can heal and default ward, knights have their advantages. Pretty similar just different trade-offs.

[@traiantulbure3819]

I was also fairly positive about blood knights until the STD preview. It’ll depend somewhat on whether there are any available buffs for blood knights, but as it stands with the extra wound and mark of khorn, chaos knights are just flat out better and blood knights feel very meh by comparison. Sad.

[@steampunkjim]

I cannot fathom what they were thinking with that knight warscroll. Absolutely baffling. Best unit we've seen so far.

[@stevecatpatrick8056]

@@steampunkjim You're exaggerating. Let's see what was gained or lost comparing Khorne marked knights: Gained: +1 health +1 to hit Lost: +1 to wound(banner) 0.33 inches of combat range(Lost their ability to attack when within a half inch of another knight within a half inch) Lost their musician, which let you change one D6 to a 4. This made minimum charge a 5/or 6 with the spell. Made your charges a lot more reliable. Lost the 5+ ward vs mortals. Lost the champions other weapon which made it more reliable in noncharge combat So you can see it's not so cut and dry. It depends what profile attacks it and what other buffs are going around if it has more survivability or not. It's definitely still really solid and did not get nerfed It just got changed around. I'm happy with it but I don't think it's insane out there or anything. Especially considering that cavalry in general seems to be getting more health as we've seen probably because it's going to be costly and we can see there's a lot of anti-calvary units out there that didn't exist before and that's going to really impact cavalry.

[@steampunkjim]

@@stevecatpatrick8056 what they gained or lost has literally nothing to do with the conversation. 3rd edition has exactly zero to do with 4th edition. Of the things we've seen, chaos knights are far and away the best Cavalry unit in the game. And probably the best unit in the game altogether. 3rd edition does not matter.

[@austinj2065]

We need no shirts sir

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

on it

[@kellyhoesing2573]

That's for Khorne review

[@sirbobulous]

StD are my only army now (after the gutting of Sacrosanct Stormbros). But Nurgle Chaos Knights as an alpha bunker is mad. 20 wounds on 3+ saves with -1 to wound?

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

There's a lot more + to wound in the game but definitely that's a thing

[@WarsmithHuggy]

Heh... dark oath marauders really go "WITNESS ME!"

[@ElOvnen]

This "Rob" character - is he expressing the opinions of some kind of corporate entity?? Or is what he's saying in these videos just his personal opinion, or something?? Despite this, honestly, inappropriate lack of clarity, I'm really loving this entire video series. They've been very helpful in digesting what's being previewed! To be serious, this channel and these videos are a big part of why I'm getting pretty excited to jump into AoS with the new edition!

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I represent no one but myself. The honest wargamer has always had a zero sponsorship policy

[@baconjustice]

Wll there not be Lumineth Realm-lords faction focus coverage?

[@estoc5467]

Be'lakor finally getting a ward like every other daemon 🥲 Sigvald wants his shirt back.

[@stevecatpatrick8056]

Yea ita a good preview. I seriously hope our unlimited spell isn't the one nobody takes in 3rd. Ine thing to consider is STD had a lot of power in the banners and its musicians/standard bearers gave stronger buffs than most. Chaos knights aeem to have gotten a LOT slower, which is a fair tradeoff for their tankiness gain. They lost run and charge, and the turning the lowesr D6 into a 4, which was amazing. And their range in combat is axtually lower than rhan previously with the 3" unicersal change. So a sidegrade really, which is just fine by me but makes them less guaranteed on the rhe charge but tougher once they are there. Overall this is a food preview. Knew id be sad to lose all the modularity, STD was a list builders tome and my fav across all of AOS and 40k. But its arill just an index after all, hopefully rhe 4e tome brings it back. No cavalry batyle formation ia crazy though. STD are the premier cavalry army in the game!

[@getorix1]

A great shirt and slaves to darkness looking fun, top quality faction focus video.

[@PssicoNets]

I play slaves to darkness, but cant really get if the units are better. I mean, its definitely simpler, but is it better?

[@destructor134]

Nice to know knight and varanguards are still gonna be crazy

[@wyldbilll3183]

I would like someone to go over the Ogroid in the S2D army. There’s a good number of how to paint videos, but nothing on playing them. You can create your own Ogroid army or have them as support troops. What is the best way to utilize them.

[@tizianomerello6530]

About demonic speed, it says in your hero phase and for the rest of the turn. I think it means until the end of your turn so probably you can’t counter charge 3d6:( am I wrong?🤔

[@danielcraine120]

Shirts are a must

[@WeOnlyEatSoup]

Besides Skaven these are my boys! Love everything about the new Slaves to Darkness like (team Archeon)

[@Vaellas]

As someone who has been intending to start a S2D army consisting of Darkoath and Ogroids this has me excited. Belakor has also always been my when I can paint well I will get him model so seeing -that- profile. Oh boi.

[@Kircholm]

Are The Core rules already available or they were leaked somewhere?

[@massimorolli4414]

I think you should theme your shirts to the army you are talking about. A Hawaian flower shirt for tomorrow's Silvaneth would be ace! 😀

[@chrisheick7486]

thanks, you made me feel better about the reveal

[@DukensteinA1]

Rob, as a Texan, I like your shirt.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Means a lot to me

[@davidkerr900]

Kuteboys and STD look the best, defs looking through my own Dave coloured glasses.

[@thegamersmanifesto3671]

Was cautuously optimistic about the S2D reveal, super pleased with how it came out. Be'Lakor, Daemon Prince and Knights all buffed quite nicely. Waiting for the super high points hammer to drop though.

[@gnaleinad]

I wanna see you appear in other channels as a guest playing AoS!

[@markpandelidis2079]

DP broken at the moment because it doesn't say pick a different unit. Which means it can pick itself, since it will share its own Mark and because it says use the eye of the gods ability, that also means it has the re-roll because it's built into the ability. So every your hero phase, demon princes are just making themselves roll and gaining buffs. They can increase their own rend to infinity.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

To +5 it's not broken

[@markpandelidis2079]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams the max theoretical rend you could increase by on any unit is +15. At the end of every turn + your hero phase. But besides that, ya seems pretty broken if you can make even 2-3 units in your army have +5 rend by turn 3. Not including honor guard or anything else.

[@kendrickwhite4868]

Hey Rob, you rock homie.

[@keysersozie3312]

Rob you don't seem to be as congested in this video as your last few, congrats on feeling better. good video.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Thanks. Still feeling really low energy

[@JimCrimmins]

I am pro shirt.. A controversial stance I know, but there it is. Keep wearing shirts, keep up the great content. Glad you're feeling better. Chaos is kewl.

[@sps62487]

Demonic Speed also know as full send

[@billthemarine4435]

Nice shirt Rob.

[@Slydamiser]

that intro seriously hyped me as a STD player

[@marc-andredeslauriers7687]

Been maining StD since V2 book. I am HYPE AS ALL HELL. For them dark gods yeah 😂🤘

[@TrebleAmp]

I think a beret would look good on you!

[@minacapella8319]

My main army is going to be interesting this edition.

[@jordanknapp7757]

Belly also get +1 tocwound against hero’s as he got undivided keyword!

[@davidcanty7903]

Would have liked to see a Archeon reveal.

[@rodolfomaravillasduran8793]

For the dark gods

[@Vkandis72]

I assume you would use Magical Intervention which allows the reacting player to cast a spell in their opponent's turn to give 3d6 for a counter charge using Daemonic Speed. Seems pretty expensive and risky to pull off requiring 3 command points--1 for Magical Intervention and 2 for Counter Charge. Since you have to cast the spell in your opponent's hero phase you are also putting a sign up that says "hey this unit is going to counter charge" giving your opponent the ability to account for that possibility and derail the countercharge. Sure you do not have to counter charge but then you spent a command point on a spell to influence enemy movement---I guess there maybe some benefit to that. If command points are easily generated then I guess that might be enough value but my sense is casting Daemonic Speed in your opponent's turn will not be particularly effective.

[@maciejkapaczynski6601]

this shirt is very spicy! and the video also

[@Cus27l]

I'm so excited for this video my tummy hurts

[@KevinPotter-w5c]

Hearing this I’m actually quite surprised, still think the demon prince tail of blades should be included as a weapon 😢but overall not to bad considering

[@jasoncarson7608]

So excited for S2D!!

[@arronfaulkner54]

I'm currently 13,000 points of slaves to darkness now, been collecting since 2022 and most of this is great, I do just feel the eye of the gods isn't as good now cus not wizard buff or turn to demon Prince is big loss plus if just doesnt have the character the current one has, it's not bad if anything it is better but still I prefer the current

[@KevinPotter-w5c]

Be it be as good with the theridons would be a great bonus, shame no dark opothiosis any more though

[@kajetanagacinski6871]

New shirt POG!!!!!

[@risejaenu]

slaves of darkness looking gooooood, even the daemon prince😊

[@benthomas5108]

Only downside for me is there is a lot of bookkeeping with this army - loads of tokens and permanent effects to keep track of 😂

[@JMR_89]

waaaagh! No wait.

[@briochepanda]

Mark of Tzeentch spawn hoard meme list when?

[@piotrjeske4599]

I wonder if people would allow me to play my SCE as Slaves. Sequitors as warriors, evocators as chosen and l could use the dracolithes evocators as knights

[@chrisaurovilian4618]

You kinda skipped Lumineth, right?

[@Mensch777]

I wish my heroes could fail the gods and transform in a spawn like in the old days

[@johanderyck6598]

You don’t know what we want? Liar! We wanr more Juggz!

[@Bazanti]

At least 3 shirts next time. Plz!

[@juapa2803]

How do our Idoneth friends feel now that every army has strike first / strike last abilities? Frankly, this FF alongside with SoB feel very unbalanced…

[@HazelMoon-vc5ul]

I'm a slave to your content

[@AUS10F]

STD looks great.

[@markpandelidis2079]

Doesn't it feel kind of bad though that S2D look way stronger than everyone else? They have the ability to gain unlimited rend when everyone else is capped at 1 or 2

[@Almighty_Mage]

No

[@markpandelidis2079]

@@Almighty_Mage I guess we'll wait to see how long Slaves are broken for

[@Jacklyfe]

LETS GO

[@Vasily_Kotickovitch]

I absolutely love Warhammer Age of Sigmar, just like 40k. But Games Workshop can't be trusted. They said "scoop of the project has changed" for ToW, - which means nothing good for Warhammer Age of Sigmar. Who can guarantee that in half a year GW will not say “The Slaves of Darkness are completely move to the Old World, rebase to squares or play use Legend trash can rules at home only. And no, coexistence is impossible: after all, the very idea of ​​“one miniature for only one system” is clearly an invention of Specialis Games / Forge World. Pure fantasy fanservice: ToW/HH patricians hate and are jealous when 40k/AoS plebeians play with their toys.

[@neillcaughey6727]

Shirtless

[@swaggyshadow2124]

Rob i wanna see you in less shirts🤣

[@kurukblackflame]

Most units in the game have been heavily nerfed-Including a lot of units that nobody was taking because they sucked. Now Chaos Knights (who were already very strong) have been made even better. Is GW trying to shift those kits or something? They threw a bunch of fun abilities in the trash and yet kept Belakor's very toxic 'you don't get to play' ability. Not impressed.

[@theokikphotography]

Comment

[@mariuszszkudlarek2491]

Now i know what to think about slaves

[@l337haxz0rn00b]

Mankini

[@evefear8210]

It was boring to play, this will be the same now.