Cosmetic silicones and alternatives

[@rebeccabeebe1]

i absolutely love this channel and how you break down ingredients and the information.. for someone who gas loved science since highschool and who dreams of having a small skincare business someday these videos are so helpful!, i have been binging your videos all week

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Our pleasure! Happy formulating :)

[@willieedwards996]

This is a great presentation on silicones..... I am a senior formulation chemist and I'm part of a team that have several junior chemist and techs.... I will definitely be showing this video to them. Great job!

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Thank you - happy formulating!

[@ShardaeMcGee]

I am making lipgloss and in one of my favorite brands Stilla, they have Dimethicone listed as the only ingredient. So my question is how do I choose the right alternative from the ones you listed to make lipgloss? I'm using mica pigment powder, tkb gloss base, and organic oils such as coconut and vitamin e oil as well.

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

You would probably find our Create Cosmetic Formulas program very useful to support your lipgloss developments, you can make as many as you like with the ingredients you choose! Find out more here: createcosmeticformulas.com/Cosmeticformulas/FormulateCosmetics-894/Makemakeupformulas-901/ Or, to provide you with individual advice, we’d need to review the product and what you are hoping to achieve in more detail, please purchase consulting time here: personalcarescience.com.au/Advice/Advice-2046/

[@ShardaeMcGee]

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[@JulieLovesHair]

Excellent educator you are Ms. Belinda...This question is stemmed from your video "Hair Oil's". How do you access if a raw 'Silicane' ingredient is Volatile or Non-Volatile? I do not see it on the MSDS, all I see on the MSDS sheet is that items Viscosity level. Volatile nor Non-Volatile is not listed on the MSDS.

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Look for the flashpoint on the MSDS. If it is around 80degC or less, then it is volatile.

[@everflow5168]

Finally, my highly anticipated silicone-video - thank you so much Belinda! I also try to do some educational work about silicones here 😉, but it's hard to find some reliable material. I visited the In-Cosmetics and asked a lot and spoke with some silicone manufacturers. It’s a lot of work for them nowadays to clarify the misunderstandings and the misrepresentation of cosmetic silicones. There is even a company here in Europe which can produce some 100% „green“ silicones biobased on methanol of grass clippings. But still, they are not approved for Ecocert or Cosmos (because they are using hydrochloric acid in the process - even if they manage to keep it in their production circle) What I couldn’t find out totally, is how is the environmental impact of silicones, and you mentioned it also just very shortly. I was told some of them can degrade down back to silicon dioxide, but it depends on the structure, functional groups and side chains. One woman said: „If they are so bad degradable, why noone is talking about a „micro silicone problem“? 😊 I thought there is a point- everyone is just talking about microplastic. She also mentioned the ridiculousness of the D4 and D5 ban in Europe! Do have some furter infos about silicone and environment?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Good points you raise Everflow! Volatile silicones actually aren't a big issue - they are volatile! For other grades/types, it really depends on their structure, but lets just say the short answer is they are no worse than vegetable or plant oils that go through similar processing e.g. if its ethoxylated silicone or ethoxylated plant oil, its no different. If its dimethicone it is biodegradable. From what I have seen there is biodegradability issue and they either go to biomass or get further degraded - to find out specific to each grade of silicone used it is best to speak with the supplier because there are so many forms. As a short answer, I haven't seen a biodegradability issue from what I've looked into, but please contact the suppliers direct they would very happily provide you with technical documents to support this in more detail :)

[@victerpenate6201]

May I ask about Peg-10 dimethicone. I’m interested in using it for a watery toner to reduce sticky ness to the formula and improve sensory experience. I read peg-12 Dimethicone would be a great choice but I can’t find that with any small suppliers. Would Peg-10 Dimethicone be soluble in water and also work for the formulation idea I have? I appreciate the help in advance!

[@juliecole3861]

Brilliant delivery and very informative!! Thanks so much for sharing ♥♥

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[@sresthachatterjee2187]

Can we use two types of silicone in a formula like dimethicone and emogreen L19 for lip souffle? What's the maximum amount of silicone used in makeup and body care products?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Yes you can. If making a totally anhydrous product, there is no limit! Obviously for other formulas you need to limit input based on the oil content of the formula. Learn how to formulate with active ingredients, including how to stabilise them in your formulas and check quality/stability with our Certificate in Advanced Cosmetic Science: personalcarescience.com.au/CosmeticScience/CertificateinAdvancedCosmeticScience-478/ or Diploma of Personal Care Formulation: personalcarescience.com.au/CosmeticScience/DiplomaofPersonalCareFormulation-479/

[@mehboobbadami]

Hi.. Thanks for sharing great information about silicone.. Please IPCS.. What would be natural alternative to ozokerite and hydrogenated polyisobutene.. Thanks a lot

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Hi Mehboob it really depends on the product type and how 'stick like' the end product needs to be, you can learn this with us or get consulting advice, please email us: [e-mail] Happy formulating!

[@mehboobbadami]

@@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401 THANKS SURE..

[@loubernadinedeguzman1707]

Hi Belinda! Thank you for this video! Is it necessary to put silicone in lip balm or tinted lip balm? Because a lot of products in the market contains silicone. Thank you for your time!

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

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[@ianwoo9120]

Fantastic videos! Just wondering, would you happen to know which forms of silicone help in scar reduction?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

No, it is a combination of ingredients, the emulsifiers hold oil inside what is called a micelle, while the water surrounds the micelles. No ingredients alter their chemical structures, it is just emulsifiers trapping oil inside which is why they look milky/creamy. You will enjoy our Beginners cosmetic science series, which explains this properly with diagrams: personalcarescience.com.au/CosmeticScience/BeginnersCosmeticScienceWorkshops-469/ :)

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[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Thank you for watching. You can learn this in full detail by studying with us - all online - learn anywhere in the world! Please contact us for course information and which course is going to best suit you: [e-mail] You can also get your formulation questions answered LIVE with Belinda, join our Patreon channel here: www.patreon.com/personalcarescience

[@mdml0]

Thanks for clearing this for us. I recently asked L'occitane regarding their aromachologie line and why they advertise being silicone-free on instagram and they replied saying silicones accumulate on hair over time.

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

It’s unfortunate that the myth that silicones accumulate or coat the hair still persists. Silicones are no more likely to accumulate on the hair than a plant oil - they’re all lipid substances that get washed off with a shampoo. Styling polymers are not silicones, and they coat the hair to hold a style - but they too get washed off with a shampoo. The concept that a silicone builds up on the hair is not founded on any scientific principles, its just a marketing claim used to make consumers seek out silicone free products without any scientific reason for it.

[@renatastone8447]

Hi Belinda, is it best to add dimethicone to the water or oil phase of a product? Specifically for lotions and creams.

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

This should be added to the oil phase. Learn how to formulate with active ingredients, including how to stabilise them in your formulas and check quality/stability with our Certificate in Advanced Cosmetic Science: personalcarescience.com.au/CosmeticScience/CertificateinAdvancedCosmeticScience-478/ or Diploma of Personal Care Formulation: personalcarescience.com.au/CosmeticScience/DiplomaofPersonalCareFormulation-479/

[@athenalong]

THIS VIDEO IS FANTASTIC. Love you, Belinda! Your are a DOLL! 💋

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Thanks so much for the feedback.

[@Lisa-rd1qg]

Thank you for this very informative video. I love all that you have been sharing.

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We have loads of videos that can help you out! Please go to the search bar on our channel: kzbin.info/door/czaVLd160LPFdn9E8hrYxA And enter the topic to find related videos. Happy formulating!

[@nourelhouda34]

Please what's the difference between between cetiol cc ,c5 and cetiol HE

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

The viscosity and skin feel - get some samples in and you will see! You can also learn more about different oils/lipids and alternatives in our Can I use a different oil workshop: personalcarescience.com.au/Workshops/Oilsbuttersandwaxesworkshop-5209/

[@jabbymehvash8113]

hi thanks for excellent info and latest trends in cosmetics . your videos are inspiration for budding chemists thanks

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Thank you.

[@Kontraleah]

Are silicones and silicone alternatives typically added to the heated oil phase, or cooldown? (Or perhaps it depends on the silicone?). This was a great overview, super informative and thorough. Thank you.

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

We’re happy to provide the full formula, ingredient, supplier, input and method details, please email us: [e-mail] and we can send you a link to access ALL our free formulas and reports. Happy formulating!

[@kaystary]

How can I get these alternatives? Are they available for public use?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Try this page which lists hundreds of small suppliers all over the world: createcosmeticformulas.com/IngredientSuppliers/Suppliers-897/ Please also join our Facebook Group, Cosmetic Raw Materials for Small Brands: facebook.com/groups/1734896293290235// and post your request there, it is a group specifically to help small brands like yourself source materials like this in smaller quantities. Happy formulating!

[@Yuchub33]

Are coconut alkanes (emogreen) as volatile as cyclopentasiloxane?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

No, they are not.

[@baisakhidas4955]

Dimethicone can it use with isopropyl myristate or isopropyl PALMITATE?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

To help you with this specifically, we would need to get full details of your formula and specifications of specific materials. This would take time to review and advise on properly, please purchase consulting time here: personalcarescience.com.au/Advice/Advice-2046/ so we can advise you properly on your specific situation.

[@HanaLoose]

Learning so much from your videos! Thanks!

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We have loads of videos that can help you out! Please go to the search bar on our channel: kzbin.info/door/czaVLd160LPFdn9E8hrYxA And enter the topic to find related videos. Happy formulating!

[@Angela-Gee]

Hello. My lipbalm has an ingredient named "polyester 4'. Is it safe for lips? Plz help

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Companies are required to ensure that all materials they use in personal care are safe for application in the manner they are intended. You could contact the company direct if you have further concerns, otherwise to help you with your questions, please become a Patreon member at the Answers + Extras level, here: www.patreon.com/personalcarescience

[@Angela-Gee]

@@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401 you could just respond directly, but guess you're not much into helping people, just profit making. I'll find out by me self. Thanks.

[@eytlin]

Love your videos Belinda! 😍

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[@farahidahmohamed8907]

love your video, very informative...thank you very much

[@jerry6463]

Fantastic video! I want to ask why so many European sunscreens choose Caprilic triglyceride as the oil phase of the sunscreen instead of using silicones? Don’t silicones give a lighter feel and helps the product spread easier? Could it be because UV filters don’t dissolve in silicones easily?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Silicones are non-polar while many UV filters are polar - so it depends on what they have used but yes, polarity/solubility and long term stability could be an issue. You might find light skin feel esters (like C12-15 alkyl benzoates) are also readily used because they help reduce any residual greasy feeling.

[@shyletmudzamiri7323]

Thank you for really breaking this down 👌👌

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Thankyou for watching!

[@ngarayeva001]

Thank you for a great video. Silicones are absolutely amazing 😉

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Thank you. Glad you liked it.

[@helennaveen6782]

Another great video..what % of isoamyl laurate is lipsafe for a lipbalm

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Thank you for watching! It is safe in lipbalms in any amount, but the issue is it wouldn’t give you the right lip feel. You need cushiony oils or esters to give the lips a nice sensory feeling, and you won’t get this from isoamyl laurate. Castor oil is particularly good for this, which is why it gets used so much. We’ve got some great free videos on this channel for lipbalms, please go to our channel and use the search bar. :)

[@helennaveen6782]

@@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401 thanks you for the response.

[@ericwilliams5518]

Wonderful information and great video!

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Glad it was helpful! We have loads of videos that can help you out! Please go to the search bar on our channel: kzbin.info/door/czaVLd160LPFdn9E8hrYxA And enter the topic to find related videos. Happy formulating!

[@israaomer2266]

What about sillicon build-up in hair is that true? And if i want to formulate products for curly or natural, should I replace them with other alternatives?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

No, its not true. When you wash your hair any silicones present wash out like your sebum. All hair types benefit from a small lipid input, whether they be plant sourced, silicones, or silicone alternatives. Silicones and modified silicones actually make a great choice for hair products. If you are interested in learning more about hair care products, this is the best course for you: personalcarescience.com.au/CosmeticScience/CertificateinAdvancedHairFormulations-2134/

[@meryema1475]

Silicones "plastify" hair and skin...what do you think?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

No, they don't, and that is one of the problem myths that are out there. Please also watch my comedogens video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4HamXmwrb97eZo - there is nothing comedogenic or 'plastic' about a standard silicone. There are silicone based film formers just like there are 'naturally derived' based film formers - the film former materials (Regardless of sources) are intended to create a film - its not about it being silicone!

[@jignachhatbar3712]

I got my inolex sample kit for the Lexfeel range .. I am in love with it ❤

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Thanks for watching!

[@nomanmorris7783]

Very informative ..Thanks Belinda

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Glad it was helpful! :) Happy Formulating!

[@MahnaMatch]

Hi Belinda, I absolutely love your videos and how you explain things. You make it very simple and interesting to listen. Thinking of signing up for the coarse too. I do have one question. I’m formulating with Olivem 1000 (Cetearyl Olivate, Sorbitan Olivate) and I feel like it’s just too soapy. What would be alternative, more natural, silicones for reducing soapiness?

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Please watch this video which discusses why excess soaping happens, and how to fix it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6naZYSge6elhKs You will also find a variety of choice, with their pros and cons, when it comes to selecting emulsifiers in this workshop: Can I use a different emulsifier? personalcarescience.com.au/Workshops/Emulsifierworkshop-3165/ :)

[@sensimania]

Dermofeel Sensolv or Ecosilk works for me (at around 5%)

[@lindabambrough3128]

fabulous information. thank you very much

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[@charlettesgro9662]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for busting the myths spread on the net!

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[@user-fn6vm5tb8p]

Thank you for this brilliant video!

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[@StylishlyPolished]

Thanks so much for this info.

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[@GIMJ84]

In the natural hair care industry silicones are considered undesirable because apparently they dont wash off the hair without the use of sulphates, which can be drying to afro textured hair. Is this true that silicones dont readily wash off? I love coco-caprylate in my hair products. I want to try lexfeel but their not readily available here in the uk at the moment.

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

This is a myth. Silicones are no harder to wash off the hair than a plant oil - if its an ethoxylated or propoxylated material, it is actually EASIER to wash off than a plant oil. I don't know how that rumour started but I've heard it too, and its not true. If the silicone truly coated the hair it would feel heavy and lank, but again, you'd get the same response for plant oils that don't wash off the hair. I hope this helps.

[@GIMJ84]

@@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401 Thank you Belinda, I now shall be trying out some quaternium 80 with this information and . Thanks a lot

[@oricau436]

Great video!! Thank you!

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[@holistichair_nz]

Very informative thanks Belinda

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

You are so welcome! Glad it was helpful.

[@nounamassa5586]

Thanks for this interesting video could guar hydroxypropyl trimonium chloride and polyquatenium 7 or 10 replace silicones ?

[@everflow5168]

No. These are (highly charged) cationic polymers. They are used to condition hair and reduce the negative charge of the hair surface effectively and reduce combing force. Mosty these substances are used in shampoos because they work still in presence of anionic surfactants. Also they maintain the clarity of the formulation. Often these are combined with silicones because they have different effects and a different feeling.

[@theinstituteofpersonalcare6401]

Hi Nouna, Everflow's comment has captured it all - they have different purposes in the formula so no, they can't replace silicones, as they have different functionality in the formula. Happy formulating!

[@avamm519]

Thank you!!! So many people are so get confused with natural ingredients... some chemicals are as good as natural and some natural are as bad as chemicals... Like do customers want snake venom??? It’s natural lol

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[@sss201106]

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[@AnniePharm]

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[@ruraledition]

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