When you said ''Eclipse'' my heart sank for a second, thinking Cillain Murphy recommended the third Twilight book
@jessicaluk74 Жыл бұрын
Lmaoo
@magnifique909 Жыл бұрын
Me too! But I was exited to hear why for a second
@francescatelari Жыл бұрын
Same
@anairyplace Жыл бұрын
SAME! Came just to comment it but you beat me
@mayonesa123. Жыл бұрын
Thats the best one from the saga in my opinion, and the movie with that soundtrack was amazing (i read that book like 15 years ago so i don't really remember much of it but i do know it was my favorite lol)
@arya0553 Жыл бұрын
So Margot‘s recommendations are all flowers ans sunshines and happiness and Cillian out there is like „it wrecked my heart… I loved it.“ 😂😂
@lael5327 Жыл бұрын
Margot didn't stand a chance...Jack loves the gut-wrenching books, and clearly Cillian does too. 😂
@ShaelynnFockler08 Жыл бұрын
That’s Cillian for you 😭
@jessicaluk74 Жыл бұрын
True I love that
@MissCaraMint Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I would describe Dune as all flowers and sunshine and happiness.
@8ballstreet Жыл бұрын
@@MissCaraMintthere is, admittedly, a lot of sunshine
@tarathoughts13 Жыл бұрын
I would honestly pay to see Jack and Frank Herbert have a beach off
@jessicaluk74 Жыл бұрын
Same
@sabiha.sayeed Жыл бұрын
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57okay
@maryhough8041 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow Irishman, I appreciate the green papers for Cillian
@swiftieinabottle Жыл бұрын
Ken’s job is “beach.” Jack’s job is “book.” 😂
@mennaahmed7261 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is possible but, can you make a video like this about Greta gerwig and Christopher Nolan's favourite books/ book recommendations? I think it would be really interesting.
@paulam9743 Жыл бұрын
yesssss what a great idea!!
@mennaahmed7261 Жыл бұрын
@@paulam9743 thank you 🤍
@adweitaspams Жыл бұрын
THIS IS AWESOMEE
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Jack Edwards has 2 Rounds of Boxing: One with Charles Dickens and the other is Dune bashing.
@devika6609 Жыл бұрын
And the bonus round: Spanish Love Deception.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
@@devika6609 More like warmup round.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
@@Anmol2099x Algorithm, not me
@anakhanair_ Жыл бұрын
@@Anmol2099xwe all have the same taste ig
@Clazz94 Жыл бұрын
Barbies, say thank you to Literature Ken for doing a good job at Book today.
@Shaannooonn4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Literature Ken!
@ShaelynnFockler08 Жыл бұрын
As a certified Cillian Murphy stan I’ve never clicked on a video faster in my life
@bringmethebooks Жыл бұрын
SAME 😂😂😂❤
@jessicaluk74 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@Izzy-DarlingАй бұрын
I feel seen 😂
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Jack assembled the Barbenheimer TBR. His job is teach. P.S. You look adorable in the pullover. She’s Irrepressibly Unhinged Booktuber Barbie.
@nobodyelse7911 Жыл бұрын
I see you everywhere and I like all of your comments. Genuinely one of the nicest people I've seen on the internet lol. Good day to you.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyelse7911 Omg that’s so sweet brb crying
@nobodyelse7911 Жыл бұрын
@@PokhrajRoy. Also you've got great taste considering I keep on running into you 😜😂
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyelse7911 Thank you so much!
@tanaykewalramani4527 Жыл бұрын
Tere pass itna time kaise rehta hai bhai?😂
@hackerling Жыл бұрын
just to clarify, SAG-AFTRA is still on strike for TV/Streaming/Theatrical contracts! the writer's guild is the one that reached a tentative agreement with their own union, which is completely separate from the actor's union's strike and negotiations. they will, however, go back into negotiations Monday October 2nd! thank you for being supportive of actors and their strike!
@movingforwardLDTH Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Writers’ strike is off (although the membership hasn’t yet voted to accept/reject the contract, the last step). Actors (& others covered by SAG-AFTRA) still on strike, but the parties are restarting negotiations n Monday. (It was the companies who previously refused to return to the table.)
@clarasmith7775 Жыл бұрын
I’m a little confused by what he meant with this cause he’s been posting videos each month
@isfpoisson Жыл бұрын
@@clarasmith7775 I think his goal was to avoid promotion or either movie out of respect for the strike.
@mtrench1627 Жыл бұрын
I think it's so funny that Margot Robie's dog is named after Boo Radley and Cillian Murphy's dog is named after Scout.
@rafaelamb Жыл бұрын
“I would read her shopping list” , what a wonderful thing to say to a writer
@vulee100 Жыл бұрын
When im in a "reading irish authors competition" and my opponent is Cillian Murphy
@Hopuxx Жыл бұрын
"I was going around my house putting missing poster signs for the plot of this book" 😭😭😭 OH MY GOD
@nonelikekyu Жыл бұрын
was having a pretty bad day all around until jack's little spew about the mass migration of hot australians really got a laugh out of me at 2:36 HAHA thanks for the upload, jack! paused the video just to like and comment before continuing hehe
@jack_edwards Жыл бұрын
sending you a big hug! hope your day turns around!!
@maggie3842 Жыл бұрын
About Dune. Princess Irulans epigraphs are from her later writings when Paul „Muad’Dib“ pretty much became a religious figure. As for their function, I always thought that they meant to show how the universe saw Paul and the difference between reality and propaganda. Oftentimes what she writes doesn’t / didn’t quite happen that way and Paul himself is no hero, even though he's being worshipped like a deity. Additionally, like Paul, the reader knows what's gonna happen (in a way) but isn’t able to stop it
@videodonna5594 Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly! And the story isn’t meant to be suspenseful it’s meant to be “historical”, when you study history you already know what happens (or what the government has decided the story of what happened is) so like knowing the end, that Paul becomes a major figure isn’t a spoiler it’s why you’re studying him at all
@MissCaraMint Жыл бұрын
@@videodonna5594 Yes. it reminds me a lot of those historical fiction books about real historical characters. You know where it is going. You know Marie Antoinette for example eventually gets het head chopped off, or that Henry VIII ends up with a string of failed marriages where he kills off almost half of them.
@sashahalpern6746 Жыл бұрын
it's SO interesting how margot and cillian's tastes correspond to their countries' cultures
@Hungarycloud Жыл бұрын
I'm very curious, could you please elaborate?
@clara_hp6254 Жыл бұрын
I think what they mean is that, traditionally Ireland is painted as a melancholic country and also has a century long history of cultural opression (also The Troubles) which kind of leads to country wide collective trauma which often gets dealt with through stories. Irish people (and Northern Europeans for that matter) are also known to be very humble and don’t take praise very well contrary to for example the general American. Margot Robbie in the other hand is Australian, a country, at least to my knowledge, famous for the adventures and happiness etc. I would say it fits that Robbie would read the happy go lucky flowery books and Murphy reads the “let’s wretch my heart” books. (This is just what I would say, but I am from neither of those countries so pls correct me if I’m wrong) Edit bc I did indeed realizes that Margot Robbie is Australian. Also my knowledge of Australian culture is limited so pls add on your thoughts :))
@polinaantsiferova5551 Жыл бұрын
@@clara_hp6254Margot Robbie is Australian
@emmatobin3410 Жыл бұрын
she's Australian@@clara_hp6254
@Hungarycloud Жыл бұрын
@clara_hp6254 I'm from Australia which I is why I was wondering what OP meant. I don't think that any of Margot's picks reflect our culture. For example to Kill a Mockingbird is very American, the Hobbit has nothing to do with us, and neither do any of the other books.
@effielyngby7421 Жыл бұрын
Your backdrop looks so good now! Really love the current look of the library 😊
@mirandaaka21 Жыл бұрын
I literally JUST purchased "Grief is the thing with Feathers" and I see you mention it in the video!!! Can't wait to read it, it sounds amazing
@pollyebaker87 Жыл бұрын
LOVE this book.
@hydrosphere8447 Жыл бұрын
If you like it you should definitely try Lanny. It's more classic novel feel but all the gorgeous writing and a bit weird still. Easier to get stuck into but so many of the good points. I'm sad it's not shouted about more. Don't really get why it's not!
@swiftietwenty-two3424 Жыл бұрын
every time I see Cillian Murphy i think: “oh my god I’m shaking please buy her brown contacts”
@nishthagupta1357 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@daniellavaladez7820 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@blahblahblahstuff1 Жыл бұрын
YES!! Especially in the movie Red Eye! Very creepy but also good movie 😂
@jessicaluk74 Жыл бұрын
😭😭💀💀
@TalkAsSoftAsChalk Жыл бұрын
@@nanamikento_73And weirdly enough that looked more unsettling than anything else.
@caitplol Жыл бұрын
love the solidarity in not posting, was wondering where you went and now it all makes sense :)
@Iuhani Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, John Updike wrote Rabbit, Run in response to Jack Kerouac's On The Road. He wanted to show a realistic depiction of Kerouac's lifestyle and what the consequences would really be.
@asahdo Жыл бұрын
That’s very interesting!
@3shagaya3 Жыл бұрын
I'm here for Enid Blyton books. Her books shaped my middle school period! I remember devouring 'Famous Five' book series and 'The Secret Seven' series. My librarian during my 6th grade would not let anyone read any other books until we finished these series. This book was my gateway to detective books. I LOVE them. I do not remember any names, or even incidents, like you said, I remember only the feeling. I even forgot about these books. You mentioning them, it just GOD brought back all the memories. Love Margot for putting this out there, LOVE YOU for beautifully explaining the exact feeling that I share. I definitely am going to give a re-read. Aw! Lots of nostalgia bubbling, I can already see me enjoying them in the near future again! Thanks bud! You are AWESOME!
@anaserranocorces4551 Жыл бұрын
You can tell Margot is a reader since she was a kid.
@3shagaya3 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! And she remembers her books, which is even more amazing! I don't think I would think of these series right out of the box when I recommend books to anyone. She must have really enjoyed them so much that she remembers it. I am definitely giving them a re-read! @@anaserranocorces4551
@EmilySC23 Жыл бұрын
Enid Blyton really made me want to go to boarding school when I was six years old 😢😂
@loismcfadden586 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness your comment just connected dots for me.. secret 7 was definitely my gateway to my love for mystery and detective novels!! Amazing what childhood reading does
@3shagaya3 Жыл бұрын
@@loismcfadden586 I know right! A lot of my now favourite genre I thought I liked those because of certain books that I read recently. However, it so happens that I liked reading certain books in my middle school period which I totally forgot about and I just tapped into that genre energy like in my early 20s. All credit goes to Librarians!
@OliverFergusonAuthor Жыл бұрын
the true Barbenheimer we all needed.
@Mega21stcentury Жыл бұрын
I feel you on Secret Seven! The nostalgia for my childhood - no words!! I lived on Enid’s books!
@heyaitskiar Жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting for books in bookstores to have Jack’s opinion printed on their backs… would make everything so much easier
@sunnys2434 Жыл бұрын
"It's kind of giving Cosmo and Wanda, I'm not gonna lie" - laughed so hard, that made me so happy. Thank you!
@sj3576 Жыл бұрын
Cillian Murphy is starting in “Small things like these” 🥺. One of my favorite books played by my favorite actor!!!!
@robotdowney Жыл бұрын
This book is everywhere i hope they'll translate it one day so i could find it
@umanywaysO_O Жыл бұрын
Jack is the reason why my book tbr has now crossed 1500+ books. Thank you, King. Love the classics being displayed!
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
14:43 Lol I thought ‘Eclipse’ as in Twilight series
@Xxcsturniolo Жыл бұрын
I know my tbr is gonna grow whenever Jack posts any new video
@kausalyaboobalan5929 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@annerematt4379 Жыл бұрын
I would just like to clarify that as of now, SAG-AFTRA is still on strike. It's only the Writer's Guild that have reached a tentative agreement. Separate things that both need solidarity.
@244mahamfatima7 Жыл бұрын
finally, finally, FINALLY !! someone talked about enid blyton like that woman was my whole childhood and i love her so much i can't explain it
@kittomic23 Жыл бұрын
This has been my favourite Celebrity Book Club, Jack. I love the concept of Margot vs Cillian. Some very different kinds of books too. Have to say I was a Famous Five girl - they were MY series and changed my life, making me the voracious reader I am today - especially to follow a series or all of an author's works. Great fun and thoughtful. Hubby took Dune on FOUR holidays to read it. Finally finished this time!
@adinapogor7291 Жыл бұрын
I would looove to see what books Paul Mescal recommends it would be so interesting I'm sure
@nate6922 Жыл бұрын
sag aftra is still on strike. the wga has reached a tentative agreement.
@aishahussain990 Жыл бұрын
Not me getting distracted by Jack's clothbound classics 😭😭
@RAINH2O2014 Жыл бұрын
Tell me why you said "Eclipse" and I was like "ah yes the third book in the Twilight saga. Interesting choice" 😂
@Mikoswolves Жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d love to see more of this type of video where you’re pitting two people’s book tastes against each other. It was fun trying to guess who’d win😊
@meganchatters9966 Жыл бұрын
This format was really fun!
@cherrylady1999 Жыл бұрын
Obsessed with the Cillian Murphy literally canon
@M95-t7c Жыл бұрын
obsessed with cillian murphy, period
@cherrylady1999 Жыл бұрын
@@M95-t7c lol yeah
@rae25494 ай бұрын
as a kid i was SO obsessed with enid blyton and secret seven, i named my whole group of friends after that and I always wanted to just BE one of the kids who's solving mysteries. that was so long ago and that phase genuinely felt like a fever dream, but seeing that name again in this video just brought inexplainable joy to me.
@lisavt Жыл бұрын
Love the concept of this video and your enthusiastic presentation of all the books!
@WhytheBookWins Жыл бұрын
This is such a great idea for a video! And Jack is always so eloquent and entertaining!
@iamrjdennis Жыл бұрын
this is an absolutely crazy idea, and i expect nothing less from Jack
@hollyly88able Жыл бұрын
Your book shelves are looking lovely! 📚🤓
@tristandavis5043 Жыл бұрын
just fyi, sag-aftra is still on strike! it is the writers guild (wga) that reached an agreement this week. two different unions so two separate strikes! still excited for this video, jack!
@jack_edwards Жыл бұрын
yes, sorry I explained this badly! originally the videos I’d made included lots of references to their various struck film projects which I cut out of this one so as to abide by strike guidelines, and just talk about Margot and Cillian instead. then the day I filmed this the tentative agreement was made with WGA
@AvinaGreen Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it was purposeful but the framing of the bookshelf in the background where you have the side of it on the left and then then the wall on the right creating a natural border/ frame is incredibly satisfying.
@Ch3rryP13 Жыл бұрын
I’m here, I’m queer, and I’m ready to add more books to my tbr. Everyone thank Jack for feeding us today
@Tom-c5z2b Жыл бұрын
Nice to see some Enid Blyton in one of these videos. I loved the Famous Five as a kid and enjoyed the Secret Seven as well. I think it’s interesting that top actors are often very well read and interesting people.
@India-th1ur Жыл бұрын
Idk if this was a thing a while ago, or if it just blew over and was agreed to be false, but I thought there was a whole thing about Better Help being dodgy and having fake therapists and taking the identity of real ones. I remember reading a horror story about someone with an eating disorder who was trying to get help, she said "and yeah so i lost a lot of weight", and the 'therapist' congratulated her????
@sophiekempston5152 Жыл бұрын
i thought i was the only one thinking this!! and they are also in trouble with the FTC at the moment for mishandling sensitive health data from their customers...
@user-es7ui5mc1m Жыл бұрын
yeah they're *extremely* dodgy....
@AnyaSunNovikova Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video of yours so far! wonderful book recommendations with even better reviews!!!
@anushkamittal999811 ай бұрын
Secret Seven is also what got me into reading! They set such a high standard for mystery books for 9 year old me that I still haven’t found a book series that made me feel the same way lol
@sunshineeee Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a round 2 of this that’s the best of the best recommendations compiled from anyone on the full cast list of either movie go head to head omg
@urlocalbrunet Жыл бұрын
You know you really love a book when you can spot it far away on Jack's bookshelf 😂😂
@norarjona Жыл бұрын
I want to read every single book from Cillian's side ❤
@NicoDiAngelosStygianIronSword Жыл бұрын
Yesss a new Jack Edward video! Definitely will be listening to this for my lonngggg walk to my classes
@nandinihans9130 Жыл бұрын
Omg I also used to love books like The Secret Seven and The Famous Five as a kid.
@ishikasingh5909 Жыл бұрын
Fr enid blyton changed my entire life. Her books are laced with drugs better than anything out there
@Chizekielogb Жыл бұрын
It's a good day when Jack posts. 😁😁
@kaylaoliveira2916 Жыл бұрын
Omggggg Jack I just gotta say it I just GOTTTAAAA!!! Ur BACKGROUND!!! Omg it looks so amazing!!! Seriously the effort I put in for those shelves is def shown they are beautiful❤❤
@kyral4779 Жыл бұрын
CONGRATUATIONS ON THE BOOKSHELF IT IS AMAZING!!!
@doglover2560 Жыл бұрын
I cant believe the old man and the sea was mentioned, this video reignited my memories of reading it in school..... i loved it and im definitely going to read it now, thank you jack:)
@Ida2170 Жыл бұрын
jack referring to bill furlong of small things like these as bob furlong in now two videos as he talks about his obsession over ‘small things like these’ is underrated comedy 😭😭 but fr thanks jack i read the book bc of you and i’m equally obsessed over bob furlong
@laurenschenck5355 Жыл бұрын
So proud of you Jack for reading all these books from Margot Robbie and Cillian Murray ❤
@amritasengupta5251 Жыл бұрын
Murphy
@amelialouise9089 Жыл бұрын
Not me thinking for a split sec Cillian recommended Eclipse the third twilight book 😭
@cat.733 Жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@M95-t7c Жыл бұрын
I was just listening while I was working and I was shook 😂
@Starburst5147 ай бұрын
FR 😭😂😂 and just the third book in particular, forget the other two, just the idea it's only the third book made me crack up
@SuperTech59 Жыл бұрын
Great video! And your library looks great behind you!
@alobo9937 Жыл бұрын
This was excellent!! Even though I am a huge Dune fan (let's fight!), I absolutely agree that Claire Keegan is a beautiful writer. LOVE HER!!!!!
@moonchild1627 Жыл бұрын
pure joy seeing you talk about books😭
@MaddyCaddell Жыл бұрын
SAG-AFTRA actor here! As a heads up it's only the writers that reached an agreement. us actors are still waiting for our meeting. BUT it's totally not crossing a picket line to talk about movies that have come out! promotion and marketing are considered work under acting contracts (cause it IS work) so it would only be a problem if you are a SAG actor getting paid to promote a film produced by a company under the AMPTP. i know it can all be confusing but the unions have not called for any boycotts nor asked people to not talk about projects that are coming out so you're totally in the clear! love your vids jack
@justwonder1404 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Jack would choose Hemingway over Dune expains to me why we would never be bookish friends, but I'm still here for the vibes. Truth be told, I didn't like the next installments of the Dune franchise, but I also never read more Hemingway than I absolutely had to.
@nuzhatchowdhury5385 Жыл бұрын
You have just made my week Jack, thank you.
@imperfectanimal57 Жыл бұрын
This is a friendly reminder to reread my favorite book The Master and Margarita. Thank you :)
@caramim95 Жыл бұрын
Jack trying not to be biased while he's wearing a pink jumper :)))
@klatskyn Жыл бұрын
Omg saaaaame with The Secret Seven! First books I actually read by myself when transitioning away from picture books, and it meant everything! I then read pretty much every Enid Blyton book I could get my hands on during my childhood.
@Starburst5147 ай бұрын
Cillian not only just stared in Small Things like These (whicb finally gotna distributor!) but he's so filmed an adaptation of Shy! The author Max Porter wrote the screenplay and wrote it to take place from the POV of Steve, one of the teachers at the school, so I'm interested to see how it goes!
@χαρηςσελιμης-ε8β Жыл бұрын
The ultimate novel about being friendzoned is the poor folk by dostoevsky
@KatieLabadie Жыл бұрын
obsessed w/ your background/commitment to your craft
@MSheekey Жыл бұрын
I've not done so much reading of a book about a certain city when travelling, but I've been trying to read a native author when visiting new countries
@joannarigby1989 Жыл бұрын
Great video idea. Loved the variety of books here too. I was Barbie all the way in the films…but for the books I agree with Oppenheimer!
@annie-mz9956 Жыл бұрын
Great concept! Loved the review
@darthmalt9367 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos, hoping to get more book recommendations! :)
@nojeremy077 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting so bad for Jack to review Cillian's recommendations 😌
@Ajajqiqjaa Жыл бұрын
2 posts in a day?? we are fed and nourished and fattened papa
@sharonlightfoot9921 Жыл бұрын
As a ,70s child- The Secret Seven is also the reason I still read today!! Nobody does it like Enid ❤ PS also an Aussie who came to live in London in the ‘90s. Just love your videos Jack😊
@paisley9782 Жыл бұрын
It was The Famous Five for me all the way, lol
@r0zab Жыл бұрын
Today, as I was wasting time, I realized I hadn't watched any Jack Edwards in a while and how I would be upset missing any of your main channel content. It felt nice to see your post.I really enjoyed watching it as usual. Love you❤
@alwaysgettingthere Жыл бұрын
this is such a great concept!!
@p.archmentproductions Жыл бұрын
Secret Seven was the SHIT. When I go home for Christmas, my dad and I still take out the books and sit silently reading them together for hours. It's as much a Christmas tradition of ours as doing a Harry Potter marathon. Our copies are falling apart and some pages have been munched on by termites because we got them at a street side bookstore in India, but we tape them up and keep reading. I'm 23 and the books never fail to make me happy. Enid Blyton for the win.
@celaine_7 ай бұрын
If I’m ever famous my one and only hope is that Jack reviews my book recommendations and says they are good lol
@jackiesliterarycorner Жыл бұрын
I love when you do these videos. I don't know which two but I definitely be looking at two actors.
@sunshineeee Жыл бұрын
15:25 This but about all except Emily Wilson’s translations of Homer’s work LMAO
@HeatherMascara Жыл бұрын
Love your pullover! 💖
@violetagnes Жыл бұрын
i love these so much oml
@mike-ot4ux Жыл бұрын
NOOO BUT YOU JUST REMINDED ME ABOUT SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF MY CHILDHOOD. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE SECRET SEVEN.
@yuuriontepidwater Жыл бұрын
Jack Edwards canonically hating Dune brings me so much joy, you have no idea. Everyone and their mom seems to enjoy this book and i just... don't... understand 😭😭
@itsaUSBline Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those people in the middle who enjoyed it but don't see what all the fuss is.
@johnsilver8059 Жыл бұрын
I read it for the first time as a teen when I was reading lots of science fiction. I reread it a few years ago and it is at best OK. Even within its genre, there are much, much better books.
@almondcro Жыл бұрын
Also fuck the movie too
@emmahegg Жыл бұрын
Same!!!1
@TheMikenanners Жыл бұрын
@@johnsilver8059name 3
@noura1343 Жыл бұрын
do more like theseee i enjoyed the video so much
@daisy.4682 Жыл бұрын
Stoppp I love small things like these soooo much
@franzirkus Жыл бұрын
when you said Eclipse I thought for a second Cillian Murphy was into twilight
@TheJessmitchell123 Жыл бұрын
Just spat my soup out laughing when you said “arguing about a book that is all about magical sand” hahahahah, I haven’t read Dune, but that’s definitely a sign it’s not for me 😂
@rafaelamb Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@zeppalw1030 Жыл бұрын
picking the old man and the sea over dune is such an INSANE take to me 😆 although I couldn't have expected anything else from Jack when dune is brought up. I feel the same way about Hemingway that he does for Herbert