The Messed Up Origins of Alice in Wonderland (Pt. 3) | Disney Explained - Jon Solo

[@JonSolo]

Hope you enjoy this episode, Fam! Next week’s episode will be the last one (for awhile 👀) so make sure to mark your calendars! In the meantime don’t forget to SMASH that like button! 😁

[@lollipopmuffincat]

Your videos make my day I hope your day and week will be amazing you're awesome! Get a good rest!

[@rachelb3449]

Love the Disney shirts that you've been wearing throughout this my favorites the Mickey

[@DragonWolfZenno]

This episode was incredibly delightful Jon! Looking forward to you covering the last bit of the story in the last episode. Pleaee keep up the good work!

[@seanstark4312]

hey jon, did you know the disney griffin and the mock turtle appeared in a jello ad

[@KellyBeeArtz]

Hey Jon, did you know in the Disney film, they had a scene with the mock turtle and Griffin but later took it out cuz it made the movie too long.

[@tiffanyp8847]

"And then Alice had to pop over to the burn unit because that was savage" 🤣😂🤣

[@naominuna468]

waiT bUT WHEn Is that???????

[@alisonyoung2718]

Too freaking true

[@onesunnyday5699]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@sugarcookie5610]

that was one of my favorite things he said in this video

[@sugarcookie5610]

bye the way he said alice had to pop over to the burn victomes unit not burn unit just saying not trying to be mean or anything

[@user-bx4ti6ig3i]

Alice has never really caught my attention but the way you put it makes me want to read the book.

[@heydeanie]

Did u ever read it?

[@randomperson1weekago295]

Did u ever read it?

[@pixiepalasmr6881]

I’m reading the book now, and so far it’s a real treat

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

The Mad Hatter -- *_Hatter's Gonna Hat The Competition_* Tier: 10/4

[@BorderlineBraindead]

Do you mean 10/6

[@annabellthedoll9953]

What's the difference between 10/4 and 10/6 btw?

[@heydeanie]

@@annabellthedoll9953 I think they r head sizes for hats

[@moonwalkerangel7008]

@@heydeanie Actually it was the price hats were sold 10 shillings and 6 pence.

[@heydeanie]

@@moonwalkerangel7008 Oh cool!

[@jasmidnurmi9857]

I like that the king had a bit more of a point to be there than in the Disney movie, and that the other suits are mentioned.

[@IdovShai]

Yes! thank you Jon! Why did you dislike your own videos? 0:25

[@JonSolo]

idov shai ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯

[@sarahnorrie6468]

Haha that’s hilarious. It’s nonsensical just like this story. Is that the very merry un-moral?

[@beyond-the-terror4078]

Attention whoring? Lol

[@youtubewarrior7011]

@@JonSolo it's okay I hate myself too! :D

[@annabellthedoll9953]

@@JonSolo What does that mean?

[@elhabto]

Thanks Jon! Your dissection came right in time and saved my life, I'm studying this book at school

[@penelopedanyelle0805]

I truly *adore* everything about your videos and how eloquent you are, very admirable, Jon. Proud to be a SoloFam ❤️

[@misspinkpunkykat]

When I was a kid, my mom and I got my little sister and I this story on tape to listen to on the way to the zoo. It was a condensed version of Alice In Wonderland. At the end there was a song. I forget the rest of the lyrics, but there was a verse that went "Where turtles go to school and think it's grand". At that time I was only familiar with the Disney version of Alice In Wonderland, and in this version they never talked about turtles either. But I wonder if that verse in the song was a reference to the Mock Turtle.

[@dawdlingdoddle7875]

I'm supposed to be studying for an exam yet I came here. Totally worth it

[@jae7475]

1 year late but ME TO!😂

[@EllaBonbon]

“They never executes nobody, you know.” I’m gonna use this in everyday conversation.

[@mtellez4381]

"How is a raven like a writing desk?" They're both full of quills (feathers)? 🤷‍♀️

[@kaylaandjimbryant8258]

The I'm mad, you're mad, everyone's mad bit was lifted and twisted for magenta's opening line in rocky horror.

[@thomasbirdeno]

I love these videos because they're phenomenal and, also, I have a man crush on Jon Solo. Sometimes I don't hear what he's saying because I'm lost in his well-lit eyes. It's mashugana how pretty he is.

[@JonSolo]

Lmfao “lost in his well-lit eyes”

[@TheRetroguitar]

I found your review or story, quite intriquing. I read the book, but was quite puzzled by most of the puns and peculiar verses, so thank for this essay. Been enjoying reviews so far

[@catboxvideo]

I always found it odd that a large portion of the Q o Hearts instructions to Alice are actually from the Red Queen in Through the Looking Glass - the portion about posture, curtsey, etc..

[@annachan8151]

I NEVER miss any of your new videos John.

[@donnyclarko]

I love Jon Solo videos so much to the point I can’t binge watch them because I’ll fall asleep bc Jon’s voice is so soothing to me lol it sucks 😭

[@suzyeide2320]

“You can only feel so bad for someone who’s that annoying” Hahahaha oh gosh that line is gold

[@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor]

I never felt inclined to read the book. I had enough of brain wringing after watching the cartoon as a child, but I did enjoy the part about the silly looking turtle and all the ridiculous lessons he was taught: uglification, ambition etc

[@diamondgirl698]

Thank you for this series, Jon Solo, I have enjoyed it 😄 I have always thought if I was a character from the classics, I would be the Queen of Diamonds ✨

[@cloudypine3683]

Thats a rare fandom for OCs... Awesome

[@almogwaingarden8006]

when I read this book I read it after the looking glass by mistake. I think I also stopped reading at chapter 9 for a lack of time

[@echos1135]

So I was watching this video and decided to go dig out my antique copy of Alice in Wonderland so I could kind of follow along and look up certain passages in more detail; I still had the video playing when I got it, and when I opened the book at random I just _happened_ to open it on the exact page which had the illustration that had *just* popped up in the video, at 10:32. What are the chances, eh?😱 The book was actually gifted to me when I was only four years old, but I've, um...never actually read it. I know, I know, I hear you, but I plan to amend that soon. But at least _because_ I've never actually read it and it's literally just been sitting at the bottom of my bookshelf all this fine, it's still in as perfect condition as the day I got it 25 years ago. But thanks to your Alice videos I've finally gotten that push to dig it out and *_finally_* read it😊

[@elenaaxe1101]

Love your timing 😂

[@dasunersattliche9076]

I wonder if you asked the Duchess about the Moral of a Story that purposely has no Moral, if she would say, "The Moral of that Story is that not every Story needs a Moral" (or something like that) would be ironic, paradox & at the same time Sensical

[@kingemo7806]

I'm doing a new fan fiction of Alice in wonderland and your videos is helping me with it I been watching your videos since I did a fan fiction of the little mermaid

[@cloudypine3683]

*yes* I will read it. Tell me where i can find it if you are done

[@kingemo7806]

@@cloudypine3683 this comment so old but look up king emo animations I'm not sure when the story will be uploaded it will be out soon

[@annechoi531]

I can't wait for part 4.. But I still don't want to end this series

[@willlyon7129]

I agree with Carol that he says that Children's Literature is so sensitive, compared to today's children's literature and media. How these stories are meant to teach kids life lessons of what to expect in the real world, and are water downed versions of their former selves.

[@cennethadameveson3715]

Bite in reference to mustard is its strong taste, the same with mature cheese having a "bite". So in this case the answer is true.

[@spicat16]

Yep. Just checked. I liked the last video. I have a 6mo old so sometimes things get missed. Lol. Cant wait for last episode 😊

[@Tyranix97]

The cat is so cool.

[@raeshoemaker6780]

I love all your self deprecating jokes, reminds me of me.

[@takeiciajohnson6370]

Hi Jon. There is a such thing as mustard bird.

[@hillarymcdonald9954]

My first answer to the riddle was both were related to messages

[@Rainok]

The moral of Alice In Wonderland is that not everything has to have a moral

[@hendrigomez2410]

Amo a jon solo

[@Rebellesmopeds]

cool video dude, i enjoy this show

[@foxhoundbridges4851]

I like your stuff so I subbed

[@sethwilliams4665]

The answer to the riddle is they both have Quills

[@fotinimilioti3806]

describing the story and especially the parts not included in the movie is cool. but it's even more cool when u make comments about the story e.g. about the violence in kids' stories etc

[@nicolebee1028]

Please talk about the 1999 gene wilder live action movie

[@amberpreedy8190]

There’s a movie that is almost an exact copy of the book

[@nicholasclaus9695]

It’s like the Martin short version

[@emosongsandreadalongs]

Does anybody know if the phrase "going down the rabbit hole" originated with Alice's Adventures in Wonderland? Or did it come from somewhere else?

[@mayarhashim808]

There is a movie called into the woods it shows real stories of disney movies

[@34554omg]

It that time of the year (finals)

[@tonnykwint]

flamingos are definitely birds though...

[@MrThystleblum1]

It sounds like the Mock Turtle attended American school.

[@madhatter4175]

Here we paint White roses red, each shade from a different persons head.

[@yourmother9834]

I love your channel! Im just gonna keep commenting on every video I see today in hopes that you see it ❤️

[@msadelaide5497]

Happy Unbirthday Everyone ✨🎉🎊

[@helenkrane6313]

Courtney October Happy unbirthday to you!

[@undeadno0dle340]

Yesterday was my friends birthday so i told everyone one else happy unbirthday

[@helenkrane6313]

You do realize that it’s your unbirthday too....

[@stormsnow5260]

Happy unbirthday!! Time to uncelebrate!!!!!

[@TheRealNormanBates]

To _ME?_

[@SSand4]

Actually, in Carroll's "acceptable answer", it's "nevar"...."and are 'nevar' put the wrong end in front". (the first edition to include it "corrected it" to "never", but one of Carroll's people told them "it wasn't a typo" and they changed it back in subsequent publishings.) I found one solution that said it's both an answer and a *clue* to the *true* answer. Even for Carroll "put the wrong end in front" is a rather awkward phrase.....for basically "backwards"... something which is 'nevar' (n-e-v-a-r) backwards is r-a-v-e-n....something which is not backwards is (by definition) forwards.... So...Why is a raven like a writing desk? Because a raven is nevar backwards and a writing desk is always for words.

[@Layra151301]

Haha this is great!

[@noelrobertson4968]

I thought that suitable answer was off. Amazing!

[@abstractproductionz5734]

There are unlimited answers for the question

[@BothHands1]

oh shit, that's awesome, ty!

[@margeryfranko1850]

Niiiiiiccccceeee 😁

[@araisilwenn]

"Why is a raven like a writing desk? They both need feathers to take flight." Raven, feathers for literal flight. Writing desk, a feather quill for flights of fancy.

[@purpledreamsforever3553]

I had a similar answer.

[@sugarcookie5610]

good job you solved the riddle

[@heydeanie]

That's terrific!! I've wondered that my whole life! I am terrible at riddles. They have always made me agitated... Idk why

[@nae5866]

They also both stand on sticks :))

[@rachaelknudsen8801]

Because Poe wrote on both. That's always been my answer.

[@h4nda.]

The music at the start just gives you the vibe that you're in to learn something! I really like it.

[@gachagirl2027]

Same!

[@ravensart4494]

Honestly 😫❤

[@8ballmoe]

I can tell you 1 thing that’s not messed up.... your timing I was just watching part 2 a few mins ago

[@sabrinaassanulhaq9328]

Love your profile picture

[@8ballmoe]

Sabrina Assanulhaq Thanks, I thought it was cool too

[@nothisispatrick4644]

You'll float down here alice *We all float down here....*

[@ollieeww]

No this is patrick nice patrick

[@stormsnow5260]

Lol wrong quote!

[@kiritugeorge4684]

😂😂😂😂

[@sirscribbley1822]

Pennywise, How did you get out of your sewer?

[@tultsi93]

AND YOU'LL FLOAT, TOO!

[@xicer1]

Lol bro you tried to sneak one pass me, posting this one early in the morning.

[@ResidentMilf]

Story time! I once overheard a coworker singing Painting the Roses Red, so I walked in and sang "Oh me, oh my, oh mister why are you painting the roses red?" and scared the shit out of him.

[@octobergirl5525]

I would have LOVED to see that 🤣

[@alia2ali]

That’s brilliant!

[@stormstrider1990]

Sounds like something out of the Funniest Home Videos.

[@megalisa830bright6]

@Uber Tuber Yeah! They quoted the verse wrong! XD

[@shannonshere]

"Crying is something that young children, and myself, are known to do." 😂❤

[@archonfett]

To the riddle why is a Raven like a Writing Desk? My own personal answer is they both have Quills. As for a time a bird quill was used as a pen to write with.

[@MerikBryce]

Same. I thought the riddle was supposed to be straight-forward, and logical. To get this answer, you'd have to think of the era, as well as a similarity, in terms of classification. In my opinion, legitimate riddles are lock-and-key, like puzzles. If the correct answer doesn't fit logically, then the riddle is flawed. -- not to sound pompous, or anything.

[@GrimmShadowsII]

While normally I agree the answer to a riddle should make sense, why would it in wonderland where almost nothing makes sense.

[@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor]

Wow! Great answer! Ladies and gentelmen, the award goes to... archonfett! Congratulations! You can claim your price - a free ride on the Cheshire Cat - any time, apart from months that have 30 or 31 days, never on a weekend and certainly not on a day that ends with 'y'. OK, that settles it. Enjoy the ride."

[@janetcunningham2269]

You have my respect thank you

[@avivastudios2311]

I thought that too.

[@user-es6gz3my9q]

I actually have “why is a raven like a writing desk?” Tattooed on my arm and have been asked about a million times what it means, almost every time I say I don’t know and have to tell them it’s a quote from Alice in wonderland. Makes me feel like no one has ever seen the movie or read the book.

[@antilikka]

If it makes u feel better, I would’ve got it had I seen it 😝

[@wolfzmusic9706]

I’ve seen the movie but I was really little so I don’t remember it

[@heydeanie]

I'd of gotten it lol .. most people r just lame

[@msadelaide5497]

"Why is a raven like a writing desk?" I just thought they both had R's in them...

[@ZR_HR-fz2cg]

And I thought "but wait, desk doesn't have any Rs?" :) I'm dumb sometimes

[@aquawoelfly]

The answer he put up was mispelled but i will nevar tell. ~_^

[@stormsnow5260]

They both come with inky quills. 🤔

[@RainbowEssence-c3w]

I thought it was because they both have feathers (e.g. raven's have feathers and a desk has a quill pen.)

[@OneTrueBelmont]

So that's where that riddle is from? Man, I thought it started with the Last Unicorn. The things I learn.

[@SergioVazquezEsq]

Lewis Carroll’s answer to the riddle about a raven being like a writing desk, spelled the word “never” as “nevar”, which is raven spelled backwards. Thus, his answer makes more sense.

[@chriscameron4706]

Well, the "elite's" do like spelling & generally living backwards compared to us "average person's".

[@JonSolo]

ehh, still wouldn't say it makes more sense

[@tenhirankei]

"Wrote the Raven - Nevarmore!"

[@jaerivus]

I can't take credit, but a top commenter here points out that with this spelling ("nevar"), the riddle can be appropriately answered thusly: "Because a raven is nevar backwards, and a writing desk is always for words."

[@heydeanie]

@@jaerivus omg yes now it makes sence

[@mimzyscorner2544]

I was gonna save this mini-series for binging but couldn't help myself, love the modern referencing and comparisons

[@randomperson1weekago295]

Mini series! Not anymore!

[@MichelleWilliamsPewDiePie]

The way mock turtle told his story reminds me of Laura Lee's apology video

[@SparrowTeaDragon]

“Then Alice had to go over to the burn victims unit because that was savage” omg haha 😂

[@annaizzaguerrero1762]

Good morning John solo..hope you are doing well.. I hit that smash button..love your video

[@aidanschram9652]

Smash button ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@jongroskin729]

I love how you just ignore the fact that Carol was tripping each and every one of the balls when he wrote this stuff. Like you're trying to apply logic to a drug fueled LSD adventure.

[@Christiana6791]

I’m drinking tea rn that on the tag says “say what you mean, mean what you say” as the little inspirational quote. I nearly spit it out when you said that line because the synchronicity was too weird 👀

[@hatorihanso9481]

Just uploaded and already 3 thumbs down? Must be a good one! Cant wait to watch

[@AbridgedPwned]

I like how you gave yourself a dislike at 0:23

[@stormsnow5260]

Sherlock!!! Oh my goodness! Of course you noticed it!!

[@brotato2167]

Lol

[@naominuna468]

This whole thing is oddly entertaining

[@Capyceee]

I noticed it too and was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else saw lol

[@lovelyfacistol5442]

When I was a child I was so scared when I watch Alice in Wonderland cuz like wonderland is nonsense🙄😂

[@PixiePrincess501]

Oh, so THAT'S why the Mock Turtle was a cow/turtle hybrid! I knew there was something odd about that illustration, but didn't think much of it, considering the book it's a part of.

[@unkmegu]

0:24 why did he dislike his own video... Am I the only one that sees it or am I just stupid/insane

[@emosongsandreadalongs]

". . . with the March Hare and the Mad Hatter asking Alice questions that don't make sense and then interrupting her whenever she tries to speak." Sounds like how my high school students behave in class haha

[@abyrose3369]

Omg yas new video 😍😍😍😍 Alice In Wonderland 😲😲😲😲

[@tskmaster3837]

"In an earlier rendition, the mallets were ostriches instead of flamingos which would have been considerably harder to play with so I get why he changed it." There's just so delightfully insane about this statement, it's sound, logical and yet still completely bonkers. "Flamingo" is the a funnier word, the ostrich is the funnier bird. It's a win either way.

[@apassiveaggressivesadist7740]

I was actually drinking tea when I was watching this

[@sugarcoin72]

“Then Alice has to pop over to the burnt unit bc that was savage” I lost it 😂😂😂😂the way he said it so causally 😂😭

[@drishtisanger3899]

“It was long after Alice had enough disrespect from these two degenerates...those two freaks” haha I rewinded it a few times because it was hilarious to hear you say it so casually.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Hey, what's the explanation about that "10/6" at the Hatter's hat?

[@doommagic]

It's the price of the hat. 10 shillings and a sixpence. The Mad Hatter is mentioned in the book to be a hat salesman and the hat he wears is actually for sale itself. So it's kinda a form of advertising, I guess you could say?

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

@@doommagic That's one messed up advertising, if your right. No wonder nobody buys from Mad Hatter.

[@doommagic]

@@kirbymarchbarcena Well, everyone is mad in Wonderland. Are you really surprised by that?

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

@@doommagic Being mad didn't answer the question.

[@doommagic]

@@kirbymarchbarcena No, but England at the time did.

[@dear_totheheart]

Your analytical series are so wonderful and insightful, so professional and enjoyable too! Fantastic work Jon, really excited for your future work!

[@preciouskendrick83]

I definitely agree to this comment! His lines spoken so casually make it funnier, as well as inside jokes. It makes this more intriguing :D

[@ScrabbleDiva]

Best answer I've seen to the raven riddle: They are both "nevar" facing backward.

[@TripleMoonGoddessTarot]

Question: Why is a Raven like a writing desk? Answer: They both have legs! 😂😂😂😂

[@j-arson]

what's the difference between a Raven and a writing desk? They both have Rs

[@saleimaromain11]

Gene wilders mock turtle was the best

[@moonwalkerangel7008]

I thought I was alone thinking that. Gene Wilder was amazing as the Mock Turtle.

[@SafetySpooon]

Oh, I have the book from which the croquet picture is taken at 8:24!! It's a double sided book with Alice on one side, & Peter Pan on the other

[@gormogonc]

😍😍 I love Alice in Wonderland.

[@zarennaangel1198]

Jon, Please continue and do Alice through the looking glass. I love these.

[@falsettosisgay_1161]

I love the message on your SquareSpace: _ruining childhoods, one story at a time_ *MESSED UP ORIGINS* It is funny and true at the same time

[@myheartisthyheart]

The reason why I am so obsessed with Alice In Wonderland is that it's such a bizarre story that even if I read it for whole my life, I would still fail to truly understand it, I mean, I know the story, but you know, I still haven't at this age and I probably won't, ever. It's so unique & fascinating, just like my dreams, so vivid, weird & interesting that's impossible to explain or I'll sound stupid if I did.

[@mars4977]

1:36 skip sqaurespace

[@philgriggs5931]

Yes! Love your videos, you explain everything very well and it's fun to listen to old stories that I thought I knew. Do jungle book next

[@JonSolo]

Thank you! Already did Jungle Book though :)

[@deppheadsunited2924]

who else knew what "mad as a hatter" meant from TheOdd1sOut?

[@emmcc]

The 1999 version of Alice in Wonderland with Tina Majorino is probably the closet version of the movie to Lewis Carroll's books.

[@jcurses]

The first time I read “Alice in Wonderland” I remember reading that retort and thinking “Ohh, burn.” Good to know it was shared.

[@sr212787]

I love how you're so well spoken while telling the stories, but throw in 'degenerate' and how she needs to go to the burn unit, so funny!

[@TheMimiSard]

Mock Turtle Soup actually sounds like it would be pretty good. It's basically beef soup.

[@ZPHOENIX27]

How can anyone NOT hit the like button for Job's videos? Easy as pie and Jon has a way with words!

[@ToyInsanity]

Amazing video! Thanks