Laowhy86 on China's Uprising the News Isn't Covering | JHS Ep. 763

[@christinedowd1820]

I was in FuXingMen on June 4th at about 4AM in 1989. People rose up against the CCP en masse, students, workers, and the 38th army. The 38th army refused to kill the students so they brought in the 27th army from Yunnan to kill the students, which they did. The next day, nobody spoke one word about it. The PSB went to houses to pick up dissidents, then everything went silent in just one day. God bless you Laowhy! Keep fighting !

[@christinedowd1820]

Matt, appreciate your coverage of North Korea too. Would love to talk to you guys about your trip.

[@lovesees4320]

I stand with All the Peoples of the Earth But with Not One of the governments✊🌏

[@Waverlyduli]

​​@@lovesees4320 Please don't obfuscate away criticism of the CCP to universals in syatements like 'All governments are bad'. In doing that you imply equivalence between the nature and transgressions of authoritarian governments and all other forms of governance, including Democracy. That is plainly an inane and factually incorrect statement. You need to reflect on that and stop universalising in this context because obfuscating away to universals like that is a standard propaganda technique of both pro-Putin and pro Ping-Mao propagandists because they wish to depoliticise the public and create in them a sense of helplessness so they can continue in their status as autocrats. (Please read Christine Dowd's post among the comments here).

[@godswittness69]

Fuck those entities and everything they stand for...

[@JohnSmith-le5oe]

Chinese people are very happy they did this. To the peoole of China, the first task of a government is to defend the nation.

[@AsusMemopad-us5lk]

For the record... LaoWhy86 is the one who broke the news, after Covid started, that China's cellphone service carriers suddenly were reporting that they now had a few million less customers. He is also the one who around that same time reported on the Wuhan Institute of Virology website's data from the previous year, on who worked there and what areas of expertise they were hiring for. Awesome first-source research.

[@claudeyaz]

They also were some of the first to talk about the Chinese website about the Wuhan lab being taken down. Also about the lab hiding its "public database of viruses." He and Serpentza also exposed the Uighur Muslim stuff..especially how foreigners are taken to an amusement park in Xinjiang. They exposed how the same "local old man," is in all the videos of shills. Plus..exposed the fake Uighur tiktok accounts with pretty girls.. And also the showing of how the Uighur families dancing and entertaining foreign guests." Literally are surrounded by minders. Since laowhy86 and Serpentza and their "the China show," IS NOT paid for by the falun gong...They can avoid the bias and CCP cant call them bias. The two dudes had hope for china..it waa going well.. But the blueprint after Xi rise? Really sad for Chinese people. I recomend the book by Robert Spalding as well "STEALTH WAR:HOW CHINA TOOK OVER WHILE AMERICAS ELITES SLEPT." he was the military attache for USA in China for a few years...and was kicked from DC for being honest about China. Check it out

[@patriciapalmer4215]

First, very early on, was the Wuhan lab nurse warning, accident in detail, immediately after the very 1st wet market INFERENCE nothing else, myself and hundreds of millions saw it, disappeared from all global media in short order, no record of her or employment. She sacrificed everything to do it 🙏as did the doctor later.

[@valnpaulvanorden]

Let's not reveal our sources. Kills people.

[@GunaApandi]

He didn’t break the new about Covid but so happen he take this as an opportunity to smear and bad mouth China. We all know the truth now that the Covid-19 virus was discovered way back in the vicinity of Fort Detrick in Maryland, USA, and later in Milan, Italy.

[@JohnSmith-le5oe]

Ridiculous.

[@Alex_Plante]

From what I've gathered from people who grew up in a totalitarian states, such as the Soviet Union, is that around the age of 14 or 15, their parents sit them down somewhere very private where no neighbours can hear them, and, in hushed tones, give them "The Talk". They explain to them what the real political situation is, what their real family history is, about their uncles who disappeared 30 years ago and no-one ever heard about them, why their grandfather, although very intelligent and talented, only worked as a menial labourer all their life, why they were never promoted at work, and why it is necessary to "pass" as a "good communist" conformist and how to do it so as to succeed in life.

[@JordanHarbingerShow]

so tragic

[@zasmirko100]

It is the best case scenario. The more common is - just not to remember or know the past, not to care about "ideas" - "freedom", "justice" wtf those things are? - just to live your life and make as much "guanxi" (amongst CCP persons) and money as you can, never thinking about restrictions or oppression. I lived 32 years in USSR under CP power and saw how people could be "molded". Every "rebel for freedom" meets not congratulations but mistrust, fear and even hostility from other people. THIS is sad reality.

[@JohnSmith-le5oe]

Russia? Sure. Not China.

[@NeonTrapperKeeper]

I am a regular viewer of the China Show/serpentza/Laowhy. First Jordan Harbinger show I’ve watched. Loved it. This interview is packed with great info/insight. I’m a subscriber of this channel now.

[@JordanHarbingerShow]

welcome! even more in the audio feed for The Jordan Harbinger Show

[@volusiasorange]

86 a grifting dishonest troll. he used to make good content but then got turfed out under really dubious and unclear circumstances and now just has a vendetta and makes complete troll clickbait. sure, china's got loads of problems to be sure, but this guy doesn't even live here anymore and doesn't know what the hell is actually going on. just because someone lived in china for a few years doesn't mean they know what the hell is happening. dude is a complete troll at this point, and ZA is even worse

[@chinabill379]

Thank you for caring about China

[@58frascatti]

Excellent! Never met laowhy88 but I lived In Shenzhen when he and Winston were there, plus I lived in Beijing, Lanzhou, and Harbin as well. Believe everything he tells you, including how absolutely wonderful Chinese people can be and how suppressed they really are! Re protests being common but only local, I noted that very early. A huge protest in Macau that I witnessed, was completely unknown in Shenzhen thanks to selective media coverage by CCP. It was incomprehensible to me that my expat buddies could be totally unaware of the protests a short distance away from our base in Shenzhen. Same with Hong Kong…big protest at Star Ferry terminal in HK got NO coverage back in Shenzhen, a 15 minute ferry ride away! Plus, the one Chinese national with us, upon seeing the HK protest, begged us not to look or ask questions saying “bad people! Come away! Don’t look at it!” The scales came away from my political eyes very quickly, but sadly, the 30-35 Canadian teachers who were my colleagues, to this day deny those things took place. Lesson learned: teachers are idiots, sheep, and Canadian education is, and has been for 4 decades, left propaganda. Keep up the good work!

[@sealion6444]

The people are soso. Foreigners love them because of their special foreign privileges. If you were a Chinese then you should know and feel how they treat each other like shit. For sincere awesome equal treatment then people should go to Taiwan

[@salva_75]

You lost ALL legitimacy with what you said with your unhinged last sentence. So THAT'S what you were really trying to say.

[@fannyalbi9040]

what a dishonest cursed cxxt!

[@AvengerII]

@@salva_75 Gamerboy, YOU betrayed your ignorance and inability to see past your bellybutton with YOUR commentary! Take off your gamerboy earbuds and pay attention to what's going on around you. You might actually learn things if you stay off Reddit and Twitter for a while!

[@stefanyuwono1909]

Canada looks like it's ahead in the left wing authoritarian race with britain, australia and new zealand. Remember the canadian truckers and SNP corruption case? Turdeau is quite possibly the biggest mistake made by canadian voters.

[@aaronmaguire2867]

i was living in China when covid was going down. i was in a semi rural area, Lianyungang, Ganyu in the Jiangsu province. i lived there for a good 7 years and how this place changed when covid hit was beyond. every housing complex and street was either blocked off by barb wire fences or brick walls were built. in some areas the literal sidewalk was ripped up in order to make a conrete rubble block off. i was locked in my apartment for 9 months straight, i lived alone which was hard enough but i remember there was a 2 week period where the internet went down and noone could fix the internet in the area because obviously lockdown. food was scarce, i had to rely on my boss's husband who worked in the local government to occasionly bring me some rations to last a week or 2. eventually it turned into me sharing what i had with the other 6 families i had in my apartment building, which wasnt much each but it was the best i could do. sadly that left to one night when one of the people broke into my flat and stole all the food that was there. up until covid me and my neighbours had a great relationship but during this and after the robbery, i was just a white outsider and noone cared i had no food anymore. my boss eventually pulled some strings and i was moved into an empty hotel by myself. horrid time, glad im back in the UK. i love and miss the people in Ganyu and dont blame them for the hell of the last year but i cant see myself moving back anytime soon.

[@midgetydeath]

Chinese culture has been incredibly selfish for thousands of years. Relationships are commonly based entirely on whether or not someone is useful to you. Once you are no longer a useful tool to someone, they drop you or backstab you and, for some reason, seem genuinely unable to understand why this is wrong.

[@GunaApandi]

You shld be thankful that you are not in America or England. Otherwise, you likely be dead or maybe another one of the death statistic. FYI, China handle the pandemic very well, with such huge population, they still manage to control it extremely well with very low death rate compare with millions of death suffered in the West. People like you perhaps shouldn’t even return to China but stay put in England.

[@johnlacey3857]

Absolutely horrible, glad you’re home safe now

[@andrewwong2605]

Dont

[@adairjanney7109]

You better learn that about being white, imagine how tribal America is going to be if civil society ever breaks down

[@mistertamura6190]

Thank you for this. It’s so disturbing to hear about what’s happening to the thousands of protesters right now.

[@therocinante3443]

It's shocking that this channel doesn't have at LEAST triple the subs.

[@Paulo37580]

A Brazilian subscriber here. Thanks for posting it. Take care.

[@joetheperformer]

I love spreading this kind of knowledge. It’s hard to find a candid take on China nowadays for obvious reasons. But the voices of the Chinese people deserve to be heard!

[@volusiasorange]

86 is not Chinese and doesn't represent the Chinese people. He doesn't even live in China anymore and is mostly full of shit. The situation is incredibly complicated but Matt here knows that he doesn't have to represent it as such, all he has to do is shit on it and he'll get the western clicks, so that's what he does.

[@joetheperformer]

@@volusiasorange no, most Chinese people are content with living under an authoritarian communist regime so long as it’s economically stable. Just wait until the inevitable economic collapse comes bearing down, I have faith the Chinese people will do what’s necessary.

[@volusiasorange]

@@joetheperformer You are the exact type of person that 86 is pandering to. "The inevitable economic collapse" ... dude i hate to burst your bubble but that's not going to happen

[@joetheperformer]

@@volusiasorange I hate to burst your bubble, but it’s going to happen. China’s strategy is to imitate the Western economic model. Sadly, theirs is nothing without Western funding. It’s basically a tumor. It lacks organic complexity. It needs its host to keep it fed. All the while, the CCP continues to commit atrocities with the excuse of “the West did it 200 years ago, why not us?” bullshit.

[@volusiasorange]

@@joetheperformer the human rights misdeeds of the ccp unfortunately don't have real economic repercussions in any way shape or form, so it's a canard as per this discussion and has nothing to do with it. China is "imitating the Western model"? First of all, it's not, and secondly, it's funny that you believe in the West but then say China is imitating it but will imminently collapse...? It's stupid wishful doublethink. It seems like you think you know a lot about China but don't at all...

[@LemmingAttack]

There's my dude, Laowhy! Love his takes and his content. Hearing the opinions of people who haven't lived in China and speak no Chinese is the worst. Laowhy is awesome.

[@LemmingAttack]

@Fabel Bagel thanks for taking a paragraph to say literally nothing of value bud

[@Jad3444]

@Fabel Bagel damn bro, tell me you're insecure about yourself without telling me you're extremely insecure about yourself

[@GunaApandi]

Just don’t know why people like this who hated so much about China, everyday badmouth China and preoccupied what is going on in China. The Chinese don’t give a hoot what is happening in your country so, why spend so much time demonizing them? If not trying to influence those who never been to China, what else?

[@v.edits0]

Wow this was so informative! Matthew's analysis about China's future was spot on. 🤯

[@jameslabs1]

great guest - Gold

[@xxchuangtzu6186]

Regarding Tienanmen, please keep in mind that there were uprisings in many large Chinese cities during the Tienanmen protests; I remember a contemporary graphic from CNN covering this. The violence and personal catastrophe arising from this likely exceed our estimates.

[@mremington8]

Jordan has really grown on me over the last year, Dude, your doing a great job, please stay with it- producing great meaningful content - im just seriously wondering how how only has 99 likes? this seems dodgy to me.

[@JordanHarbingerShow]

I have no idea. Thankfully, youtube is less than 1% of my audience, so I basically ignore it. The audio podcast has more content, and a much larger audience. I also worry about the China stuff getting me shadowbanned, if that's even a real thing, which I think it is.

[@markb8468]

@@JordanHarbingerShow I would suspect that this sort of content doesn't pop up on Chinese KZbin users.

[@JordanHarbingerShow]

@@markb8468 that is certain. youtube is blocked in China though IIRC, because it is a google product.

[@markb8468]

@@JordanHarbingerShow I was unaware that Google products were blocked in China. Do you think they have influence over the algorithm for suggested videos elsewhere?

[@mremington8]

@@JordanHarbingerShow I definitely think it is, Anecdotally- i've seen this a few times too in the past where ive liked content on ADV - came back to finish watching it later and the likes have actually gone down. I suspect your YT Audience is much much larger than your led to believe.

[@williss1192]

I love it when these 2 converse

[@lawrencemartin24]

Been watching Laoway86 and Serpentenza since their motorcycle diaries. About 6 years.

[@lawrencemartin24]

WuMao, You just earned your 50 cents. Go enjoy a fresh bowl of bat soup.

[@LinasVepstas]

@Fabel Bagel Their unqualified opinions is *exactly* what made them golden treasures. Two goofballs, bouncing around randomly, a bit lost, and just observing and looking and experiencing, it was charming and wonderful. No script, no plans, no glitzy production, just some random tourists. This is what makes life glorious and wonderful and a thrill to live! Oh, and they did NOT have a hateful agenda. It was clear that they loved China. The joy can be heard in every episode. One does not eat food that one hates.

[@joshuabray37]

@fabelbagel6257 And who would you list as a qualified opinion? I'll wait for your response (I will be waiting for a LONG time). Random tourists? He owned a business in China, lived there for about 10 years, is fluent in Chinese, and has traveled extensively there. So, I wouldn't call him a "random tourist". Sounds like you are jealous to be honest.

[@jeffreygilbert4967]

Peter Zeihan, Ian Bremmer and now Laowhy--Jordan, you hit the trifecta! I watch each of these guys independently on my own time, but thanks for these podcasts. It would be interesting to hear from a Chinese dissident about what's going on over there. Also, Jordan, what are your own opinions on China?

[@lora5638]

Excellent Interview.

[@Azoth011235]

I have a picture of T-square I took 20 years ago. The most striking thing about it: the cement they used to patch the bullet holes is a lighter color. If you know what happened there, you can still see it.

[@patriciapalmer4215]

⛩️ Fan of Milk since the earliest China motorcycle trip with Winston - terrific both ! Great channel Jordan ⚡ Thanks !

[@johncheresna]

Good stuff.

[@wheresmyeyebrow1608]

Finally it’s out!

[@gordonliu3972]

You gotta UNDERSTAND China!!!!!

[@JordanHarbingerShow]

"CODDON!"

[@stuh4932]

Love the China Show and Laowhy

[@barbarapiesse3343]

My first tyme ever to watch your show, I've seen Laowhy plenty. Very interesting & informative. I've been following all shows having to do with what's going on in China & my Heart goes out to all the Brave Citizens, sadly they don't know their out come. They're so brainwashed bt the CCP. PRAYERS TO CHINESE PEOPLE 🙏 ❤️‍🩹⚘️

[@ModChannel1]

Laowhy's explanation about the Xinjang fire was so detailed. 🤓

[@IREMEMBERGAMING]

Cmilk is a good friend and spot on

[@oonaamookhao]

If ONLY mainstream media do this kind of interview with guests like LaoWhy’s objective in-depth knowledge of the subject matter. Citizen Journalism is here to stay and thriving! 🙏🙏🙏

[@volusiasorange]

86 is not objective in any way shape or form. He's a grifting troll with a vendetta that makes clickbait content for idiot westerners that know nothing about China who just want to hear that China is dying or dead, which is bullshit

[@oonaamookhao]

@@volusiasorange You have very strong emotion, yet said nothing good about the CCP. Trust me, 86 is providing the voice for real Chinese people who are muzzled by the CCP. It just happens that westerners reap the benefit from having access to these critical facts because they’re being shared on the free world’s platform. I have an advice for all wumaos and shills, defect and be the voice for real, hardworking Chinese people.

[@QuixEnd]

Dang I love you both. I'll admit, I'm a total simp for Matt, always excited to see him on the show.

[@williamswenson5315]

Good to see you have a first-hand expert on the show again. Not merely a talking head, but someone who lived in China, speaks Mandarin and is married to a Chinese woman.

[@tommontreal4821]

Great podcast. Keep up the good work 👍

[@AlanLamb11]

Nice, this channel has matured so much over the years. Was funny to see Laowhy pop up on Jordan's podcast and be only the 3rd guest's name I actually recognized.

[@noneyerbusiness203]

Great conversation!

[@oxoglobalturkiye]

OMG this was so educational! Jordan, will you be inviting him again?

[@Psalm1101]

Great show need more guys thanks

[@kriptocum1469]

Absolutely unbelievable... worth the watch!

[@sdfgsdfgsdf2877]

Highly recommend watching this! Thanks, Jordan

[@williambarr2698]

I want to thank you for sharing this information. I have ask myself several times what is really happening in China. I know what we are being told is different then reality my personal indicator has been the cost of gas. The price is influenced by supply and demand. The price going down has told me that China is buying less and less. I wish every living person could watch this for two reasons. One the overshadowing issues with Communism, that it's not utopia. Two we must be concerned for the people of China and avoid Chinese products until the people have true liberty.

[@north40lady98]

I'm more concerned about this becoming embedded in the US as we are slowly seeing happen currently, that's what I am concerned about.

[@sylvainleseur1072]

Thanks for sharing

[@jeremydennis6988]

These corporations and politicians are just weak bottom-line gutless it makes me so angry🤬🤬🤬😡

[@skiingfast1]

Merry Christmas!!!

[@stevenjohns-savage7024]

Thank you for this info 😮. It's amazing to hear what happens in the different part of the world

[@donalddotson9127]

It will be the younger generation that will have to choose their own future government system!!!! Does the western countries want to pass on the ability to have open, civilized, social platforms debating????????? Or a system that will weld their houses doors shut!!!!! And tell them that they'll have to take an untested mandated drug, vaccine, untested petri dish food products, etcetera!!!!!!!!! Once they start declaring marshall law!!!!! Your freedom is over forever!!!!!! THESE TYPES OF OPEN SOCIAL DIALOGUE DEBATING, OR DIFFERING OPINIONS, OR DEBATABLE INFORMATION, SHOWS US WHAT OUR ANCESTORS WENT THROUGH!!!! THAT'S WHY THEY CHOSE THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OPEN DEBATING SYSTEM!!!! AS A SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT FOR THEIR OWN BABIES FUTURE CHANCES TO KEEP POWER IN CHECK THROUGH THE 3 BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT CHECKS AND BALANCES!!!! OUR ANCESTORS CHOSE A SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT SO THAT WE COULD AT LEAST TRY TO KEEP OUR OWN LIBERTY, FREEDOMS, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS !!!!!! THEY WERE VERY, VERY WISE!!!!!!

[@tedklampett1737]

yep but will the children of those in power be the ones to be the future government. who wants to end a monopoly ?

[@Enoo-Wynn]

This the first time I've watched your channel. I love the in depth look. The CCP are going to end up with a lot of mentally ill people after what they've put them through.

[@YoursUntruly]

It’s already happened a century ago

[@rsabuzer8367]

I had never heard of the Bank protests in Hunan, any sources to back that up?

[@texasforever7887]

There was a lot of videos of the protest on KZbin when they happened months ago. If I remember right it was this last summer or spring. The bank refused people access to their accounts because they had no funds to pay them. About a week later it was reported that two bank managers stole the funds I believe.

[@LinasVepstas]

It's not hard to find. Search around.

[@Orcalein7367]

Jordan , Is your YETI mug a meme that refers to the "Free Tibet" protest ?

[@sharqii4461]

Highly recommend watching this!

[@haachamachama7]

I learned about Tank Man in grade 8, but maybe i just wasn't paying attention or maybe they didn't teach it very well lol, because my impression was "Wow, he stood up to the tanks and the protests were successful as a result! What a brave man!" lol

[@TheJBerg]

Same. That's what I got as well. Usually it's just the single frame shown.

[@darrenneven8533]

Bro...🥰🤗

[@hantafpubg23]

This was so interesting! His knowledge about the CCP's dissonance tactic was so insightful.

[@texasforever7887]

He lived there for about 10 years.

[@janicewolk6492]

I studied Russia as a specialty in college. I went there several times and talked to many people back in 1992. I was told by a Soviet general that what really screwed the system was computers of course, but also access to copy machines. I had an acquaintance from a company in Ekaterinburg, a manufacturing hub, whom I sponsored for a visit in the US. Months later I received a e-mail from that city saying "Thanks". That was all. One word. I told my son to watch that video of that brave man in China and remember him as a hero for freedom. My kid was a history major.

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

It's funny how the closer and friendlier you are with America the more wars and problems you have

[@hermandejong4309]

I've seen tank-man only as a video... not a photograph always a moving tank trying to get past the student and the student stepping closer to the tank

[@flashcar60]

One reason for the Chinese famine was the reluctance of officials under Mao to report below-average farm yields. They reported bumper crops, so Mao declared that people could eat their fill. Then the food ran out. Officials compounded the problem by under-reporting cases of starvation.

[@valienterf]

This is what they want world wide.

[@Wonybenimkari]

Lovin' this!

[@walterjohnson6357]

Great discussion and lack of coverage from media speaks volumes about CCP influence outside of China.

[@aidene5513]

We don't even know tankmans name.... He is a nameless hero and in this case China actually won. To say he might be free somewhere is only to not have to admit that we should have done way more.

[@spicymang0o]

It's would actually be very interesting to have witnessed the very moment that all the chinese people felt how they began to repeat history with the CCP but basically a modern version with Xi Maybe very overwhelming with emotions... its crazy how our world leaders simply keep making such ridiculous mistakes over and over, while the people of the world fall for the same lies over and over.... all for the sake of convenience. Imagine that one very moment when a certain amount of humans around the world realize that any phone you ever owned , implicates you indirectly participating in the slave economy, that specific amount of people needed to make a change.

[@grahamelliott9506]

@44:11 a big element in this (china's economic rise) is that somebody else provided global maritime security so that the world could trade with china, import from china and china *could* open up to the global market that somebody is the only remaining, standing significant navy after WW2 - whom didn't have war on its own land and was already configured to do wartime production the USA

[@AndyJarman]

To this day the UK gives the world's second largest economy $50billion in humanitarian aid, and pays to import and deliver its products door to door. Products that employ slave labour to under cut western workers wages. Our governments are either utterly cynical or utterly naive.

[@grahamelliott9506]

@@AndyJarman i wish, the reality is that if you think foreign policy is conducted on basis of morality and ethics, you're the naive one foreign policy is always utilitarian in nature the morality and ethics angle is just how they sell policies to the common folks - in reality at that scale it doesn't matter... because in foreign policy and diplomacy, there are no 'good people' and 'bad people' its just our people and those people

[@grahamelliott9506]

@@22andresmiguel the united states provided the world order that allowed world trade and a global market system which is when china's 'rise' happened - not before before the US led world order, china was constantly preyed upon by external forces and existed in disunity, in a pre-industrial state and multiple hemisphere spanning empires, most trailing back to entities in europe, competed, raided each other, and occasionally outright fought... this is what in large part gave us two world wars you should look into what happened after WW2 and the Bretton Woods agreement, it makes everything we consider 'modern' possible, and has allowed china and the global south to develop. Its why the US is the world's premier superpower, and why when the US issues trade sanctions most of the global entities that matter decide its best to follow suit. Its why china's 'rise' happened at all.

[@haroldmorgan7381]

Loved the motorchycle trips in China years ago !!

[@orphanmanchu9963]

so many things are wrong right now. i'm a nurse in the US but my friends that do this job in China are all testing positive, and even though they are symptomatic they must go to work. So basically if you step foot in a hospital in china right now, it's almost guaranteed all of the hospital workers have covid and are forced to keep going to work, "as long as their body permits them" (aka you can still stand up). So we wonder why there is an explosion of covid everywhere , i mean the level of stupidity is shocking but also the fact so many people are still praising the government for handling Covid. i mean, it's like shocking and depressing on so many levels.

[@DARKthor_]

Absolutely fascinating! Laowhy86's analysis about China's dystopian QR code system was unbelievable. 🤔

[@LinasVepstas]

It's believable. There are plenty of others writing and posting about it.

[@TheGariego]

Internet hosts need to learn to not talk over their guests.

[@apage1717]

Omg Laowhy is aging so fast since moved back to NY then to CA.

[@cuzcohusky3533]

I beeen watching you guys for years and I To Trvaler to China 🇨🇳 long time ago and sad what’s happening now

[@S3eauchemin]

Hey hey hey, the CCP. it ain’t for you and me!

[@tedklampett1737]

you gotsa turn this into a song or a rap bro :)

[@GenX1964]

Thumbs Up and can we make it flow. HEY HEY - THE CCP. IT AIN'T FOR YOU. IT AIN'T FOR ME.

[@drirene57]

The WEF dreams of having this type of control over the the people!

[@OptLab]

Coming from The China show to comment.

[@jeromebarry1741]

What would the government do if they received in the mail hundreds of millions of letters of gratitude and praise on A4 paper?

[@kaltkalt2083]

The laws people pass when they know their laws won’t apply to them.

[@记住天安门广场]

To all the Chinese that wish to be a free and democratic society. I stand with and support you. The CCP is evil but the Chinese people are wonderful and deserve so much more.

[@jameslawrence3666]

Peter Zaihan has an excellent saying about people talking and sharing - "stop people going on long walks together"!! Check his videos for predictions on China over the last few years and more recently

[@danidanzinski6763]

What’s his channel

[@jameslawrence3666]

@Fabel Bagel I VERY much doubt that!! since finding PZ less than a year ago I have taken the time to see what he has been arguing for the previous 10 years so NO.... he has been proven REMARKABLY accurate..... China seems to be following his allotted path now, what more could you ask for??

[@caroldanson5476]

I have seen those pictures and the people seem to be following the guys in white, so what is going on?

[@danedao]

Welcome to your future America

[@melektaus2906]

Does the fact that the protests were so coordinated suggest that another nation state was assisting the students? That certainly happened in Ukraine, and despite Chinas stranglehold on information I wouldn’t completely rule out foreign support

[@LinasVepstas]

In one of the protest videos, you can hear the police saying "Go home! There is nothing here! Do not listen to the foreign agitators!" and you can hear someone else shout back: "Who are these foreign agitators? Are they Marx and Engels?"

[@doreeneclose6295]

The suppression in China also infests the mind and creativity. Until China lifts these thought controls, they will never rise above great imitaters. They steal anything not locked down, then make it cheaper. Its sad, because these are hard working people that could soar if they weren't so suppressed. I had a 10th grade Chinese exchange student stay with us for awhile. I was very surprised at how closed off and fearful she was to discuss many topics.

[@chadwells7562]

Meanwhile America is running as fast as it can to emulate the Chinese model. Without authoritarian repression there will be no China, authoritarianism is how they’ve always kept the nation together going back to the very first emperor Qin Shi Huang.

[@stormevans6897]

It's funny, Laowhy86 has the most asian haircut I've ever seen on a white person, he's like a real life anime character.

[@janicewolk6492]

What was totally lacking in Russia was and is organizations that interface and connect the people and the government. United Way, Heart Association, Susan Komen for breast cancer, etc. I was there with a prominent hospital group trying to enhance birthing circumstances and there was no correlative Russian group. Organized groups were a threat.

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

what? you wanted to circumsize our babies and expected more support? 😂

[@redkellyre6568]

Update your Intel .China to lift all restrictions on covid 19 nation wide January 8th 2023

[@yt091]

But, it's all very quiet now after the protest

[@benl5432]

The cognitive dissonance of these two is mind blowing. They causally make jokes about right wing lunatics, as they call them, while describing in excruciating detail what happens when leftists take absolute power. How can anybody take them seriously?

[@casey8228]

Yep.

[@60-second-HACKS]

what's happened to thst guy's face? He's looking more and more dodgy as the years go by. It was fascinating to see how his reportage changed when he moved back to the US. He'll shill for anyone.

[@wadewilliston5424]

I don't know about Covid lockdowns where you couldn't go hiking. I just drove from home to trail and went hiking. No one else out there - peace and quiet. Of course this was in Florida and had the governor's ok as long as you were keeping to yourself. Beautiful and quiet in the forest.

[@intel3631]

I got an email for Acronis made in Singapore is this ridiculous.

[@GunaApandi]

I too was in China, I thank god for the good measure taken by CCP government. Not only they contained the pandemic but deal with it very effectively, saving millions of lives unlike in the West.

[@lilnoni671]

@guna Considering the lab in China created the virus and the ccp covered it up, how kind of them to lock people in apartments and starve them! Honesty could have prevented many of the deaths you speak of!

[@sanityshorror]

50¢ has been deposited in your bank account by CCP 👏👏👏

[@RN1441]

@46:00 Yeah, Russia's been out of missiles, tanks, bombs, artillery shells, trucks, troops, men and planes since March. I just wish reality would catch up and the power would come back on.

[@GenX1964]

16:04 I Like To Imagine The Blank A4 Piece Of Paper Says "Take Down The CCP"

[@eyesfortruth9348]

This seems maybe a small thing but it sort of attracts my attention. It's the refering to people as amounts compared to numbers of people. It seems to connote people as indiscrete substance rather than discrete individuals, contempting their value as human beings.

[@melancholycollie1466]

My country is currently being sold to the CCP so I'm VERY concerned

[@Smile-qy7yk]

never knew that China had such a terrible vaccination rate...

[@Mari-py9ne]

The thumbnail picture is not really flattering lol

[@gordonliu3972]

That edit when C-Milk started to mention what happened to protesters in Guangzhou... !? ... Let the man speak. WTF

[@edisonone]

Hit the board Laiwei60! Hit the board Laiwei60!!!

[@ManuelPinner]

The Bold Eagle just got some Dragon for Dinner!🤣🤣🤣🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@superturkle]

incredible podcast, kudos the both of you. loads of important info in this conversation, i learned a lot. the sheer level of deceit and corruption in the ccp overwhelms and confounds me. ive been following laowhy86 and serpentza for about 2 years now and whoo boy is there a lot to learn. other ppl need to know this as well, keep up the good work everyone.

[@lettucesalad3560]

CCP 2020; We defeated the virus, let's have a pool party! Covid 2022: Where's the party now, beeches

[@McClarinJ]

Yes, the prospect of the PLA joining the protests was one of two reasons I thought the CCP might have decided against a public bloodbath. The other was that it wants to retake Taiwan, preferably by popular vote of its citizens, who recently (reportedly) polled slightly in favor of merging with the mainland. A public bloodbath would have reversed any such sentiment.

[@orphanmanchu9963]

lol, since the beginning of public polling since the end of martial law in Taiwan in 1991, there has never been more than 5-10% of the public that has expressed any wish to join with/be annexed by China. Let me guess, the "recently polled" was done by China Daily or some other news in mainland china polling itself

[@McClarinJ]

@@orphanmanchu9963 Could be. I only know that I saw a reference to it, which I found a bit surprising.

[@orphanmanchu9963]

@@McClarinJ perhaps some are sort of fudging the terminology. There are some people that subscribe to the old ideology that Taiwan is the last remaining part of "real China", or something to that effect. Also, Taiwan is a democratic society, which means freedom of the press, which also means China itself can spread dis information in Taiwan unfortunately (or it seems like Russia as of late, is also jumping in on this bandwagon of promoting mis information about Taiwan). So things can be confusing if one isn't looking at the source. But polling data is quite clear that support for Taiwan as separate from China, in all kinds of ways, has only grown substantially over time (to the extent we see well above 50%, even 60%, of the public claiming to be "Taiwanese-only" in identity, as opposed to be both Taiwanese and Chinese, or Chinese-only). There was already strong anti-China sentiment in Taiwan, but chronologically the imposition of the National Security Law over Hong Kong in 2020 was the nail in the coffin. I think practically that meant any shimmering hope of using "One Country Two Systems" was totally dead with respect to applying it to Taiwan (not that most Taiwanese people would have given up their independence for One Country Two Systems, but the HK National Security Law broke any remaining illusions about peaceful co-existence between the PRC and Taiwan)

[@McClarinJ]

@@orphanmanchu9963 Thanks for filling me in.

[@liamkurovec881]

Why is your voice so deep in this video Matt 😂😂

[@goobfilmcast4239]

The nature of China has not changed in thousands of years.....China still wants to focus inward. Modern tech has made that possible down to the individual. They now benefit from Global Trade but China will do what it needs to to survive and remain heavily centralized, politically. Their AI is benefiting immensely from the amount of "tracking data" it has to process....however sinister

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Unfortunately, it may be the case that a state with the geography of China can't be a democracy and so the only way to democratize China is to break China up into five separate countries. Although doing that would require some rather unpleasant costs, but it's not unreasonable for someone to suggest that cost may be worth it.

[@patrickt49]

​@@FinalLugiaGuardian They have never in their history been a democracy. Even their Emperors were authoritarian. People ruling China with a tyrannical fist is nothing new. And it will continue.

[@valnpaulvanorden]

Welding people into their apts is sicko.

[@colonel1066]

China is done demographically anyway.