The 'Evil' Driver Facing Camera on my Truck | Yes or No?

[@jenningsmills5398]

Camera facing out is for protecting the driver and company. Camera facing in is for protecting the company by throwing driver under the bus.

[@TheGeorgenc40]

Trucking companies tell you that having a bad relationship with someone at home can be an emotional driving distraction. The driver facing cameras are like having a bad distance relationship with someone who is judging your every move for reasons to fire you and is a complete driving distraction.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@curtis7599]

It really is a mental distraction.

[@DrivingSue]

It's a lack of trust. I would like to see my dispatchers face when he lies to me

[@michaelduffey5518]

It depends on who is interpreting the recording. Saved me … New tractor was not set up properly . Two radars and camera were not set properly. Truck launched itself into a red light . I had to STOMP on the brakes to prevent an accident. Roll stock shifted . Recording proofed it was the truck . A I is not ready for prime time .

[@Tooter666]

Me an other drivers have talked about it. I've described it has driving with a loaded gun pointed at your head that you never know when it will go off

[@bluewater454]

CRST just started putting driver facing cameras in their trucks. We were told that the cameras would only record us in the case of an “event”. I thought an “event” would be an accident or hard breaking incident or what not. Wrong. It tracks eye movement, body movement, and reports to corporate any time you are doing anything except looking straight ahead and driving. I just gave them notice that our working relationship is soon coming to an end. I will not be micromanaged like that. Been in the industry for over 20 years. Way too many employment options out there for me to deal with that.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@sophiasocal68]

That's exactly what they want, replace you with an inexperienced driver who thinks driver facing cameras are the norm and pay them next to nothing.

[@brianr797]

This dang thing caught me rubbing one off once and getting a horn job!!! How embarrassing they saw everything!!!

[@whatislifebuttheenjoymento3405]

20 years of experience. If i had that much experience i would quit first day they put on that camera.

[@nealamesbury7953]

Amen

[@marcgreenberg1271]

I drove for an armored trucking company for 17 years. When the cameras were first installed we were told no one would be monertering them. I can’t tell you how many drivers were fired because of those camera. Stay safe my friend.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😮😮😮😮😮

[@TherealYumpho3107]

Just started at loomis two months ago and ready to put my two weeks in..don’t hire me to drive then treat me like a child smh.

[@marcgreenberg1271]

@@TherealYumpho3107 I worked for Loomis in Las Vegas from 1999 until I retired in 2016. The only reason I was able to last that long was because I was on the fed run. We started at 11:00 PM and drove to the fed in LA. Spent about an hour at the bank and then back to Vegas. We were basically left alone. Good luck to you.

[@reconalpha7]

Its a massive invasion of personal privacy. Its none of their business. The threat of the camera is the invasion of privacy, not just the physical placement of it.

[@homesteadhomie7855]

No it's not! It's your work space/office. It's not private. Your private area is behind the curtains. Hence, no cameras. How hard is that to understand?

[@homesteadhomie7855]

@@orthodoxphronesis when you are off duty, you're supposed to be in the sleeper. Not in a seat up front. You can actually get a ticket for sitting up front while off duty. So the front is just your work space. That camera is there to protect the company. And it can also save your ass.

[@cash6879]

​@@orthodoxphronesisThink that sounds spot on

[@cash6879]

You have privacy behind the curtain

[@johnmcclain7072]

I have no problem with forward facing cameras. I like them a lot actually, however I will not drive a truck with an inward facing camera. That's just me. Truck it safe guys 😎

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@jl909-nr5vx]

Kevin is why there are driver facing cameras. Companies love b!cthe$ like kev!

[@davidbarnett6531]

I live in my truck! Screw driver facing cameras!

[@LuckyRob19]

I quit Crete 8 years ago because they wanted to put one of those front facing cameras in My truck. I promise if that dispatcher wanted to look in on you he could. Best decision I ever made was leaving Crete . I work for a small mom and pop make way more money Take off anytime I want and I have the owners personal cell number. I have a regular ole out facing dashcam and I'm cool with that but I will not be watched or listened too while I drive.

[@jl909-nr5vx]

There will always be people like Kevin...and that is why companies like Crete put cameras in trucks to watch people like Kevin.

[@joegiaquinto]

First off, I am not a professional truck driver. I did however work in the trucking industry for several years, got to know many of the titans who built up these trucking companies into large fleets who started with one truck. I have a great respect for everyone that can amazingly navigate these big rigs across our highways safely year after year. I haven't seen comments to this point but I think it's worth mentioning: Inward facing cameras I feel could be just as much a distraction for a driver who feels they are being surveilled all the tiime. In our neighborhood we have lots of red light cameras and I see people doing stupid things so that they don't make the cameras flash and record a violation. I also think that computers and cameras and recording data creates a situation where, as many have mentioned here, the companies feel they have to CYA every possible risk (where often unexpected things happen but nothing bad results from it) and drivers have to now be superhuman perfect without one screw-up to mar their driving record. Just way too much scrutiny. You cannot have a world of perfection and zero mistakes. Just my two cents, good buddies. Keep on trucking!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks for making that excellent point!!! Appreciate it!

[@nealamesbury7953]

We are promoting the illusion of safety,and litigation mitigation, driver be damned. (Driver here ) oh ,make sure to smile when u hear your psp score

[@germanium1872]

I have my own forward facing camera. I really like having proof in case something happens. Who would tolerate this invasion of privacy? What a horrible company to work for. You know how they get away with this? Because the drivers let them get away with it. If all the drivers said F U, I'm not driving with a camera pointing at me, they wouldn't have a choice but to remove it.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Yes, forward facing cameras are a very good safety measure. As for inward facing, Crete decides on the time frame of putting them in trucks, depending on a new driver's level of experience and driving record. A driver can always choose to not work for them if that is a deal breaker. But we decided it was worth having it up for two months in exchange for all the benefits reaped by working for Crete. So far we are very happy, as Kevin's income has gone up by 50%.

[@Dobbs3]

We don’t all have them in the truck at Crete. They’re used as a training and/or coaching tool. 5k power units and maybe 1-200 of them have cameras at a given time.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@Dobbs3 Thanks for your comment!

[@Dobbs3]

@@TheJoyofTrucking stay safe out there. I’m heading to Kansas City later. Trying to make my way to North Platte to do Walmart.

[@pollypurree1834]

I quit a company instantly over it

[@dangregg3189]

This is a great video Kevin. I have been watching you for a long time. I would like to tell you what I see in you as a driver.. Now this is my opinion. When I watch your videos you remind me of the drivers in the 50's and 60's. They were Very respectful they knew their job and did it as Safe as possible They were always very professional. They did their job with pride.. They were courteous and always friendly And from what I've seen watching you. Even though you have only been driving a short time. Are a Professional driver in every sense of the word. I wish we had many many many more like you. You and Tanja Truly are The joy in Trucking. Stay safe. Keep the rubber side down. Keep on Trucking.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Awwwww! Thank you sooooooo much!!! Really a great compliment!!! Appreciate that you shared it here!!!

[@cherokeeman7140]

Hi guys, I worked for a company that told me the same things about the camera's. The 3rd party company has to show their worth to the company so they would pick us apart, day in and day out! I didn't mind the out facing cameras and even the rear cameras but the one facing me started giving me anxiety issues after we figured out they were doing! watching every move i made. i don't even like people watching me sneeze. much less if i have a scratch somewhere! They would get me even if I forgot to look in my mirrors every 8 seconds. The police are bad enough, but were nothing compared to having to deal with that.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

That sounds terrible!!! Was it a ‘permanent’ camera??

[@cherokeeman7140]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Yes

[@TRANSPORTKING1988]

It's monitoring 24/7 don't be fooled by what your company people tell you, it's a sure way to throw a driver under the bus and keep the company free of liability in case of an accident.... If you quit tomorrow, you would be replaced the next day, they wouldn't miss a beat... I've been driving for 34 years and I just recently joined ACT Trucking and I have to say I hate the camera and it is causing me anxiety, I'm completely taken out of my normal routine of trucking and put into a prison-like situation being monitored 24/7, I hate to be a job Hopper but I'm not sure how long I can operate under these circumstances

[@driver3605]

The driver facing camera is just another case of Big Brother watching us. The companies can feed us all the BS they want to, but we know better. Every now and then I will flip off (give the finger) to the camera just in case.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@edb2078]

ask an attorney about inward face cam's see what they will tell you. no benefit to the driver zero

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Well...the benefit in this case is being able to get a job that pays 50% more. ;-))

[@paulcrowley3556]

Cameras on trucks bad idea.even if the wreck is not your fault safety will say oh you should have done this and that to avoid wreck.its your fault no matter what. 1984 George orwell,big brother is here NOW !

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@brandoncomer6492]

If the camera was just for traffic incidents they wouldn't have it on a 60 day timer. That doesn't make sense. It's clearly being used as a monitoring device to check new driver activity. No problems with a dash cam, but if I'm going to be living in my truck for weeks and months on end, you're not putting a camera facing me 24/7. That's a bridge too far. Truckers already deal with enough bullshit without being recorded 24/7. We're employees, not inmates. Furthermore the only purpose of a driver facing camera is to condemn you. Unlike a dash cam it will never absolve you of anything, it can only be used to incriminate.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. You make some very good points.

[@vendingdudes]

Pay me an extra ten cents a mile per camera. Put up all the cameras you want

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@JASONHJEFFERSON]

i get paid by the hour and have one at gemini motor transport but i make enough money to deal with it but i do haul fuel which is really dangerous

[@RoutierNordAmericain]

Required driver facing camera for US carriers: Huge Deal Breaker for me. If this is a thing with most US carriers, along with, being paid only distance pay, & no Cab-over truck option for me to choose to drive, then, I'm staying here in Central Europe. I was a U.S. trucker from 1998 to late 2012. I'm OK with cameras facing outward, though.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

There’s a lot of differences. Definitely…

[@kevinscott6393]

Thats what I laugh at.......you know how far 4 seconds us in these trucks. Well, while you are trying to maintain the 4 second rule you have cars continuously cutting in front if you.....if you were to keep on following the 4 second rule you would be going backwards‼️

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

LOL!!!! Going backwards doesn't pay cpm!! LOL!!

[@donniehalcomb1120]

The company I drive for has the double sided cameras. It is the samsara system and we now have four that have been updated to a A.I monitoring system. We have several drivers who say they are job hunting because of the way this system works. It is only as good as the managers that control it and leaves lots of favoritism open. I never really had an issue until the update. We can no longer even take a drink of water without the system barking and telling the driver he is distracted. We was allowed to use a Bluetooth headset but no longer. Talking on the headset is distracted driving. The A.I isn’t a fair system

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow!!! That is way too extreme!!!! We’d be looking for a few job as well! Thanks for sharing!

[@luckywilson9540]

After reading some of y'all comments it is wild how some people feel cameras should be on all companies. As respectful as i can be some people are spineless if you want to be micromanaged then please get out of trucking or just don't work in trucking. This job was meant to be free and to be enjoyed alot of people are losing their jobs and messing up their Dac report for minor things

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

10-4 Rubber Duck! 😉😃🤗

[@marlonizaguirre6625]

Wow time fly by 60 days already with crete it looks like 2-3 weeks congratulations keep doing the safe work you doing.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

LOL! Real time and travel vlogs are generally not the same. The travel vlogs take a long time to edit and catch up. The Kevin Vlogs are usually more real time. Good catch! Thanks for paying attention!! ;-))

[@scottparks3381]

I get all that "doing your job" but us as Americans have rights. Every chance big brother gets to bend us over we just smile and take it. If all of us drivers got together and said we arent going to tolerate, then maybe we could avoid things like this. But no, we smile and say we'll glady take another sir. This is why im getting out of trucking. If they dont trust me, then dont hire me.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

There’s lots of companies that don’t use them. Sorry you are leaving trucking. There’s lots of other jobs where ‘big brother’ is watching. Or even public roads. Privacy is eroding.

[@michaelrains2268]

I have my own dashboard mounted cameras, just feel a bit more comfortable . Don't 100% trust company cameras, there probably okay but that's just me.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍👍👍

[@philmoore5579]

You have a good attitude about your job.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks!!! Best way to enjoy life…bring the right attitude. 😊😉

[@juniortrucker3389]

It’s nice to see and hear someone with a good head on his shoulders.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks!!! 😃😁

[@juniortrucker3389]

No problem. Just reading some of the comments people love to hate these cameras. I drive for a company that has driver facing cameras and guess what? I’m still there. When the truck is off for longer than 5 minutes, the camera is off as the green light is no longer illuminated. Just to make sure I cover it with electrical tape. People who truly have issues with these cameras are usually the ones who are doing something that they aren’t supposed to be doing. If you spent millions of dollars on your equipment you’d want to make sure you aren’t spending more fixing it because someone isn’t respecting your equipment. We seriously live in a world where cameras are everywhere. Like who cares really? Kind of reminds me of the same people who cover license plate numbers on pictures when they are selling their car as if it has personal information attached to it. 😂😂

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@juniortrucker3389 Yes. We agree. We prefer not to have it, but we understand it. And there are lots of jobs where there are cameras on you. It gets tricky because of the ‘living in the truck’ part. But we also just taped it up at night. Just have to remember to take that tape off again. 😆😆😆

[@juniortrucker3389]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Yeah true that. It’s on my pre trip list. 😂

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@juniortrucker3389 👍😆😆😆

[@jujujones2501]

I got one of those stuff in my truck I put black tape over it. I agreed with forward-facing cameras I hate inward cameras I don't trust them. Before I go to a company I always ask that questions if they said it's facing both ways they get a dial tone in their ear lol. Further, everyone uses a cell phone while driving even safety does that too lol so Idk what's the big deal I can see that if you are sleeping that's a big no-no.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Your company hasn’t said anything about the tape?

[@jujujones2501]

@@TheJoyofTrucking No

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@jujujones2501 lol!!! That’s great!!!

[@wolfsquared]

My last accident was in Wyoming. Construction zone with 4 miles of warnings that left lane ends. Truck tried to pass me an 5 his lane ended, and instead of hitting barrels ran me into shoulder. But I had to serve into his trailer to avoid a 15ft drop into a under pass before I could brake and get behind. Camera showed him 100% at fault and saved me. I always have a personal camera now, even if company has one too.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😳😳😳 Glad you were ok. Yes! We love the Garmin gps/dashcam we got.

[@jesuschristislord9150]

Matthew 6:19-21 NKJV 🔴 "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; [20] but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. [21] For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also..

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks! 🙏

[@dave.lawrence.3894]

Camera are okay, shouldn't be facing the driver, they can tell if driver tried to prevent a accident..... stay safe..... drive in a caution mode, stay alert , please...

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@duaneulman9915]

If they want safety no more pay by the mile !!! Time for pay by the hour like all the rest of the working people.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@1973sonofodin]

I can tell you 100% that SOME companies are monitoring your phone calls etc. via the cameras. I worked for a hot shot company that installed forward and rear facing cameras in every single truck that ran under their authority and we are all owner operators. All the dispatchers have access to them and the video pops up when they open your driver number on the board (at least it did where I was at). I saw a driver get called it once during the Covid panic over having his mask off when he left HIS truck. Most of these guys are in their personally owned pickups too and they forbid drivers from disconnecting them on off time or vacations. They are monitoring what and where drivers go on off time and abusing the cameras. I don't see how it is even legal but this is what happens when you allow everyone in the company access to watch the cameras.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😳😳😳Thanks for your detailed comment! That’s definitely Orwellian! Keeping it in during private use of private vehicle…NOT cool!!!

[@gregorylyon1004]

My brother has been a truck driver for over 25 years. One accident in all that time. No speeding or overloaded tickets ever. And even his truck today has a camera in it right now. These companies are getting a huge insurance discount for using cameras no matter your experience

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Crete only does it for some drivers temporarily.

[@serg3123]

We got a watch you bro.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@garybollrud8968]

Boy you opened a can of worms with this one. When I started out with Millis Transfer after going through their school, driver facing cameras were mandatory first year, then optional. I concur with that policy. I dont need to be watched or recorded. Front facing absolutely.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow! A year! That's a long time.

[@jeanclaudebonillo1326]

Good point in today's world we need all the info on record .

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@mikekuhn214]

Outward facing camera yes Inward facing camera No

[@cotjocky466]

Cameras can save you in court if you are not at fault. They are damning if you are “possibly” at fault and that 15-20 second blip doesn’t always show the whole picture. And at some trucking companies they are a very good harassment tool for ever single minor infraction. I understand a company wanting a forward facing camera to cover themselves in a lawsuit, but most drivers with any experience, especially those that drove for many years with no one arm chair quarterbacking their driving abilities through cameras will tolerate camera harassment. They’ll straight up go somewhere else. I would say company harassment about how you drive and going home when they want to is the number one reason drivers look to lease or be an O/O. Most don’t want to become a big carrier with other drivers. They just want to bring home decent money and be left alone.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

🤔🤔🤔Thanks for your comment!!!

[@sophiasocal68]

Your comment is precisely the reason I own both tractor and trailer myself.

[@aedryk]

Only forward facing cameras can help a driver. The driver facing camera can ONLY hurt the driver.

[@cotjocky466]

@@aedryk A inward facing camera can prove you were not on your phone, texting, watching KZbin, asleep at the wheel, distracted, etc but it can also show these things. It can damn you or exonerate you from those type of accusations. The reality is, that a significant portion of accidents are caused due to the things I mentioned above and inward facing cameras will rat you out. Outside of those facts, most large companies are using them to harass drivers attention and driving. No driver is 100% attentive at all times of every day and it’s annoying to be harassed about it. Anyone that can be aware of everything going on around them 100% of the time, day in day out without a second of distraction is Superman or a liar.

[@aedryk]

@@cotjocky466 if you are accused of being on your phone then the accuser has to prove it. The facts of an incident are all that is needed and can be ascertained by the outward video (lane ownership, speed, right of way etc)

[@jimemmerling8706]

Tell them hell no in no uncertain terms

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

We said yes to the 60 days. It was worth it! We are very happy at Crete.

[@cflo4671]

Planning on returning thanks for the up date

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@jamesdixon7644]

Good video Kevin thanks for the info about the camera. Stay safe out there

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😁🥰

[@gumbydamit4161]

Their was an accident on 95 by the Florida/ Georgia line drive killed 4 people injured about 7 other, I believe. He lied and said some one cut hime off, cameras caught him dozing off, so ya I can understand why companies half to CYA. Just do the right thing you are a professional driver right?

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@hunterchao197]

A forward camera would also show that someone did not cut him off. I agree with cameras but a driver facing camera is so the company can shed liability in the case of an accident. You are innocent until proven guilty.

[@Cabover58]

That camera will burn you someday. Lawyers will freeze frame with your eyes closed while blinking or drinking coffee or changing radio channel.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@Estoooopid]

Those lytx cameras come with 256gb of storage they record a lot more than 10 seconds.

[@boblabelle6704]

Managers or dispatchers that monitor these lytx cameras have a "live view" option . the camera itself records constantly but never uploads until there is an event , i.e going around a turn faster than 15 mph or hard braking. If you work for a company that uses lytx drive cam which is what this guy has , and they tell you they can not watch you while you drive , that is a straight up lie . Either be constantly monitored and recorded while at work for an OTR company , or switch to a daycab local service and just be monitored while you're in their truck. Most companies have both inward and outward facing cameras and the newest ones have AI which communicate with the PCM and hit the brakes if you get too close to a vehicle in front of you that's not maintaining the same speed as you are going. These are mostly by Samsara and are constantly rating your driving habits and reporting back to the company , which can be good or bad .

[@SMOKINJOE2898]

I have a forward facing camera and that’s all that i’ll have in any truck that i drive, i’m 54 and I don’t need any babysitter, instead of the 60 day or 90 day camera, if they can’t go by my clean and spotless driving history and dac record then they don’t need my talents.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks for your comment!

[@jl909-nr5vx]

You are naive Kev...if you have a driver facing camera...you are being recorded and monitored 24/7. If Crete is now getting rid of the driver facing cameras...what does that say about the success of the driver facing cameras?! It was a mistake for them to use them...that is what it says Kev! You're welcome, glad to explain that to you and make that clear!

[@dn1084]

Exactly right 100%

[@aleksv6961]

Just loosing freedom because of safety. Nothing worry about.

[@zachd8779]

They didn't put one in my truck in January this year when I started but I had just under 700,000 safety miles and 3 safe driving awards from Werner.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

That’s great!!! Yes, Crete decides on each driver individually. Many don’t get the camera.

[@amdelux1]

A I Cyber Satan cameras are a deal breaker, don’t subject yourself to being micromanaged like a sucker.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@ilyaas-mn]

Can’t have camera facing me. Is no no. Can’t have truck slower than 72mph

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

LOL!!! Sure there are companies for you out there too! ;-)))

[@billwheeler5782]

A instructor from Penske told me if they see u yawn to many times they will send u for sleep apnea test I said oh thanks and didn't take the job he said he learned to yawn out his nose lol

[@dwrjr27]

You guys are going to get so much extra money from the driver referrals you are going to get from this channel, it's genius man. Crete is about the best company you could hope to drive for.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Glad to hear you have a positive impression of Crete. So far we are amazed how many people have only good things to say about them. Yes. We like the fact that they have a referral bonus. A lot of people decided to drive for Werner because of our channel. We never got one penny for that. This time we are glad if we get a bonus as a result of someone going with Crete because of our channel. But most important is that we truly think it will be a good and rewarding move for a lot of drivers. We only ever recommend things that we believe in. And so far we are very happy with Crete and the 50% increase in Kevin's earnings! So we will definitely spread the word, just because we like helping people. And getting remuneration will certainly be welcomed, but is not the motivation. We like keeping our conscience and karma clean. :-))

[@danstafford6536]

Driver facing cameras will never work in the favor of the driver... they use cloud technology for the recordings to review and analyze... they will fire a lot of high-risk truck drivers!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Probably true.

[@wilE6764]

I'm fine with a forward facing camera but I'm camera shy so no..what I can't stand is the other safety bs..beepers and buzzers and the truck braking on its own..now that is bs!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

But so nice and musical! 😂😆😂🤣🤩

[@markdornblut8391]

I just now put on my application you as my referral.. I'm looking for at least 2800 to 3000 plus miles a week. We'll see.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you so much! We really appreciate that! Kevin has lots of weeks where he does 3,000 plus miles. Be sure to communicate well with your asset manager and turn down unproductive loads that don’t use your time well. It has been a bit slower recently, but looking at the last year we are very happy. There will be a one year review video soon. Again, thank you for using our referral code! It’s a great way to support our channel. Welcome to Crete! Hope we get to meet you!

[@johnwolf1475]

WHY WOULD ANY COMPANY AGRE TO INCRIMINATE ITS DRIVERS? ITS A 5TH AMENDMENT VIOLATION AND OTHERS

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@jamescarter6676]

The problem is, no you can't garuntee what they are doing!!

[@indo3052]

What you failed to realize is the camera system creates a profile on you so let's say you speed two times a day in an area and then you get calls from your company and that profile gets shared with other companies in a database

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

That would suck. Yes indeed.

[@cash6879]

Not true

[@chaz4471]

Hubbys compant said if you don’t sign paperwork saying u agree to driver facing cameras, you’re terminated

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow! That’s not cool if it’s something they implemented after he was already working there. ☹️

[@Chewbacca2000]

You've got to read 1984 man by George Orwell!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Good book! Yes.

[@Sigmalennycareers]

Wrong! The cameras even trigger on false readings and your driver manager reports it still. The cameras are garbage

[@JJJJ-hp9oz]

Nope. No cameras. Ever. In any direction. Drive for small companies and you don't have to put up with that bullshit. And you make more money, go home when you want and stay home as long as you want. I have no idea why anyone drives for these big companies.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Big and small companies have pros and cons. With smaller companies you also take risks. Finding the good one is definitely key! One of our recent priorities was re-locating to Florida and wanting a home base in Deland while still doing OTR. We do actually like the forward facing camera as a way to protect the driver. We understand the use of inward facing, but as you heard in the video, will have it removed when that is possible. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@mctransportation9831]

They can listen to your private conversations. If you pick your nose, they could put video of it on the internet.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@Nebo888]

They cannot post any of your images if you do not consent to being used in mass media promotions or advertisements. The company I drove for gives you a consent sheet. If you don’t read it carefully you’ll sign away your right not to be put on the internet.

[@dave-eb7vk]

Yeah been driving 20 years this month. Been in crst day cab for the past 4. They put in cameras a few months ago. Like it's been said, that camera has the ability to report your every move. Take a hand off the steering wheel to grab something it reports you. It's constantly going off. It dings me for all kinds of things when I'm in facilities that are just normal daily occurences. Now safety has some discretion on what to give you points on. But yeah. Crst wants robots at the wheel. I just drive and if they don't want me they can fire me. But these cameras, the way they use them is crappy. I agree with if there's an incident or accident review the video. But they have multiple people that do not much else than judge me from 5 hours away.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

You’re right. That does not sound good! We are glad this was just temporary. Sorry CRST has made it permanent. Come on over to Crete! 😉😆

[@MrNastytrucker44]

I just don't understand why any of you drivers would want to drive for any mega carrier at all short of just getting your license. Small fleets are the way to go.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Everyone has different priorities. 😃

[@devoywilliams3956]

what small fleets hire with only 1 year experience, most require 2.

[@jeepcj7909]

Experience only reason plus small guys only hire someone in click like Masonic lodge

[@dannytucker1394]

This is all the pretext for driverless trucks. They need to catch us screwing up behind the wheel. Just look at all the technology on that truck. There's only just a couple of components away from making a driver less.

[@HiltsyAdventure]

I think that is very smart!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

:-)))

[@XGiveMeLibertyX]

I already have a garmin camera that iv had for 8 years. Don’t need one of theirs and id be gone in a minute if they put one in

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Sounds like you have a lot of years experience, so they might not even want to put one in your truck. Remember, Kevin only has one year experience. Happier to have a camera than have to go out with a trainer. ;-))

[@larryparmer9886]

I wouldn't drive for a company with in facing cameras.

[@JASONHJEFFERSON]

i have a lytx at gemini but i make enough money i can handle it plus i dont sleep in my truck ive never had anything said to me since ive had it

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Glad to hear that! Sounds like it's going well for you.

[@gregorsamsa1364]

If you want a driver facing camera you can use your own

[@jenxu2]

my company has those inward facing camera. it's supposed to be for our protection. we have these forward and outward facing. I'm not sure how I feel about the driver facing camera.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

We definitely like the forward facing cameras for protection. Not a big fan of inward facing, but understand why companies put them in.

[@wolfsquared]

They took mine out before I got truck. I only have the new blind spot forward facing one. I have 25 years experience and no accidents last 5 years. I still waiting for my call from last week. Slow traffic and car passed and cut into my front gap while braking. Both me and trucks auto brakes activated and triggered camera. Be safe. Ps Garmin camera is very good.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

That’s a lot of safe driving miles!!! If they can see what happened maybe they won’t bother calling you. What do you mean by ‘blind spot forward facing’? Does it project blind spot into a screen?

[@wolfsquared]

@@TheJoyofTrucking it's a giant black box in the middle of windshield, creates big blind spot, sometimes you can't see what's coming down on ramps.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@wolfsquared Ah yes. Ok, thanks for explaining. We agree.

[@wherewegofromhere5195]

U cant keep 4 sec apart there always someone going to jump in front of u ..then you keep backing off you be driving backwards😊

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

🤔🤔🤔

[@m.miller2374]

Do you watch your plumber when you call him? Or your lawyer?

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

I’d watch my plumber. But in person. Lol! 😆😆😆

[@jonblablabla1014]

I just passed my permit test... congrats to me! 🥳

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! That's great news!!! Thanks for sharing it here!! We wish you all the best on the next step!!!! Let us know!!!

[@jonblablabla1014]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Thank you 🤓👍

[@nascar427]

You better have an accident instead of re hydrating yourself. You will get written up or fired if you go to reach for your water bottle while driving. So I will crash and say because I was heat exhausted and I couldn't hydrate and drink my water.

[@curtis7599]

I do not know if I should go "on doody" or not before driving.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

You can go on doody whenever you like. Just don’t doo doo your 👖.

[@ROCKOCTANE]

Thats it drinking the cool aid.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Yes…all the way to the bank. Don’t mind 60 days. The pay off has been worth it.

[@richtiffiny]

Hi! new subscriber here.. has Crete moved to forward facing cameras only or are they still using driver facing cameras for new hires??? Im with Werner currently but im really wanting to move to a better company.

[@TherealYumpho3107]

Don’t be a typical rookie. And get down on your knees for the corporate

[@MrSilverandlead]

I like the forward facing camera but not the one on me. But 100k a year 5 days a week and home every day Watch me pick my nose idc

[@JASONHJEFFERSON]

i make more than that home everyday m-f hauling fuel i have the big brother system

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

LOL!! They should pay you extra for getting to watch you do that!! LOL!!!!! We agree. We are not fans of inward facing. But for the increase in pay, we are willing to do it. Especially because it's only 60 days anyway.

[@cash6879]

Damm..where do you work? Lol

[@brilwiljeff]

the camera is another step on the road to robot drivers taking our jobs

[@ohhnooo7759]

Will be a cold day in hell if i work for a company watching me like big brother

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

If it’s not permanent and leads to great pay…worth it to us.

[@benefactr1840]

Saw vid of another driver, forget the company, but they seemed to have the same camera but they did put a sticker over the forward facing one. Think maybe he noted if something happens then they can just remove the sticker if they need it to operate.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Hmmm??? If the sticker was on the forward facing camera and there is an incident, then it will be too late to record. I think forward facing is more important than inward facing, and less 'invasion of privacy' so the choice to cover forward facing is very interesting.

[@benefactr1840]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Meant to say inward facing the one looking at you driving.

[@pointnIaugh]

Driver facing cameras do nothing more than get safety guys beat up. A safety guy at my job harassed a driver for something and the driver broke the guys jaw and knocked him out cold near the unloading station. They found him an hour later. The driver of course was arrested and charged with a felony. He should have just quit.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮Terrible!!!!!!!

[@backyardcatpop3617]

Theres alot of harassment and bullying goes on in trucking.

[@wherewegofromhere5195]

U have a email i want to come there but i. Called 3 different rec got 3 different answers on pay an area to run what is the true pay

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Hi there! Our email is in the description. Call Crete and ask for Cassidy. She’s great and honest! We think OTR 21 days out is now starting at 60cpm. But depends what account you’re interested in. They do vary. Good luck!

[@virginiaroy3551]

Great video as always, just remember if your going to pick your nose or walk around naked cover up the camera, lol sorry couldn't resist lol

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

LOL!! If they see us naked they'll probably decide to remove those cameras quicker....LOL!!!

[@ginnyroy241]

Lmao 🤣

[@Mywhtjp]

I come prepared with my own dashcam.. :P

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍👍👍😃

[@MatthewCavalieri]

That's your home when your off duty . Totally unacceptable for a stranger to put a camera in your home . That camera leads to nothing but problems. Truckers all need to stick together on this. Just say no to jobs with driver facing cameras . Be safe out there driver good luck with everything.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks Matthew. It’s a controversial subject, that’s for sure.

[@MatthewCavalieri]

That's for sure . I've already had multiple issues with the cameras , as I suspected I would . It's unfortunate what they are doing to this career it was truly the last frontier where a guy could be proud about what he did but like everything else they've managed to ruin it with all the bs . Self driving trucks are on the way and these big corporations will get what they truly want mindless robots that work around the clock for pennies on the dollar .

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@MatthewCavalieri 😳☹️☹️☹️

[@texasborntrucker666]

So 2 things, 1. i used you ref. Code at crete. 2. Those cameras Record constantly I know this because at the concrete company I used to work for they had those same brand same type cameras in their mixer trucks and the guy that was in charge of them showed me that they record constantly because that’s just the type of camera that it is and yes he showed me with multiple drivers at the time he logged into their camera feed and was watching them drive and I saw this with my own two eyes so I do not trust those cameras especially the ones crete uses because they are the exact same

[@kebertxela941]

Exactly,the whole 10 second thing is just the alert that safety/dispatch gets alerted to for a review,if they need more footage it will be there.

[@JASONHJEFFERSON]

it uses ai to determine events also so it is always watching 👀

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Hey there!!! First of all…Thank You!!! We really appreciate that you used our code!!!! And how exciting you are coming over. I think we might see a few Werner drivers make that switch. The mikes and money for OTR are just so much better!!! Second…crazy about the camera story. We know they have to record constantly, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to get the video from just before an event. Didn’t know someone can look at them all. Hmmmm?!? Either way…we are fine with it for 2 months because of what it got us…a much better pay check. 😃 And thirdly….great job on your channel! You are putting up a lot of content and continually improving! That’s great! And…your going to make Artemis a star! 😃😃😃 Can’t wait to meet you both in person!!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@garrytownson7552]

The one good thing the forward camera records are the " asses" that cut in front of you closely and then " brake check" you, you end up hitting them accusing you of being at fault, like the jerk from Crete eluded to when in fact there was no way in hell you could brake in time. Obviously the Crete guy is not very aware of how many incidents of brake checking occur, to not only trucks.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

🚙🚛and 🚙🚙 Yup…

[@Tropicalfrooploops]

Depends on your relationship with the company. If the company has your best interest in mind, and doesn’t use it as a tool to F you over, then it’s good. In today’s world, companies try to find any reason to do what’s in their best interest screw your over. Micro analyze your driving habits….fire you and withhold severance pay…Keep you on edge to enforce their power over you

[@dougwalk8034]

monday morning armchair quarterbacks monitoring an always unpredictable scenario and criticizing/correcting you, no thanks !!!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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[@WokeYtube]

After 33years of driving and swalowing a lot of BS, this one i wont. You place camera, im gone. Driver facing camera can get you in trouble in court because of this and is not worth pennyes driver earn.My advise to joung drivers is STOP and look for normal hour jobs with less risc .Dont be stupid like i was..Dont !

[@mak8836]

Very interesting stuff about the camera. Have you ever been driven in Mexico or Canada?

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Kevin is originally Canadian, so he certainly drove cars but never a truck there. Drive a car in Mexico, but again, no truck. So he’s never done a truck border crossing either. 😃

[@mak8836]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Looking forward to this. :)

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@mak8836 Kevin is on OTR48. So we think it does not include border crossing. We had looked into it with Werner but apparently it’s a whole different account. We believe it’s the same at Crete. Sorry…

[@mak8836]

@@TheJoyofTrucking No problrm. The US is big enough.

[@truckingwithj7202]

@@mak8836 us drivers don't cross into Mexico. Language barrier, and lack of infrastructure are the main reasons.

[@darrellsaunders4267]

Kinda hard to believe that a big company like Crete doesn't have a written procedure on this....hmmmm...

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Right!?!

[@adgreene]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Did Crete EVER GET a written policy/procedure on driver facing cameras (or cameras) at all?

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@adgreene Not that we know of.

[@adgreene]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Nothing in the handbook or paperwork when you started? Did you sign any paperwork for the camera when you started? Thank you for your response!

[@adgreene]

@@TheJoyofTrucking That is crazy!

[@OhioBikeRider]

If you think that's all the camera records, they lied to you buddy. Sorry to tell you that's not the case

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

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