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[@-ross3778]

Hi Pete! I'm a HUGE fan of your work. I know you're ostensibly "a Risk content creator," but even though I *_really_* enjoy the gameplay, _the way you vocalize your journey through life (role modeling introspection, honesty, and forthrightness in a manner not often seen) can/does have _*_SIGNIFICANT_*_ positive impacts in the lives of many of your viewers_ and is, IMO, the best part of what you do. *THANK YOU.* It is in that spirit - and in an effort to, if possible, reciprocate to you the service you so naturally provide to others - that I posted the following response to you in one of the comments below. (OP alleged that you were pissed off when your bonus was broken, and you responded saying that they were attributing too much emotionality to you)... What precipitated your impression that OP was "attributing emotionality" to your _"strategic retaliation"_ rather than to: 1) _your uncharacteristically intense silence_ and/or 2) _your abnormally taught facial muscles,_ and/or 3) _you suddenly holding your over your lips MUCH more than you normally do,_ and/or 4) 4:52 _you interjecting "you don't _*_what??"_*_ (in a snappy manner inconsistent with your very polite norm)?_ P.S.: You responded to another viewer's comment to note that they had not specified what they hoped you would learn by rewatching and examining your reaction. (Assuming my impression of that person's intent is correct) I believe I can provide some clarity there: I suspect that they had the same intent _and expectation/anticipation_ that I had in asking my question: I feel confident that, upon re-examining/-considering how you reacted in that moment, you will recognize 2 things: 1) even though it may not have factored into your play, _you _*_were_*_ (understandably) frustrated_ - and to a degree that I cannot recall ever seeing before. 2) Your posts in the comments-section seem to indicate that _you were/are either not conscious of your frustration or in (uncharacteristic) denial about it._ ❤

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Thank you for the support! It is unexpected and appreciated. I do not seek to be a role model. If I am that is on others not me. The show is a personal journey of me as a competitor as you've said. I make a conscious decision to show you guys what I choose to. Warts and all. Because I'm human and because I think it makes for an interesting show. No one can know how I felt in that moment but me. You are all free to make up your own minds. Those who have been asking questions about it I'm trying my best to answer. My process with anger is immediate. I tend to get a bit loud and then let it pass through me. I don't like feeling anger so it's an adaptation to let it go. I understand that a lot of folks come to me to learn so I will leave with this. I know exactly what I did and why. I'd do it again in exactly the same way in that scenario and I chose to post this video intentionally. The viewer is free to learn the lesson, or not.

[@bensuave9431]

Pete got quiet after his bonus was stolen lol I knew he was pissed

[@unluckygamer692]

the subtle nodding too lol, it's a tell for Pete

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

You are attributing too much emotionality to strategic retaliation

[@joburgmayday]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy part of what makes you a compelling watch is you wear your heart on your sleeve, it's not a massive deal but it was a little uncomfortable when you were obviously mad about white taking your bonus

[@paulolazaro9569]

​@@joburgmaydayyou say it was 'uncomfortable' but honestly how else is he supposed to react to that?

[@joburgmayday]

@@paulolazaro9569 he could remember it's a game and you don't have to get steamed about it when talking to people on VC - it's not fun to watch. or not, it's his channel and he can do what he likes. Pete is usually open to feedback though!

[@mikest8758]

Stealing a early game bonus like is almost guaranteed to start a war

[@TheCreoleSon89]

It typically ends in one of them losing first. Kind of good for Pete to recheck himself and pivot. That’s what I like about him. He gets emotional then steps back to think what is the next best move to reposition. I’m a kamakazi type player if that happens so lol 🤣

[@3f34f2f4]

I see nothing wrong with how white played. He won the battle for that early bonus.

[@eberlchl]

To answer the question - probably only if my consolation prize was the strongest bonus on the map haha

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Exactly. I'm glad it worked out that way eh!

[@kyruublad]

I like how white didnt back down, he did have a more favourable spot on that bonus, and im glad he kept on attacking even though pete kinda tried to bully him into stopping over the VC. Touche to pete aswell for giving up on getting revenge early on too.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

It made for a much more interesting video

[@zacharybunker1135]

discord has a background noise suppression feature, if he's on PC you should get gus to turn it on if you are using discord

[@coleeto2]

Yeah, this was an unfortunate distraction from a game with some great players

[@ripxdoc]

Xerokee knew what was coming after white pinched the bonus early 😂

[@Tomaltach139]

Reading through the comments: I've been watching Pete a long time now and I've seen how he's grown while he's played this game. The fact he backed off even with the plus 7 bonus is a clear indicator of this, if this was say a year, a year and a half ago, Pete would have beaten the white player until they both died. But he didn't he took the plus 7 took the moment to work through what emotion he was feeling and continued to play the game. What I feel a lot of people are missing here is the history of how Pete plays as well, and he says this time and time and time again in his videos where people get smacked hard and then just bot out, if someone hits you like that, you have to hit them back to send the message you aren't just going to take it. That's what he did. Then he explained exactly how he plays in the VC after the fact and told white that if he wanted to make him lose he'd also make white lose. Is it aggressive? Sure. Is it him bullying someone or being a sore loser or any of that, absolutely not, its the way he plays. He doesn't hide that and it's there in a good number of his videos both here and on the other channel.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I'm glad I had the opportunity to play to win. I prefer that over making anyone lose. I don't really have anything against any of my oppronents and I get why white saw that as his best play turn one.

[@gooddaysir8273]

Hey Pete, your channel is currently one of the few things getting me through this fookin semester Cheers for getting me into risk man, your channel is hella awesome

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Appreciate it bro!

[@RainVellicort]

Definitely wasn't expecting that energy to start the vid off, but we all get annoyed when people try to screw us. White could have moved up toward Allston while the area had no bonus holders or big numbers yet to avoid making an enemy in the first 4 minutes. It's just a game though and none of you said anything over the top, everyone moved on so gg

[@acarriere30]

Pete i defeated a GRANDMASTER! all thanks to watching you play! PS: Gus is Quebecois.

[@LewisDSR]

I liked this game. Pete generally shows his thoughts because he doesnt have vc. White knew it was risky Because Pete is always going to fire back, the whole lobby new. Pete let the whole lobby know he was willing to throw it away and i think that kept him from really being the fish early game (back to back big trades helps). Honestly big moves by keeping the prize in sight and playing for the win. Risk is definitely a strategy and negotiation game and i believe pete negotiated perfectly there. Any less aggression and he was done for. Well played.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Yeah I definitely got lucky.

[@seansoccer100]

Good game Pete. I liked your thinking at 6:53 when the +7 opportunity arose.

[@zackcinq-mars2129]

White did miss a fortify in that early turn. If they had fortified correctly, then Pete would have had to break a 7 to break the bonus. Pete says he will retaliate every time, but I don't see Pete hitting a 6v7. Maybe he would manual a few, but I have a hard time believing that would be the play. I think sending that strong message is vital to him not just dying here though. Pete you mention White should have known you would retaliate, but white probably also knew that you would play to win if you had the chance. If they had time to fortify do you think you would have still smacked them or would you have shifted to taking a bonus/play to win like you did in the following turn?

[@richardbrill2807]

35:50 poor gus, i felt that "oh"

[@TensioTalks]

I''ll make sure to just let you win if we play

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Everyone should always just let me win

[@Celery999]

I actually think that reaction from Pete was somewhat justified. Yes the white player did have better lines to it but Pete got there first. Upon the White player making his intentions known, Pete then offered to move his stack out of the bonus to allow the White player to have it. In a normal risk game, what white did wouldn’t be relevant, but when you’re on a voice chat you have to act with some decorum and decency, white failed to do so.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I find it useful to learn who has diplomatic skills particularly among top players. I tend to have a really good memory in general and I'm always adding little things like this into my understanding of my potential future opponents.

[@Celery999]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy That’s a good take to have, I think that the statement that this situation makes is actually far more important than the incident itself. What this does is makes a point to every player in the game and any other top player who watched this game, it tells them that you will not allow someone to take liberties and subdue yourself for anyone. Any player that sees this will air on the side of caution when playing against you, allowing you to have a small psychological advantage against these players, they know that you are willing to go to a war off attrition to prove a point and that tool is beyond powerful, it’ll allow you to make moves/get away with things that other players simply wouldn’t be able to.

[@ryankallenbach6546]

Hey Pete! Love you loads man

[@stevefeak5696]

??? In a negotiation game, he offered to leave the bonus if white wanted it. White declined and smashed him and took it. Could you elaborate what Pete did wrong here? I would have spent the rest of the game sending all my troops into white and taking 6th place. If anyone needs to take a step back and learn from the game, it’s white.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I definitely care what the viewers think. But you haven't suggested what it is I have to learn?

[@BenClaar]

​@@TheKillPeteStrategy Does one typically grow more from being told they're wrong, or through self-reflection?

[@jonathanm1547]

@@BenClaar Not you being sarcastic and trying to sound smart lol. There is no right or wrong here just opinion so stop trying to sound righteous goof. It happens to everyone we have games we get immersed in and are passionate about. Getting frustrated is a human emotion that is harmless and ok I hope nobody ever pays for therapy/advice from you 💯

[@ryankallenbach6546]

​@@TheKillPeteStrategy Appreciate it! Before I explain my point of view I just wanted to say I hope this comes across as someone who sees something they didn't like and wants to put awareness on it. After that do whatever you like with my words. All I have is love for you Pete

[@fluxifygaming2827]

I dont think anybody realizes that you tried to negotiate with white by offering to move out and he rolled through your troops and just took your bonus anyways. I think that justifies your negative reaction towards his play especially in a scenario where you can talk and discuss options. Yet you still found a better alternative to play for a win. To me this shows great ressilence and calmness to an unfavorable play.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I'm not trying to put out negative vibes.

[@fluxifygaming2827]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy Understandable I just think people don’t understand competition some times but I know you also care about creating a good show and being well to others. Keep up the good work. I am enjoying the content everyday!

[@anthonym1880]

ggs man, thanks for the content as always ❤

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

You're very welcome!

[@shadowmancer7040]

All the Love and respect Pete. I've been watching for a few months and admire you. This video was instantly uncomfortable/unpleasant and I was sad. My two cents is you appeared to act/communicate anger when the vibe in the room was silly joking. I would've hoped that you would've been able to laugh and joke with white while retaliating instead of being deadly serious and silent.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Sometimes threats are effective strategically. How mad I was is really only something I can know.

[@jacksonallen101]

Oh ho ho so spicy in that early game

[@ReedReadsYT]

Hi Pete! how do you use the tools to show the audience? I have seen that multiple time on your videos and just think it could be useful to use on my twitch. Thanks Pete!

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

It's called the screen marker and recorder app

[@ReedReadsYT]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy thank you!

[@LithmusEarth]

4 minutes in and it feels like Pete became the fish, and it's all white's fault, Pete wasn't happy to be moved into such a rough position, let's see if round 2 he can pull out of it. I assume he is heading into the Blue 1 the White 1, although the bot Just moved into both, shit. Yep okay we were looking at the same one. I'd love to see the bonuses, I don't know this map, love to know what this one point 14 stack of white's is guarding.

[@royaljoker5972]

I mean Pete did hinge his open on a 5v2 with really no troops to guard an OP turn 1 bonus. He shouldn’t be too surprised someone didn’t just let him win haha

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Sometimes people make moves that seem like the right move for them in a vacuum. I play in a very consistent way. And I play in public. So it's rarely in a vacuum for me. If I'm known to always retaliate than people are able to make their decisions as informed ones, not in a vacuum and play accordingly.

[@mhreinhardt]

I love this map, it's so weird. Rough start for sure. About halfway through watching and was wondering why is no one attempting to take the islands? I get that there ended up being a lot of troops mixed in over there, but they're pretty easy to hold once you take them.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I thought about it but yeah, by the time I could there were far too many troops in there

[@user-ym9gg6mt9f]

I like when you get passionate Pete, why did Washington cross the Delaware if not for us to speak our minds to those sneaky brits!

[@StratiGG]

Carter is Irish....... not a Brit :P

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Surely nobody would think Leona is a sneaky Brit?

[@StratiGG]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy Long live the empire! *cough* I mean...... we come in peace

[@user-ym9gg6mt9f]

You know I'm starting to think they might not have been British...

[@EnderW33]

I wonder if Arco wouldn’t have been better served by putting another troop here and there on that island at the bottom. Then when he killed white, he got ten troops and if he also put those down on the island it would have served as a kill blocker against him.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

The three player scenario is rough in a points based tournament with vc. Rather than get teamed on its safer for me to take a bounty and second.

[@BarbaricYawp]

This was a VC enabled tournament game. Pete used aggressive verbal negotiations to fend off an opponent, preserve his position, and achieve a second place finish. Good on him.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I'm glad I had the opportunity

[@JJOKOCHA2010]

Congrats on 100k you deserve it been here since 20k ❤❤

[@maxmantycora5132]

With talking, it's a different game. It's funny.

[@blakeabel4721]

Pete really seemed like the friend that ruins every game when he got pissed

[@fluxifygaming2827]

Well if you tried negotiating and someone didnt care and rolled through a huge portion of your troops turn 1 you would probably be upset to especially in a competitive enviroment.

[@blakeabel4721]

@@fluxifygaming2827 it's a free for all game dude. Nobody owes anybody a favor

[@remcovanhartevelt588]

Could you make it so it is clear who is speaking? Like I can't link any voice to a colour in this game, the only voice I can connect is that gus is red.

[@davidhartwig1596]

Wait, Gus was green...?

[@NP-gb5su]

I personally think that White single handedly made this game much more interesting. Otherwise it would have been incredibly boring imho 😅

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Absolutely!

[@nickfellenz8897]

I think white played it just fine. The VC part of this all I could take your leave, but the negotiating of the bonuses to make it all fair seems soft for the level of play. If you guys all want a bonus to make it fair then make it a manual set up.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Yeah totally up to him how he wants to play it. I am afforded the same.

[@luvmu4ever]

That's the worst move for white in the 1st round by making enemy before you build your strength , you will never play for a win with that kind of move

[@ethanharrison5414]

Seen some people talk about it already but it was a very uneasy watch at the start with Pete talking to the white player like that, white made the best play for himself, it’s an individual game, the players you play against owe you nothing, just felt a little childish the behaviour and way in which Pete spoke to white.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Oh yeah he definitely has no obligation to play any way. Im making the point that the fact that I will always retaliate in that scenario means that it's absolutely not the best play for himself. Im not going to call you names and I'd appreciate if you'd avoid the same.

[@ethanharrison5414]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy absolutely Pete, didn’t call you a name, and will continue not to do so…

[@alexandertrippel1539]

Thats what it means to have a basic understanding of FFA game theory ​@@zepplo9309

[@fluxifygaming2827]

@@zepplo9309 in a competitive enviroment this promotes self preservation of both parties or equal demise. This is a tactic used in diplomacy all the time, considering this is a game especially where communication is present, works. It is not a sore loser play. Its basically saying if you are going to make me lose you better finish me off.

[@jonathanm1547]

@@ethanharrison5414 You called him a child when you said "felt a little childish". Doesn't have to be explicitly stated... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt you genuinely believed what you just said. And to translate Pete's point it was not the best play for white because of the common knowledge of what Pete does to people who break him which White highly likely knew by how he was nervous turn 1 and had to think long and hard before committing to hitting Pete. It it not childish to be frustrated in a game your passionate about like Risk is to Pete stop trying to sound like your righteous.

[@tyquanlittle3283]

Give me a like if you freaking love the Pete man!

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I love you too bro.

[@callummclaughlin7123]

White clearly made the best play for him turn 1, if he pulled the 5 in Pete couldn’t retaliate. That was really horrible to watch Pete trying to bully someone.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I'm sorry that it wasnt clear because it bears repeating. The fact that I will always retaliate when someone does that makes it not the best play.

[@noahsimon8776]

​@@TheKillPeteStrategyI think what the other guy is saying (and white's idea there) is that if white fortified properly, your only immediate course of retaliation would be a 6v7 to break (low odds). Maybe your point is that you would go mutually assured destruction anyways and even failing the roll would likely take off enough white troops for someone else to swoop in.

[@butterthatbiscuit]

how is speaking truthfully bullying

[@brycekallenbach8042]

Dude how is it a bullying? If you are white, part of the play of kicking Pete out is the retaliation. Carter made no attempt to compromise.

[@3f34f2f4]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy Except white won the early bonus and his game was fine as you played to win and didn't go to attrition.

[@Yengozi]

Xerokee Gus and Arco let’s go

[@schongemeldet1]

Algorithm boost 🔥

[@MegaMorphus]

pete, too angry. made the game not as fun as it could have been to watch

[@MegaMorphus]

@@zackcinq-mars2129 I did t say anything about not posting or anything. Just let him know it’s easier for casual viewers to watch games where he doesn’t seem as upset or spiteful. He doesn’t have to listen to me if he doesn’t like. I too will continue to watch the Peteman. Was just letting him know why thoughts. I do appreciate you and your posts Pete.

[@robertofranzgrote5963]

Spoiler blocccckkkk

[@user-pu1db3yb9h]

The beginning was interesting. You had to retaliate, but you totally lost your cool. Maybe it didnt matter this game but thats a losing line more often than not. Any case made for not the best content. You got it under control eventually.

[@Cubesies]

I think most of you guys who were made uncomfortable by Pete reacting to the early game are misreading exactly how "angry" he was? After attempting to suggest alternate ways for white to proceed he took the bonus even though Pete was clear with what would happen if he did? This isn't friends sitting around a table, its competition. He was simply sternly commenting on the fact that that is what he will do if such a play happens every time. I don't personally think that Pete was ever "out of control".

[@fluxifygaming2827]

He went a little off temper but understandably so when you try to negotiate with some one and they make the play regardless without talking through things. If you cant negotiate there and you already became the fish you might as well make the guy who made you lose suffer to. Basic competitive instinct. Yet he still negotiated into a second so cant blame his strategy.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Yeah man. Folks have a hard time with negative emotion. I get that since I imagine a lot of people are watching the show to unwind

[@ripxdoc]

Xerokee knew what was coming after white pinched the bonus early 😂