Here is how 2025 can get Marvel and the MCU back on track. | The Big Thing

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Kristian Harloff

Kristian Harloff

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@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
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@ReelPodcasts
@ReelPodcasts 9 ай бұрын
BTW Kristian don't know why but the vessi link isn't working just goes to a 404 page
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
@@ReelPodcasts Thank you! Trying to get it fixed!
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
@@ReelPodcasts Should be working now!
@anantpalmatharoo2051
@anantpalmatharoo2051 9 ай бұрын
"OH..." 💀💀💀 capes and cowls is my favourite
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
Hahah
@carterm.3039
@carterm.3039 9 ай бұрын
Clip that out 😂
@khalled2419
@khalled2419 9 ай бұрын
RIP Akira Toriyama
@piusdoe8984
@piusdoe8984 9 ай бұрын
Legend
@crashingcoyote
@crashingcoyote 9 ай бұрын
*Kristian & Coy looking super concerned* Coy: “what state is this in” Winston: “In Texas” Kristian & Coy: “Oh. Ya” Best Capes & Cowls moment of 2024
@momentie4438
@momentie4438 9 ай бұрын
Lmao that shit had me rolling
@Chudsic
@Chudsic 9 ай бұрын
Instant classic lol
@fearlessweaver
@fearlessweaver 9 ай бұрын
I can't see Blade coming out in 2025. Not only is it too much content in that year, but I don't see how the Midnight Sons corner of the universe does much to build hype for Avengers 5 & 6.
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 9 ай бұрын
They should move blade and put Fantastic 4 in its place
@philrm99
@philrm99 9 ай бұрын
Very interested to see how the Leader is portrayed in the upcoming Captain America movie since he's a archenemy of the Hulk than any other Marvel hero.
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
We shall see!
@ScottyyDoesntKnow
@ScottyyDoesntKnow 9 ай бұрын
That Oh about Texas made the hollering 😂😂
@Kyle_Leinen
@Kyle_Leinen 9 ай бұрын
Even if Deadpool 3 is a massive hit doesn't mean the MCU is out of the woods. No Way Home was huge but Marvel still struggles. Capt America 4 and Thunderbolts will be the true measuring sticks.
@jasono.1629
@jasono.1629 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree. This 👆. Deadpool isn’t important Marvel, it’s seen as sideshow comedy Marvel.
@sharonpollitt1524
@sharonpollitt1524 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ridethasno
@ridethasno 9 ай бұрын
131k Subscribers… well done Kristian! The road to 200k will happen faster than expected.
@northstarbrooks
@northstarbrooks 9 ай бұрын
Honestly the intros are some of the best parts of the show 😂😂. That Texas line killed me!
@Erwin_Efforts
@Erwin_Efforts 9 ай бұрын
Quite possibly the best opening minutes to a Capes & Cowls episode so far. 🤣😂🤣 You guys are the best.
@Trentch21
@Trentch21 9 ай бұрын
The thing with man of steel is that if he doesn’t kill zod, zod would have gone on to kill millions of more people. He would not have stopped. Clark had no choice but to kill him in that moment, and the fact that it goes so much against his morality, he cried out in utter anguish after. I loved that zod dying scene.
@bobsilentjay7611
@bobsilentjay7611 9 ай бұрын
I really don't get why people are so against that. Zod made it clear what he'd do if Superman let him live. Way more people would be dead. As in, billions.
@josephashley4122
@josephashley4122 9 ай бұрын
Great show. Wish I had friends to talk stuff like this. It's worth watching every Friday
@Jal2446
@Jal2446 9 ай бұрын
that last segment on Synder and your critiques of superhero movies is gold, its stuff that people were either thinking or at least we subconsciously knew, which could be a factor on why the DCEU didn't resonate with a broader audience. Superman lets thousands die, but kills Zod for a family of three, now I can't get that thought out of my head on Man of Steel. Also, Coy needs to expand on that Bryan Singer made mutant movies but never made an Xmen movie.
@garyhutchinson7908
@garyhutchinson7908 9 ай бұрын
How did Superman let thousands die? He was literally Superman for a day, out numbered without no training expected to fight against Kryptonians that were military trained from birth. Also if you watch the movie you'll hear Faora tell him "for every human you save we'll kill a million more" The last words he literally says to Zod is stop twice and Zod replies "never" leaving him no choice.
@bobsilentjay7611
@bobsilentjay7611 9 ай бұрын
He "let thousands die???" When? In the movie I saw he was fighting Zod with everything he had. And he'd only been Superman for, what, 36 hours AT MOST? Going against a lifelong warrior and military commander? In order to make this argument, you literally have to selectively omit so much relevant shit from that movie.
@andrewryan2400-z3d
@andrewryan2400-z3d 9 ай бұрын
1 - Take a break. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." 2 - Hire creatives who have experience and let them cook 3 - Limit the amount of content per year. I personally think they should also stop the Disney + shows entirely b/c it isn't rly working for most people 4 - let the creatives make good quality films that are DIFFERENT from the Marvel formula 5 - Stop worrying so much about the future. Focus mainly on individual, standalone movies that are great. Start doing more interconnectivity when people are starting to care more about the movies
@zaneplatt3533
@zaneplatt3533 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you on everything except the 3rd point. They really need the Disney+ shows to be very different, instead of just an extension of the existing MCU tone and story. It is why stuff like Daredevil and The Punisher worked the best. They already seem to be going down this road with the revamps to Daredevil, Blade and seemingly The Punisher.
@samthomas3383
@samthomas3383 9 ай бұрын
Opening Convo was good stuff, need some more of that! Keep it up gentlemen
@seaconfused
@seaconfused 9 ай бұрын
Josh Horowitz and Ali Plumb (BBC) are the BEST interviewers. They are polite, respectful and they know what they talk about.
@tornadochaser2457
@tornadochaser2457 9 ай бұрын
They're monsters, the power went to their heads real quick.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
They’re pretty terrific.
@SamCera
@SamCera 9 ай бұрын
3:20 amazing 😂
@BarnesGannon
@BarnesGannon 9 ай бұрын
Interested to hear what you guys have to say on this. For me, it comes down to consistently making quality movies. If Marvel can get back to that, they'll be just fine.
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@LAnimeMaster
@LAnimeMaster 9 ай бұрын
I watched that "In Texas, Oh" reaction several times over. XD
@aidankeohane3370
@aidankeohane3370 9 ай бұрын
Lol I love how Coy asks what state that happened in and Winston says Texas like “where the fuck do you think?”
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@louisenglish8069
@louisenglish8069 9 ай бұрын
Well, I live in Texas and just unsubscribed, so laugh it up guys. Thought you all were smarter, telling my friends who watch as well. So, congratulations
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
@@louisenglish8069 This is a joke right? No way someone who watches this channel is that sensitive over a joke and unsubbed cause of a joke? And if you did then yeah wrong channel for you. But if you are just joking then you got me, haha.
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
@@louisenglish8069 Wait this was real? Oh yeah sorry dude, you have been watching the wrong channel. We laugh at everything and jokes are jokes so if that kind of joke offended you, sorry to lose ya but you made the right choice. You would probably be offended again.
@louisenglish8069
@louisenglish8069 9 ай бұрын
@@TheKristianHarloff This was not handled like a "joke." I've been a watcher of you guys for a while and can tell the difference, believe this was a unintentional glimpse from you guys. Shame. No, this was never the channel for me, but always watched and appreciated your takes. However, this one was we're all racist here? Is that the joke? Yeah, well, if that's the joke then I'm glad to not get it
@horatiogamble7036
@horatiogamble7036 9 ай бұрын
That's good cowbell! Good show gentlemen. #coyisshilling4marvel
@MoramothHauntz
@MoramothHauntz 9 ай бұрын
Shang Chi and Iron-Heart feel like the biggest dangling threads in the MCU. I feel incredibly bad for Mahershala Ali and Anthony Ramos
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
They can let Iron Heart keep dangling
@skydivingintofiction7532
@skydivingintofiction7532 9 ай бұрын
Marvel needs to choose what characters work, and then make movie and storylines that will draw people back
@ramspencer5492
@ramspencer5492 9 ай бұрын
There's no problem with the characters.... It's the making content for the sake of making content.... Putting the cart before the horse.... It starts with vision and writing.... If there's nothing meaningful for the artists to create with... It will be filler and "product"... There will be no meaningful threads to build anything compelling to connect with. Characters will be flat ... There will be tropes instead of rewarding story arcs.
@OrionInSpace
@OrionInSpace 9 ай бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again but TikTok, KZbin shorts, Instagram reels or whatever it has turned into is ruining how people take in things. They are so manipulative and also easier to make something out of a clip that doesn't need to be made into a clip. Everything is all about getting clips now because that's what that kind of content is good for. Like don't get me wrong, some good memes and funny things have come from them but the majority of it is SO BAD for the human brain. I am so glad that I didn't get on that TikTok, short video addiction. It's so negative for everything doesn't matter if it's for the industry or not. Horowitz like you mentioned Kristian does the game better.
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
Fact
@Sasu123456789x1
@Sasu123456789x1 9 ай бұрын
So true
@austinh7539
@austinh7539 9 ай бұрын
I’m telling you right now. Idk why but there’s nothing I want more out of the MCU than midnight suns.
@MindofMike35
@MindofMike35 9 ай бұрын
Zombies should be a "Special Presentation" movie on Disney+
@Sasu123456789x1
@Sasu123456789x1 9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@skydivingintofiction7532
@skydivingintofiction7532 9 ай бұрын
You have a point there. People can say a character it bad, but what made them bad is the writing, direction, or the acting.
@MynjaBidniz
@MynjaBidniz 9 ай бұрын
New title card logo situation is 🔥
@kaemmerphotography
@kaemmerphotography 9 ай бұрын
The vessi link doesn’t work. Gives me a 404 error. Might want to check to see if it is missing something
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
Should be working now!
@PTJarman
@PTJarman 9 ай бұрын
As a fan of the MCU from the start - the 1st 11 years and the 1st 23 films had just a handful of 'duds'. Maybe 3 or 4 that weren't as well-written or directed vs the other 20. Watched Civil War & Guardians 1 again over the weekend and they are stellar films in terms of action and dialogue. So is Winter Soldier, GOTG, Ant-Man and all the others. After the finale of Phase 3 and the disruption of the Pandemic, the MCU simply failed to set up another run of 'must-see' films. As you've said, part of the appeal of those first 3 phases was the connectivity and the story-lines, not to mention the actors developing those MCU characters. Losing RBJ's Iron Man as the glue left a void they've yet to fill. MCU just needs to get back to epic story-telling onscreen, even as they set up Fantastic Four and the next Avengers films. Stop making movies by committee and social media feedback and give control to someone who has a vision for what the original 20+ films captured, our imagination. We don't have super hero movie fatigue, we have bad / the same movie fatigue. Cheers.
@tjreilly843
@tjreilly843 9 ай бұрын
“Oh” god I love this show. Keep it up fellas
@T-Why-Ler
@T-Why-Ler 9 ай бұрын
Less than 4 mins in, damn i love these guys
@jameslevario2254
@jameslevario2254 9 ай бұрын
In texas!! As a fellow texan, that tracks!!
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
Haha
@marcakins3373
@marcakins3373 9 ай бұрын
I love the conversation, I hope a good Wonderman , Vision quest , animated Spidey, and I hope good Wakanda series comes to Disney +
@dannygavin9458
@dannygavin9458 9 ай бұрын
The Snyder Rogan interview is really good and worth the listen. The quotes from the article are missing a ton of context around deconstruction of characters and other topics
@bobsilentjay7611
@bobsilentjay7611 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Loved that episode. Zack Snyder is awesome
@petelannen3077
@petelannen3077 9 ай бұрын
Shareholders will be the death of art.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 9 ай бұрын
It seriously messes with a lot of stuff, not just art, too. Share/stockholders are the only thing CEOs and boards seem interested in pleasing.
@EleventhCubFan
@EleventhCubFan 9 ай бұрын
Oof. I’m not surprised Snyder said a lot of controversial stuff on Joe Rogan. The Joe Rogan Experience is where thoughtful/intelligent conversation goes to die.
@SpideySensei72
@SpideySensei72 9 ай бұрын
Man, if you aren't following Coy on Twitter you are missing some serious comedy gold. On camera, he's like the nicest dude in the world. On Twitter, he's a pure savage.
@Planet_Yavin
@Planet_Yavin 9 ай бұрын
Great conversation on the MCU slate. Its super stacked. Overwhelming even. Do you think that Marvel also takes into consideration the release of other major projects? I'm thinking DC's Superman in July 2025 in particular. I swear, sometimes it seems like whack-a-mole sometimes with these release dates. Thanks for the awesome discussion!
@Abhin_04
@Abhin_04 9 ай бұрын
I don't think they should try to redo the Barbenheimer thing with Avengers and Avatar. Barbie and Oppenheimer were just two films while Avengers and Avatar are multi-billion dollar franchises.
@KleenxkuT
@KleenxkuT 9 ай бұрын
I say it goes 24 - Deadpool/Wolverine 25 - Captain America, F4, Thunderbolts 26 - Blade, Spider man 4 27 - Armor wars, Avengers 5.
@gohanson27
@gohanson27 9 ай бұрын
"That shows chaos right now" LMAO.
@chrisbrown113096
@chrisbrown113096 9 ай бұрын
We all said “oh” just like Norman Osborn 💀😂😂
@Kyle_Leinen
@Kyle_Leinen 9 ай бұрын
How come Nolan and Goyer don't receive more "blame" for the Zod kill?
@staceytoon8364
@staceytoon8364 9 ай бұрын
So awesome you guys amusing each other. "How many are in the van? 4, no way, wait three, O.K., here comes a world full of pain!"
@MichaelNewmanII
@MichaelNewmanII 9 ай бұрын
The hilarity, of when Kristian and Koi both just said Oh!!.... Of course its Texas 😂😂😂
@ericsmith9547
@ericsmith9547 9 ай бұрын
Dune has 3 weeks to its self before Kong comes out. That’s a perfectly fine distance away. Most movies make the largest chuck of their gross within the first 3 weeks.
@jim1242
@jim1242 9 ай бұрын
Agree, I think Ironheart could be axed. It doesnt matter, it is has already been filmed. Look at batgirl. If disney or marvel think it is not good enough and releasing it will harm viewership for other shows and movies, they could axed. Especially as there is litte interest in the show and is unlikely to convince any new sign ups to disney+
@nickvaughn8533
@nickvaughn8533 9 ай бұрын
I will be shocked if Marvel’s 2025 slate remains the same. I believe Blade will be pushed to February 2026, F4 will take the November 2025 spot (easy marketing…see Marvel’s first family this holiday season) and the Avengers films will get pushed back a year so Avengers 5 in 2027 and Secret Wars 2028.
@ThePlaceToBe_RK
@ThePlaceToBe_RK 9 ай бұрын
Who got Marvel to the top? The Russo Bros, Markus & McFeely, Jon Favreau, James Gunn, and the OG Avengers cast. They are gone from Marvel now, and the people you have replaced them with aren't even in the same galaxy in terms of talent. It really is that simple.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
Disney has a long, long history of stumbling onto something that pops, not knowing why & then beating the IP into the ground until you forget it ever existed…
@Leandros135
@Leandros135 9 ай бұрын
The essence of being a HERO is not killing. Anything less you stoop to the level of the villains. Thats what the antihero is for. If you get rid of the no kill rule there is no room for antihero’s in the story because everyone would essentially be one. So what story’s can you really tell with that? Not much.
@christopherglasper9224
@christopherglasper9224 9 ай бұрын
Hey Kristian don't know if you'll read this but I would've really liked to get Coys and Winston opinion on the spider verse team pitching a Batman Beyond movie to Sony using the same animation and even showing concept art to them. This news was a little over a week ago, but if you can I would like you to bring up on next week episode. Sony turned it down , but I think it would be a hit
@zaneplatt3533
@zaneplatt3533 9 ай бұрын
How would Sony make an animated film based on a WB property?
@christopherglasper9224
@christopherglasper9224 9 ай бұрын
@@zaneplatt3533 I assumed it was Sony and still may be Sony, but your probably right. They may have pitched it to WB
@jonpaxton4987
@jonpaxton4987 9 ай бұрын
Great opening!
@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 9 ай бұрын
When it comes to Snyder's comments, I can kiiinda agree in the sense that you wanna test the morality of the character. To his credit, Snyder did establish his version of Batman was a 20+ year veteran of the crime fighting, had lost a Robin, and had admittedly become very jaded and cynical about what he was doing; to the point where yes: he does kill. While that's not a version I personally identify with, as I ride for the Batman who doesn't kill; I can ride with THIS particular version because of the back-story they gave him. Where he lost me though was that he never really changes that, even after "seeing the light" in Superman, and realizing the error of his ways. But then again, as Coy says: it's an Elseworlds tale. If this was presented as Zack Snyder's DC Universe, then okay we can more easily accept it as its own thing. But since it was presented as DC's answer to the MCU, which very much was trying to create the definitive versions of these characters on screen, then yes, there's a problem. That being said, the backlash to Snyder having a Batman who kills was still somewhat overblown to me. Why doesn't anyone level criticism to Tim Burton and his version of Batman, who straight up murdered people in those first two movies, and did so with a smile on his face. This Batman strapped a bomb to a clown, smiled at him, punched the clown into a hole, and walked away as the bomb explodes. And yet 30 years later, Burton's Batman is "the definitive" Batman. Yeah, you can say it's the 90s and no one cared, but Batman's no-kill policy has been a staple for a long time. Maybe Nolan helped popularize it because his movies eventually became definitive in their own right, I can't possibly fault Snyder for wanting to do something different with Batman, when Burton is celebrated for having a Batman who kills, a Joker who killed the Waynes, a Penguin who's literally a bird man, and a Catwoman who was brought to life by cats. I don't think Snyder was the right guy to shepherd a definitive on-screen Superman, let alone an on-screen DC Universe, but I do feel he got shat on for some pretty hypocritical reasons when it came to Batman.
@bobsilentjay7611
@bobsilentjay7611 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@josephashley4122
@josephashley4122 9 ай бұрын
Hoping talking about DragonBall creator Akira Toriyama passing bit maybe do it with Steph who talks every once in awhile about anime.
@nysimcharles33
@nysimcharles33 9 ай бұрын
Tbh i don’t see how Thunderbolts makes the May Release Date. It just started filming and another film that just started filming is Superman Legacy That comes out in July and push it one step further idk how F4 makes the July date because they don’t start filming until the end somewhere in August and it’s suppose to come out 2 weeks after Superman
@Sasu123456789x1
@Sasu123456789x1 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, these dates seem to close
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
Superman Legacy’s title has been shorted to just “Superman.” Good call on Gunn’s part, I think.
@nysimcharles33
@nysimcharles33 9 ай бұрын
@@grahamstrouse1165 that was left field but I’m just so use to saying Superman legacy I didn’t even notice 😂😂 and I agree it was a great thing to change it to just Superman
@piusdoe8984
@piusdoe8984 9 ай бұрын
Winston wrong in thinking Shang chi only has Simus injury to think about. With the fcking weirdness of China. Simus comments against them means Shang Chi 2 also has a high chance of not being played there. We might only see him in an Avengers movie
@trembledust6819
@trembledust6819 9 ай бұрын
@1:10:59 "was only like what 3 people..." My dude WTF LMFAO?!?!?!
@djstokes95
@djstokes95 9 ай бұрын
Winston thank you for bringing up the fact that the MCU was plagued with a shit ton of issues that prevented the cohesive story. And no I’m not saying they don’t have any blame but that’s a lot to ask a studio to adjust for at the same time.
@BrianPellerin
@BrianPellerin 9 ай бұрын
Josh Den of Nerds made a great writer pitch for The Punisher and Daredevil
@sleepisbutadream
@sleepisbutadream 9 ай бұрын
Nova 100% SHOULD happen, but they need to introduce him before he gets his own movie or whatever.
@CalebByRamen
@CalebByRamen 9 ай бұрын
harloff rules
@TheLshyne
@TheLshyne 9 ай бұрын
Wonderman is already shooting so I think that’s safe.
@connorseesall3523
@connorseesall3523 9 ай бұрын
Same!!!! I'm like really excited for that show so hearing everyone say it'll be cancelled makes me sad!!! Me and my buddy Grant are like ultra ultra excited about that show!!!!
@LazyEyeNZ
@LazyEyeNZ 9 ай бұрын
I'm excited for that show too. Love Yahya Abdul Mateen II. ​@@connorseesall3523
@Jedi2432
@Jedi2432 9 ай бұрын
Can’t believe the first product I’ve purchased from your sponsors is TUSHY lol. My ass thanks you. Love the show btw
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
GREATEST comment ever.
@OvnicentAparatus
@OvnicentAparatus 9 ай бұрын
Marvel will never be the same, the superhero movie fever is gone and it’s not the same no matter what happens
@R17759
@R17759 9 ай бұрын
Can’t expect people to care about the same thing to the same degree forever.
@zaneplatt3533
@zaneplatt3533 9 ай бұрын
It is so damn awesome that this period of film is over. In terms of blockbuster films we need more stuff like Oppenheimer, Fury Road, Dune and Barbie. The MCU domination was so boring and except for a handful of films the majority of what they released was formulaic and devoid of genuine filmmaking.
@playedout148
@playedout148 9 ай бұрын
​@@zaneplatt3533I own like 7 marvel movies.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
It’s like Westerns. The genre peaked in the ‘60s & ‘70s. There’ve been some amazing Westerns made since then but no studio views Westerns as their go-to move anymore.
@juanluismendoza8655
@juanluismendoza8655 9 ай бұрын
12:30 Coy has a good point about Blade. People online pretend like Blade is a massive deal but the reality is that the original Blade trilogy was never a huge money-making franchise. Those movies are basically cult films, the fans love them but the critics were split on them. If you want further proof, the highest-grossing Blade film was Blade 2 and do you want to know how much that movie made? It made 155 million which is less than Morbius’ 167 million. Yup, that’s right. Freaking Morbius did more money than the biggest Blade movie. So I don’t understand why people are ignoring that fact. Let’s not pretend like those movies were huge box office hits.
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
True
@mustermas
@mustermas 9 ай бұрын
You need to adjust those films for inflation especially since they were made over 20 years ago and you forget they had small budgets even for back then. Blade 1 made 131 million on a 45 mill budget . Blade 2 made 155 million on 54 million . Both were box office successes . Blade 3 made 132 on 65 mill budget so it prolly just broke even .
@jim1242
@jim1242 9 ай бұрын
the problem is a mcu blade will be always be compared to the orginal, and unless they get the team that made John Wick, the new version will never live up to the wesley snipes classic.
@juanluismendoza8655
@juanluismendoza8655 9 ай бұрын
@@jim1242 I understand that but if we have to be honest, how many people actually watched the original Blade movies or the Blade tv series? As I said, those movies are basically cult movies. I bet most people today don’t know there were Blade movies before so most people that will watch the new one will have nothing to compare it to. It’s like the Crow. Even though people are divided over the upcoming Crow reboot, how many people actually watched the original film and its sequels?
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
That was a different environment, first of all. Second, you’re not adjusting for inflation. Physical media was also a much bigger factor when the Blade movies came out.
@erikramirez8422
@erikramirez8422 9 ай бұрын
My question is? Did you guys listen to the rogan/Snyder podcast? I mean it's 2 hrs, alot was said it's kinda hard to comment of a few quotes. I recommend it, it's pretty cool, cheers fellas.
@bobsilentjay7611
@bobsilentjay7611 9 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. Just go listen to the episode, guys.
@MindofMike35
@MindofMike35 9 ай бұрын
4 minutes in, and it's already UNHINGED!!! This show is so great, I love the dynamic between you three!!! 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀👏👏👏
@tiafoster1997
@tiafoster1997 9 ай бұрын
Texas baby🙃
@marcobiotic
@marcobiotic 9 ай бұрын
Coy being unable to see flaws in anything Marvel …
@CoyJandreau
@CoyJandreau 9 ай бұрын
Yup, that’s what I said. Accurate
@tornadochaser2457
@tornadochaser2457 9 ай бұрын
@@CoyJandreau Coy eats toad slime for breakfast. Hehe, this is fun.
@reikiwizard7778
@reikiwizard7778 9 ай бұрын
😂😂 @ the beginning
@TheAlrightSpider-Man
@TheAlrightSpider-Man 9 ай бұрын
Marvel needs to make the movies must see and putting stuff right to streaming a month later kinda kills that also quality of course
@urbannetics_apparel3005
@urbannetics_apparel3005 9 ай бұрын
Coco and the Breeze Grant Gustafan and Ja' Lucas...keep em coming 😅
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
I think Superhero movies are in the same place that musicals were in the mid-60s & Westerns were in the early ‘70s. You can still make them but you need to be a lot more selective. Casuals aren’t turning out like they were and the hardcore fans, the ones you need to rely on in lean times, aren’t happy with the product.
@Abhin_04
@Abhin_04 9 ай бұрын
1:11:01 This was some good s**t, pal😂
@OrionQuest7
@OrionQuest7 9 ай бұрын
I'm sure I'll eventually get to the rest of the show but right I can't stop replaying the first four minutes. Can't. Stop. Laughing 😅
@trembledust6819
@trembledust6819 9 ай бұрын
So much facts! lol@ Bryan Singer
@JaiProdz
@JaiProdz 9 ай бұрын
I love you guys!
@BM-sg1sl
@BM-sg1sl 9 ай бұрын
Wakanda Forever is heavily underrated
@TboneUSA07
@TboneUSA07 9 ай бұрын
I really hope Ironheart doesn’t get scrapped. I honestly really like Riri Williams as a character in the books and the movie. Domonique Thorne is a great talent.
@zaneplatt3533
@zaneplatt3533 9 ай бұрын
I just can't see that film making good enough money though
@LazyEyeNZ
@LazyEyeNZ 9 ай бұрын
Me too I want to see the Iron Heart series especially since Alden Ehrenreich is in it.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
You’re in the minority, mate.
@TboneUSA07
@TboneUSA07 9 ай бұрын
@@grahamstrouse1165 I realize that, and it’s okay.
@edgarbyaruhanga6513
@edgarbyaruhanga6513 9 ай бұрын
Marvel is still doing things that worked in its start-up phases, rather than evolving into a fully fledged company that's working towards an IPO or has big investment firms. You can't plan 5 to 7 year schedules anymore, the algorithm has changed. It's the same worry I have with Gunn's 10 year, 72 movie connected universe. Zack Snyder thinks audiences have Wi-Fi to his thoughts - 100% agree with Coy, if you're going to change the rules and fundamentals of a character then he needs to give context, reason and explanation of the new rules to the audience.
@happyhoganisasimp
@happyhoganisasimp 9 ай бұрын
How long has this podcast been on KZbin like from its inception
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 8 ай бұрын
Well it depends.... The Big Thing started on the other channel which is now The Schmoedown Archives channel. I did 10-15 eps and then brought it over here with my CMPunk interview. THIS show specifically? Capes and Cowls Friday ep? I feel like it has been on for about a year and a half? We started it as a REWATCH series and then it evolved to this Friday show.
@mikemudra5489
@mikemudra5489 9 ай бұрын
I think that some of the cut projects that Marvel Studios cut out might be Iron Heart, Armor Wars, and Wonder-man I just think that both Feige and Iger thought those movies and series didn't fit I also think that some of the Disney + shows that they have might of got the axe I really do think that Deadpool and Wolverine is the movie that's important right now and I think it has a lot on it's shoulders it has to be good because Deadpool and Wolverine is the one that I think is going to save the MCU and bring it back on it's feet, and I think that Captain America 4, The Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, and Blade are going to make Marvel Studios back and strong again.
@Chudsic
@Chudsic 9 ай бұрын
I can't help but lol when I watch this channel, dude is such a natural comedian
@scottelement
@scottelement 9 ай бұрын
3:17 This is an all timer Capes & Cowls moment 😂
@mustermas
@mustermas 9 ай бұрын
Guys iron heart is done filming - it's getting released . It's not getting axed. It wrapped 2 months ago.
@jim1242
@jim1242 9 ай бұрын
doesnt matter, look at batgirl. If disney or marvel think it is not good enough and releasing it will harm viewership for other shows and movies, they could axed. Especially as there is litte interest in the show and is unlikely to convince any new sign ups to disney+
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 9 ай бұрын
Tax write-off, baby!
@dragontrainer76
@dragontrainer76 9 ай бұрын
Will you be putting all your pulled reviews n watch-alongs on patreon?
@Ruudgi
@Ruudgi 9 ай бұрын
Oh Kristian was saying Grant Gustafsson😂😂😂
@StewChicken42
@StewChicken42 9 ай бұрын
Goose-steffan was Steve Urkel's alter ego right?
@stevo6203
@stevo6203 9 ай бұрын
focus on the xmen and fantastic 4 and build around them
@cedrichouse9864
@cedrichouse9864 9 ай бұрын
People keep saying wonder man when the show is literally almost done shooting, there not going scrap it, same with iron heart the strikes really spread alot more shows and movies out
@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731
@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731 9 ай бұрын
@1:09:39. This be the most disingenuous excuses, to hate Zack Snyder's films. The fact that we were dealing with an older Batman was the point. He was an older, more jaded Batman. The literal citing of The Dark Knight comic book as inspiration suggested that. In the film, he looks at Robin's costume, which hinted Joker killed Robin. How much more on the nose could Snyder have gotten, and you still missed the point. Bruce even tells Alfred, "We were ALWAYS criminals..." The reason is that just being a vigilante is breaking the law... Bruce had been broken. The point in which you wanted Bruce to redeem himself was the infamous "Martha," scene, which for some reason, didn't land well with the audience. I feel like you guys are reaching for excuses to hate on Zack when, just like the writers of the comics, ALL do their interpretations of these characters. And let's get this "Batmn kills" thing to bed. Y'all act as if Batman just "murdered" ppl, and he did not. Those that used deadly force got met with it. If you died, you died... again... Zjust being a vigilante, as Batman stated... "Alfred, we were always criminals. "
@comiclove5
@comiclove5 9 ай бұрын
I think Blade should be moved to Febuary of 2026. Edit: Ok cool! Winston agrees, lol.
@Fuzzybubbles01
@Fuzzybubbles01 9 ай бұрын
I love the chemistry! However, Coy do u have to wear sunglasses inside when ur pasty, sorry that was mean. Ur clear skin reflects of the florescent lights? I do cause I'm in the same boat.
@CoyJandreau
@CoyJandreau 9 ай бұрын
? Did you have a stroke while writing this?
@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 9 ай бұрын
I think if there's any project that gets pushed back next year, it's Blade. It's already faced a bunch of BTS stumbles, pushing it back further is the most likely route, considering the current state of the MCU. The MCU has been very hit or miss, there's no denying it; even for someone like me who still enjoys this stuff. I do think that Iger is on the right track in terms of having to bite the bullet and just nix a whole bunch projects that either weren't coming along as well as they hoped, or stuff that seems superfluous. Tho I still think there's some revisionist history when it comes to the Infinity Saga. Phases 1 and 2 were very hit or miss. Each phase consisted of 6 films. 12 in total. If we're being real, only 4 of those movies were honestly celebrated and held in high regard (Iron Man, The Avengers, The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy). I think the reason why the L's feel so much more impactful now is because A.) we're coming off a Phase 3 where we legit had a STREAK of hits, even with some stumbles... and B.) There's just way too much content to consume both on TV and movies. Regardless of whether things overtly connect or not, I think the fact that there was too many projects greenlit, Feige was spread thin, and the studio itself didn't prep for TV the traditional way, just made certain projects falter in the writers room and on the CG front. Beginning with Deadpool and Wolverine, the MCU needs to have that streak again. It'd be nice if DP/Wolverine is followed up by a successful Cap 4, but if i"m being honest, the rewrites and reshoots (while normal for a film in general) make me wary... I hope to be proven wrong. Because even just a two-hit streak in a row beats the "one good, one bad, one good" record in the public and fan perception.
@EleventhCubFan
@EleventhCubFan 9 ай бұрын
Zod tried to terraform the Earth and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Superman was absolutely justified in killing him and I couldn’t believe people were so upset by it.
@UCanGetWitThisOrUCanGetWitThat
@UCanGetWitThisOrUCanGetWitThat 9 ай бұрын
Factz!!! Also ppl act like Superman chose to destroy the buildings and didn't care about their lives. Like he did his best to save all those lives in that Smallville town
@ACCIO_music
@ACCIO_music 9 ай бұрын
I heard blade might get pushed back bc they wanna push Spiderman 4
@parsman9914
@parsman9914 9 ай бұрын
Every time Coy says Giacchino, I'm like: 😒
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