Barn Find classic BMW discovery - Is this the rarest (first?) BMW Touring ever made?

[@Dan23_7]

A unicorn is an understatement Jonny. This is rocking horse shht. This car needs to be restored and put in a museum. I’m gobsmacked at this car’s rarity. I think you should be the one to do it, because he’ll trust you with it. His accent sounds more Chorley or Bolton than Manchester. I’m very local to Chorley (the next town). What a fantastic episode. And don’t be a big girl around rats 😂😂

[@davevernon4993]

I thought similar about the accent, or maybe a subtle mix of all three. The Lancashire twang but with the occasional Mancunian delivery and finish.

[@Dan23_7]

@@davevernon4993 Are you up north ? Im from a town famous for cars, trucks, and busses. Paint too. Im reet proud of our heritage

[@RWL2012]

​@@Dan23_7Leyland

[@dy1987deu]

Also growing up very local to Chorley I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard him speak.

[@davidtyler2622]

I totally agree with you. How fantastic would it be to see this wonderful rarity back on the road. Imagine this and Gor's E9 cruising down the road together! How fabulous that would be.... C'mon Jonny work your magic 😘😘

[@williampresley3000]

Old people telling stories is the greatest thing. Listen to them.

[@e28forever30]

Although he was a bit confused, calling it a “250” and then his brother had a “520” which he took the engine from, which wouldn’t be the correct engine at all…

[@Gnargoyle811]

@@e28forever30 Unnecessary comment…

[@6ettinold]

We lost a elderly neighbour recently. He was in his 90's and had lived in his house since 1956. Rest of the neighbours used to avoid him. I used to stop & chat to him as that is all he wanted to do. The stories he told about the estate, the road & local area was fascinating. He was still switched on & just a lovely old gent.

[@samholdsworth420]

What if the old person is severely racist?

[@samholdsworth420]

What if the old person preaches racist comments?

[@tcaspers]

Methinks BMW needs to buy the car from this lovely chap, give it a proper factory restoration, and then put it into their museum. With the license plate, of course.

[@samholdsworth420]

I wonder if they (bmw) wouldn't care because it's coachbuilt

[@tommarino69]

They should buy it as a reminder of what made them an elite car manufacturer, instead of the mostly awful, chintzy crap they have in their current line up.

[@stephen300o6]

Back in my day.. blah blah.

[@GryphLane]

​@@stephen300o6Modern bimmers are awful looking things though

[@tommarino69]

@@GryphLane yeah, but my guess is he wants to seem edgy and "progressive" so that's why he's being a contrarian bore.

[@kidcowdy1231]

I have emailed car sos and asked them to reach out to you Johnny, this is one of those cars we can’t let sit and rot, and the kind of owner who should keep it. ❤

[@creativeconcept3900]

You'll need to email DIY SOS at the same time to sort the garage out as well in that case

[@kidcowdy1231]

@@creativeconcept3900 I’m sure solutions could be found for that

[@HisMastersAlibi]

Great idea kid

[@MACLAD6666]

Nice one your quite right the man should get to drive this car again and enjoy it as he has protected the car because of the reg plate.

[@timsaxon5825]

This calls for a Late Brake Show/Car SOS cross over episode. Imagine Harry getting the opportunity to drive it again. Wouldn’t be a dry eye in the house.

[@DanielleTaylor-dg7xr]

This would be a dream come true for him ❤️

[@markmac9225]

That'd be incredible!

[@Super-lucky-7777]

100

[@ThePuliUkko]

Car SOS, Have you see rare car? -Yeah, that's mine.

[@chrisadkin726]

Pure class Jonny chatting to the owner with respect and just listening.

[@alandavies1054]

I’ve said it before…Jonny is so respectful to everyone he meets 👍

[@terminal-velocity111]

Jonny, thanks for giving respect to the owner. Other people would skip over the important stuff, it’s good to see you chat to the owner.

[@samholdsworth420]

Johnny is a real one 😊

[@darrenridsdale8121]

Yorkshire car restoration

[@BusThrash]

The story of this car and this man scream Car SOS. I think Johnny should make a phone call, this man deserves it.

[@JR90.]

UPDATE 05/02. I have sent the video link to BMW via Instagram and they have asked for me to tag them in the post/short. The more people that do this, might just make the difference! 🙏 WE, as a community of car enthusiasts, need to get this BMW back on the road! Not only for the car but MOSTLY for Harry. That man deserves to see his car back on the black top. He has given so much to others - to his own detriment, it's about time it was repaid! Jonny, I've sent the video link to BMW.

[@Dan23_7]

Agree 🥰

[@markdawson4625]

Couldn’t have put it better myself

[@andyboardman7428]

Perfectly put 👏 what a story this could make.

[@Riot.g]

Car S.O.S it is 😅

[@michealwoodham822]

Definitely car s o s

[@honda4185]

You gotta talk to CAR S.O.S that they should fix this just running before he passes away or driving to.. would be an awsome CAR S.O.S episode and they work fast to so he hopefully get to see it clean once again.. i bet that's his goal of life atm.!! Plsss do it and make it happend!! Lovley lad and great video👍

[@MattyEngland]

Haven't watched TV for about 6 years now, but Car SOS and the snooker are the 2 things I miss.

[@steventopping106]

Was thinking the same, them guys would do it justice 🖤

[@nicktaylor5273]

I tried to get hold of car sos a few years ago (ps harry is my uncle) they weren’t bothered so I got intouch with Jonny so something might happen now 🤞

[@honda4185]

@@nicktaylor5273 Strange they are then..sad to hear that. If he is ur uncle.. go and fix the roof then and stop water from getting in.. you should have done that those years ago tho. Hope they listen to Jonny now. It's the perfect item for them ffs.

[@sambolton1970]

Tony BMW needs this in his life!! OMG I've not seen an ashtray as big as that on the chair since a pub in the 80's. Great vid again Jonny 👍

[@Dan23_7]

When the smoking ban came in I “found” a John smiths ashtray from one of our locals. I still have it now. I don’t use it, I gave up chuffing 💨 yonks ago

[@deliawolfe]

In my mid-70s, I can fully appreciate the passion still burning in Harry's belly for the car he has refused to part with all these years. I keep thinking what a lovely gesture it would be for the car to undergo a documented, sympathetic restoration -- down to the finest detail -- and honor Harry's years of dedication and custodianship with a motor tour of Manchester and its environs. A comprehensive video would be definitely in order.

[@JambonJovii]

The use of Roland the Rat... 😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 well played sir, well played

[@antonycharnock2993]

People of a certain age are all "RAT FANS! YEEEEEEAH!!!"😂

[@richardgledhill]

Fascinating - I've never even heard of one of those before. Hopefully someone can buy it and bring it back to life. Love the cheeky retro to Roland Rat - Yeeeaaahhhhh.....! Thanks LBS team.

[@jasondullea6120]

I rarely comment on any KZbin videos, but I felt I had to say something. What an amazing person Harry is. When you sat with him and let him tell you about his baby I had a tear in my eye. A real gem of a guy and what a unique car. Your best barn find to date. I would love to see it back on the road. Here’s hoping ❤️

[@dusankocisevic6823]

The moment when Jonny opens up the garage door (🙄🙄😂😂🙏🙏) this is totally CAR SOS.

[@arronjones6985]

This episode absolutely melted my heart. What a guy! Gave up life to take care of his wife. Legend! What a car too.

[@matzo2217]

Quality time and chat with the owner. This sets your films apart. Just fabulous.

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Many thanks

[@mikebull1972]

Bless Harry, and bless you Jonny for just letting him speak. Really hope that lovely car can be rescued from its current situation and find a suitable new home.

[@guycraig2030]

First, thanks for assisting/caring! For your wife all those years,,,i did the same since 1988 to today,,3 Basterdly bouts with Cancer,,oh the books this Gentleman and i could write……As a lifetime car nut now 87,,some things take priority at times…thanks again,,,Great BMW model,,get to there Museum…

[@robswanson1040]

Amazed you didn't put up the batsignal and get TonyBMW involved! He's got the skills and the passion to restore this for sure. Great episode, thanks for sharing Harry!

[@markrowcroft2890]

There's been a couple of videos like this now where you let the owner tell their story and talk about their car and familty. It's a lovely feature and adds a timeless value to the episode and creates a kinda social car history. It's lovely!

[@-CrippledNinja-]

"I love estate cars and hate SUVs" Dude!!! You and me both! I drive a Volvo V50 T5 AWD and my previous one was V40.

[@robbrown6495]

Watching this brought back memories that had me in stitches. Back in 1986 I bought an "L" reg BMW 2500. Though just the standard 4 door saloon it was a lovely car. About a month after I'd bought it, on a cold winter's morning in Northumberland, it was playing up, and I was going to be late for work - something the Air Force tended to frown upon. A neighbour popped his head into the scene and suggested I take off the air filter and "let it breathe", which I duly did. We cranked it over and a huge flame shot out the top of the top of the carburetor and set fire to the bonnet liner. Essentially, 37 years later, I'm just so happy to hear that I was not the only one. Cheers Harry - you made my day mate! Though I do think it's about time car companies started taking responsibility for the "quirks" of their cars.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

"On a cold wet day here in Manchester"...well that doesn't really narrow it down does it...could be any day of the year.

[@frog-eye1420]

Yes no way will Manchester be able to level up with the weather in the South even with a high speed rail link 😂😂😂

[@benjaminrappit]

Total facts haha, as I look out the window... Buckets down

[@budhafred]

The boot struts still work!!! My e61 boot struts hold the boot up for 20 seconds before it falls down on my head

[@nanobis]

Aww I'm so Happy this Video has finally come and sharing Harry's car story. I knew that one day you'd be doing a Barnfind Video on it, and when my wife spied you and the Honda Element on the steet and said said someone was filming nextdoor, I knew it was happening. I'm just gutted that I didn't get home in time and only missed you leaving by probably less than 5mins. And I would like to apologise for my daft Kiwi Wife if she was little overwhelming trying to stall you leaving. She still taunts me with the Selfie she grabbed with you. 😂.

[@newarkjr2893]

Another simply brilliant video Jonny. What a legend Harry is. His love of his family, and his cars is so abundantly clear from the interview. How many times have we all said ‘it’s my baby’ when referring to a car? People who aren’t into cars just wouldn’t understand. I’m sure the Late Brake community will find the perfect new home for the E3, one that will do it, and Harry’s passion justice. Also, more Roland Rat please 😂

[@DanielleTaylor-dg7xr]

He sure is a legend❤️ and we love him more than anything, we would love to see it restored and see the smile and tears on his face 🥰

[@bjk6994]

Sunday morning at the gym watching Jonny and a barn find, so good. Thanks for doing these.

[@markdawson4625]

What a lovely gent, and what a gem of a car. Hopefully someone will love it and restore it.

[@nicktaylor5273]

He is harry is my uncle I’ve said he needs to sell it for years as it’s just rotting away. Hopefully someone will buy and do a great job of restoring it

[@nolansdavid]

I cannot fathom what a BMW enthusiast might pay for that plate but I like that Harry has principles and it's not just about money.

[@jondonnelly3]

he still let a nice car rot and i'd tell him that to his face and i really hope he gets it restored and i don't agree with his principles a reg is just a number and he should sell it to fund the car restoration.

[@benhooper1956]

What a jaw droppingly special car and a super nice owner (with a fantastic taste in jumpers). Harry is absolutely right to insist that the number stays with the car, because as much as there are those who say "it's my car I can do what I want with it" these cars have an identity all of their own and we should respect that. It was galling to see the state it is in but I totally understand how tragic strife in other areas of life can put a stop to these sorts of things. I know there is someone out there who can resurrect this car and do justice to its custodian's passion. Great video Jonny, hope the rat didn't haunt you too much

[@apaterson8891]

I think you should get in touch with the guys at Car SOS and try to get it fully restored for Harry. Got to be worth saving due to its rarity and to see Harry use it again. If there was ever a project worth doing….

[@chrisliddell2727]

I'd love it if we could follow the ongoing story of this car. And as others have said, Harry's memories of the car, and passion for it.... just truly wonderful to hear.

[@adamclark6756]

Lovely video and car. I hope someone can buy it and restore it. What a brilliant project for a KZbin channel!

[@Lucan-ve6zc]

Oh, one of the joys of a Sunday. Thanks Jonny.

[@dennisarkwell2874]

many thanks to Harry for sharing his treasure.. And to Jonny for digging it out..

[@rhysparker6504]

Can’t add anything that hasn’t been said, other than to say it’s Jonny’s honesty and humility make this channel for me. Many a presenter would get a ‘team’ to clear out the garage, but he just gets on with it. 👏

[@alextripp1230]

Hi Jonny.. Tony BMW restoration for sure..!! What a rare car, great video. Alex.

[@abc-yq4cv]

I am a German Petrol Head !! I never heard of this Car !! I Love it !!

[@Damien-bi6ng]

Wonderful barn find video, as always. The thing I love about these are the stories behind them. The cars are always interesting, but the relatable stories more so. Worth the patronage!👏

[@Jay-B1750]

That's dedication forging on despite rodents and damp! It was so nice to hear from the owner, alot of content creators talk over people, but you dont, would be lovely if the community could come together in order to get it sorted for Harry.

[@Sirsethtaggart3505]

That Rolls estate looked epic

[@Lucan-ve6zc]

AS does the Jag.

[@areyouserious3092]

What a lovely guy Harry is. Knowing what a fantastic place the car community is im sure that car will be back on the road complete with plate in no time.

[@italsounds001]

It would be great to see this back on the road one day, a true unicorn. I think the first ‘touring’ model was the 2002, 1971 or 72, but I guess that could be called the first hot hatch.

[@samfield3773]

This car and story would make a perfect episode on Car SOS… it needs to be saved

[@nickstones5583]

Wow we had a BMW 2500 when l was a teenager what a beutiful machine. Love the coachbuilt estate and it works so well as some dont including the Rover P6. Haha. I wish l could afford to buy this rare old girl alas l cant so all l hope is that someone out there can and will buy and restore it. ❤

[@xbodyrocker]

this bmw would look amazing restored could listen to old car guys like Harry telling stories all day and you treat him with such respect

[@Lot76CARS]

Brilliant, Jonny, love the rarity of this car as well as the brilliant backstory and interview with the current owner. It makes compelling viewing. I really hope we see this car back to its former glory.

[@stuartblack9258]

Harry is an absolute ledgend !❤ the car is crying out to be restored back to its former glory would be quite easily one of the rarest cars not only BMW on the road today!❤ thankyou Harry for sharing this with us!!!

[@johngoodwin1710]

The squeaky garage door is the perfect intro to this 😄

[@jonburrough1452]

What a humbling episode. Thank you as ever for the story, this time of Harry. As others have said, he gave so much of his time. It ought to be properly repaid if that’s even possible. Somehow, this is what this unicorn deserves. In their overlapping lifetimes obvs. Go well Jonny!

[@ChrisFEJackson]

What a guy Johnny, loved the number plate and good for him not to sell it. A man after my own heart. Plus loved the 70's glass ashtray on the arm of his chair :) Bless him. Thanks for doing these Johnny!

[@WPD77]

Number plate cannot be sold or removed as the car has no mot.

[@ChrisFEJackson]

@@WPD77 Thanks for that, yeah of course, probably why the fraud squad picked up on it in 2,000's

[@bigchopper14]

It may not be as hands on as the usual barn finds, which are always interesting, it was really special to hear about the cars unique history, and really interesting to hear how it came to be there for so many years from its its owner.

[@TheGramophoneGirl]

Townsend Thoresen, wow there's a blast from the past.

[@johnj3577]

Sailed with them many a time to France and back when I was a kid. Always thought of them as a slightly posher ferry compared to Brittany Ferries. Happy days!

[@richardsmiths518]

This is truly one of the best episodes, you the car and the owner Harry

[@sebastiend.5335]

On your own today Jonny? Respect! Greetings from the Netherlands

[@tonypage1056]

Looks a perfect Car SOS project for Fuzz & Tim! What a lovely car that could be!

[@АнтонБегунов-п1р]

It feel like an old man and old car come a such long way as Bilbo Baggins and a Ring, supporting each other by unmeasurable force of passion Long live Harry Taylor and his 25L unicorn p.s. Harry looks exactly like Jacques-Yves Cousteau

[@limitingfactor3648]

this needs a Car SOS intervention crossover, fuzz and the lads would be fully on board

[@tonymontana897]

Amazing find Johnny. The clock is ticking on it though. It needs to be rescued asap before it rots to pieces in that swamp hole of a shed. It's so sad to see it reduced to this.

[@johnarch6876]

Wasted due to procrastination. Undeserving owner for me.

[@cornishrider]

Thank you Johnny for including the interview with Harry, what great guy. (What was his logic for an estate only for towing though?) The E28 Touring is stunning and the Lynx Eventer just gets better with age especially in the final phase cars.

[@tvanderwheels3292]

This needs a part two with Tony BMW

[@cameronphillips2518]

If I had a restoration business I’d do it for free for Harry. A car like this deserves to be show to the public at car shows and Harry would want that.. I really hope someone buys it!!

[@wearetomorrowspast.5617]

I do love a BMW estate. Didn't know about these ones. So cool.

[@andrewsanjayprasad]

What a car, absolutely incredible to find such a rarity. But the story and Harry behind it are so much more. I couldn’t agree with the overwhelming sentiment here in the comments, this car needs restoring as soon as possible for him to see drive again

[@AnagramAutoclassics]

Jonny Smith's Take Your Pick! Sorry, I couldn't resist. Yes, let's get it restored. Maybe the Allegro genii can help, too? Have your boots dried out yet?

[@timbrown8581]

Jonny, this car needs you and you need this car! What a KZbin project! Get rid of your other cars (except for your VW of course) and take it on! Supporting you from Australia 🇦🇺. Another great episode mate,

[@russellmalone3532]

Very nice project. Only wish I had the funds and the space. Hope it goes to the right person. Another great video Jonny

[@davewatts7444]

Watched this last night and Harry sounded just like my dad (who was born in Manchester) and loved cars all his life. Harry just sitting there, everything just so matter of fact with a car so rare dying in his Marley garage. It needs to be restored nay must be restored you are the man please as soon as you can❤

[@besenzon1]

What a shame the garage leaks 😔 Where is Tony BMW ? Sad story , great candidate for Car SOS. Would be great for Harry to see it back on the road.

[@peterriggall8409]

Can of Hope not much good in this instance. ☹

[@derrymilk8535]

@@peterriggall8409can of lost hope needed

[@papapetad]

Pretty cool to see headlining that lasts several decades longer than new factory ones... Such a neat car. Totally needs a resto along with the garage. Get some money together for a solid offer, get it built ASAP and take the man for a ride.

[@rushja]

I can't be the only one that feels anxious for leaving this car in a wet garage? I bet if there was a crowd fund to restore this it would have already been fulfilled!

[@micheltebraake7915]

What a great find Jonny. With all the BMW restoration specialists together, it should be possible to get this special Touring back on the road so that Harry can drive it one more time before he goes to his wife. ​

[@40spinup]

Sounds like a job for Car SOS! Just want to jump in and lend a hand, poor Jonny. Stupid question….. what IS a Shooting Brake? Just a coach built estate? “Find another!!”

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Shooting brake is usually 2 door

[@nicholasgreenough567]

I'll second that @40spinup, this gentleman deserves to be Sosaged!

[@Dan23_7]

Google it mate, I looked it up a bit ago, it gets the name from literally going shooting for game and having space for the guns.

[@alanbell4097]

Was just about to say the same about cars sos. Would be ace to see the bloke drive it again

[@oliabid-price4517]

Originally a Shooting brake was a custom built car for carrying country gents' shotguns etc around their private estates for shooting events. That is why they have the long rear storage capacity. Hence the term 'estate car'.

[@freerkderuiter8822]

That is a great find. I've seen an Schulz E28 estate, but never an E3 conversion. My first car was an E30 Touring, which I kept for 9 nine years. I have good memories of it. I hope this car gets restored to its former glory.

[@adrgraphics]

Now this is the one I was truly waiting for!!! Brings my childhood back! Ok we didn’t have this touring but dad have a few E3 saloons and a E9 from 1972 to 1978, loved those cars!! Though personally I would have described the E3 as the predecessor to the 7series not so much the 5 series. Certainly on the 3.0s and 3.0si the running gear was the same as the 3.0cs and 3.0csi. Interesting back then when new and nearly new, the saloon was about half the cost as the coupe.

[@Julianpms]

Agreed on the model history. The predecessor to the 5 Series was the Neue Klasse saloon range, which evolved from 1800 to 2000 (and 2000 Tilux with fuel injection).

[@davidtyler2622]

Omg! WOW!!! Another amazing episode Jonny... What a find! That car needs to be put back together without a doubt. We need to see this and Gor's E9 rolling together. How fantastic would that be. C'mon Jonny this is too rare to pass up.... I bet youve alteady had phone calls and working those contacts. 😉👍🏻

[@nicktaylor5273]

Thanks Jonny you did my uncle harry a good service, and if anyone buys it they have to a mascot of a rat in it lol

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Nick, many thanks for getting in touch with the channel to let us know of Harry's unicorn.

[@badgersalesman5595]

Top work as always. I think the car is beyond saving though.

[@ThibauTM]

Don't think so but it's hard to tell with it being stuck in the garage. Certainly not a light restoration job !

[@MrManBuzz]

There's definitely enough of it there to not make it "beyond saving" but it'd be a huge undertaking, and an expensive one at that.

[@anthonyhawkins9239]

Another wonderful episode, with another wonderful owner giving us a some great back stories 👍🏻, please Jonny follow this cars next journey 👍🏻, I am sure you know a few good people who would do the right thing 😉, owner of the beast might be tempted ?

[@Klutch58Customs]

There's a rat in my E3, what am i gonna do?..

[@marcbaur677]

Tame it, cause you love the same things. 😃

[@Klutch58Customs]

@@marcbaur677 a real 'rat rod' ?!

[@marcbaur677]

@@Klutch58Customs i like Rat Rods much more than Hot Rods.

[@VMfever]

This was a predecessor to the 7 series actually! Amazing find!

[@who_stole_my_username]

That's not a barn, that's Harry's garage.

[@bigjoe4020]

I really hope that you will start doing follow up videos on this channel. There have been SO MANY barn finds where I like to know how they were restored and what they look like now. THIS would be one of those cars ...

[@cgee3999]

Quote of the year “creature or spores I don’t want it near my mouth😂”

[@yorkshirecarrestoration]

Very unique car. Harry is such a nice chap. How much we talking 💷 💰?

[@KenLukar]

Make it happen guys. Harry and the rest of us would love to follow the restoration journey 👏👏👏👏

[@samholdsworth420]

Another one? 😂 Johnny cant be stopped at this point ☝🏻 Cheers mate! Thanks mate, bye!!

[@IDontKnowWhatImDoingDIY]

For a '73 car it's amazing how modern it looks. It could be from the 80s or 90s. It's amazing how good BMW design used to be. Maybe modern BMWs are ahead of their time as well. Maybe beavers will be huge in the 2040s.

[@brianpalmer5223]

What a machine Yorkshire car restorers need this one :-)

[@Thegeordiemonkey]

Much rather see these stories over all the rich folk with plenty cash and multiple motors, cannot beat down to earth people who hold on to 1 or 2 cars for donkeys years, i hope he gets it restored and gets to enjoy it.

[@HowardLeVert]

My sentiments exactly - less of the "Oh, I've got one in my garage in Monaco" please.

[@Geo_art_RC]

Great programme. I dont even care that you didn't get it started or even out of the garage. What a wee gentleman, id love to see his face if someone got it going again.

[@nostreamavailable9090]

Thank f**k it's not another ford

[@Tiaan90]

I do think the first BMW wearing a touring badge was the 2002 touring, although it's a hatchback. Yet a really cool car! Great episode Jonny! Lovely owner, hope he finds the right buyer!

[@iainweller452]

What a lovely guy could listen to him all day, wonderful car, someone somewhere wants that car

[@jimtaylor431]

M539 Restorations......... would love to see Sreten take this on!

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

Another fantastic Barnfind episode Jonny, and what a gent the owner is, BMW or Car SOS or Gary Mavers from Classic Obsession really need to restore this BMW for the owner.

[@Plymouthstation1985]

Top work Jonny a truly rare find one for Yorkshire car restorations would be an amazing feature hopefully it finds its way to the right owner to restore and cherish it for the next 40 years

[@twcmaker]

This needs saving.. Oh my life. I'm not a BMW fan but this could be brilliant again. Would be great for Harry to sell and see it restored.

[@timm9631]

We had a dark red '74 3.0si as our first car when we moved back to Germany in late 1985. That car was SO COOL. Thanks for sharing this, and I hope whoever buys it not only restores it, but shares the process. Please let us know if they do.