GNOME 46 REVIEW: the shape of things to come!

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@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 8 ай бұрын
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@WaldirPimenta
@WaldirPimenta 8 ай бұрын
About 9:41, the usefulness of not showing an animation when switching between images is to allow comparing two very similar images (e.g. two versions of a design) to check what is different between them. With the animation it's very hard to notice just the changes, especially if they are small.
@lx2222x
@lx2222x 8 ай бұрын
On the other side, without animation you don't know fully if you have switched the picture (if they are very similar or the same)
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
For image comparison, the Identity application is probably more appropriate 🤔
@hammadbawara
@hammadbawara 8 ай бұрын
​@@lx2222xYou can determine if the image has changed by looking at the title bar.
@hammadbawara
@hammadbawara 8 ай бұрын
But this can be done by adding a new shortcut for switching between photos without animation.
@CRCinAU
@CRCinAU 8 ай бұрын
@@Okki666No, no it isn't. Try going through 600+ CCTV snapshots and tell me how well your suggestion works out.....
@raidev_
@raidev_ 8 ай бұрын
5:08 i literally cheered at this part
@WaldirPimenta
@WaldirPimenta 8 ай бұрын
Same here! I wonder what took them so long?
@joshuapettus6973
@joshuapettus6973 8 ай бұрын
He wasn't kidding, you could stop the video there. That's huge!
@stephm0
@stephm0 8 ай бұрын
We are officially living in the future now
@burnt_666
@burnt_666 8 ай бұрын
wasn’t there a setting you could change that allowed this? pretty sure i’ve been doing this for a long time.
@raidev_
@raidev_ 8 ай бұрын
@@burnt_666 no afaik
@jannikmeissner
@jannikmeissner 8 ай бұрын
Variable refresh rate also helps with battery life: If nothing is moving, you can go down significantly, which then consumes less power.
@hundvd_7
@hundvd_7 8 ай бұрын
I'm honestly not sure it will matter _that_ much. Most of the power screens use comes from the backlight. I assume the screen would use maybe 30% less power at 10fps vs 144fps
@mearetom
@mearetom 8 ай бұрын
Still a improvement, it will be worth it in long term for battery life
@TheJackiMonster
@TheJackiMonster 8 ай бұрын
For your typical desktop there's most of the time a cursor which is moving. That's also the reason why VRR got delayed for so long. In full screen games which hide your cursor, VRR should do fine. But on your desktop, you don't want your cursor to lag because of the lowered refresh rate. For touch screen devices without pointer and cursor this might help though. However I think current Linux phones do not have screens which support VRR. But for the future it's definitely a benefit.
@mushie1221
@mushie1221 8 ай бұрын
@@hundvd_7that'd be amazing considering my laptop gets 45 mins without a power cord. Razerblade pro 17"
@shlokshah5379
@shlokshah5379 7 ай бұрын
Battery life in linux sucks anyway cause most laptops aren't designed around it.
@hubofeverything
@hubofeverything 8 ай бұрын
The lack of animations for the image viewer is perfect for comparing between two images, and it was the default behavior in eog, the former gnome image viewer implementation. It's very helpful in my workflow for art.
@itsthem5699
@itsthem5699 8 ай бұрын
Good post
@Hr1s7i
@Hr1s7i 7 ай бұрын
I just realised why your videos feel so professional. It's because you're stood up instead of sat down. It makes a world of difference. Kudos to you, good sir!
@MrHyde911
@MrHyde911 8 ай бұрын
This release had a lot of work done in the background stuff.. More in the usability rather than any fancy appearance changes. Nice to see more desktops focusing on actual things that matter.
@PHDWhom
@PHDWhom 7 ай бұрын
Like being able to set a recurring biweekly appointment in Calendar. Is it possible I’m Gnome 46?
@MrHyde911
@MrHyde911 7 ай бұрын
@@PHDWhom vrr, accessibility, file manager improvements, performance improvements. Have you even watched the video?
@PHDWhom
@PHDWhom 7 ай бұрын
@@MrHyde911 yes I watched the video. Am I required to only ask questions that were in the video?
@xander_vh
@xander_vh 8 ай бұрын
I can finally properly watch the 50hz videos with GNOME vrr support.
@arkhikun
@arkhikun 8 ай бұрын
is this why I'm constantly having flickering watching netflix?
@TVPInterpolation
@TVPInterpolation 8 ай бұрын
​@@arkhikun could be a mix of improper vrr + weird driver behaviour.
@aqua-bery
@aqua-bery 8 ай бұрын
Why are they 50hz lol
@RickyBobbyGetEm
@RickyBobbyGetEm 8 ай бұрын
​@@aqua-bery This channel's preferred fps for videos is 50 for some reason, they're referencing that
@lemonofish869
@lemonofish869 8 ай бұрын
@@RickyBobbyGetEmEven though PAL vs NTSC is no longer relevant in the digital world, 50 fps is often still preferred for video production in Europe.
@ArefinKarim
@ArefinKarim 8 ай бұрын
One thing GNOME is behind is the lack of track-pad scroll sensitivity, this is the thing that GNOME devs still could not fix (atleast on wayland), KDE's google drive integration in plasma 6 is horrible, says that folder does not exist.
@littleharry7977
@littleharry7977 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this version for soooo long it’s finally here! They improved tons of stuff this time around!
@LymanPhillips
@LymanPhillips 8 ай бұрын
And this is why i love GNOME - continual improvement. Plus keyboard shortcut support.
@LarixusSnydes
@LarixusSnydes 8 ай бұрын
Now if they would only allow you to use a sensible settings menu that is optimised for Desktop use instead of imitating Android and presenting us with silly pill buttons that waste space and uselessly dividing the settings into pages on a full size desktop. I'm not viewing this on a phone screen, so improve the user experience based on the actual environment!
@LymanPhillips
@LymanPhillips 8 ай бұрын
@@LarixusSnydes funny you should say that. I've always said that GNOME is easier to understand if you think about it like a mobile phone metaphor, rather than a desktop metaphor.
@DS6Prophet
@DS6Prophet 8 ай бұрын
I'm a permanent XFCE4 user for my Linux DEs, but I do enjoy watching these videos, just to see what's up with the rest of the DEs. Good to see both KDE & GNOME getting better & better so frequently! Nice video, as usual, Nick!😊
@wallflxw
@wallflxw 8 ай бұрын
Hi 👋 How long have you been using XFCE? Because I've been using it for about a few days and wonder if it's OK for me because I love simplicity and stability, I want to hear back from an old XFCE user
@dorgeshuun
@dorgeshuun 8 ай бұрын
​@@wallflxwI have been using xubuntu for years now. I find it great.
@elyzsabethahne2116
@elyzsabethahne2116 8 ай бұрын
Same here--although, in my case, I'm using Budgie DE on Ubuntu.
@DS6Prophet
@DS6Prophet 8 ай бұрын
@@wallflxw Hello! I've been using it for a bit over 2 years now. It's very simplistic and stable and a very clean environment to work with! The only way it'll break is if you accidentally mess up something on your GPU driver, or you break one of the basic system packages! Hope you'll enjoy your experience on XFCE! Welcome to the club!☺
@Shadowzz.
@Shadowzz. 7 ай бұрын
I love xfce but I can't use X11. Wayland all the way for me.
@lukafireman
@lukafireman 8 ай бұрын
8:02 You can login with your personal microsoft account! Proceeds to show an error page x'D
@themedleb
@themedleb 8 ай бұрын
I like it when this happens to Microsoft products
@consensai
@consensai 8 ай бұрын
This is just a way to introduce you to Microsoft world
@Shadowzz.
@Shadowzz. 7 ай бұрын
​@user-vz6rhjust because you don't care doesn't mean it's not useful 🤦
@Beryesa.
@Beryesa. 8 ай бұрын
TBH, best changes in 40 series are the ones they walked back their stubbornnes from Gnome 3 Now we can finally forget Ctrl+L xD
@CRCinAU
@CRCinAU 8 ай бұрын
Unless you want to change a shortcut key. You're still not allowed to do that in the majority of the apps.
@alperenisa
@alperenisa 8 ай бұрын
mrb
@hundvd_7
@hundvd_7 8 ай бұрын
5:54 yeees I am pretty new to Linux. Switched maybe 3 months ago. (Though I did use Gnome back in like 2014 for work, have had a Deck since day 1, and I've been occasionally trying to jump ship throughout the years) This was probably the one thing that directly cost me the most headache. Right click | Extract "Oh, it'd done already. I can now move it to where I wanted it." > 5 minutes later "What the hell did I do wrong? This does not look normal and nothing works!" Which was all just because I didn't notice that unzipping took more than 3 seconds. Because that loading indicator is just garbage. It's so hard to notice unless you are specifically looking for it
@The8BitPianist
@The8BitPianist 8 ай бұрын
the "verified" badge for an officially packaged flatpak should be in every app store!
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
Shame you have to click on an app to see it, where you can already see who published it haha
@The8BitPianist
@The8BitPianist 8 ай бұрын
@@bvd_vlvdIt's just better design to have it straight visible
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
@@bvd_vlvd Packages supplied by Linux distributions are not official, and on Flathub, the Flatpaks can also be managed by the community. So it was important to have a simple way of distinguishing official packages from the rest. What is a shame is that they did not add an option allowing, when there are several sources for the same application, to select the official version by default rather than having to switch to Flathub ourselves in the hope to find an official version there.
@Root__314
@Root__314 7 ай бұрын
Imagine if they start handing out the “verified” badge for $8. Musk really killed Twitter
@als_pals
@als_pals 5 ай бұрын
I feel like they're not that useful tbh. It doesn't mean the app has been vetted in any way, just that the person who published it has a domain 🤷🏼‍♀️
@panagiotisgalinos1335
@panagiotisgalinos1335 8 ай бұрын
I really wanna a Gnome 46 vs KDE 6 comparison video
@flintstone1409
@flintstone1409 8 ай бұрын
For the image viewer only animating switching when using the in-app buttons: Sometimes, if I need to compare two similar images, I switch between them quite a lot to spot differences, moving them makes this really hard. By switching without animation (at least for the keyboard) this makes finding such differences a lot easier.
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
You should try the Identity application, designed to compare multiple images, with useful features such as the ability to zoom in on different images simultaneously.
@Claude_Lib
@Claude_Lib 8 ай бұрын
I for one actually welcome the snappy transition in Loupe, because I frequently have cases where I have to compare two images visually by pressing left and right to switch between them and the sliding animation actually gets in the way.
@Druizdealegria
@Druizdealegria 7 ай бұрын
lol, I knew I wasn't the only one doing that!
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
8:06 Does that mean I won't need Evolution to sync my Vivaldi calendar with the Notification calendar? That's HUGE
@francescodlx
@francescodlx 8 ай бұрын
Tried an early Gnome 46 pre-release, wayland only, just last week on real hardware, and I found it more performing than the previous release (some issues were still present then). Kde plasma 6 works surprisingly well with wayland. In my opinion, both wayland versions can be used daily by many users (considered that it will not be an option anymore in the future).
@AndersHass
@AndersHass 7 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean by the monitor catching up. But the simple thing with VRR is syncing the refresh rate of the monitor with the framerate from the game as long as the game is under the maximum refresh rate of the monitor. Otherwise you can lock it to the maximum refresh rate to avoid tearing or let it tear (which you probably won’t notice at such high refresh/frame rates). So the great thing about VRR is basically having the same latency as with tearing but avoid tearing at lower framerates. Where other syncing techniques would increase latency (along with other issues) thereby wasn't used and people just accepted tearing for lowest possible latency.
@diegosalgo
@diegosalgo 8 ай бұрын
Gnome is beautifull, my favourite UI
@tckoppang
@tckoppang 8 ай бұрын
Oh, come on! I didn't even know about ctrl+l for the location bar! How is that discoverable?! Happy to hear they are adding mouse support there. EDIT: I see it's listed in the menu for keyboard shortcuts. Why wouldn't they at least make it part of the drop-down menu? Grrrrrrrr....
@rueeggerme
@rueeggerme 8 ай бұрын
Ctrl+L is a universal Shortcut. Works in Windows Explorer, in every Browser (on every OS) 😅
@tckoppang
@tckoppang 8 ай бұрын
@@rueeggermeDoesn't make it easily discoverable, though. Even if, like me, you know the shortcut from the web browser, you still have to make the connection between a web browser and a file browser. I just wish menus were more helpful.
@akeem2983
@akeem2983 7 ай бұрын
I also just assumed that Nautilus is just incapable to do this
@kraften4534
@kraften4534 8 ай бұрын
So excited for improved fractional scaling!
@Druizdealegria
@Druizdealegria 7 ай бұрын
About the change in loupe (image viewer). I didn't like it having the animation, as I take screenshots to compare stuff from time to time and switch between images quickly to spot the changes. Might be a weird use case, but this solves it for me. I liked it having an animation anyway, as I understood that the focus was on normal users and better experience. So this solution is great for both cases
@poweruser64
@poweruser64 7 ай бұрын
9:41 - I'm so glad the change to the animation was made in the image viewer! It may seem small, but it makes comparing similar copies of an image MUCH easier. The animation is fun for general purpose use, but for anything where you need to compare or go through a lot of images quickly (cough cough professional photography), the animation _really_ gets in the way.
@markridlen4380
@markridlen4380 8 ай бұрын
I'm probably most excited about Remote Desktop
@GCTWorks
@GCTWorks 8 ай бұрын
These kind of updates are great. Gnome 46 and Plasma 6 will both go a long way to make the Desktop Environments have the level of polish that the likes of Windows and Mac OS supposedly have. This combined with distribution adoption will be an easier sell to users that are looking for Mac OS and Windows alternatives.
@donkey7921
@donkey7921 8 ай бұрын
At 4:20, you could always use super+ to launch from the dash, I don't get it, they changed it to ctrl+super+?
@cr4h4n
@cr4h4n 8 ай бұрын
It's still super+, but ctrl+super+ launches a new instance of the app instead of focussing on the already opened window.
@donkey7921
@donkey7921 8 ай бұрын
@@cr4h4n oh, got it thanks!
@SolidSt8Dj
@SolidSt8Dj 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, Gnome 46 is probably the first version of Gnome I would ever consider recommending. Not saying it was necessarily bad previously, but in order to get my personal recommendation, it simply wasn't there.
@15bleach51
@15bleach51 8 ай бұрын
Still waiting for multiple hot corners, compact view mode for files in the file manager, DASH TO PANEL functionality, global menu integration for professional apps such as Gimp, Ardour
@doblefazz
@doblefazz 8 ай бұрын
are they ever gonna add the option highlight hidden folders, like reducing the opacity of the icons like in Dolphin or Windows? I don't know how this is still not a feature
@SirRFI
@SirRFI 8 ай бұрын
I'd wish to see XWayland Video Bridge or other solution to make X11 apps be able to screenshare on Wayland GNOME.
@forrestorange
@forrestorange 8 ай бұрын
I liked the little circle for file transfers :((
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
Bet there's gonna be an extension that brings it back akin to "app menu is back" for Gnome 45 I'm kinda glad they moved it though, makes left side close button a bit more viable, although I bet it will still move the app name and make it ugly
@Abu_Shawarib
@Abu_Shawarib 8 ай бұрын
It's an arc now for every operation
@CleverFalkes
@CleverFalkes 6 ай бұрын
Gnome GUI > Windows GUI, hands down. It keeps getting better and better. I love the "cartoon" design too so much.
@MrMarcetLP
@MrMarcetLP 8 ай бұрын
6:05 what do you mean with "it's much easier to change a folder icon"? You already could do this by simply clicking on the folder icon (in the properties dialog) They just added an icon, which is nice, but the function isn't new at all. Anyway great video as (nearly) always. Keep it going Nick!
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
It's just easier to discover this possibility or to undo the change.
@nicholasmoffett4327
@nicholasmoffett4327 8 ай бұрын
9:50 this makes sense to me; users who are using the visible navigation buttons are more likely to want visual feedback like that while browsing their images, while users who use the arrow keys may find the lack of visual feedback more useful (e.g. minute differences between photos, segments of an animation, etc.)
@s9209122222
@s9209122222 8 ай бұрын
They must implement HDR in Gnome 47
@646464mario
@646464mario 7 ай бұрын
I wasn’t expecting Nautilus to have so many improvements! I was used to using ctrl + l but I always found it strange that I couldn’t just click the path to edit it. Glad to see them adding a lot more features while keeping the interface clean and simple.
@nelpiper
@nelpiper 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@iodreamify
@iodreamify 8 ай бұрын
Some really good leaps forward! I just wish i could get used to the gnome workflow vs always minimizing apps😭
@KCKingcollin
@KCKingcollin 8 ай бұрын
I just recently switched to daily driving gnome coming from kde, I'm really glad to see more improvement in these subtle areas as I tend to notice them more than I feel like most would
@udynes4457
@udynes4457 7 ай бұрын
Gnome must focus on "click and done". Wanna a new theme? Click and done. Wanna new icons? Click and done. That's what all users want and like.
@akeem2983
@akeem2983 7 ай бұрын
Most desirable for me - want to make a desktop entry for an appimage or an executable file? Click and done
@MaidenLoaf
@MaidenLoaf 7 ай бұрын
​@@akeem2983right? It wouldn't be hard to build that in to Nautilus. Open an AppImage and have a prompt to just run or else install to /opt and create a desktop entry.
@MohammadAl-Mukdad
@MohammadAl-Mukdad 8 ай бұрын
They should make gnome highly customizable out of the box without extensions, this time is enough for Ubuntu developer to realize that gnome community loves customization
@OlgierdvonEverec-ul4te
@OlgierdvonEverec-ul4te 7 ай бұрын
sponsors advertising on point, thats exactly what I was looking for. thx
@magic_nanito
@magic_nanito 8 ай бұрын
good changes, but still not default terminal setting 😢
@MrAlanCristhian
@MrAlanCristhian 8 ай бұрын
I can't wait to try this on debian 13 stable.
@twiggy749
@twiggy749 8 ай бұрын
I love Gnome 46. I suppose it is being released to be ready with Ubuntu 24.04 😊🎉
@wolfisraging
@wolfisraging 8 ай бұрын
no desktop environment can compete for consistency with gnome!!! PERIOD.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 8 ай бұрын
This is said like its a bombshell game winner but... ok? Id much rather high usability, reasonable defaults qnd decent customizability. Gnome sacrifices so much for "clean" asthetics and "uniformity"
@wolfisraging
@wolfisraging 8 ай бұрын
@@BeefIngot name me one thing which you can do in any other desktop environment but cannot replicate same in gnome? We're talking about linux, DUH! Reason why Gnome game is better, because whatever Gnome sacrifices for "clean" anesthetics and "uniformity" can be added either manually or using already premade-easy-simple tools. But if you think you can bring Gnome like consistency in your KDE mess, yeah good luck with that.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 8 ай бұрын
@@wolfisraging Gnome actively states that removing options is a goal of theirs. Also in line with that, extensions dont count due to that because they want to eventually remove them (and they also break every update). Also, they first removed always visible window titles on the dock. Mass efficiency drop requiring extra presses to see them vs simply clicking the one you want. Very anti linux freedom
@wolfisraging
@wolfisraging 8 ай бұрын
@@BeefIngot now name one desktop environment which doesn’t break some of its functionalities every new release… take a look at your KDE 6, it’s a hell right now, watch brodie’s video on it
@wolfisraging
@wolfisraging 8 ай бұрын
Very anti Linux? Do you know gnome is made with the biggest capital investment by far as compared to any other desktop environment till this date?
@smivan.
@smivan. 7 ай бұрын
5:15 Wow, after many years of using nautilis this is the first time I'm hearing of CTRL+L, wish I knew that before.
@Destide
@Destide 8 ай бұрын
No more rsync onedrives? Makes my work setup so much easier
@plainoldcheese
@plainoldcheese 7 ай бұрын
Let's hope evince gets some love next time. Annotations in both really need an upgrade
@archip8021
@archip8021 8 ай бұрын
I really wanted to like it. It looks and feels great, but in 30 min i run into 10 things i want to change, but can't. Went back to plasma
@ordinaryhuman5645
@ordinaryhuman5645 8 ай бұрын
Are KDE people just broken inside, so they want to break perfectly fine things around them?
@archip8021
@archip8021 8 ай бұрын
@@ordinaryhuman5645 I shape my whole computer experience to be what I want. That's the freedom Linux gives us. If you don't have any personal preferences you can use gnome
@alexb8969
@alexb8969 8 ай бұрын
Same here :-)
@lostdisplay
@lostdisplay 8 ай бұрын
10:58 While the port to GTK4 is nice, I don't see why you should ever use GNOMEs System Monitor when Mission Center exists. Which is just better and fancier in every way.
@GambuSaur
@GambuSaur 8 ай бұрын
True.
@poweruser64
@poweruser64 7 ай бұрын
I like that System Monitor lets you set the history time to big numbers like 10 minutes, as opposed to Mission Center. I let it run in the background and collect data, which helps me gain more insight into what's going on in my system. Mission Center is good too, but doesn't provide some of these niceties.
@xastordoteth
@xastordoteth 8 ай бұрын
Thanks man, I love these update videos... Go GNOME!!
@DrOptix
@DrOptix 8 ай бұрын
I wonder when will they fix RDP to not require a different user or your own user to not pe logged in. The Windows implementation of local and RDP sessions management is something Microsoft did super good.
@AstralPhnx
@AstralPhnx 7 ай бұрын
Very excited to see this come to Fedora. Always been a GNOME fan so this is super exciting
@rhysmuir
@rhysmuir 8 ай бұрын
@5:56 the fact the "arrow" doesn't match up to the info popup is a bit annoying.. I thought it might be a issue with the pc it was recorded on, but the release notes screen shot has it too..
@betaplay2914
@betaplay2914 8 ай бұрын
gnome is slowly but surely getting better and better, i just wish they will make good looking sound mixer i miss eartrumpet from windows
@maycherryblossoms
@maycherryblossoms 6 ай бұрын
I am a KDE user but I follow GNOME and I used to use it on my other laptop (Plasma on my main PC) but I switched to Plasma on both... I love seeing GNOME improve and get better, I think they do great work even if I don't like their vision of removing customization or features
@chinmayghule8272
@chinmayghule8272 8 ай бұрын
I hope the Gnome team makes the Gnome Software Center better. The font in it is too small. And you can't even select the images to enlarge them.
@bragefuglseth3505
@bragefuglseth3505 8 ай бұрын
GNOME Software follows your system’s font size. Is it different from the rest of your system?
@inqizzo
@inqizzo 8 ай бұрын
I think its the best update i have seen in a long long time, its just like windows updates just backwards
@Sahrawiyun
@Sahrawiyun 8 ай бұрын
I really don't get the Gnome hate (from what seems to be primarily KDE users). As I undertstand it, the Gnome team wants to provide a stable, clean and not overloaded UI as a core (cough cough kde) while extensions allows users to change practically everything if they really want to change it. (this is not a dig at kde, they just have completely different approaches, one being cleanliness and stability, the other being many options and "cutting edge" features)
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 8 ай бұрын
the tribalism in the linux community generally is fucking exhausting.
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
I feel like KZbinrs are the absolute biggest problem with that. They want to be unique and quirky for not using the biggest DE out there, which is awesome, but they take it a step further and decide to spread misinformation and weird biases because of that. The point at which I got so pissed to the point of no return towards these people was after watching "Ranting About The GNOME Desktop" on Tech Over Tea channel. Brodie had The Linux Cast's Matt as the guest, a man who's as interested and knowledgeable about GNOME about as I would be about lymphocytosis cases in elephants. So what does a person like that have to say about GNOME? Let me dig it up for you so you can hear the most typical yet braindead take I run into all the time: "In a perfect world GNOME would absolutely have no extensions whatsoever...(30 seconds later)...GNOME is too much like a locked piece of software" I have no clue why is it always the people that gatekeep extensions telling you how you can't customize literally anything on GNOME and how GNOME devs will put you in jail if you change your wallpaper or whatever, I don't fucking know, I can't be bothered to listen to that bullshit anymore. The Unix way of doing things where you get a simple app that does one thing and does it well while being expandable with what you want is a heavenly solution for a desktop environment. Haters can just suck it honestly
@NocturnePigeon
@NocturnePigeon 8 ай бұрын
It's easy to consider everything as hate, even criticism, and this way of thinking is pure tribalism. Personally, I've never much appreciated the idea, if we want to call it moronic like Apple, of having app menus or screens that obstruct the view (it's a desktop, not a tablet, for heaven's sake), as well as leaving solutions to third parties to fix this design madness, which should be a standard for the desktop environment. Instead, it seems to me that overall there's more interest in having a certain style coherence than functionality.
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
@@NocturnePigeonWhy criticize a project you don't use? Linux has a wide range of desktop environments to suit everyone. So why not accept that GNOME's choices may also be just right for other people? I love GNOME, which suits my needs perfectly…
@NocturnePigeon
@NocturnePigeon 8 ай бұрын
@@Okki666 The analytical ability that leads us to find possible flaws and issues is one of the characteristics that sets us apart from beasts. What's the point of being a fanboy or hater without arguments? Neither brings out desirable features or problems to be addressed. And, no, the ones I mentioned are not software design choices but gaps that we expect to be filled by plugins.
@matthewsjardine
@matthewsjardine 8 ай бұрын
These are solid updates. I love Gnome.
@eldoctoremad
@eldoctoremad 8 ай бұрын
really looking forward to this release, great overview!
@AliNajafies
@AliNajafies 8 ай бұрын
2:44 even if the computer has been shut down and turned back on later - it’s still there!
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
I've seen those notifications on college computers... Six months ago, no one opened the notifications to delete it. Although it will be a while before they decide to update their 18.04s and solve this lol
@babadook4173
@babadook4173 4 ай бұрын
I liked when you could change the color of the folders
@xperience-evolution
@xperience-evolution 8 ай бұрын
2 more years for Gnome 50 - Crazy to think about where we will be as it feels like progress is getting faster and faster. Can't wait for 46 to land in a few Days in openSUSE.
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if they'll go that route or something else. Maybe We'll get GNOME 400 lol
@harshitichigo7223
@harshitichigo7223 8 ай бұрын
​@@bvd_vlvdthey will probably name it gnome 5 and then 51.
@IngwiePhoenix_nb
@IngwiePhoenix_nb 8 ай бұрын
Paused at 8:33 Neat to see they added crosshairs; it's been a staple of Windows a11y for years like even the oldschool FreedomScientific MaGic. But, still no keyboard+mousewheel shortcut to zoom? seriously? XD bruhhhh... Overall, this is looking amazing so far - GNOME is what I would love to go for, but I do have to go back and pester them more about a11y apparently... eh x.x
@Eyuphuro
@Eyuphuro 8 ай бұрын
Things I hope for in the future: Ability to limit battery charging; Show more battery information; integrate a file sending/receiving system, or the kdeconnect protocol within the configurations (there's a extension for this, and valent is coming); Ability to put a wallpaper in gdm (do not be confused with lock screen); move the online account panel to the users sub-panel, each user with their online accounts settings.
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
For battery charging, this is planned for version 47 (you can search for «power: Add support for battery charge limiting» by Jelle van der Waa). For GDM customization, have you tried the GDM Settings app?
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks 8 ай бұрын
Still no support for setting accent colors?
@raute2687
@raute2687 8 ай бұрын
what I want to see return is that the progress bar for file transfers stays visible when I change focus to another window. still, gnome 46 looks great so far.
@Iconicwedgeshape
@Iconicwedgeshape 8 ай бұрын
Literally all I want from gnome after this update is to merge the "rounded window corners" tweak for apps that don't support libadwaita, It just completes the unified look so well.
@handleless85
@handleless85 8 ай бұрын
What I would really care about is better touchscreen support. Currently, there is pretty much just one useful gesture (show the overview by swiping up with 3 fingers). If I use that gesture in Firefox, it opens the on-screen-keyboard instead... Speaking of the OSK, even that has bugs in languages other than English. Now that I think about it, I would love a video that compares the touch experience across different DE's... *wink*
@vincentperne9483
@vincentperne9483 8 ай бұрын
This is exciting! CAN I SCREAM?!
@JabaTheFrog
@JabaTheFrog 8 ай бұрын
Finally that added proper fractional scaling
@OraOraOra
@OraOraOra 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the News! 04:14 Lol ... I can already do this with super + number. Or am I missing something?
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 8 ай бұрын
That may have been an extension.
@OraOraOra
@OraOraOra 8 ай бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213Mhm.. maby Fedora and openSUSE have this enabled by default
@OraOraOra
@OraOraOra 8 ай бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213Maby Fedora and openSUSE have this by default then.
@johnandmegh
@johnandmegh 8 ай бұрын
I have to believe the new part is Ctrl+Super+# for launching a new window of that app - I am currently running Tumbleweed with GNOME 45 (with no extensions enabled) and the regular Super+# to pick a pinned application works as always, and I'm 99% sure openSUSE isn't patching that in somehow.
@shaunpatrick8345
@shaunpatrick8345 8 ай бұрын
They changed the default shortcuts.
@nicktyrin4401
@nicktyrin4401 8 ай бұрын
9:45 this way it's possible to blink-compare images for tiny changes
@PHDWhom
@PHDWhom 7 ай бұрын
So can I assume that there are no real changes to Gnome Calendar? I need biweekly appointments, and the last version I checked it’s still not possible.
@user8921
@user8921 7 ай бұрын
"We can probably end the video here" lol that was really fun
@SylveonMujigaeOfficial
@SylveonMujigaeOfficial 8 ай бұрын
3:35 Yes!! I can use 125% scale on my Retina MacBook Pro 2015 with Fedora now!
@DeibysArtigas
@DeibysArtigas 8 ай бұрын
But Xwayland apps still being blurried or did they finally improve it?.
@Chaotic_Oven
@Chaotic_Oven 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait for Fedora 40 so I can get this
@df3yt
@df3yt 8 ай бұрын
No 5:17 - All we ever wanted was split panes...not tabs which defeat the point of real estate and multitasking.
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
What YOU want. I've never needed split panes and the current solution suits me just fine.
@df3yt
@df3yt 8 ай бұрын
@@Okki666 Bugger, I really want to believe "we" literally meant everyone, you burst my bubble ;). Jokes aside a simple F3 would make it actually SO much more functional.
@Richo5566
@Richo5566 8 ай бұрын
Linux file managers are so far behind Directory Opus on Windows, even the built-in Windows file explorer.
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
@@Richo5566 I went to see the screenshots on the official site and got scared 😂 I definitely prefer minimalism and simplicity (as well as having an application for each task rather than a file manager that also does FTP client, music metadata editor and who knows what else). But it's a good thing it exists. It would be great to have a similar GNOME application, but in addition to Nautilus, which is probably the best choice for most people.
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 8 ай бұрын
Just open multiple windows.
@in-craig-ible6160
@in-craig-ible6160 7 ай бұрын
These are some pretty great improvements.
@RomaIX
@RomaIX 8 ай бұрын
GNOME IS BEAUTIFUL!!!
@WMan37
@WMan37 8 ай бұрын
I just want DRM Leasing for SteamVR support, the ability to shrink the default gtk window titlebar size across the system (I think it's literally twice as big as it should be on 1080p monitors), and the full Just Perfection and User Theme extension feature list as well as everything in gnome-tweaks to be available as native functionality in the settings menu. If even half of these happen to GNOME, I'll give it another shot.
@Daniel-wn5ye
@Daniel-wn5ye 7 ай бұрын
KDE Plasma has DRM leasing since a few years ago.
@WMan37
@WMan37 7 ай бұрын
@@Daniel-wn5ye I am aware of this, this is partly why I'm pointing out the tragedy that GNOME _doesn't_ have it.
@My-noname
@My-noname 8 ай бұрын
No need to go hopping anytime soon then. Looks really great, both now and for the future.
@kaneelsnuiver
@kaneelsnuiver 8 ай бұрын
Will we get thumbnail generation from the file picker though?
@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 8 ай бұрын
That already exists since gnome 44 I think
@Mishaye
@Mishaye 8 ай бұрын
@@TheLinuxEXPThe file picker will show thumbnails for files where they have already been generated (e.g, by visiting the directory in Nautilus), but if a thumbnail haven't been generated for a file, the file picker will just show the generic icon. 🤷‍♂
@shaunpatrick8345
@shaunpatrick8345 8 ай бұрын
..and will it show custom folder icons?
@jeremyjjbrown
@jeremyjjbrown 8 ай бұрын
So the new feature of Nautilus is just giving back a feature they stupidly removed 10 years ago? LOL
@Okki666
@Okki666 8 ай бұрын
You should read the releases notes (global search, better performance, the ability to display full dates rather than simplified ones, improved network discovery, copy/move detection over 4GiB file limit on FAT…) and all the bug fixes that are always welcome.
@suryaya441
@suryaya441 7 ай бұрын
I remember ebassi would constantly spam that fractional scaling was a scam / didnt exist lmao. Finally, common sense prevailed!!
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@PerryWagle
@PerryWagle 8 ай бұрын
Will be beyond awesome if it will let you identify which app "made that sound".
@philpots48
@philpots48 8 ай бұрын
Neat!
@xthebumpx
@xthebumpx 8 ай бұрын
Wait, why do we need ctrl+super+number? Didn't super+number already do that? Or was that something distros add.
@nerdyneighbor
@nerdyneighbor 8 ай бұрын
3:14 I thought VRR was primarily for battery
@ambros470
@ambros470 8 ай бұрын
Can't you already just press super+a number to launcher favorites?
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 8 ай бұрын
I thought that was an extension?
@ambros470
@ambros470 8 ай бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 I don't think so. I have no extensions installed on Fedora 39 and I use the feature all the time. Just looked at the packaged extensions and they're all off.
@shaunpatrick8345
@shaunpatrick8345 8 ай бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213it's default functionality, they are just changing the shortcuts. Changing a folder icon from the properties panel is also old, they just added and edit icon to it!
@jercarpenter2398
@jercarpenter2398 8 ай бұрын
I want the ability to opt for a vertical orientation for workspaces. The arguments given by the gnome folks for horizontal only are weak (primarily, they say it's because horizontal is how everyone else does it, which isn't an argument). Widescreen is a thing now and forever. Multiple (typically side-by-side) monitors is also a thing now and forever. Horizontal is sub-optimal.
@poweruser64
@poweruser64 7 ай бұрын
I agree, vertical to horizontal was a very controversial move. I think there's an extension that lets you bring this back though? I don't remember what it's called
@jercarpenter2398
@jercarpenter2398 7 ай бұрын
@@poweruser64 Yeah, it's called 'Vertical overview', and it's my preference over the new horizontal layout, but not quite as polished as the original vertical.
@ags_1905
@ags_1905 7 ай бұрын
Gnome looks exceptionally well! But I am more accustomed to the workflow of Windows or KDE and from a functionality standpoint, Gnome does not make a lot of sense to me. So I could watch it all day, but when it comes to actually do something with it, I just can't. So it would be interesting to see a video of distributions that are using preinstalled plugins to (re)gain functionality. Like Manjaro, ROSA, and probably others.
@videocapturing
@videocapturing 8 ай бұрын
I'm using LMDE, should I be excited with this gnome 46? I'm getting confused with all these names/techs/versions I don't know which is which 🤣🤣
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