2023 Yeti SB 160, SB 140, SB 120 | Dissected

[@SudoChuckwalla]

Between this and the enduro shootout you guys are on a roll - really enjoying the content lately. You guys make note of interesting things that doesn't feel like re-reading the marketing material. Dario is a great addition too. Cheers!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Awesome, thank you!

[@LikeAStickOfDynamite]

Copped myself a 2022 Canyon Spectral CF9 a year ago for $8.3k AUD new, around $5.6k USD. Full carbon including Cockpit and wheels, sram wireless shifting and Ultimate level Rockshox suspension. Bike has been flawless, and seeing these prices reaffirms my choice. I mean, my bike isnt cheap, far from it. But this is CRAZY.

[@quban79]

bike prices are getting outta control ,unless you go direct to consumer as you did.. jumped on crc to have a look at the nukeproof scout.. almost $3500 for an average spec alloy hardtail..ridic.

[@ScoopernautGaming]

Will say that with patience the prices even out QUICK. I just bought myself a brand new 2023 Yeti 140 LR C2 for 4k with taxes included. For a spec that was 7600 brand new from yeti I am unreasonably stoked with the deal I got 😂

[@superawesomefuntimego]

Beautiful bikes. But dang those prices are insane, even in today's market. $5000 for the SB160 frame...really? For nearly the same price as just a Yeti frame you can get a complete carbon fiber long travel bike with full XT and XM1700 wheels and Fox Performance Elite from multiple other brands. I get it how a brand can command a small premium but.......

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Awesome seeing Dario on the silver screen!!! Nice vid guys!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks very much Jeff! We like having him. 🙏🏻

[@mkmornz804]

Very true about expensive bikes and the expectation that people will have a more enjoyable ride than something a few years older or half the price. I have a Yeti with carbon wheels. I got the bike with those wheels on it. Can't say I enjoy the ride more than with the lower priced bike I used to ride with aluminum wheels. Different ride but that doesn't necessarily make it better. People and mountain bikers in general have been accustomed to the consumer driven way of purchasing. More expensive isn't objectively always better nor vastly improved to be that noticeable. Most of the time it's just different. Many times you can't even tell a marked difference that a company claims there is on a product.

[@flow2tech]

makes me realize how good my sb130 still is...Not a lot to change.

[@ttengineer404]

Aluminum wheels on a 10k bike, that’s MF’n insulting.

[@porroco]

Some people rather aluminum, has its pros and cons as carbon wheels do

[@12345mtb]

Yeti, I hope they go out of business because their stupid pricing ,

[@michiganstate149]

The price of the frame being what a MIUSA Ibis or Allied is absolutely ridiculous...they keep charging that price because there's a ton of people who are still buying them. It's crazy. I'll wait a bit and get an "old" SB115 or SB130 for a much much more reasonable price or I just won't buy one.

[@SubversionGarage]

A $10k bike period is insulting

[@ttengineer404]

@@porroco agreed, but if I’m spending $10k on a bike it better have carbon wheels

[@XCRiders]

I’m pleased that the cable housings don’t feed through the headset!!! Way to go YETI 🎉 I also don’t want and don’t like frame storage. Way to go YETI ❤

[@bdubs1967]

That dude on the right looks thrilled to be evaluating these bikes.

[@curiosgeorge16]

Super nice bikes but the pricing is outrageous. So many other better options on the market.

[@Jacob99174]

Want a Yeti one day so bad, but every year I’m reminded why it isn’t cost effective…

[@fit2live]

@@Jacob99174 buy the old model on closeout. It’s the same geo and new updates IMHO still result in basically the same bike

[@MXJEFF94]

And what are the better 'options' in the market? I've owned a Pivot Trail 429, Ibis, Trek Fuel 9.8, etc....and the Yeti SB115 (last year) is by far the best climber and overall bike IMO. Yeti's are great bikes.

[@curiosgeorge16]

@@MXJEFF94 I agree, as I stated, they are super nice bikes, but I cannot justify the price tag. People's opinions on bikes are inherently subjective, this is just my opinion. I too have owned Ibis, Rocky Mountain, Specialized, Pivot, Yeti, Santa Cruz, and a few others, so I have a pretty decent idea of what I like. So much depends on the terrain people ride most of the time. I'm in the desert Southwest where we have a ton of rocks. We definitely have to climb some tech if we want to enjoy the descents. Of all the bikes I've owned, I would say the Ripmo is the most well rounded of the bunch. Again, great bikes, but when the cheapest option for a SB140 is $6400, I'd rather look elsewhere. But that's just me. Your mileage may vary. Enjoy the trails!

[@MXJEFF94]

@@curiosgeorge16 I’m in AZ as well and ride in the rocks… I’m old and fat so I need a good climbing bike… 👍😂

[@lars_atx]

Another great rundown of the options and ride feel. You and Dario make a very good presenting pair. Keep up the great vids and analysis.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks very much Larry.

[@Axsel85]

5k for a frame set is insane

[@Spoilll1]

I have an sb130LR - and I don't understand why I need to buy a new sb140... The changes are minimal. I do not feel that my sb130 sounds loud when I ride, I don't have any issues with my pf bb and I do not see any significant improvement in geometry. I also have checked the specs of t3 and t4, and what we've got for extra 1.5k$ - kashima coating on dropper post, x01 chain instead gx (lol), ergon saddle instead wtb, xx1 cassette instead x01, xx1 cranks instead x1 and guide rsc instead ultimate. I'm not sure but for 1.5k it's too few changes. They may add at least carbon wheels for that price.

[@fit2live]

I bought a sb130 lr in matte black discounted in April. I found the pricing to be inline with most brands. It does not stand out in a pack of bikes cosmetically. Looks pretty utilitarian. What I like about it most is it rides anything and very well. I live in FL and travel to basically anywhere near the Appalachians in the south east. Like Pisgah, North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama. It’s nice having 1 bike that can ride places in FL such as Alafia, Santos, etc and then I can take it to the mountains. I love it. I’m doing things I didn’t think I could ever do on a bike like jumps, drops, tech, fast trails, etc and all while living in an place with no mountains. Call me a dentist, I don’t care. I’m just grateful to have the opportunity own this bike and to do this sport.

[@freddynogueira1803]

Just ordered a sb120 c2 with factory upgraded suspension in the dust color. Cant wait for that thing to come in. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas

[@janhagen2960]

How the SB160 compares to the Specialized Enduro in term of climbing and descents? THX

[@MrLabdah]

Will IT be possible to upgrade the old switch infinity link with the New bearings and shields.?

[@a8f235]

I feel sad when I see the way prices are heading, because at the end of the day this is a bicycle. Personally I purchased a Pivot Switchblade last year, and that was way more expensive than I ever thought I would be willing to pay for a bicycle, but because I had just sold my last home and had some extra money from that, I was able to do it. The thing is that I won't be selling a home every other year, and I got other expenses in my life as everybody else. That Switchblade will be coming along for quite some years to come so I get my money's worth for that thing. The other thing is prices for parts as well that has just skyrocketed. When I see prices for something as simple as a cassette that now can cost an arm and a leg, I feel bitter sweet about the whole thing really. Something has to change for prices to stabilize so it will benefit both consumer and the industry as a whole.

[@somebody655]

Great product- worked perfectly, no issues.

[@duanehundley]

Will they have a brunch ride for the 120?

[@TheLoamWolf]

Yeah but gluten free because XC guys care about calories and health...

[@hb7030]

@@TheLoamWolf XC guys aren't going to buy a 30 pound bike though

[@swapmotolive.]

You guys do a fantastic job

[@captnhuffy]

So, Fast, Responsive, Precise.. Question: does it corner like it has (the long coveted) lower bottom bracket, but without the pedal-strikes? This is the holy-grail (compromise) of xc and competitive bikes if you ask me

[@Bench_mark_113]

“Pretty light bikes” 😂

[@LajRa5]

Yeti makes a great bike, but the pricing just doesn't add up to me. It's a status thing, nothing else. I can buy almost two really nice bikes that are just as good as a yeti for almost the same cost.

[@falkyn06]

How far off of the yeti recommendation did you end up on the 160??

[@gpearce11]

These look great, but there's a couple of things that leave me a little disappointed. For starters, as some of the most expensive carbon bikes on the market, how do they still not have tube-in-tube cable routing? Combine that with these being possibly the ONLY premium bikes released in the last year that don't have ANY in frame storage (which seems to have become the new "fits a water bottle"), and I find myself left wanting compared to the competition. At least they didn't route anything through the headset I guess.

[@captnhuffy]

p.s. the need for precise suspension tuning is the mark of a razor sharp design. Weak designs lead to compromises that yield Mushy rides that can never feel "spot on" You can compensate "slack design parameters" with stiffer wheels and lowering air-volume ... but you can't get precision in fit, feel and function down this path... But on the other hand: a design can be too sharp

[@2sully4]

Do you think $4800 is a no brained for the sb160 or I’m leaning for the specialized evo elite at 3500 on sale. I’m on a old yeti sb5c currently

[@porroco]

I was wating for the 160E to be renew too, that’s a 6 years old bike with 2 on the market.

[@Ffkvke]

Loving the vid so far😁

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you very much!

[@frienduro24]

For $9600, gets you a 29lb SB120 T3. I’m not impressed.

[@horaciomedinavargas2674]

What a great video guys! I just found this channel and subscribed immediately. Found it because I’m planning on buying a SB140 LR, however I agree with most of the comments here, they are kind of over priced. I specifically like SB140 since I love mountain biking and pedaling so much, so the best option for me was 140 until I realized them prices. Do you think a better option can be found such as specialized or Santa Cruz? I’ve heard Santa Cruz Hightower or Bronson may be better options than 140, but since I’m not an expert like you all I’m so confused.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Well thank you for finding us and welcome. This bike is pretty awesome but Yeti is not known for being a “value” brand. You could check the Pivot Switchblade and see if any dealers or CompetitiveCyclist.com has sales. We’re also aware many dealers are sitting on lord of inventory so you could try calling yeti dealers and seeing if they’re willing to discount! Beyond that Norco’s new Fluid is a solid bike and very good deals can be had as they’re on sale. Also just heard Guerrilla Gravity and Alchemy have serious deals and they make solid bikes too! I’d check those out.

[@horaciomedinavargas2674]

@@TheLoamWolf wow guys thanks for replying. I will look for the Guerrilla Gravity or Norco and see if I fall in love as much as I did with SB140, if not well I’m going to spend that extra since I really like it so much. Thanks guys for your extraordinary feedback.

[@In_dependent]

is sb140 coil compatible?

[@marks4191]

$4500 for a frame only Jesus

[@mepa-e3b]

actually 5000usd for sb160..😁

[@matthewserna7475]

12k for all67deg of 120mm ....30lbs too definitely lugging around lunch in their somewhere

[@birdbro1990]

2019 “no one should buy an XC bike they’re uncomfortable” … 2022 “if most of us are honest about our local trails we should all be on an XC bike”

[@brookscurran]

and those "xc" bikes have gotten much closer to "trail" bikes every year

[@somedude2734]

@@brookscurranthey sure did. New XC is almost like my 2013 stumpjumper. Down country I guess they call it now.

[@wtfchazpwnt]

Wish I could afford the sb130

[@gerrygadget]

It's so odd they only use even numbers now...

[@spuddo123]

Pros: no headset cable routing! Cons: cant buy unless you know root canal extractions

[@topchoice1621]

Man you guys got the best job in the world 🌎

[@dariodigiulio3758]

agreed!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Haha, thank you very much! You shoulda seen us going hypothermic pushing through snow, frustrated as hell and stressed out as daylight was quickly fading knowing the deadline was days away.

[@topchoice1621]

@@TheLoamWolf bro you guys are doing a great job on this channel

[@drewjonespdx]

Nothing in 27.5? Peace

[@vincentday6640]

Does the sb140 ride as harsh the sb130?

[@neozeonsolid]

I’d rather get a Santa Cruz and use the extra money for a season pass at a bike park. For the those prices the frames should be made in the USA

[@ericlessard3628]

For my money it's remarkable a bike this expensive and well thought out can simply ignore something so essential as weight. Adding a pound to every frame while adding a few refinements and a lot of cost is kind of ridiculous. I know talking about weight in American isn't cool but that's one of the biggest advances in modern bikes. I would feel much better about spending a fortune on a Yeti if weight was improved with each iteration and not simply blown out of the water.

[@roik.6694]

How it can cost more the a dirt bike??

[@323johnnybravo]

Any word on a Revamped 165 or do they plan on killing off 27.5 bikes ??

[@dennobrondo9373]

Following this...hope they won't kill off the 27.5! The 165 is the only one left without a revamp, so hopefully it comes out with a bang!👊

[@ExplainicatorStudios]

What’s the plan for 27.5 bikes??

[@TheLoamWolf]

What are those? 😂

[@fullsusloditv5495]

nice review 👍

[@koreanmtnbiker2931]

Did you not ask the Yeti staff, "Why no internal storage integration?" I feel at this price and if ""they" really waned to improve the bike without major change, they did not do much far as to improve the bike. Ok they improved the switch infinity, I give them credit for that. But all else, there is nothing new. The bike was great to begin with.

[@erinb4919]

Is it really just yeti to be criticized on their sky high prices on the top models? It gets a bit old to constantly read yeti bashing... When I look at any of more high end brands-SC megatower with axs top build, pivot firebird, RM altitude, ibis ripmo, specialized enduro etc. All are 11-12k. Im more interested to hear how the bikes ride vs others. I don't think it's just yeti increasing their prices, it's all the brands. Things vary by 1-2k, based on the specific bike, but really it's splitting hairs. Expensive, full stop. The direct to consumer brands offer more value in terms of dollars per components, so I guess people still have choice in terms of what frame to buy. "Better" is always pretty subjective. Question re the suspension tuning- are the pressures you ended up running to make the bike feel good pretty close to yeti calculator numbers? Or higher?

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you Erin, for the most part the numbers are pretty accurate and close. The 160 took a bit more work, but that could be because I haven't actually stepped on a scale with my new Dad bod in riding gear too! Point is though, it's a fine range to get it feeling right, so weigh yourself, check it out and maybe err on the side of less sag and more compression rather than softening up. These bikes ride well though!

[@erinb4919]

@@TheLoamWolf cool, thanks for the insight 👍

[@raivkka4313]

Considering I only paid $9999.99 for my 2004 Honda CBR1000RR, which has considerably more engineering and goes 165mph, I don't ever see myself paying 10K for a bicycle.

[@stuartthomasson5027]

Yeti makes some sexy bikes. Any dentists out there want to buy me one? Lol

[@mudkayak6305]

A lot of money for what sounds like moderate stoke !

[@TheLoamWolf]

Oh no, we're plenty stoked. These just aren't our official "reviews" or long term tests, so we try to remain pretty objective and present facts on the product itself with some initial ride impressions. Excited to ride these bikes a lot more this winter.

[@Likeaworm]

I got my sb150 for $5300

[@believe8263]

$12,000 ! I guess I can live with one kidney right?

[@craigmckinnon242]

Overcomplicated rear suspension. Overpriced for the beautiful teal or blue whatever paint color it is but if you like it it's totally worth it.

[@Bench_mark_113]

I think the yeti allure that they had several years ago has officially worn off. Yes they are still cool, but they have had more market saturation and people are realizing that this switch infinity is not really worth the cost or the weight. It’s more of a novelty and not a game changer. I predict yeti is going to not have its status it’s enjoyed for much longer.

[@brownie112010]

Yeti owner here. Nice bikes but plenty of better options. Yetis are way overhyped, overrated and overpriced. I still have my SB150 collecting dust in my garage

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks for sharing

[@10-Man]

$10.000.00 & it still has aluminum wheels? Wth?

[@lg784359]

Big ol pass :v the price is outrageous

[@MichaelAverycarhauler1969]

Is it me, or is everything Yeti just overpriced???

[@mistythecat6711]

Bunch of overpriced bikes with no changes at all! Yes they say they modified a few things but do you really feel it in the trail? Yeti is overrated, overpriced, overhyped. I have an sb150 Also a canyon al 125 for less than half cost of the yeti total price and i do feel better in the canyon.! You dont have to spend unnecessary money in yetis, santa cruz, speciliazed to enjoy the trails

[@mkmornz804]

Exactly. I own a Yeti with carbon wheels but I can now say after riding it alot that it isn't better than the bike I rode that cost half as much and had aluminum wheels. I don't have more excitement riding my Yeti than when I was riding that other bike.

[@Bench_mark_113]

Ex yeti owner here too. I was sold on their marketing back in 2019. Got 130 lr and never fell in love. It was harsh and heavy. Bought an orbea for less than I sold the yeti for. And thought the rear suspension wouldn’t be as nice. But orbea was so much smoother and gave me confidence to go fast. After riding it on a few times I was able to grab back some of my old dh koms that I never could on the sb130.

[@mkmornz804]

I'd never pay that much for a new Yeti especially if the new improvements arent realistically that noticeable for someone that doesn't ride . But I do plan on getting another Yeti the same way I got my current yeti. I like the switch infinity alot. Got the yeti much cheaper through ebay and was able to inspect it before buying it since it was close by. I'd go through pinbike or similar next time. I think it'd be stupid to pay 8 grand for a new bike even if I'd ride it frequently. Currently my several years old yeti continues satisfying me and I dont feel I'm missing out on getting the latest tech. If I see a certain yeti model like a year old thats thousands less than what a bike shop is selling it for, I may consider getting it. I waited and searched for the current yeti I still really enjoy instead of paying 8 or 10 grand. And I'll do that again instead of being driven by consumerism

[@mkmornz804]

I meant to write; that doesn't ride frequently. I definitely ride alot and love mountain biking through nature but I don't ride every day or 5 days a week.

[@c141charlie]

Yetis are like Italian sports cars. Beautiful, fast, expensive, and high maintenance.

[@bartholomewhorrocks3750]

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[@bigwave7207]

Not interested. Too spendy, no 27.5.

[@boylagz]

Mid-travel bikes/SB140, the most useless shlts.

[@southpawlibranine3511]

The c series uses the old switch infinity

[@grxygxds]

why did dude choose Jeffrey Dahmer as a Vibe LOL those glasses are killer!

[@jamesdorsijiuhjuh6151]

FOH!