Poor Mans Fiberglass PMF Tutorial, Tips to get PERFECT Corners! Foamie, Vespa Teardrop

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The L Wood by Lucy

The L Wood by Lucy

2 жыл бұрын

This is part of a series of video for this Micro Vespa Teardrop Trailer! This is a step by step tutorial for Poor Mans Fiberglass PMF. I built this with my friend, Tom, from "The Tiny Side of Tiny"
Check out the other videos here:
Full Build Time Lapse: • Micro Foamie Vespa Tea...
Vespa Teardrop Trailer Tour: • Micro Teardrop Trailer...
Best Adhesive for Foamie: • NOT Gorilla Glue! Watc...
Check out my other trailers!
Teardrop Trailer PMF Tour: • Home Built Teardrop Ca...
Cargo Trailer PMF: • Poor Man's Fiberglass ...
Products used:
Titebond II (Wood Glue): amzn.to/3y3TgX9
Canvas Drop Clothes: amzn.to/3JVCMGr
Smooth Roller Covers: amzn.to/33jSzhl
Roller Extension: amzn.to/3zHXipx
Follow Tom's Adventures in the trailer: / @thetinysideoftiny7625
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@usedcarsokinawa
@usedcarsokinawa Жыл бұрын
I’m almost sold on the idea of poor man’s fiberglass. It will give me the ability to make my first small camper.
@snicketysnickerdoodle8484
@snicketysnickerdoodle8484 Жыл бұрын
Your PMF technique is the definitive method. Lots of videos out there demonstrating awful end result. A stand alone PMF how to series would help lots of folks out there. Thanks for sharing.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@khelek100
@khelek100 Жыл бұрын
Do you think using Foam Fusion instead of tight bond, would change the canvas adhesion much?
@patrickkenney1080
@patrickkenney1080 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 30s, Rosco Turner, a very famous air racing pilot used this same technique on his 300 mph race planes-however they were using Grade A cotton. Kudos to you for keeping this skill set alive!
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SheepHaterUY
@SheepHaterUY 2 жыл бұрын
Serious ASMR watching you iron those edges down (pleats smaller and smaller). Love this!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It is satisfying to do!
@SheepHaterUY
@SheepHaterUY 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelwood I use it often in my sewing. I can be seriously OCD about it, or rush through it either way Lol
@PainterD54
@PainterD54 Жыл бұрын
Titebond 2 is only water resistant where as Titebond 3 is actually waterproof and lays down just as well as Titebond 2. It is just a bit thicker and the first coat (before you lay the cloth) can be deluted with as much as 50% water, but I go with only 1/3 water and 2/3 glue.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informative response! Perhaps if I watered it down some I would like the way it rolls out better. I use TB3 for somethings, for PMF the multiple paint layers are what really seals it up. My 7 year old trailer is still perfect looking. But perhaps I will try TB3 watered down so I can get a nice thin layer like TB2. :) cheers!
@kevinswanson3910
@kevinswanson3910 11 ай бұрын
Could I mix primer with the glue?
@thetinysideoftiny7625
@thetinysideoftiny7625 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Lucy. You are truly the master of PMF. I've never seen it done better! Been sending KZbinr's your way to view the build videos :) This was one of the very best collaborations I've ever done...thank you for everything my friend :)
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom! It was a blast!
@TueriNatura
@TueriNatura 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for the tutorial and showing the details. I am starting a project using the PMFG on a truck camper inspired by your trailer video. Thanks for taking the time to show us how it's done.
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am sure yours will be beautiful!
@RecordingStudio9
@RecordingStudio9 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I need to learn more about PMF and this has been very helpful.
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome, I hope you have fun making something with it!
@hoagiesherlin7732
@hoagiesherlin7732 Жыл бұрын
I'm so impressed with your work!!!that turned out amazing
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AaronHendu
@AaronHendu Жыл бұрын
Great video! Lots of tips and tricks to help with my own build!
@annat7515
@annat7515 2 жыл бұрын
You are a genius! Great job!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chuckwilcox6997
@chuckwilcox6997 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Lucy, inspiring to see how well the PMF turned out and the clear detail on how to apply, glue and paint to get a smooth finish, inclusive of the preparation of washing and pre-ironing tips. Awesome work on the edge, pressing out the pleats to zero, I didn't know that could be achieved.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@danprior7693
@danprior7693 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking finish!! I am about to skin my TD this next week and will use your technique. Thank you for posting. BTW, I also like your lazy susan stereo in your TD...I incorporated one into my build; very clever. Thanks for great videos!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan! I am so happy you used the lazy Susan!!
@hurdbuilds
@hurdbuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice, great tips. Some of the best PMF work I’ve seen!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have been really happy with PMF on my trailers :)
@Hammer-jt6bz
@Hammer-jt6bz 2 жыл бұрын
Wooooow!!! You did an amazing job! You have inspired me so much. Thank you!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@bookman106
@bookman106 2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of the process I have seen. Thank you.
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thank you!
@GTWoodshop
@GTWoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Really well explained Lucy. I have no plans to attempt something like this but feel well informed to do so should I try. Thank you. 👍
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Graham! I am very ready to be back to working with lumber! Fabric does not cooperate well 😂
@SVMSICE
@SVMSICE Жыл бұрын
I was having a hard time finding a good video like this, thank you!!!
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am happy it was helpful!
@rlabrune
@rlabrune 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best PMF video. Others don't compare to yours. Thanks!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@enigmaaflyonthewall3370
@enigmaaflyonthewall3370 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, for your time 👍👍👍💯🙏
@scottm5425
@scottm5425 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing job you did
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@OnirikaLovelace
@OnirikaLovelace Жыл бұрын
I love Vespa, and in combo with Teardrop Camper it's terrific! I will buy immediately.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@followyourbliss101
@followyourbliss101 7 ай бұрын
great tutorial! like all the details you point out
@jessprenosil6399
@jessprenosil6399 9 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you!!! I just bought a homemade teardrop trailer and am going to try this pmf technique to weatherproof it for my move to a state with much more inclement weather than where i am now in nebraska! Love your videos and style🙏🏼happy trails!
@thelwood
@thelwood 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@opgyeahyouknowme
@opgyeahyouknowme Жыл бұрын
I just found this video. What a cool build and what a great video. I think this is the most comprehensive video I've seen on Poor Man's fiberglass and how to apply it. Thank you.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tarawakefield4383
@tarawakefield4383 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful job on those edges!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SgtBrewdawg
@SgtBrewdawg Жыл бұрын
Very informative and very cool! Thanks for the insight and instructions. 👍
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Happy it was helpful!
@1chumley1
@1chumley1 Жыл бұрын
I love it. Beautiful!
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rb664
@rb664 Жыл бұрын
Wow, very impressed. Great visual and verbal instructions. I really like the method too.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kabot4878
@kabot4878 2 жыл бұрын
great video, the iron was new to me, and you made it look easy
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@leeharrison8790
@leeharrison8790 Жыл бұрын
My biggest error I did was stretch the cloth lol you are so right about not stretching the cloth it causes air pockets but still no failures ... I did use a stiff paint brush & dabbed the cloth tapping it with the stiff bristles of the brush like folks do with actual fiber-glassing the cloth to get out air bubbles & tight places .. I seen you used a iron .. way cool ! I'll have to use that method !
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
I am happy yours still worked out well! And good idea with the paint brush!
@meandmyRC99
@meandmyRC99 11 ай бұрын
Not stretching it tight is counterintuitive I think. If I hadn’t seen this, I would be pulling it tight.
@maxingham9139
@maxingham9139 Жыл бұрын
Im thinking of using this technique on a cedar strip planked boat, bottom only. Now I have to get the paint off it first ! Great videos ,Thanks !
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great project!
@Threeheadsrk
@Threeheadsrk 3 ай бұрын
I keep seeing people applying a thick layer of glue to the canvas afterwards. I’m with you on letting the paint absorb in rather than just paint sitting on glue
@chadlizardo2199
@chadlizardo2199 4 ай бұрын
I gotta say, you are awesome!
@thelwood
@thelwood 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@rawhide154
@rawhide154 7 ай бұрын
You make it look so easy;)
@thelwood
@thelwood 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@netltube
@netltube 4 ай бұрын
great techniques and tips, you're a true maker! Nice work.
@thelwood
@thelwood 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@flisms
@flisms 2 жыл бұрын
Real cool!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@user-ei9bq4oe3p
@user-ei9bq4oe3p 6 ай бұрын
You are amazing probably one of the best videos I've seen in diy not to mention a fascinating trick to a trending trade. Valuable information instructed so generously and effectively I'm seriously just blown away.good work I'm not a cridic I'm just seriously impressed
@thelwood
@thelwood 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@leeharrison8790
@leeharrison8790 Жыл бұрын
Wow .. thanks for sharing your method .. it was great to watch your process ! I used wood glue over thin skin 1/8 plywood like you did .. but I used cotton bed sheet that worked out great for my project . I did however use the wood glue thinned down to saturate the outer cloth once glued to plywood instead of reduced paint & after it wasn't tacky I introduced the latex paint layered the coats on to build up the finish I was looking for .. with that thin cotton bed sheet I brought at the second hand store it came out great just like a air plane cloth & doped sanded & finished with paint ! It's amazing how will it's holding up exposed now over two years to Florida weather extreme hot sun & extreme rain ..lol I sure was surprised how well it's doing !
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
That's awesome and sounds like a solid process! Thanks for sharing your technique!
@electriceheads369
@electriceheads369 2 жыл бұрын
i loved it gunna build one my self now lol or buy one for a 60 day adventure lol
@mattski1979
@mattski1979 9 ай бұрын
You both should be building cabinetry on spaceships.great video. Thank you. You're awesome.
@thelwood
@thelwood 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@kylebarcomb6192
@kylebarcomb6192 Жыл бұрын
Thanx you showed me more than other vids
@derykmacleod4979
@derykmacleod4979 2 жыл бұрын
very cool...I am contemplating a build for my recumbent electric trike I mod'd to do some camping.
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That would be very cool!
@The_Exotica_Life
@The_Exotica_Life Жыл бұрын
Wow this is such a HUGE inspiration for me, I just subscribed! I’m wanting to do something like this for a dual sport motorcycle. Wish you had building plans for this ❤❤❤
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@iMapMultimedia
@iMapMultimedia Жыл бұрын
Very informative thanks. I am building my own modular trailer and am thinking of using the same technique. One concern I have is how to secure hinges (I will have a few because its modular) to the foam/glue/canvas body? I have some hinges that do carry a bit more weight than a door. Did you bolt through with the hinges or simply screw them on? Would you recommend additional trim work to better fasten the hinges? What has been your experience? Any info would be much appreciated.
@Doc_Fischer
@Doc_Fischer 11 ай бұрын
A recommendation for pulling your pleats is a mini set of needle nose pliers. A slight twist and tug works really well, especially if the material is wetted out. Good work . I’m looking at building a light weight trailer for a drag and drive setup , I will probably be going the same approach. Good job !
@thelwood
@thelwood 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great tip!
@cirelefebure5485
@cirelefebure5485 Жыл бұрын
thank you.
@campmansoutdoors6927
@campmansoutdoors6927 Жыл бұрын
I can see many bikers wanting one, like me!!😊 This would be an awesome addition to my motorcycling adventures!!! You should start a biz. I can see it becoming a smash hit, and a nice small biz.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chrisdennis5362
@chrisdennis5362 Жыл бұрын
You and your friend have inspired me. I have been looking for a trailer for me and the dogs to travel in on my CTX1300. Now I want to build a foamy like this. I would like to know how you attached the floor and some basic dimensions of this trailer. I look forward to following you further projects. This has been very enlightening for me.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The base trailer is 72"×40". The wood for the floor was attached with construction adhesive and screws and then carpet adhesive was used for under the carpet.
@DrMott
@DrMott Жыл бұрын
fantastic
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheBeardedDog
@TheBeardedDog 2 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial. As for the strength of PMF, I have a crazy story. I built a teardrop with a sandwich of luan on the inside with 3 layers of 3/4" foam and PMF on the outside. I had the unfortunate luck of being jarred awake one night while camping on the beach. I was awoken when a truck side swiped my trailer. Luckily, the only damage was paint transfer from the truck and my rear rack was a bit bent. I feel pretty fortunate to come out unscathed. I am not sure how the trailer would have faired if it was plywood sides.
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! That is amazing!!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing it!
@triker53
@triker53 2 жыл бұрын
How about a cycling camper trailer? I like the use of the PMF, nice job
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This could definitely be pretty easily modified down to a cycle trailer 😃
@johnthomas5806
@johnthomas5806 Жыл бұрын
looking good...a project I need to try...wondering what gage aluminum tubeing was used?
@biggiebird6887
@biggiebird6887 Ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that I need to wash and dry the canvas… do I do a straight water wash or is okay to use laundry detergent?
@samTollefson
@samTollefson Жыл бұрын
Very interesting tutorial! Starting in the 80s, I had a property management business taking care of large estates on the ocean on Jupiter Island in Hobe Sound, FL. One of my places had a huge deck over the beach looking out at the ocean that was covered with PMF, there were about 1" overlaps at 8' widths with a double row of brass tacks spaced every 1/2" holding the seams tight, I think that was the key to the long life, not letting any separation get started. Every couple of years I would paint it but it just lasted and lasted in all the sun and salt air on the beach! The house was originally built in the 40s and I moved on after 25 years in the mid-2000s. I am sure it is still there if the place has been properly maintained, amazing stuff! I don't think fiberglass would have lasted near as long as it would have separated from the wood and developed blisters, the canvas and paint allowed the covering to expand and contract a little with the seasonal changes. I believe it was the best choice for covering a large deck like that.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
That is awesome! It is really good stuff when properly applied and maintained!
@Tonisuperfly
@Tonisuperfly 10 ай бұрын
I’m trying to picture a deck like that, as I don’t have any reference. Our decks are always made out of wood slats here. Was this pmf covering wood sheets? How water drain off it? What colour was it? Thanks
@samTollefson
@samTollefson 10 ай бұрын
@@Tonisuperfly The place was built by a millionaire in the 1940's, I don't know what the actual decking material was but I did have to replace one of the stairways to the beach and it was made of teak so I suspect the decking was also made of teak. the deck had a slight grade to it, when the large picture windows were washed the water ran off the outer edge. In the 25 years I took care of the place all I ever did was clean and paint it every 1 or 2 years, the edge where it connected to the house was flashed with copper flashing like any roof situation. It was painted gray.
@Tonisuperfly
@Tonisuperfly 10 ай бұрын
@@samTollefson excellent. Thanks for your description. Your memory is outstanding!
@samTollefson
@samTollefson 10 ай бұрын
@@Tonisuperfly Thank You. After thinking about it, there is something I would like to add. The decking, I am positive, was tongue and groove planks not the gaped decking boards we think about today, as there was no separation apparent anywhere. The deck would have been sealed and a type of glue to adhere the canvas to the deck, it would not have been hide glue as it gets hard and brittle over time. I wish I knew the exact method used but I believe it would be very much like the PMF method people have been resurrecting today.
@perfilalmasviajeras7325
@perfilalmasviajeras7325 Жыл бұрын
Buen trabajo, me gustaría uno felicidades 😊
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bookscienfuegos1122
@bookscienfuegos1122 Жыл бұрын
This is such a great video as I am reading different comments on whether the PMF can create a nice finish or not. You really show the practical details needed to make it work. I was wondering if you have tried using a paint sprayer, the type that does not need a separate compressor. I was going to experiment this but thought you might have tried or know others who did. I am making a larger foamy so any time savings on the painting would be wonderful. thank you again!
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have not tried a sprayer but it should work pretty well
@GeometryBuild
@GeometryBuild 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cute! My booger would love to have one :)
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@reelisticoutdoors4358
@reelisticoutdoors4358 5 ай бұрын
Hi there, I have the budget for epoxy fiberglass on my next project but I was wondering about the maintenance with PMF. I will be using it mainly in the winter and the roads and salt have me concerned about wear. I have been wanting to try it out as its nicer in the shop and I dont need a mask.
@thelwood
@thelwood 5 ай бұрын
The low fume application is what appeals to me too. My PMF trailers haven't required any maintenance, but I do not have to worry about salt here in Arizona. You might be best served by epoxy fiberglass! I loved in Minnesota so I knew how fast salt can eat through anything!
@steveburns6628
@steveburns6628 Жыл бұрын
Your camper looks great! Some recommend glue below and above canvas. Did you apply second coat of glue? Once again, your project looks great.
@kassandraaarvig
@kassandraaarvig 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lucy thank you for sharing this very informative video. have you seen any signs of peeling or water damage? We just finished the frame work for our truck bed camper and we’re leaning towards this method. Any advise would be great!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I haven't had any issues with the 3 trailers I have used this technique on. Just make sure there is adequate glue at the seams. And apply several coats of paint! :)
@user-ek2dz1tw7g
@user-ek2dz1tw7g 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic video and your attention to detail is great! Can I ask you: Do you let the Titebond dry at all before draping the canvas upon the build and do you go straight to it? I'm trying to plan how much working time I'll have, and what size of sections I should be working with. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and skill!
@thelwood
@thelwood 7 ай бұрын
I apply the canvas right after I apply the glue!
@brunoalan2843
@brunoalan2843 2 жыл бұрын
Parabéns pelo belíssimo trabalho. Que produto é esse que você passa no trayler ? Também gostaria de saber que tecido foi usado ?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I used titebond II for the glue, 8 oz canvas drop clothes and then 50/50 water to paint, then 25/75 water to paint then 3 coats of 100% exterior paint.
@joellikness2121
@joellikness2121 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've watched a ton of PMF videos and tutorials, this one is getting saved! Still in the planning stages on mine, but is there a certain weight canvas you prefer?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I use the 8oz drop clothes from home depot
@meandmyRC99
@meandmyRC99 11 ай бұрын
That all looks amazing. The work you do to get the cotton flat is awesome. Have you tried any other materials besides cotton? I am wanting to make interior foam a little more durable, and cotton seems like overkill just for that. Anyway, good job!
@thelwood
@thelwood 11 ай бұрын
I haven't tried anything else, but bed sheets should work well for that!
@DerekSpeareDSD
@DerekSpeareDSD 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone thought of applying Flex Seal as the final coat once paint is done? Is it needed?
@hollyr8788
@hollyr8788 Жыл бұрын
Nice work do think this is easier than using epoxy and real fiberglass? I worked with epoxy but its very expensive . Just wondering since you have done both? TY
@JonnyDIY
@JonnyDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Wow never seen it done better! 👍 Whats your tool of choice for scoring the foam? I've heard a wire dog brush works well 🤔
@JonnyDIY
@JonnyDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw another comment about wall paper tool and then sanding block! 👍
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonnyDIYthank you! yes! The sanding block was awesome! The wall paper tool also worked well!
@robertschulke1596
@robertschulke1596 Жыл бұрын
Exterior latex paint is made to weather away like chalk over time in order to keep the exterior of a house looking fresh. You might consider interior gloss bathroom paint. It is much harder and less water permeable.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea! I would be interested to run trials of both!
@meandmyRC99
@meandmyRC99 11 ай бұрын
The toughest test is time. Interesting idea though.
@AlexT-md9df
@AlexT-md9df 11 ай бұрын
I have a Suzuki sidekick that only allows me to pull 1000 lbs max. I’m hoping to make a slightly larger version of this
@williamkastrinos463
@williamkastrinos463 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Some of the links don't work anymore. Any updates on fabric, and roller covers?
@garyhitchcock8623
@garyhitchcock8623 2 жыл бұрын
where can I get patterns for sides, windows, door ect. I wan to make one that looks like a cabin car trailer for my scooter
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Tom may be willing to share his files with you. However, I suggest the outer grid be enlarged so the roof can go on the top instead of between the walls. These were already cnc before all design elements had been confirmed. Happy building!
@1320freek
@1320freek Жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s awesome work!!!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Obviously, just discovered your channel and the video is close to a year old, how is it holding up? I love the foam idea and am curious about how strong it is with the PMF . Thank you!
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It is holding up really well!
@patrickkelly2635
@patrickkelly2635 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Tutorial Lucy! Was just wondering if you let the glue dry overnight before you add the 50:50 paint water mix or right after you iron down the glue and canvas ?
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Yes I let the glue dry overnight:)
@wiggin5000
@wiggin5000 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! This is incredible - makes so much sense! I have just Titebond 2’d the canvas on to my camping trailer build and am going to go and buy the paint soon. What brand of exterior paints did you use? I’m in the UK and everything here is labeled as “fence paint”, “masonry paint”, “Outdoor furniture paint” or “Decking paint”! Curious to know the brands you used to see if I can find an equivalent over here! Thanks again!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We used behr paint. I guess outdoor furniture paint would probably be the same
@doug759
@doug759 2 ай бұрын
just came across this. the PMF coating looks great, the whole trailer looks great. Do you water down the glue as well? and how many coats of paint did you end up using ? also, what are your thoughts on using bed sheets for the cloth?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 ай бұрын
I don't water down the glue. I do 50/50 coat a 75/25 coat and 3 full coats sand between. Bed sheets will work, but I like the thick protection from the canvas. Happy building!
@altaloma7789
@altaloma7789 Жыл бұрын
So many questions. On other how-to videos they apply a layer of glue to the outside of the canvas, then move to putting on the paint. You move directly to paint on the canvas. I suspect the glue layer to be somewhat hydroscopic (soaks in moisture from humidity), but I'm curious why the difference between methods. I'm also curious about your cure schedules for glue and thinned paints. Any guidance?
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
I have seen people use glue over the canvas. I have done 3 trailers with the more "original " pmf (or what i can seem to find of it anyway) of water diluted paint. The diluted layers really absorb deeply into the canvas. The areas where I have had too much glue and it seeped through the canvas were harder to get the paint to really adhere to. 1 of my trailers has been outside for several years and it is still in perfect shape. You could do trials of both techniques side by side to see which you like better. My concern with the glue method would be sanding off the paint in between coats (if you are looking for a nice smooth surface) . Thanks for your question!
@Threeheadsrk
@Threeheadsrk 3 ай бұрын
Any benefit to using primer as your first coat? Got a can of exterior water based primer I’d like to use up
@thelwood
@thelwood 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if their is a benefit, but certainly no harm in using primer!
@Gunter8571
@Gunter8571 Жыл бұрын
Do you water down the glue and can you use bedsheets for the canvas Love the video Grts from Belgium
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
There is no need to water down the glue and I have seen people use bed sheets. I like the thicker porous elements of the canvas. I think it is probably stronger. But I have never done a direct comparison 😃
@dantejones4551
@dantejones4551 2 жыл бұрын
How rigid is the trailer after applying the PMF (especially after the kerfing)? I'm going to start a project and I'm wondering how much extra bracing I'm going to need.
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dante, the sides without the kerfing are very strong. For the roof it definitely needed the wooden dowels as spars to help strengthen it. If it were going to have to withstand snow on the roof, I would also put 1/8 baltic birch over the top. Here in Arizona that isn't an issue. The sides were cnc cut before I had input on the design of them, the area by the door was very thin... only an inch of foam above the door! So there wasn't room for wooden dowels there. To strengthen that part I actually put 1/2" x 1/16" aluminum bar right into the kerfs on each side of vent using exopy. That added a lot of strength!
@indigo196799
@indigo196799 Жыл бұрын
There are many weight of cotton canvas drop cloth available. from 8 to 18 oz. Which would you recommend? The thickest the better?
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
I use 8oz and it is plenty thick and easy to work with
@oddojaggins
@oddojaggins 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of ambient temperature do I want when performing this work? I want to make one of these over the winter in my garage and I can heat it to a certain extent but do I have to worry about drying issues if it's a really cold one?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Cold temperatures will slow the drying time, but as long as you allow ample time between coats you should be okay. If you can get it to up to at least 50 degrees that would be great.
@warrenbenton9033
@warrenbenton9033 6 ай бұрын
Hello again. Can you confirm couple things please. You coat the foam/ply in 1 good coat of tight bond 2 with smooth roller . It's only 1 coat? And isnt watered down? Then your first coat of paint is 50/50 2nd 75/25 top 3 coats straight water based exterior paint? Thanks again.
@thelwood
@thelwood 6 ай бұрын
Yes, that is all accurate
@danprior7693
@danprior7693 2 жыл бұрын
When you washed and dried the canvas, did you just use regular detergent and high heat in the dryer?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I only used a little but of detergent do there wouldn't be any residue and definitely high heat dry! 😃
@knowsnugget3321
@knowsnugget3321 10 ай бұрын
LOVE TO HAVE PLANS FOR THIS TRAILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@thelwood
@thelwood 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! There are no formal plans since we were pretty much figuring it out as we went :)
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 16 күн бұрын
You can make an easier camper tear drops are harder you could go with a square back no curves. Kinda like runaway campers just don't copy theirs. 73
@festerhairball6588
@festerhairball6588 2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber......What sheen of latex paint did you use? I know flat a paint will adhere better than say a semi-gloss or gloss, but flat paints don't have flexibility. Just wondering if you experimented on the sheen. Thanks!
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome! The base coats were a flat exterior paint but the full strength coats were satin sheen :)
@pamojja
@pamojja 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your excellent tutorial. How have been your experiences in the long term concerning the resistance against solvents? Does the PMF layer prevent accidental exposure, for example at gas stations, from diffusing through to the XPS, and therefore damage? Thanks, and best wishes.
@thelwood
@thelwood 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! The PMF has held up really great on my trailers. However, they have had low exposure to solvents. That is an excellent question. Airplanes used to be coated in it. I also live in the desert so I don't have salted roads and stuff to deal with. Sorry that I don't have more definitive answers to that great question
@pamojja
@pamojja 3 ай бұрын
@@thelwoodThanks. I'll report what I find out. I was asking because I temporarily placed a 5-inch thick in front of a broken glass balcony door. Obviously, just a little gas from the double window was enough to melt a dent. Even that thick XPS plate due to that bowed in the opposite direction.
@thelwood
@thelwood 3 ай бұрын
@@pamojja wow!
@chloemakesthings5380
@chloemakesthings5380 Жыл бұрын
Hey Lucy, we are about to start our camper build, do you think it would affect the strength and or look if we joined two pieces of canvas on one side? our canvas is 5meters long and its really hard to find seamless canvas at that size.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
It will be fine from a strength standpoint. I think you can find a creative way to cover the seam, or get creative with the paint job to incorporate it :)
@garywells3874
@garywells3874 2 жыл бұрын
You said that you scored the foam after sanding for better adhesion of the fabric to the foam - how did you score the foam?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, we used a wall paper scoring tool for some of it. Then we found 150 grit sand paper on a solid block of wood seemed to work very well too.
@MelissaSher-yr8mq
@MelissaSher-yr8mq 8 ай бұрын
Hey! If I have a bunch of exterior primer would that work as the fist 50/50 coat? Also how long did you wait on the glue before paint - thank you!
@thelwood
@thelwood 8 ай бұрын
That will work very well! I leave it over night before painting
@MelissaSher-yr8mq
@MelissaSher-yr8mq 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the reply - love your videos!
@smg604
@smg604 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this clear explanation! Looking forward to trying it myself. I had a question about the curve of the teardrop. You said you did the inside walls, did you mean only the upright parts, or did you do the "ceiling" too? I'm just trying to figure out if it'd be possible without having it already mounted on the walls somehow.
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Great question! I just did the side walls not the ceiling! That would have been a pain... lol
@smg604
@smg604 Жыл бұрын
@@thelwood Yeah, I was having trouble imagining being in there upside down trying to iron out wrinkles and then applying the very drippy paint. :) One other question, I was wondering about using 4oz cotton for a bicycle trailer to save weight rather than a standard 10oz, which would save about ~10 lbs. Do you have any experience with other fabrics and if/how they work?
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
@@smg604 I have not worked with lighter fabric, but I would think it would work. I would do a small sample and see how it feels
@gwapojudkoalangan
@gwapojudkoalangan 10 ай бұрын
what if you use epoxy resin instead of paint?
@jwiereng
@jwiereng Жыл бұрын
6:35 Do you have any experience with oil alkyd paints? I assume they would need to be mixed with a suitable thinner instead of water. I have an affinity for for metal and wood finishing with Tremclad - Canadian Rustoleum
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
Great question! I used rustoleum hammered for my little cargo trailer, I still did the undercoats with water/latex paint. I am not sure how well thinned oil based paints would absorb into the canvas. I would have to do a small trial piece first. The cargo trailer loves outside and and the finish is still in excellent shape.
@ruthdoyle9085
@ruthdoyle9085 Жыл бұрын
Indoor or exterior paint works fine for first few coats... you can also use paint instead of the glue... basically does the same job...
@MabrysDad
@MabrysDad 2 жыл бұрын
Did you dilute the TiteBond II when attaching the canvas or use it full strength?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Full strength
@jorddekoning6816
@jorddekoning6816 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Lucy, great tutorial! How much woodglue did you use to create the shell?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I used a smooth roller cover. It took about 1/2 gallon total
@warrenbenton9033
@warrenbenton9033 6 ай бұрын
Hello again I'm doing mine over plywood. What grit sand paper would you recommend using before gluing ? Cheers
@thelwood
@thelwood 6 ай бұрын
120 would be good
@warrenbenton9033
@warrenbenton9033 6 ай бұрын
@@thelwood Thank you.
@bellrobert1978
@bellrobert1978 Жыл бұрын
When you say exterior paint do you mean for timber or masonry?
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
I have always used timber paint like house paint
@annat7515
@annat7515 2 жыл бұрын
This may be a silly question but do you let the glue dry before painting?
@thelwood
@thelwood 2 жыл бұрын
Great question! Yes, I let it dry over night 😃
@historygradstu
@historygradstu Жыл бұрын
Hi, do you thin the glue any or just apply the titebond straight from the jug?
@thelwood
@thelwood Жыл бұрын
The glue goes on straight from the jug!
@historygradstu
@historygradstu Жыл бұрын
@@thelwood thank you!...I'm going to give it a go with a camper shell for my truck.
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