TEKKEN TAG Heihachi Has The Best EWGF In History

[@TheMainManSWE]

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[@kingvinny6805]

TheMainManSWE thank you TMM definitely checking it out.

[@DreGamingNetwork]

Thank you TheMainEWGFManSWE

[@jeetkundough6224]

Thanks for the quality content.

[@castieldiallo2945]

not sure about that. heihachi was defo top tier. jin's ewgf was best. it sent opponents flying away on counter hit. a great move if you wanted to regroup.

[@BillysKiller7]

You definately know who to pinpoint. Peter seems like a great guy and very helpful. Thanks mainman.

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

Electric into Grandson. The best combo.

[@Shieldclock]

Electric into Grandson is a natural combo and on block is +3 proud frames

[@matiassa7]

I like how "into grandson" can be used as a description for real tech in this game.

[@DarnellTyrese]

5:21 I geht an electric into grandson. LOL

[@BlackV4You]

Lmao

[@seiryu265]

Moral of the story: Mishimas were overporwered in TTT. P.S: See Jun it makes me wish to see her in Tekken again.

[@jeremyfuller7730]

She is in Tekken. She just changed her name to Asuka

[@seiryu265]

@@jeremyfuller7730 a character that I really dislike. (my opinion) I can't stand her since T5. I hate compared her with Jun.

[@Steambull1]

The time gap (story-wise) between Tekken 2 and 3 mixed up the roster when it comes to classic characters, but in Tekken 5 they realized people want them back, so they decided to do so without caring about them all being 60-70 years old when it comes to the story. For the women they needed an excuse (because they have to look beautiful and youthful), like Nina and Anna being "frozen" and thus not aging. Just make Jun come out of some random healing tree where she's been for half a century or however long it is now from T2. It's not like the story hasn't already been ridiculous for decades IRL...

[@jeraldthomas3445]

@@Steambull1 wasn't it only a 19 year gap

[@Pokechao]

@@jeremyfuller7730 tag 2 changed Jun to the point wheres completely different from Asuka. I would love to see her Tag 2 moveset come into T7

[@damastah100]

5:37 OH MY GOOOO-AAAHHNNN~D!

[@ELGF_CKJ]

5:37 for this reason alone, u earned a sub

[@hessiankyojin]

I like how "into grandson" is a synonymous phrase for TTT since inception due to this team and how amazing Jin as the best Tag partner.

[@fake.reb129]

*long time without playing Tekken but still execute ewgf* Me: i'm still worthy.

[@arsalanonlineofficial]

REBB REBB i mean I know how to sidestep block and shit but damn my electrics are way more consistent. Idk how That happened tho

[@J0ulez5]

⬅️✳️⬇️↙️

[@ferdinandgombkoto]

➡️⭐⬇️↘️2️⃣

[@Sthedarkslayer3145]

That's if you're on the right

[@bridyboo3967]

5:37 we're not talking about this?

[@JunKazamaFan]

Bridyboo :3 TheMainManScreech.

[@bradwashington420]

XD

[@TheXna97]

White people be like

[@Nizar33750]

I came to the comments for this.

[@lavulian]

4:47 Isn't that Josie on the right

[@aligamerable]

4:26 Plot Twist: Heihachi in T7 chapter 14 (when they both ascend power level) can use this by pressing d/f+1, 1+2

[@er7776]

Wow that is pretty cool

[@rafael.lanzieri]

"Electric into Grandson" is best Kombo

[@reda7779]

5:37 first time hearing mainman like that

[@allkinds1069]

Nobody: TMM: THIS IS THE BEST MOVE IN TEKKEN HISTORY (ss teir)

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

My God, I was playing Tekken 3 just recently and although he is a strong as hell character in this game, one combo from Jin in Tekken 3 could do upwards of 96 damage, with the max I've seen being 106 but I wouldn't be surprised if he could do even more than that. (By the way the combo itself has great mix-up variety and is safe on block because of its pushback, ridiculous that a combo that does so much damage with so little execution is also safe on block.)

[@jeraldthomas3445]

T3 jin I think can get up to 117 possibly 120s on counter it's been awhile since I have seen it

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

@@jeraldthomas3445 Thank you, I wasn't completely sure of the total damage because a lot of the time I don't pay attention to the numbers unless I'm in practice mode and it tells me the numbers.

[@dionysysentertainer3261]

thanks to linking up with someone teaching fundamentals. it doesn't feel like many new players have learned them after DR and this should be amazing.

[@JunKazamaFan]

That d+4_FC+4 coverage instilled a great happiness within me.

[@Gorzz96]

In this game QCF 2 felt like a death fist for hei.

[@notbryun]

4:26 he definitely wasn't expecting for Kazuya to have it as a CH in T8 haha

[@Moni_G2E]

Into grandson 😂😭

[@bartdude82]

Oh how I miss Jun. She looks so beautiful here in these PS2 graphics lol. Love her stance and moveset

[@JunKazamaFan]

bartdude82 In some ways, I think Jun looks even more gorgeous here than in Tekken Tag Tournament 2.

[@TownsRelaibleBronxstenian]

@@JunKazamaFan young people do look better than their aged counter parts sometimes `\(o_o)/`

[@SaintedPIacebo]

The heihachi f4 crouching into electric is something that they gave devil kazuya. its such a bad ass looking combo. and it does stupid damage.

[@hpesojogladih9782]

I hope Jun Kazama will be a dlc for season 3 if theres going to be.

[@CErra310]

:(

[@tahsin.a1046]

There's no point of that. She'll most likely be apart of the story for tekken 8.

[@SafirLamkhantar]

5:36 Thank me later

[@JunKazamaFan]

Safir Lamkhantar 5:41

[@madnesssupreme]

I forgot how Jin actually sounded more light hearted and almost like he was having fun during a fight: Olah! (Ignore the fact because he was a god back then)

[@danqfrank44]

That game looks really really good

[@HaipaSonikku]

That's what happens when games used to focus on polygons instead of bullshit effects these days to mask the count. DOA 6 is one of the few games that still do this.

[@Music_and_FightingGames]

It’s crazy I never even realized Heihachi had db3 in tag 1. Wow

[@melee5568]

I don't have the means to play tekken. But i enjoy watching MainManIronSwee talk about tekken and stuff.

[@player218]

These videos are hidden gems. I swear

[@jeetkundough6224]

TMM your not old. You will always be 1 year younger than me :)

[@justaotter2085]

Soul caliber hei in thumbnail let's gooo

[@Cherry91]

Speaking of Jun, can you make a video about her please? That would be nice!

[@JunKazamaFan]

Cherry91 She definitely is a character worth covering, yes.

[@qudratzazai]

They better fucking bring back the tt1 mishimas for tekken 8

[@KamusariHR]

I liked the voice from heihachi in this game sounds more like a mishima

[@Ninjabob568]

my boy peter! thank god he got a shout out. awesome videos

[@lolololohacketthackett5142]

You should make a series/playlist out of this, it’s like ‘tekken’ back to the past (hint hint)

[@Thoughtpologetics]

I came in second at the tournament back in the day here in Omaha… I used the old man and law Lost to a guy that used both kings… once he grabbed you… it was over… that grapple chain was horrible

[@АртурГорошко-и7ш]

Nice to see mama kazama, how long it be. Only TP makes Hei god tier in Tekken 7, mid electric not bad at all) I wish Hei do not go "into grandson" it has be another way!

[@aligamerable]

Yeah in story mode Chapter 14 you can use Heihachi's old Twin Pistons by pressing d/f+1,1+2. And also delayed WGF from T4 with extreme pushback on block.

[@alexmalonelife]

That’s awesome!! Peter is a great guy!

[@holden6104]

Heihachi didn't have the best electric. The electric version won't come out of a forward dash or wavedash, you will just get regular wgf. I remember back then people were doing wave, tap back, ewgf pretty smoothly with Hei, but it was still a huge setback. Jin's ewgf was a high but still by far the better move because you could dash it. The added range allowed Jin to completely control the spacing.

[@UNCONKABLE]

Did you used to play Hwoarang and Baek in TTT?

[@holden6104]

@@UNCONKABLE I'm not the guy you're thinking of. I know who you're referring to though.

[@CGoody564]

Thanks. Brand new to Tekken. Actually, fighting games at all I'm new too

[@Dondo_Golden_Rose]

What is the quality on his facecam? It looks so good. And he actually looks like a content creator who is also a father now compared to him looking like he’s still in his 20s. I mean he still kinda looks that way

[@pbone5880]

That oh my god. I have no words.

[@SoftwareEngineerDoes]

Afair tag1 had 8f jab chars, so moves that are safe today weren't back then. Also, SS was huge and punishing whiffs was the main strat.

[@ivanavina]

Main man can you make a anti lei guide he’s worst than Ling and Jin really has no lows to stop him from laying down all the time

[@Mo-Thug]

5:35 thank me later

[@Blaze-ow8cc]

XD oh my gooooood

[@tippingguy8514]

ff3 is -1 on guard according to the tekken zaibatsu

[@HaipaSonikku]

Jin / Heihachi was the team.

[@Jezuzss]

5:36 TheMainGirlSWE here

[@acejinwolfdemon6927]

I’ll check it for you.

[@Kozi15]

So where is Bruce TTT1?

[@nixuniverse5240]

Boys these days are afraid to moan, I be in my girl ear like 5:36

[@RisingJericho]

Hey wait... can you low parry that Electric?

[@cinnatiohiocy4281]

Make a video on Jacks back snapper. The most violent move and tekkem history.

[@zakillah9702]

Actually, you cant tag the electric. Buffered tag turns it into normal WGF. Go ahead, set a dummy on guard and tagbuffer every EWGF. You wont get any. Also, EWGF doesnt give that huge pushback on crouch guard, only normal WGF does.

[@coveringgrape5251]

Yeah to add to what this guy said I spent 2 hours practicing and here’s what I found. Jin electric is a high. The EWGF has the plus frames and pushback but is a high. Tag buffering it turns it into a mid but on block it doesn’t have the plus frames (becomes like normal WGF frames but has the electric animation). You can sometimes tag buffer a normal WGF into a mid as well and it doesn’t have the electric animation as expected. Heihachi WGF is a mid. Normal has the minus frames on standing block. EWGF has the pushback and plus frames on standing block. Crouch block is where it gets interesting. Since it’s a special mid it does get blocked but pushes them back as mainman demonstrated and the frames are neutral it feels (or maybe plus, but definitely not minus). But if you EWGF a crouching opponent it does the opposite of a standing one and it does not push them back very far, still gives you the plus frames or neutral, and has the electricity animation. So it seems for crouching opponents doing an electric is better since it keeps you close for more pressure. But if you stuff it up and miss the electric you push them back super far and might be neutral frames anyways. So for the opponent it’s better for them never to duck electric from heihachi, since you’re only chance of punishing it is a missed electric (normal WGF) that you standing block. Everything else is safe!

[@cank2111]

@@coveringgrape5251 and even if you block a WGF you basicly only lose your turn cuz none then Devil can really punish it, also heihachis Electric can also tech catch in this game, since you cant do it from a dash you have to do EWGF into cd1,4, only does 55 dmg but they right next to you and if they tech you can do a timed electric and catch them, do this combo again and they in a devestating loop of guessing, also b2 is a really good tech catch since the electric is not easy, b2 also unparryable. Also his 2nd and 3rd low of the hellsweep is safe, TMM didnt research well but who will know this stuff if you dont test it, since it was so early there isnt alot on the internet about Tag1.

[@rivashnaidoo6267]

RIP headphone users at 7:38

[@jinogre4254]

Just a few finer points that he doesn’t know or just forgot to mention. Heihachi cannot wavedash into his ewgf, it can only be done from a single crouch dash. F4 can be done from cd but unlike in Tekken 7 you have to cancel the cd ie f,n,d,d/f,b,f4. You can’t go straight from cd to f4 you’ll always get standing 4 if you do. Heihachi is good but there are quite a few characters better than him.

[@pillowcroco3922]

f f f n d df+2 ensure ewgf. and fnddf ff4 also works. you dont have to input b

[@jinogre4254]

No you cannot do f,f4 and get f4 in Tag1, you can in Tekken 7 though.

[@pillowcroco3922]

oh really sry about that. but at least i made it right for ewgf( i wish)

[@jinogre4254]

Actually no, Heihachi unlike Jin can’t wavedash into electric nor can he dash electric. His ewgf has to be done from a single cd, no dash, he can however ss into electric. Fire up Tag1 and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Mainman makes it sound like hei’s electric is the best in the game, but Jin’s is still better bc you can wavedash electric and dash electric.

[@pillowcroco3922]

man sorry i found that you are right. hei's ewgf is too limited as you said.

[@What-kn1sr]

Telkken 3 heihachi has the best ewgf, you cant even duck that.

[@justagamethrower]

*Tag in the grandson*

[@mariogibson1278]

B+1 in this game was a great move too

[@erazzer21]

I thought u can parry special mids (like dickjabs) so the heihachi electric could be parried?!

[@Julleeus]

There's no low parry in tekken until tekken 4

[@berkze2076]

You can parry every electric cant you?

[@1Diddums]

@@Julleeus Misinformation. There are low parries in TTT and T3. His electric may be a s-mid, but you can't low parry it.

[@Julleeus]

@@1Diddums damn you're right. My bad

[@erazzer21]

@@1Diddums interesting that it was this way, ty :)

[@pf3278]

Always wonder what would happen when if that move was a mid

[@CryingLord]

Back+1,2,1 is my favorite heihachi move #demonmassacre

[@rippedreaper7279]

"You never wanna play this game without Jin in your team" I will whoop your ass with Paul + Law, Kazuya + Devil, King + Armored King

[@CErra310]

No you won't

[@Nemo2807]

You cant dash and do Hehachis ewgf. it is only when he is standing. Only Jin can do a dashing ewgf.

[@coveringgrape5251]

Oh thanks. I spent hours figuring out why my inputs weren’t working. Didn’t realise the dashes were stopping the electrics.

[@Mo-Thug]

That's me.

[@iTzAnger]

Can you low parry the electric? Because you can party the dick jab which is also a special mid

[@GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4]

I don't use the grandson tbh 😅 My best teams are; Kazuya - Devil, Kazuya - Paul, Kazuya - Heihachi and Paul - Devil 💪💪

[@atuls55]

Heihachi had a true mid EWGF in Tekken 3 though. Also when your talking about balance and overpowered stuff you should look at it in the context of the series up to that point. I think there was in general more broken stuff the further back you go and it gradually got toned down as the series went on.

[@stambe8605]

Hei had only mid WGF in T3 (no EWGF). Only Jin had EWGF in T3 and it was high and +5 on block like the EWGFs of today.

[@atuls55]

@@stambe8605 I thought he had an EWGF in T3 but I guess his was introduced in TTT1. I do remember Heihachi's TTT1 EWGF being harder to do than Jin's, and I think it was only made the same in T5.

[@zakillah9702]

No EWGF for Hei in T3. Heis TTT godfist is the hardest to execute, yes. You also cant do EWGF out of wavedash or forward dash. (No dash EWGF possible). So yeah, very strict.

[@JETN]

Hi TMM, Just a quick question with a follow-up question, wasn't universal low parry introduced in TTT? I didn't play the game all that much but i have a vague memory of being able to parry dickjabs and low kicks. If it was universal and worked against other special mids would one be able to low parry a s.mid ewgf/wgf?

[@cank2111]

No, SPM EWGF/WGF couldnt be low parried.

[@Abe00009]

i guess we can low parry the EWGF?!?!

[@cank2111]

No, cant be low parried.

[@Abe00009]

@@cank2111 what a shame, i thought you can low parry it since special mid can be low parried and heihachi ewgf is special mid

[@yomi_jeremy3964]

Heihachi has lower stamina than the other mishimas

[@JunKazamaFan]

jeremy phan Kazumi might disagree.

[@blessup367]

@@JunKazamaFan is that meant to be sexual lol

[@DTownNash]

Jun Next?

[@JunKazamaFan]

TheLNashProject Seems likely.

[@aviades2815]

Hehachi is a monster, one of my fav and mains. you missed some moves like: 1+2. POG he is a pounding machine. But can find himself powerless vs some heroes. Like Nina. you don't take into account Reversal-attack skill. and as you said, most of hehachi power is high and mid, there for Nina can eat him up alive. Also, most players don't just stand and block, but also throw hits themselves. so nothing is really save if you accidently tried it at the wrong time vs Paul death-fist LUL. hehachi also have law HP cos of his high dmg output. he is like Brian's lvl of power imo Very very strong and fun. i would terrorize people with him LUL

[@dionysysentertainer3261]

wish you played tag for a week or two against someone good before doing this series. you're right about the ewgf, but you're leaving out SS was massive in the game. getting around electrics wasn't close to impossible in tag. you left out qcf2 or ch hunting with 4. b1 was used more than b2 since it didn't end the pressure or create all that space on counter. also b2, former 10string only move, isn't able to be countered or parried.

[@cank2111]

B2 also really good tech catch.

[@rongill1234]

super late but this is the game that made me hate hei as a char and got super happy in 5 when raven even said he was dead (picked up raven for this reason) only to find out he was alive.... then hei dies again in t7 only to be a dlc char....

[@Cherry91]

TMM why did you put Jun as a dummy?😭😭😭 Kaz pls come here and smack this old guy into outer space!👌 Jokes aside, good video as always. But pls don't use Jun as a dummy next time. Hit the bears instead since you don't like them. They're perfect punching bags!😉

[@victorfranca85]

IM A MISHIMA EXPERT!!!!!!!!!!!

[@muhammada5164]

Can anybody tell me where to download this game that runs smoothly?

[@FallenAngel2k02]

Just mod a ps2

[@mr.johnny2878]

from sweden, fails multiple times, does it once, "first try" . . . I'm talking about pewdiepie

[@lhautlow]

Can we play Tag 1 online ?

[@RanielL]

Tekken 3 ewgf of heihachi is the best. Its MID there. You cant duck it

[@Gonzakoable]

BTW, why are you doing content for this old game?

[@JunKazamaFan]

Gonzakoable History and nostalgia purposes.

[@retroonyoutube5402]

Because were sick of Tekken 7

[@playeah1]

Because why not?

[@TheHistorianKing]

Tekken Tag 1 is a classic. What you talking bout? LOL

[@MrGatsu]

All the mishimas are OP af in tag 1 it’s not even funny.

[@mikealpha8779]

wasnt the tekken 3 hei EWGF all this plus MID, not special MID?

[@cank2111]

It was only a normal wind god fist, no pushback and plus frames, but a fucking true mid 🥴

wrong very wrong heihachis ewgf in t3 is the best ever because it hits mid a mid hitting ewgf automatically makes it the best ever hei was top tier in t3 has pauls detah fist mid ewgf df 12 ff2 f4 spinning demon that couldnt be low parried that alone made heihachi god tier over jin

[@Sageretowns]

Is it possible to do DBZ fighting game based on Tekken mechanics ?

[@bzchii7474]

I really don’t think that the inhumanly swift fighting in DBZ can be combined with tekken.

[@mauricio7992]

omg TTT 1 wooo amazinh game!!!!!!!!😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@JetJenkins]

I'm gonna sound like a total thirsty fuckboy right now, but I actually think Jun looks gorgeous here. Maybe it's just because of a lack of classy ladies in Tekken 7 or something.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Jet Jenkins You're not wrong. Tekken Tag Tournament 1 Jun puts all the Tekken 7 ladies to shame with her class and stunning good looks!

[@taylorbee4010]

Hei had some bad hp though

[@JohnnyDarko01]

Electric into grandson XD XD XD

[@javonwj23]

First commentt

[@gltins69]

Jun

[@josepartida1711]

God I hope they really don’t make another tag game It’s something I can’t deal with. I can barely play tekken 7, another tag will destroy me 🙄

[@TheUnique69able]

who else feels that the namco team is so lazy that the character moves are almost the exact same 4 generations ago

[@Tongue.Tornado]

Only you

[@MrAshar101]

Yup i agree only you .....nobody wants character to have differenr moves every iteration of the game .....i mean Jin was the only character to have his move list extensively changed , the reason was also explained very well by the story arc .....

[@playeah1]

Your on your own man. Do you want dragunov's arms to stretch like dhalsim's? No?

[@TheUnique69able]

I didn't say the character entirely. Its just that new key moves and strings aren't seen almost never

[@Tongue.Tornado]

@@TheUnique69able it's not a key move if it's not seen and full strings haven't been good in higher levels of play