This Is Why Paul Is Still A Problem

[@Axelerated]

As a Paul main, I will now take your advice to exploit this further.

[@danielbraun2939]

Same here;)

[@joshuaxiong8377]

Can you at least also rough up the very powerful DLC characters? With great power, comes great responsibility to make Leroy, Fahk, etc. work for their wins.

[@Anivrat1]

😂😂😂😂

[@King_Baldwin_IV_777]

Paul phoenix forever 🔥🌩️⛈️🗿🐺

[@Mokujinko]

While we're talking about the throw game, don't forget he can use his Kongo Blast command grab to just grab a little damage and frame advantage or he can use it as an alternate wallsplat. So close to the wall, you can be expecting that 1+2 break and he can go for the KB, you use the wrong break and he gets the same wall combo afterwards. And that his other 1+2 throw floorbreaks for a full combo. With Paul, it just never ends.

[@Yamisaru]

Thats why I love him hahaha

[@FG_Watcher]

The guy knows judo ofcourse he is going to have amazing throws

[@IvanOrdell]

Wtf is kongo blast? Just input notations

[@likes2999]

Ordell ff1+2

[@Mokujinko]

@@IvanOrdell df1+3 for frames, or input the second part of the throw with qcf2 for the wallsplat/ balcony break. It's a 1break throw.

[@JunKazamaFan]

It never dawned on me how many ways Paul can launch. It's insane!

[@ArcherDigitalFinance]

I’ve always thought that was an issue too

[@since2133]

Bryan too

[@Daytimeprophet3]

@@since2133 Bryan's more balanced

[@since2133]

HueyDaProphet yes as a Bryan main you’d say that. But he’s also too strong. His pushback moves need some nerfs.

[@Daytimeprophet3]

@@since2133 I'm not a bryan main my friend mains him. Bryan doesn't really have good crushing or panic moves and only like two of his good moves have pushback

[@OddSauce]

I'm fine with Paul having high damage, that's part of the character, I just wish he was less evasive and less safe on those moves that net him big damage

[@Gorecatto]

Df2 is basically the only evasive problem with him , other evasive moves are slow , comes from QCF/QCB which the movement itself ducks and some of his lows And his moves that lend to big damage are generally QCB4 , QCB1 and b2 charged 1 One is high , the other is steppable , and the last one is well...charged, there is also UB2 but most people dont use it, and its not fast All his other launchers only get big damage with rage

[@EaastonCams]

God of Demência tf you on

[@muhtadaali8847]

@@Gorecatto thats what I mean. every low tier pro will cry about Paul. but pros will never complain. They know he has weaknesses.

[@KingGodzilla0]

Muhtada Ali L

[@MarcusDobson916]

@@Gorecatto lol you trippin. Paul doesn't even need df2. He would be totally fine without it...

[@Games4Days912]

Paul's df2 beats EVERYTHING

[@sethandrews401]

Played my dad tonight and he kicked the shit out of me with Paul. My dads name is also Paul😂😂😂

[@bluelion7342]

Can't wait until I have a kid when they play tekken 11 thinking he's the shit until I beat the brakes off him. Son I've been playing this game for 40 years!

[@cakemix5877]

Finally a good reason to have kids.

[@kyuu76]

so basically Paul using Paul to wrecked Paul's son

[@usernameluis305]

What a coincidence

[@LwandileDL]

How old are you?

[@afrikasmith1049]

Name of the video: This is why Paul is still a problem. Real name of the video: This is how you use Paul like a pro. Me: Thanks for the tips.

[@BellowDGaming]

Indeed this video is for high level players, he ranks Paul in a B and he still asks for nerfs.

[@mohdzulfadli6276]

Exactly. Low-key *pssst.. all you Paul players who still having trouble ranking.. check this out* mainman is the best #EISH

[@shashankrai5808]

Yes just spam OP moves, very pro

[@awaisakram8573]

BellowD Gaming because all his fans are fucking noobs who run into Paul a lot and they don’t know how to counter his stuff for shit so this and they actually believe everything he did in the video is reliable/practical

[@jaycha4983]

Shashank Rai I didn’t know sway 2 and crouch dash 3 was OP. That’s just noob thinking come on now.

[@mistashadow]

_irate yelling_ And half your HP is gone. That said, I feel "hard hitter" suits Paul, but..

[@mrbarefootbogan6254]

Half? He wasn't even doing optimal combo's, yet still got 70% HP.

[@john-tobeymaguirecena]

They’ve been asking to nerf Paul since Tekken 3 😂👌🏼

[@EggscellentTree]

After leroy and fahkumran i stopped caring about tekken 7 balance xD

[@Jose-xm3tq]

F-Man is Fine, Ban Gigas!!!

[@Shortstuff4n6]

Also, his execution is way too easy for the rewards and damge he gets

[@NaveedAalam]

Really ? I can show you the most difficult executed combos includes ws3 distant airborne execution for demo man and ff4

[@Shortstuff4n6]

@@NaveedAalam Just because he has one difficult combo doesn't discredit my original point. Evidence being main man doing maybe 3 button combo strings in this video and getting around 60 damage every time. Most of his combos and execution are too easy for his damage and rewards. A good comparison is Steve, he has high damage locked behind counter hit combos and high execution.

[@NaveedAalam]

@@Shortstuff4n6 he has less moves than any other character in this games how about that ????????????? He gets punishment and punished hard on miss input specially on DFist smh....

[@NaveedAalam]

@@Shortstuff4n6 one difficult combo OMG 😳 SERIOUSLY ?🤦🏻‍♂️ F1+4 IN TO DFIST is easy ? You won't get the same dmg every single time you try that's an easy execution ?

[@NaveedAalam]

@@Shortstuff4n6 perfect sparkling Blue DemoMan isn't easy execution nobody can do it every time perfectly. Not even pros

[@celebrity6781]

Meanwhile me, a Lee player is barely getting a 60 damage with 11 hit combos, Paul can do all of that safely with just 2 hits, amazin

[@glacialshine4022]

Exactly! Lee has to be buffed.

[@tngo660]

Paul crushes high jabs in all his moves

[@ogslapslap8611]

"no character should be able to do this" (laughs in Marduk)

[@xravenx24fe]

Not really. Marduk can get really cheap damage off with tackle and some other stuff but for really high damage combos he needs guesses with oki throws, rage drive tackles, counter hits, etc. They're not 100% guaranteed, where the cheapest characters like Paul and Geese can fish with safe tools and get 75% easy with very little risk in comparison.

[@letterletter4152]

bootles stfu

[@TKMacsta]

bootles people still have guess which tackle option Marduk is going to do, and you can combo into it

[@ArmoredLeo72688]

@@TKMacsta that's still not guaranteed though. If you can break grabs consistently in tag 2 then you can consistently break the tackle follow up.

[@squarerootofplatypus9307]

Marduk 40+ damage wall ender is a 50/50 tho. If you get launch by marduk you can still guess, if you get launch by paul, all you can do is pray he drop the ender.

[@Erdi51]

Tekken 7 needed a damage nerf overall.

[@kryntor9713]

*cries in Lee*

[@AlefTeixeira94]

Cries in Lee 2

[@IKELLOGS]

Cries in Lee 4

[@MEGASTRIX]

Cries in lee 7

[@hypoccreeks]

Cries in lei chao bla top 4 :(

[@Gmit666]

Also Paul's df2 crush high's for some reason🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Idontwantyourcookie]

It has some evasive frames but it's not technically a high crush (there are highs that will hit, for instance it can't evade a ewgf ever afaik because of the low hitbox for a high)

[@thevendetta9726]

@@Idontwantyourcookie yeah but it still kinda sucks when you are jabbing and paul goes "HAH" and just ducks under it haha

[@danmengwang4754]

I believe Paul is not the only one who has the jab evasive df2. People are blaming his df2, the fact is safe df2s are universally strong in this game. Furthermore, his df2 is not actually tracking his left side very well. It is just all depending on your df2 timing. I personally think Law`s df2 is better than Paul`s. Of course, if you consider his damage, his df2 with rage always leaves a stronger image than the Law`s.

[@DevilJin01]

That's another issue with the game. There are some moves that are just so insanely evasive that you can almost call them crushing. Why need true crush when you can nearly do the same thing with dumb ass levels of evasion?

[@DavidLM69]

A lot of eight uppers that float have high crush abilities its nth to complain about

[@Gurpwnder]

The "New Wall Combo" is identical in damage to the old wall combo (3 2, D1+2) in damage, it just works reliably. Also, didn't they make the 2nd hit of B2,1 -12 on block in S2? I agree that F1+4 didn't need to give a deathfist on hit. Just making it more evasive was all the move needed. Guaranteed deathfist is overkill. At first, I was really confused when they buffed Paul's lows so much, but I notice that a lot of other weakesses characters have had are slowly eroding over time as well. Marshall Law used to be terrible at ranged whiff punishment. Enter 3+4,4. Bryan used to have mediocre WS punishment. Enter S3's FC DF2 1. King's myriad of buffs, Steve's buffs, and I kind of took it as "well, this is how characters are designed now. We're all OP"

[@EternalSilverDragon]

There are two versions of b2,1. A slow version where you fully charge the 2nd hit, and a faster version where it's not charged or not charged fully. The fully charged one (which TMM demonstrated) is +8 on block and the faster version is -12 on block. Both are CH launchers, but the safe fully charged version shouldn't CH without a huge error on the other person's part.

[@Gurpwnder]

@@EternalSilverDragon Yeah, ik, I miss the days when B21 uncharged was safe. I only use B21 as an ender, which makes for a fun mixup. Instant B21 to hit them if they instantly get up, charge to get a chunky hit if they stay grounded. Regardless, B21 isn't safe in practical scenarios outside of that. (Though it's nice that it's no longer negative on hit)

[@icyfeather8651]

I was fighting Paul literally this morning right before watching this video. I felt everything you've said in the vid. Paul is just so cheap and strong at the same time

[@boofkoosher2631]

Paul is like safe gigas. High damage and just constantly pushing you

[@b1gs3xy17]

I wish people would talk more about Hwoarang. I understand he's hard to play but it's very hard to believe in the opponent's eyes when it seems like he have 15 different panic moves like wtf

[@Beforezzz]

Hwoarang is easy to play, hard to master. Button mashers have loved him since he was a new character.

[@DesParagon]

The developers have nerfed one of Hwoarang's panic moves ( b 1), how many panic moves are too many? In your opinion, what other panic move needs to be nerfed?

[@glacialshine4022]

Hwoarang needs more recovery frames in his flamingo mix-ups. They may be okay for the top pro elitist players but in an online environment they are unbearable. Online many of his flamingo moves end up safe due to even minimal lag. That leads to insane pressure. Hwoarang is way easier to play than he is to fight.

[@omaisgee123]

@@Beforezzz Same with Paul. Easy to play, hard to master.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

So essentially, Paul should be the sledgehammer of the game. Every character has their gimmicks and Paul's gimmick is damage. The problem in Tekken 7 is that he's too well rounded and has a surprising amount of tricks that he never should have been given.

[@angelpacheco1608]

Everyone keeps saying to make paul slow and have higher frame data and he doesnt deserve his good moves like df2 - hed be fucking useless at higher levels... If he must be nerfed the best thing seems like a slight damage nerf overall. I really hope they dont listen to these guys.

[@madln5070]

@@angelpacheco1608 you're blind and you cant see the problems with him because he is your main, isn't he?

[@angelpacheco1608]

@@madln5070 Think for a second if that matters or not... You would basically be gutting the character into D tier if you listened to youtube comments for balance suggestions.

[@madln5070]

@@angelpacheco1608 wtf? Dude you're so exagerated, Paul will still strong asf because of is dmg, its just that he could't have his ridiculously tools with zero risks, THAT IS BALANCE.

[@angelpacheco1608]

@@madln5070 You literally ignored my comments. Read this: A lot of the "bullshit" that you think Paul has - is way harder to get away with against a good player. Just cause you let a paul player run up to your face and deathfist you does not mean he is broken. If they do nerf him it needs to be very calculated, and not some youtube comment bullshit. Besides - almost every character has somethinng that seems like bullshit. Do we nerf Kazuya cause of hellsweep ? or Bryan cause of Snake Edge ? or King cause noobs cant throw break ?

[@gavinkenway6900]

MainMan, I want to say that I envy you as a Tekken player. So many players only choose a couple characters they enjoy, and play them basically exclusively. It’s incredibly admirable to see someone play so many characters at such a high level, I couldn’t imagine having as many Tekken God Prime level characters as you. Keep the videos coming MainMan

[@J-MLindeMusic]

Goddamn do I love Tekken but the balance is a tad iffy in some places. One mistake against Paul, Geese, Fahkumram, Marduk, etc.=death. I really hope S4 balances things out.

[@ivangiordano3689]

Marduk has many weaknesses. He is not OP

[@yahboycj2447]

Marduk isn’t near those three lol

[@xravenx24fe]

To be fair all of Marduk's high damage combos, like over 50%, are all off a really slow CH launching string. Paul, Geese, and Fahk can do that damage on NH with relatively safe tools and retarded wall carry. It's just not comparable.

[@wisdomseeker0142]

A rival of mine is a yaksa Marduk but is prime with feng. You Will not defeat Marduk without having a perfect throw game and that includes his mount. Marduk is slow so he relies on his mount which I wish it was a little less strict. I feel his throw game on the floor is cheap though, as having to guess between getting destroyed by a throw that leaves you grounded or re tossed in the air for a full combo...eww.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Hopefully the staff will have been playing Tekken online over the lock-down.

[@acheleon7038]

He also has a perfect throw game right? along with ultimate tackle mixups

[@Gurpwnder]

His fighting style is judo, so that part makes a lot of sense.

[@acheleon7038]

Gotta nerf his striking then

[@07citychamp]

What fucking stoner designed pauls movelist and said "this is judo"

[@acheleon7038]

@@07citychamp the same stoner that created hwaorangs move list and decided to give him a guaranteed follow up after a command throw

[@07citychamp]

@@acheleon7038 I mean hwo atleast looks like some TKD tho, Paul's movelist looks like the drunk uncle at his kids little league game.

[@c-manor-kage5620]

Yea Paul is a monster in this game. I remember JDCR saying in a interview he was top 5 in ttt2 because he can do everything but now look at him

[@matthewhall1467]

Paul “Omae wa mou Shindeiru” Phoenix

[@LickyMyNippy]

Ya know... Paul used to really get to me. Recently (like the last couple months) I’ve been absolutely working every Paul I play. The ones I run into really like flow charts and got predictable. Maybe I just got lucky.

[@jamesk2343]

Oh man Leroy and Paul should be winning all the tournmanets.

[@ragnarokaftershock]

I've formed the habit of reversing TMM's intro in response to him. "What's up MainMan, KZbin here."

[@SonataNoKami]

Nice

[@MrGatsu]

No nerfs please, Paul is balanced and fair.

[@ArabianFalcon100]

he got all tekken elements, grabs, 50/50, safe launchers, excellent low, mid and high attack, perfect punish, unique rage drive, easy to play..... unlimited advantages

[@Chlcken_Joe]

Paul has the most damage without meter besides Marduk i feel, Marduk damage is ridiculous.

[@Jose-xm3tq]

Yes, But ITS NOT 100% Guaranteed.

[@Chlcken_Joe]

@@Jose-xm3tq true

[@Jose-xm3tq]

@@Chlcken_Joe Don't get me wrong, Once you land it is very satisfying.. Its just doesn't happen that much, Unless you fighting a Button masher or you got the rhythm of your opponent down.. And as for that CH Low.. I do REGULAR 20 plus Death matches and I get the Ch for his Low maybe ONCE a Week. So 100s of Rounds a week maybe 2-3 times tops. The CH Meds, Dude like everyone has em and some are WAAAY better then Marduks and Spammable. TMM is awesome and his content, But he is giving Marduk away too much smoke up his ass.

[@omaisgee123]

as he's supposed to

[@xAxCx]

Two years later, he still needs nerfs but everyone forgot because Feng is stupidly broken.

[@moxdegiourno7984]

Thank god somebody now admits it

[@mibbzx1493]

And if you watched the season 4 trailer, he’s getting an armored mid attack thats gives him guaranteed attack after next week 😤

[@JohnnyDarko01]

I mean, he wouldnt be paul pheonix if he wasnt a bad ass

[@totalymew]

As he is now, he's just dumb ass :(

[@elgost2774]

@@totalymew In Gameplay Paul is badass but story wise from tekken 5 onwards hes been done dirty to say the least.

[@JohnnyDarko01]

@@elgost2774 i agree that its kind of dumb he is like the comic releif of the game at this point. Main man complained about this as well.

[@foreveruseless1292]

"There's no other move that bugs as much is this one" Yoshimitsu's kangaroo kick: you wot m8?

[@itsahmedkhan]

Yesterday I played against Paul. He took my 80% of life with a SAFE df2 while he was in rage. It took me 40 seconds to deplete his life from 100% to 20% and he did a safe df2 combo in RA cancel to take my life. He is a bigger problem than metered characters as they don't have access to such damage without meter. He is TOO SAFE and rewarding at the moment. This is just my opinion.

[@FuryLima]

You're just aiming right, while i'm not a fan of 2D stuff too, they need bars (forget Eliza) to deal just a little bit more than Paul can deal in every situations, so that's a big problem because he's the most damaging character just imo

[@itsahmedkhan]

@@FuryLima I also don't play 2d characters and don't like them tbh. However, they require execution with their cancels like Akuma. with Paul... Zero execution. DF2 has a better range than Feng's or AK's hop kick. Plus it is 15 frames launcher plus it is SAFE plus it recovers like crazy. Why so many safe launchers for a high damage character? I agree his identity is high damage... but high damage should be rewarded after taking risks... not after safe df2 or plus qcb4 which recovers like Hworang's backlash (very hard to whiff punish - especially online)

[@sarahbryant3784]

@@itsahmedkhan nothing justifies akumas full combo off jab and dikjab.. that has nothing to do with Tekken

[@itsahmedkhan]

@@sarahbryant3784 i agree with you about jab into million damage. But safe df2 into 100+ damage without CH and Rage also doesn't justify.

[@la_nomercy]

Ahmed Khan Paul was in rage and did his rage art cancel after df2. That’s the only reason he was able to make that comeback.

[@SolidSonicTH]

The problem with the Phoenix Smasher, I think, is because of the pushback. It's punishable, sure, but you have a narrower window than -17 because you need to close the gap first (he's probably closer to -14 or -15 accounting for most scenarios). You're better off just trying to sidestep it.

[@toto_feather8732]

Remove all of his braindead crushing, his teleport and nerf his lows. He would immediately be a more reasonable character ^^

[@grantgarbour]

His teleport lmaooo. Honestly they should have never made it -14 it should still be launch punishable considering it crushes highs sometimes, and is a very evasive ss

[@peets9490]

@Daniel's Opinion 3 of his lows combo off CH lmfao. Qcf 3 can combo, high crushes with really good range, ss3 combos/wallsplats and with rage does absurd damage, qcb 3 high crushes and combos too.. how does he have shit lows?

[@grantgarbour]

@Daniel's Opinion You're high to be saying that lol. Qcb3 is safe because of extension, qcf3 is long range ch launch, what's the command ss3? The one where on ch he gets a free b1,2 and can wallsplat lol. Lemme stop, maybe he's just joking

[@mr.almezeini647]

@@grantgarbour he is just dumb cant understand a 12 minute vid filled with reasons why paul should be nerfed

[@justagamethrower]

@Daniel's Opinion you clearly don't play Heihachi if you think Paul's lows are the worst

[@solidali6623]

Why is the game in the description is street fighter 5 😂😂

[@HadesHatredEdge]

I mean Paul is basically the Ken of Tekken.

[@Paddydukes89]

Ken with a fancy haircut

[@bludika]

IMO Paul has too many moves that are a combination of being safe, pushback, high damage, not to mention low execution, and evasiveness

[@Anivrat1]

As a Devil Jin main I have to use Godfist for keep out if its not electric I am -10 and I get some punishment,But seeing this df+3 , A move with no execution and so safe. It just makes me cry a bit. He is literally very very safe. I make one mistake I am dead.

[@carlyg1969]

I really dislike versing him , he makes me salty so salty A soon as a get up after a tech roll , bam I’m on the ground again sigh ** He’s power is huge , I know it’s Paul he need to be strong but damn he’s hard to deal with I’m new lol well we have be salty about something He’s one of the characters that really irritates me

[@mapuangames5847]

I wish I could cuddle with you

[@carlyg1969]

Haha lol I would like that when he smashes me and make me question everything because a lower ranked Paul smashes my face into the ground and make me think what am I doing wrong And when he make me go down rank stupid Paul

[@carlyg1969]

Well it’s difference in opinion it’s probably to do with my character main too Sorry if I offended you , alright at the end of the day , it’s a game No need to take it personally People shit all over me all the time and sexually harass I just have to deal with it Most of them do and I’m a girl , I don’t play them because thier over sexualised , big boobed , big ass chicks who look like just straight up fan service And most of the girl characters are gimmicky Lucky chloe pisses me off I have only had the game two months ok Asuka I can deal with fine

[@carlyg1969]

I think all the girl characters look stupid to me None of them scream bad ass, don’t mess with me bitch And I want that in a female character But they look either really sexy , dumb , idol like or Loli and it’s disgusting I hate it so therefore I don’t play them You probably have guessed my character main is a male Sorry if offended it’s a opinion after all Ok your entitled to yours also

[@carlyg1969]

I’m new he probably just annoys because I don’t how to deal with his stuff yet no need to get angry I’m sure you were the same in the beginning

[@smashburger6]

I've been maining Paul since tag 2 and what i can say is GOD DAMN, this dude's strength is that he's wicked safe. You could make him far more unsafe and i'd still have the exact same playstyle. QCF3 could be a STAGGER low and i'd still use it just as much, F+1+4 should be death on block, D/f 2 could be removed completely and it would make no difference to how good he is at keepout. Just wait patiently for QCB4 couterhit, or sidestep RD for about a billion damage, or hit confirm iWS3, 2 for the same result. I love the character for his extremely effective defensive play, with untouchable whiff punishment and keepout. Just approaching Paul is basically a death sentence. But he should have to jump through more hoops and take bigger risks to get pressure in and crack defensive opponents. That would encourage more creativity with his extremely diverse and unique moveset where players might choose to utilise more sway cancels, snake dashes and iWS moves. No matter which way you slice it, Paul has it all. You could nerf everything mentioned in this video and it wouldn't really hurt him, not to me at least.

[@marqalt8013]

i have to agree

[@EternalSilverDragon]

Be careful with WS+3,2 - it's not really hit confirmable. You can see the WS+3 hit and then push 2, but the 2 will come out delayed and that allows your opponent to crouch under it and whiff punish you.

[@smashburger6]

@@EternalSilverDragon Damn, really? I must just be the luckiest man alive then. Nobody ever seems to be able to duck it on hit even when delayed. Have I been living life on the edge the whole time? It is hit confirmable i think, just not at max max delay.

[@EternalSilverDragon]

@@smashburger6 Ultimately it will come down to your own reactions. It's not hit confirmable to most, but there will be some with crazy reaction speed. Other players' lack of knowledge of what they can do defensively could also be a factor. You can test it in practice mode by setting the dummy to do (1) random guard and (2) crouch. But it's often easier to confirm in matches because you might see them move or start an attack before the WS+3 hits them.

[@Stockfish1511]

Paul at this point is close to get into a broken tiers and they are giving it a power crush lmao.

[@pant3r04]

I feel like Namco doesn't even know what to do with Paul. It's like they don't know if they wanna make him a 50/50 character or a defensive keepout monster

[@stoutx2273]

Even in practice mode on ultra mode, he is a nuisance. So imagine an actual person.

[@Pwayne-ll1yu]

Great video TMM as always!! Just one little thing you forget about Paul´s throw game : he has another 1 break throw that wallsplats into wall combo. The input is df1+3 : qcf2 in "just frame" because it´s not that hard to do. But as i mention before great content keep it up !!

[@TheTruth-mv7hm]

Wait a second if paul is so op then why is knee tho only one winning tournaments with Paul

[@elpapibigbird1691]

Facts. What people fail to realize is that at a high level he requires some crazy spacing skills. He’s very strong but he’s too hard to play at a top level.

[@TheTruth-mv7hm]

@@elpapibigbird1691 exactly

[@elpapibigbird1691]

Benny Spears Joey fury is the only other person that makes Paul work at a high level

[@swizzybeatzjamz6166]

Why do people always want to use tournaments to base there reasoning behind balance when less than 1% of the playerbase is in that bracket of gameplay.

[@nginroom8108]

It's why I pay little attention to videos like this. The focus is on the character's strengths on paper while ignoring their weaknesses in actual matches. Most times Knee uses Paul in tournaments, it's as a counter pick to Jack. No one as been as successful with Paul, so why nerf him based on the proficiency of 1% of players.

[@jwade3184]

Paul's df2 should be like Josie's. It should launch crouchers but is punishable on hit. You could even increase the damage on df2 itself a little bit, just make it unsafe

[@EternalSilverDragon]

He has a hop kick that does all that plus crushes lows.

[@jwade3184]

@@EternalSilverDragon so does Josie hahaha but her df2 is still really useful. Maybe you could also increase the range on Paul df2 or smth. Idk just rework the move bc the safe df2 move archetype just doesn't fit with Paul's character imo

[@EternalSilverDragon]

@@jwade3184 I'm not too familiar with Josie, but it looks like her df2 has better range than her hop kick, while her hop kick (obviously) crushes lows. So, I guess which one she uses depends on range. Paul's hop kicks have good range, so they would have to buff the range of his df2 (as you say) and probably also nerf the range of his hop kicks, but I don't think they would want to do that nerf.

[@zex69]

So paul is a dlc character for free .. hmm buff paul instead

[@luciferverone]

I just started playing Paul and by god I haven't been this relaxed in rank in a long time. I now understand why he's the most played character online.

[@Itsoeasyafterall]

Do you feel proud winning with a cheap character though, or any other Paul main players feel proud? I think the character comparison is like you’re being a heavy weight vs a feather weight . I myself don’t feel I deserve the win if I have to win like that.

[@luciferverone]

@@Itsoeasyafterall I played enough fair characters and had enough of the ranked stress. AK, Hei, Shaheen, Lars, Drag. And after playing all these guys and just barely getting to vanquisher I can safely say that I have absolutely no problems with playing "Cheap and Easy" characters. A win is a win, if you lose against a character then that's your problem.

[@virtuoso-in4mc]

Does he seem easier to use than AK and drag?? I main them

[@luciferverone]

@@virtuoso-in4mc I main AK as well, and Yes he is much easier to play and a much better character to deal with online bullshit. AK's FF 2 is nothing compared to pauls FF 2 and its followups, not to mention his armor move is 0 on block and gives a decent follow up if the opponent keeps pressing buttons unlike AK's armor move which isnt plus. And ofc... Death fist to deal with people who like to press buttons.

[@Itsoeasyafterall]

Lucifer Verone alright you do have a fair point, it is true using strong characters is less stressful in rank match

[@olbaze]

3:57: Paul's new wall combo does 1 point more damage than his old optimal one. The difference is that it works on everyone and never switches sides. 3,2;d1+2 only works on males and often switches sides. And it's not like just doing plain Deathfist as a wall combo is far behind. The real problem with 3,2~b is that it's also a combo filler with more wall carry than df1~b4 or b1,2. Personally I like 3,2~b as a wall combo because it gives Paul the option to do 3,2~b1+2 to force a mixup, which fits the character. 4:04: The Rage Art Cancel is not a problem in regular combos like that. He can get similar damage with his Rage Drive, e.g. CH qcb4;qcf1;df1~b4;JFDM;RD;3,2~b2 for 133. The Rage Art Cancel becomes a problem when you do it at the very end of a long combo, e.g. Paul gets a literal 170 damage death combo from TMM's favorite CH f2,3,1 on Jungle Outpost thanks to it. However, that's not a problem with the Rage Art Cancel, that's a problem with the stage gimmick. The fact that you can get a wall splat, a balcony break, and another wall splat in the same combo is stupid. Or multiple wall breaks for that matter. 6:00: Bringing up ff4 as a "safe launcher" is very misleading, when it's super linear and Paul himself gets an easy, infamous 100+ damage punish for it. 7:00: b2,1 is not safe. It's -12, and it's linear. The charged up version is safe, but you have 60 frames to interrupt it. And ws3,2 is duckable and most people automatically duck after they see the 3 knee because of ff3;ws3,2 in low ranks. I see a lot of people talk about Paul's df2, but that move is exactly where it should be, minus maybe the hitbox. It can't be unsafe, because then his hopkick is the same move but better. If it became a CH launcher, it would be his 2nd fastest CH launcher (CH 4 is 12f), and his fastest mid CH launcher by a massive margin (ub+2 is 20f). So unless you want to remove the move entirely, the only thing that can be done to it is change the hitbox.

[@Idontwantyourcookie]

He also mentions df2 tracking to both sides, but I am pretty sure I have fought players with good sidestep game who very consistently stepped and launched it.

[@FuryLima]

I think I miss understand the ff4 punish with +100 dmg, getting sides or back nerfs the combo dmg depend on char, bad wall splat or stuff, good Paul players might have set up to land this on block or hit, it's a real problem tho I would say, if you're good with the char you surely don't go for this move, and add that online fact, I can't personnally react to it, because it's good on opponent wake up, and using sidesteps here are not very recommended except for running moves like generic wr3, so it's mostly impossible to sidestep it to get a punish, when I do play Paul to chill, no one gets the sidestep on this move when I go for it Same for b2,1 ofc it's unsafe, mid mid into big dmg on CH, and again with "online" shit it can be hard to interrupt, it hits grounded, charged or not, the amount of + frames when charged is absurd you have to guess again, it can become a true mindgame too because of the charge animation, it can be canceled during the charge, and what a nightmare of a move at the wall For the new wall ender, I'm pretty ok while it's just getting consistent for him, for this only reason it was fine, but ffs it fills combo perfectly adding good dmg too and wall carry tho into vortex And I should say i'm ok with RA cancel, but thats litterally too much, getting 140+ dmg depending on stages, on a simple staple combo that no one can drop is too much if you take in consideration everything the character have to get rewarded And df2 is a joke in comparison with some other df2, you can just whiff it on purpose with "online" again and getting rewarded on a opponent who dashes on you to punish or take the momentum back, the tracking itself is absurd and his recovery on whiff is just insane I think I'm done for this "brief" opinion I have LUL feel free to answer I'd like to talk more about it :)

[@olbaze]

@@FuryLima The ff4 punish on Paul is 3,2~b1+2 for launch into a regular combo. Since the 3,2 happens before the launch, they don't count for the combo scaling, and you end up with a fully guaranteed total of 99 damage I think. And even more if you have rage or get a wall. Of course, not everyone gets damage like this for sidestepping ff4, but it's definitely not a "low risk" move. As for b+2,1, you're wrong on one thing: It only hits grounded if you charge it. And b+2,1 is mostly used as a combo ender anyway, since it prevents tech rolling. The RA cancel has to be put into context with his RD though. In a walled stage without gimmicks, his RA and RD deal just about the same damage. In infinite stages, his RD is crap, but the difference between using his RA cancel and just a full RA as a combo ender is

[@SolidSonicTH]

I actually stepped a Phoenix Smasher the other day. Felt like a badass.

[@bastinelli443]

I made a post about the insane damage this season especially from characters like Paul and Geese and was argued to death. People actually defending Paul because he's "technical". The most unga bunga character in the game who can kill you in 2 deathfists.

[@FrenzyGamingTV]

Unga punga?? Deathfist and demoman is not a thing anymore in high level of plays, and he is really predictable what he is gonna do. There is no a single pro player complaining about him, and especially now he is not broken anymore after the season 4 rage art cancel nerf. Unga bunga is a Leroy, Alisa player, not a Paul player at all. He remains a strong character, but not an op character.

[@Rain-qg5qc]

Did you even watch the video? Deathfist is trash, nobody uses it at high play anymore

[@hamzamacallin5918]

Me as a Paul main *sweating nervously*

[@ZantetsukenGilgamesh]

I'm a Paul player. I don't see any problems. You have Mishima's that can do EWGF for 100+ damage with wall combos, and Paul is is a problem?

[@junkyryan138]

lol

[@theonlyhorizon69]

that one comment in the chat at 9:44: Paul needs buff Harada: SAY NO MORE

[@hawisyqo8329]

f1+4 teleport shove " has no equal, nothing in the game exists like this" *sweats in leo f2+3* 👀

[@MichaelSS]

literally who

[@hawisyqo8329]

@@MichaelSS ya whos that

[@henryk7313]

You can’t even compare the two, Paul’s is so botched, the pushback and the evasiveness are just fucked. Also isn’t Leo’s f2+3 a high? Even if it isn’t, it just doesn’t compare to Paul’s (noting Paul’s also gives 60+ damage...)

[@hawisyqo8329]

@@henryk7313 it was joke fam you really think im out here comparing paul to leo bruh xD

[@henryk7313]

Hawi Syqo of course I did, there’s so many scrubs in this comment section

[@WaleedHaider786]

Finally a much needed video and someone addressed it. Way to go TMM

[@Sanyazavidov]

paul number one

[@kontsir]

Mainman, I think you should do a video with your top 10 moves in the game , explaining why they are top 10 in your opinion. That would be interesting

[@Spiderlily_tk]

His rage art cancel must have been removed from the begining

[@psychicwarlock5745]

And if a charecter sidesteps, it's easy for paul to lose.

[@Beforezzz]

The last time I fought a Paul player online, I knew something wasn't right.

[@gabetrinidad1016]

Yeah, but he’s freaking CHUCK NORRIS!!! LOL!

[@tritone11]

He never put him in S tier, yet always calls for a nerf...wtf

[@zangana3052]

Who in the right mind skips putting Paul in S tier.

[@thefrenchmishima1810]

He's S tier online, but I would say A tier in tournaments. Except knee who plays him sometimes, how many Paul have we seen in top 8 twt?

[@zangana3052]

@@thefrenchmishima1810 how many Julias have you seen in top8 twt except Mikio? I barely play online. The game doesn't function well on that part. Plus, if he was F tier still needs his df2 hard nerfed, and RA cancel gone.

[@Shadowolf5681]

Me terrible Paul player : Scribbling notes with fervor laughing maniacally.

[@fabianshamano5953]

What you forgot is that he is very slow and his low are still not that good because of range making it very hard for him to mix you up unless his up close which only gives him demo man as a mix up option and when blocked you die. his punishment and poking also sucks as the fastest he can get is 1, 2 which does very little damage compared to other players. QCF 3 is not really that fast even though it has good range it is also launch punishable at -14. His best launchers come from counter hit which are for the most part slow. the natural launchers are either too slow or if fast don't actually do much damage, insert DF 2. Put all that together and you realise that as powerful as he is he really sucks up close and at pressure meaning he really is best played defensively and at distance and all the things you mentioned play to those strengths so I see balance there.

[@TonyMishima92]

Thank you.

[@RaeBordz27]

*Alternate Title: Buffed Paul Breakdown*

[@coooolibri]

sidestep 3, and a few moves=60% health gone :D so easy to do.

[@elpapibigbird1691]

But you need wall. Lots of characters have lows that lead to wall splats and can give the same amount of damage.

[@acchitwood]

ending on the yodeling gave me all the life

[@aizen2526]

Without cancel Paul rage art would be useless everyone will hit rage drive more damage

[@johnfischer707]

Like everybody else you mean

[@freezerbride21]

Good.

[@iboudekak94]

Paul is totally broken

[@KZ1994able]

TheMainMan(Every1 needs to be nerfed except Gigas)Swe

[@awaisakram8573]

Gigas and kazuya ....

[@fabianshamano5953]

Hahaha he complains like a broken record lol

[@CaptainVulcan]

The voice samples from Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game would fit Paul very, VERY well. Seriously-- the roar from that game screams Deathfist.

[@JordanSalonica]

Leave paul alone !!!

[@mr.almezeini647]

Green rank paul spotted😅💔

[@JordanSalonica]

@@mr.almezeini647 lol good one but no.Tekken god prime paul.And old school.

[@elpapibigbird1691]

Behemoth Force Gaming orange rank trash spotted 😂

[@mr.almezeini647]

@@elpapibigbird1691 yea i am orange rank i didn't say i am good ( don't know who you mean by that) 😅👌

[@elpapibigbird1691]

Behemoth Force Gaming you’re talking trash to this guy but I’m sure he’d destroy you in a real match 👌

[@ki_charger]

d/f+2 does not track to both sides. Only to the right. It doesn't track left at all.

[@alexawef]

wtf? 15 frame DF2 is safe on block *AND* recovers fast? i didn't even know this

[@ryllian1]

It does not launch crouching opponents though, like Shaheen's df2. TMM doesn't tell you that for some reason. It is still EASILY one of the top df2 in the game. But it is silly to exclude such a detail.

[@painandpyro]

Great video - would love to see more of these for other characters like Fahkumram, Marduk, Hwoarang, etc

[@DaMixaSkillz]

**Clearly Playing Tekken** Game: Street Fighter 5 Geez KZbin 🤦‍♂️...

[@ANNIHILATION3221]

Also he is probably the only character who can comeback from a really big life lead even if the round only has 1 second remaining .

[@granityseis104]

Geese player thinks Paul is op.

[@demonicious_]

Paul's df2 also has a habit of crushing highs

[@EternalSilverDragon]

It doesn't crush highs. During the animation, he moves his upper body to the right, which will evade some linear highs if the timing is right.

[@Romariosofly]

I love watching him complain when he play broken characters

[@genzo454]

well, just because he plays broken characters doesn't mean he wants them to remain broken. Like for example, he loves playing Geese, but he still says that Geese should be nerfed, even made a video about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXaWc56Kl9Wpq7M

[@phoenix94ie]

i can't argue about all what you said, but when it comes to the damage, everyone on season 3 can do enormous and crazy amount of damage

[@Daytimeprophet3]

Just because everyone can do crazy amounts of dmg doesn't make it right. Everyone needs a damage nerf besides Lee lmao

[@phoenix94ie]

@@Daytimeprophet3 can't argue about that either...

[@President_Shin]

U can talk crap about DLC characters, while the entire time the base Roster has so much BS advantages. Paul’s been stupid forever, with insane tracking. keep his power but make him unsafe.

[@davidparry5310]

Paul does not have insane tracking, unless by 'insane' you mean 'practically non-existent for non-homing moves with any kind of range'.

[@President_Shin]

David Parry maybe you’re some high ranking tournament dude or something , but have U tried side stepping this guy?? Range?? IDK, Maybe because of the insane knock back he gets from his moves which makes it hard to punish him.

[@l3unnies]

i know what you mean

[@FaeRegalia]

im glad you showed this cause I did an anti-paul lab myself and I was like "I can launch punish Deathfist as Leo, and Demolition Man isnt a problem if i just" but wait now it's useless cause pauls dont use that.

[@jaycha4983]

Nah, he needs buffs.

[@ItsAstie]

i was playing against paul as a kazuya and holy shit never experienced so much bullshit in one single match

[@07citychamp]

Careful, Paul is a legacy character. Don't question the herd.

[@genzo454]

wait, I thought I was the DLC character who were supposed to be op. Are you telling me that bad character balance isn't limited to new characters, but in fact is actually something that affects virtually every character to some extent?

[@07citychamp]

Genzo its terrifying to even suggest. How could anyone live with that kind of truth.

[@booktekken1254]

Agree. Paul is so good

[@Qcf2]

Paul isnt as good as people think, yeah sure he has safe moves, but those safe moves dont really give him really strong advantages, especially against aggrerssive players that has good strings and pokes that open him up. Paul isnt good at opening people up, a heavy qcf paul user always get beat by just a backdash or if you can a BD cancel just make him whiff even the df2 is really easy to bait. I leave a question to you guys, If paul was really that good at tournaments, why hasnt anyone won with him yet? only few people could use him properly like Knee, Joey Fury, Justice and Jisang (whos kinda retired). Pauls sidestep isnt even that good, its just mediocre and if youre gonna tell me about his 12 frame homing b1,2 poke, its really not that good its both high. About his throw game, of vourse he has lots of it his style is Mixed martial arts based on Judo. Paul is only a problem against people that doesnt know how to deal with him coz of lack of exp, one of my main go to shutdown moves for Paul is a generic 13 frame df1 (every character has one but not all ofcourse), magic 4s, low pokes and sidestep/walk left and duck

[@genzo454]

you realize that if you try and spam d/f+1 against Paul, he'll just standing 4 counter hit and launch you, right? If you try and use a magic 4, he can just qcf+3 counter hit and launch you. And the d/f+2 might be easy to bait, but if you can punish it, what does it matter? Saying that Paul is anywhere below S tier is just disingenuous. And what do you mean, "those safe moves don't really give him really strong advantages"? They're safe tools with good range that often do something on counterhit, how are they in anyway bad? And the "especially against aggressive players that has good strings and pokes that open him up" part, you realize that if you're spamming strings in his face, he can just use one of his counter hit tools, likely launching you, right?

[@Qcf2]

@@genzo454 I never said spam it right? I said one of the ways to stop him, added to other list of moves that I do

[@Qcf2]

@@genzo454 Use Nina against him or anna ,youll locked movement

[@Qcf2]

@@genzo454 of course when you use your moves dont telegraph it, mix him up, paul has a lack of defensive tools against strong lock down players. make him use his swayback moves, swy2 is sidesteppable, swy 4 is duckable, usually you sidestep then duck against paul mid and close range

[@Qcf2]

@@genzo454 and yeah pasul is not S tier A would be acceptable, people only made paul into A or high tier when knee used him, in the tournament, but paul is good but not that good,qcf 3 is slow as f btw but still you can get hit I admit that. but Im not here to argue or fight with anyone just stating my opinion and experience, hope to have more friendly discussions

[@murder554]

Can we talk about how much damage Paul does on large characters with df1, 1, qcf2 at the wall. Example knee changed from devil Jin to Paul against anakins jack7 when he was down 2 in losers bracket in the 2019 Tekken world tour finals and came back and won.

[@thebeyonder77777]

Yet everyone is okay with safe low pokes of Jack7 which Knee had to overcome.

[@TK_SnakeEater]

he has a better wall combo now on large characters 3,2,b,ss,qcf2

[@shorty2x-n1r]

talking about paul is a problem meanwhile marduk out here doing death combos on infinite stages foh 😂 😂 😂

[@FG_Watcher]

Cause tmm is a marduk fanboy he usually doesn't complain about characters that he likes

[@MinoComics]

TMMSWE 8:00 the shoulder is broken, critique Bamco: here is another new OP shoulder move in season 4

[@paintballb42]

I want him nerfed into the ground just because I'm so tired of playing Pauls online. Everyone and their mother plays Paul.

[@djmj1000]

Actually i am happy playing vs Paul since i have most experience with this matchup :D

[@elpapibigbird1691]

djmj1000 I agree. The matchup is really simple and ez. At a high level he has a very straight up matchup.

[@asheeshtripathi6108]

The reason is everyone loves him not because he is too strong

[@muhtadaali8847]

learn the god damn match up

[@paintballb42]

I know the matchup. I've played it a million times. I'm over it. It's boring as hell.

[@Rana-526]

Every pual move is a launcher

[@xRevolverServbot]

You give Paul way too much credit. "High level play" doesnt really happen online where a majority of players duke it out, and is moreso speaking of the bracket of pros where Paul's presence is barren. Any player worth their salt would absolutely destroy him because while he is strong, Paul is predictable. Most of his tricks are only viable against people who are none the wiser to him, and the real game to someone playing AS Paul is playing Tekken like Poker so you dont immediately get called out and blown up over a Death Fist or any of his other infamous attacks. The man is only able to fleece the inexperienced.