How to Prove a Function is Uniformly Continuous

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The Math Sorcerer

The Math Sorcerer

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@lemyul
@lemyul 5 жыл бұрын
it will probably take me years before this whole analysis course make sense
@lemyul
@lemyul 3 жыл бұрын
@@markdierker4292 about to graduate without fully knowing proofs
@Chilliak10
@Chilliak10 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@shutupimlearning
@shutupimlearning 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemyul did you figure out proofs yet?
@smoosq9501
@smoosq9501 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say thank you, your videos not only explain everything in detail but also saved me a huge amount of time.
@tannerboos2268
@tannerboos2268 7 жыл бұрын
There is a problem with the yellow proof at the end. Consider a=-5. -5
@benpct5555
@benpct5555 3 жыл бұрын
The best 4 minutes I ever spent (2x speed works like a dream)
@CREricNoeJimenezValerio
@CREricNoeJimenezValerio 4 жыл бұрын
Love your proves! Keep it on dude, you are saving lot of asses around the world
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
haha thanks
@kpopaspirations
@kpopaspirations 3 жыл бұрын
How the heck did you just arbitrarily drop abs(1+ y^2) from the bottom of the fraction?
@invanemay6814
@invanemay6814 3 жыл бұрын
when abs(1+ y^2) drops, all of the expression gets bigger so no problem to drop it eheh
@potatojam6519
@potatojam6519 4 жыл бұрын
So, if I were cluelessly doing this, I could just choose 𝜺 = 𝛿 and in the end see that the |f(x)-f(y)|
@蔺美云
@蔺美云 2 жыл бұрын
This is soooooo helpful. Thank you so much!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@KevinWeatherwalks
@KevinWeatherwalks 5 жыл бұрын
Since 1/|1+x^2| is bounded above by 1 and |x|/|1+x^2| is bounded above by 1/2 (and similarly for y), will the proof still hold if we had chosen delta = epsilon?
@rolo3456
@rolo3456 8 жыл бұрын
it finally all makes sense thank you
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 8 жыл бұрын
np happy it helped:)
@matthutchings8911
@matthutchings8911 7 жыл бұрын
In the proof at the end, shouldn't you be considering the cases where |a| 1? The way you did it means that if a < -1, then |a| > 1 and you can't use the first inequality in case 1.
@mu-maths2778
@mu-maths2778 7 жыл бұрын
Matt Hutchings oh yeah! I get your point. Those cases work only for non-negative numbers. For the whole real line we have to go with cases where a is between -1 & 1 and otherwise. Great observation.
@panos.kardatos
@panos.kardatos 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I really liked the way you make the proof at the end of it about 1+1.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 8 жыл бұрын
thanks:)
@viiarush
@viiarush 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, you could've also shown x/1+x^2 as a sin function and hence
@javieralonso3949
@javieralonso3949 7 жыл бұрын
how do you know that the delta value is epsilon/2?
@Mycrosss
@Mycrosss 7 жыл бұрын
Um if you decided to set a
@AsaNole
@AsaNole 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the last inequality "less than or equal to 1" instead of strictly less than 1? What I mean is, does there exists a number a such that (|a| / |1+a^2| )= 1?
@Fragadagalops
@Fragadagalops 4 жыл бұрын
you said that we could just "get rid" of the |1+x^2| and |1+y^2| in denominators but you didn't explain it.
@Ivan-ob3vk
@Ivan-ob3vk 4 жыл бұрын
Well, since it is absolute value it must be positive. And of if it is positive it can only makes that whole fraction smaller number. So if you get rid of it it doesnt really matter.
@jorthouben
@jorthouben 4 жыл бұрын
Ivan Ivan It indeed becomes a smaller number, but we claim that is is greater of equal, right? So how can two numbers suddenly be greater when they become smaller?
@zwan1886
@zwan1886 4 жыл бұрын
@@jorthouben denominator became smaller makes the fraction bigger
@mayankjangid1543
@mayankjangid1543 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks professor for your videos. They help us a lot. With due respect, your proof for the lemma used is wrong(for the case when a
@laflaca5391
@laflaca5391 9 жыл бұрын
very helpful, thank you
@H3XED_OwO
@H3XED_OwO 8 ай бұрын
mr math sorcerer, at 7:30 can we prove this segment by proving the bottom part of the fraction is bigger or equal to the top part? what i mean by this is by plugging in any number for 'a' we get a result smaller or equal to one
@으니-g2l
@으니-g2l 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks its helpful In the last when you claim |a|/|1+a^2|=1,|a|=1,a
@t.arunasivapriyam.sc.2301
@t.arunasivapriyam.sc.2301 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@princesahu7026
@princesahu7026 4 жыл бұрын
Really helpful..
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy it helped😃
@SirGumbi
@SirGumbi 9 жыл бұрын
Just did this problem a few days ago, literally did the exact same thing you did, tehe. :)
@eggy60
@eggy60 7 жыл бұрын
immediately frustrated because you figured out delta beforehand and was just like ok there you go. now let's do more redundant stuff to see if it's actually what I put down though I already told you it is.
@ElizaberthUndEugen
@ElizaberthUndEugen 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Finding the delta is the actual problem. Not showing that the chosen delta works. I fuckin despise these delta epsilon proofs, they make me go insane.
@Mycrosss
@Mycrosss 7 жыл бұрын
It's always between 0 and epsilon so in 99% of the cases you just take the middle and it'll work.
@canalf007
@canalf007 7 жыл бұрын
you don't need to know the value of delta in terms of epsilon at the begenning of the problem. Just get to the fact that |.....|
@nickn9040
@nickn9040 6 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Why is it redundant...? You won't be given delta in an actual problem.. He just said, "this is what I came up with," and showed us how he came up with it.
@isinimuthumuni8374
@isinimuthumuni8374 6 жыл бұрын
Uh he did go through how he got that delta through the proof though. He just mentioned the value he got beforehand
@omatseyeugen5697
@omatseyeugen5697 2 жыл бұрын
any examples of determining if a function is continuous and or discontinuous?
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 9 жыл бұрын
@ahmad3652
@ahmad3652 8 жыл бұрын
+The Math Sorcerer um if memory serves the rule I worked out was to check what is the largest number the 1/(1+x^2)+1/(1+y^2) could be which is 2 in this case the dive epsilon by that number and call it delta.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 8 жыл бұрын
+ahmad3652 You forgot the absolute values up top, I agree with your statement though yes.
@ahmad3652
@ahmad3652 8 жыл бұрын
+The Math Sorcerer it's a damn nuisance typing them in but good analysis demands it.
@artsense5061
@artsense5061 4 жыл бұрын
Where and how did you get delta equals to epsilon over 2?
@DarkKittens123
@DarkKittens123 7 ай бұрын
could just let delta equal n* epsilon at first then when he got to the end of proof just change n to 1/2 as that clearly works nicely with the mod(f(x)-f(y)) being less than epsilon
@WickedChild95
@WickedChild95 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@LilMsPersianallity11
@LilMsPersianallity11 9 жыл бұрын
omg youre awesome ! keep up the videos
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 9 жыл бұрын
Fatemeh Moh Thank you! I'm glad it helped someone:)
@janah701
@janah701 8 жыл бұрын
what is the difference between uniformly continuous and continuous?
@lakers1654
@lakers1654 5 жыл бұрын
uniformly continuous is over a set of points while continuous only focuses on one point. This is 3 years too late lmao
@c0L0mbiangat0
@c0L0mbiangat0 4 жыл бұрын
at 7:14 why can we just simply drop the a^2? btw thank you for this video , helps so much!!
@LordOfNoobstown
@LordOfNoobstown 4 жыл бұрын
Why is abs(a)
@ArunDwivedi1998
@ArunDwivedi1998 2 жыл бұрын
There is A question in my mind as u select epsilon is greater then 0 I agree but by which logic u said that delta will equal to epsilon/2
@marccasals6366
@marccasals6366 7 жыл бұрын
Why do you choose delta=epsilon/2?
@esakkithirugnanam6626
@esakkithirugnanam6626 5 жыл бұрын
Only after completing the problem , we can take this. This is one example for how mathematicians do Mathematics.
@cnhpuchenliu5123
@cnhpuchenliu5123 4 жыл бұрын
Thx
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@MrMQturoring
@MrMQturoring 7 жыл бұрын
there is any way to know the function uniformly or not without testing?
@Alienman1212
@Alienman1212 6 жыл бұрын
how can you just "drop" parts
@christoffelsymbol1631
@christoffelsymbol1631 6 жыл бұрын
it's possible in inequalities, he replaces condition with a weaker one
@XxuplmxX
@XxuplmxX 6 жыл бұрын
because it's absolute value we know the things he is "dropping" are positive and we also know that the bigger the denominator of a number the smaller the number. So if we're working with inequalities it follows that |x|/ |1+x^2| |1+y^2| < |x|/ |1+x^2|
@masterlanz1038
@masterlanz1038 4 жыл бұрын
I am sooo late I have a doubt...i hope you reply.....i understand the proofs...but is there any tips on determining the delta......i understand it depends on the question but some tips on that
@livialopes5682
@livialopes5682 9 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@stratpap637
@stratpap637 2 жыл бұрын
Very good example because the use of triangle inequality and even more the second proof. Thank you!
@inesbenbrahim3263
@inesbenbrahim3263 4 жыл бұрын
EH MERCEEEEEE FRANKIE
@Fiona-xj6ei
@Fiona-xj6ei 4 жыл бұрын
Frannnnnnkounet
@jamesdigno3969
@jamesdigno3969 8 жыл бұрын
in your claim after the end of your proof why did you drop the a^2 in |1+a^2| ? And for a>1 why did you drop the 1 in |1+a^2|?
@bentowers7382
@bentowers7382 8 жыл бұрын
+James Digno a^2>=0 for all a in R, so (1+a^2)>=(1) => mod(1+a^2)>=mod(1) thus dividing by the smaller expression will give a greater expression as it is a reciprocal (laws of inequalities). A similiar argument will convince you that dropping the 1 will also give the same result.
@vijaysinghchauhan7079
@vijaysinghchauhan7079 2 жыл бұрын
At 1:49 x,y belongs to A not R.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
In this case A = R because our function is from R into R. Thank you for the comment:)
@jiteshjoshisde3154
@jiteshjoshisde3154 7 жыл бұрын
how we apply this claim herw.. how is |x|
@saassas5879
@saassas5879 5 жыл бұрын
You're saving my ass right now lol thank you!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! np man
@randomdude9135
@randomdude9135 4 жыл бұрын
I still can't see the difference between continuity and uniform continuity. I think I don't understand them correctly. Please please please please please make video on them and show the differences
@raichu56k
@raichu56k 4 жыл бұрын
he has a video on it
@randomdude9135
@randomdude9135 Жыл бұрын
I'm your future version. It's both amusing & depressing that you still don't understand them & have to rewatch the video now! Haha
@deadlypeanut98peanut57
@deadlypeanut98peanut57 7 жыл бұрын
at 3:29 why can you just change |Y^2-X^2| to |X^2-Y^2|? Thanks :)
@nottaperson
@nottaperson 7 жыл бұрын
The absolute value of the difference of real numbers is a metric on the real numbers, so you may change the order of the terms and obtain an equivalent expression. More simply, notice that the absolute value of a difference gives the distance on a number line between the two values. This distance shouldn't change just because we change the order of the values. Ex. 4 - 9 = -5, 9 - 4 = 5, but |-5|=|5| = 5
@deadlypeanut98peanut57
@deadlypeanut98peanut57 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@The_Jarico1
@The_Jarico1 8 жыл бұрын
Great video but please explain how is this function uniformly continuous if when I graph it it does not have a constant slope (isn't that required to be uniformly continuous)
@yugandhar59
@yugandhar59 9 жыл бұрын
awesome bro
@zeeservices4888
@zeeservices4888 6 жыл бұрын
What is the logic of choosing $=€/2
@FugieGamers
@FugieGamers 7 жыл бұрын
You gave the definition of continuity not uniform continuity?
@alexandergroeger857
@alexandergroeger857 6 жыл бұрын
It is uniform because the function is continuous at any accumulation point y. In other words, you're picking any two points and showing continuity.
@kymberleyalexandrie3133
@kymberleyalexandrie3133 5 жыл бұрын
Why have a KZbin channel explaining shit if you dont reply to the comments based on the vids
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