Continuity versus Uniform Continuity

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The Math Sorcerer

The Math Sorcerer

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@tho_norlha
@tho_norlha 3 жыл бұрын
literally i was crying a few minutes ago because i couldn't do my analysis exercise sheet. You are the best teacher on youtube thank you so much, may god bless you have a beautiful day
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@keshavchaturvedi4015
@keshavchaturvedi4015 3 жыл бұрын
U climbed the tower?
@tho_norlha
@tho_norlha 3 жыл бұрын
@@keshavchaturvedi4015 still climbing but I know I can have everything at the top
@keshavchaturvedi4015
@keshavchaturvedi4015 3 жыл бұрын
@@tho_norlha all the best climb it
@comuniunecuosho-campulbudi7611
@comuniunecuosho-campulbudi7611 Жыл бұрын
also check out John Gabriel's New Calculus
@ethanekat
@ethanekat 4 жыл бұрын
I read about this all over the internet for an hour and you clear it up in 10 minutes--thanks!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@zachedwards5911
@zachedwards5911 Ай бұрын
I love that this video gives an intuitive explanation of the difference. Of course having the difference explained using the definition is important since it’s important to know that in uniform continuity, delta does not depend on the point and only depends on epsilon. However, this difference on the surface may seem unintuitive and unimportant. However, the rectangle demonstration perfectly encapsulates the intuitive idea behind why we care about uniformly continuous functions. For general continuous functions, there exists a rectangle that encloses the value of the function over some delta interval of x values, but the height of that box (and thus the area of the box) may depend on the specific point of the function that we are looking at. A given delta interval of x values does not always correspond to the same epsilon interval of function values due to the influence of the point itself. Uniformly continuous functions for a given delta interval for x have the same rectangle at every point of the function. The height of the rectangle, the epsilon interval for the image of the function, only depends on the given delta value. Hence the name uniform continuity.
@Nofxthepirate
@Nofxthepirate 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished my (intro to) Real Analysis course for my Applied Math major, and uniform continuity was the last topic in the class. Thanks for helping me get an A!
@anthonykim5271
@anthonykim5271 25 күн бұрын
this was the most intuitive explanation ever thank you so much for this
@simphiweyawa3970
@simphiweyawa3970 Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. I just realised i passed through Real analysis without intuitively understanding this. Sometimes we can just continually talk about the definition without intuitively understanding it. This intuition is the best. Continue the good work.
@katerinagk2681
@katerinagk2681 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I'm studing real analysis this semester and it all seems so theoritical, it's hard to draw a picture like that. Your videos really help with understanding the material, thanks again.
@kagayakuangel5828
@kagayakuangel5828 4 жыл бұрын
You have a true gift. Thank you so much!! Now I just need to understand pointwise and uniform convergence!
@inesjesus4577
@inesjesus4577 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Still need help with that?
@iHadar
@iHadar 5 жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT explanation! thank you
@user-jc9kj7wt6j
@user-jc9kj7wt6j 2 жыл бұрын
The rectangle really helps me to understand the concept. Thank you so much.
@johnlama7826
@johnlama7826 3 ай бұрын
best analysis teacher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@wanghaoyu874
@wanghaoyu874 5 жыл бұрын
Good explanation!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kaifalcone8025
@kaifalcone8025 3 жыл бұрын
I have spent the entire semester trying to figure this out. Thank goodness I found this video, thank you!!
@jasonthomas2908
@jasonthomas2908 Жыл бұрын
WOOOT, maths made clear, love it thanks
@muhitthemagician7651
@muhitthemagician7651 2 жыл бұрын
Man! You're a lifesaver
@sharonnuri
@sharonnuri 2 жыл бұрын
I am studying real analysis and this helped a lot to visualize uniform continious functions, Thank you sir.
@ydg_me
@ydg_me 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, It was very helpful :)
@umarmuzzamil8559
@umarmuzzamil8559 Жыл бұрын
best explanation ever....thank you
@CheesyBread
@CheesyBread 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty good video, but it seems like you call f(x) values “y values” which can be confusing given the definition. The definition states that both x and y lie in the domain of f. What that means for the definition is that you can think of x and y as 2 different “x values” (by x values I mean domain values, as in they are defined by their position on the x axis). For uniform continuity, we see that the difference between 2 points is arbitrarily small (less than delta) and thus the difference between f(x) and f(y) is also small (less than epsilon). By small, I mean small enough to satisfy the definition of uniform continuity. The rectangle visualization is still correct though. When an f value (escapes) the rectangle, that would mean that abs(f(x)-f(y)) is no longer less than epsilon and is therefore not uniformly continuous at the point (y,f(y)). I hope what I said can help anyone who might’ve been confused by that. If it was just me who was confused than oh well.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
Hey good point and thanks for your comment. 😄
@CheesyBread
@CheesyBread 4 жыл бұрын
The Math Sorcerer yeah man I was mostly just putting my thoughts here so I could better understand what’s going on. Appreciate the instant feedback to my comment as well that’s nice. Keep up the good work!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
@@CheesyBread yup icould tell it's good to do that. I do the same thing sometimes writing down your thought process helps clarify stuff.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
@@CheesyBread and thanks man😄
@randomprodigius914
@randomprodigius914 4 жыл бұрын
Really thank you I was confused on that to
@DankanXP311
@DankanXP311 3 жыл бұрын
Wish my teacher had explained it this way, thank you very much!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome ❤️
@math6174
@math6174 4 жыл бұрын
Now I got why the name uniform refer to. Big thanks, professor.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@periclesstamatis7549
@periclesstamatis7549 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Very helpful video!
@acdude5266
@acdude5266 Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation. Very clear.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!
@official_minyoung
@official_minyoung 5 ай бұрын
Best explanation ever
@Dusk425
@Dusk425 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I found it really helpful. I completed my masters this year. But I still get confused between uniform continuity and continuity😭😭. Finally the confusion is gone. Thanks a lot.
@richardstone5096
@richardstone5096 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good way of explaining these concepts, thank you
@johnchan4371
@johnchan4371 2 жыл бұрын
I think a better way to understand Uniform Continuity (not sure if it's accurate) is that if a function is uniformly continuous on the real set of numbers, then the function is continuous and the slope of the tangent line of every point of the function is within a finite range.
@youngthug3124
@youngthug3124 3 жыл бұрын
yo man that's awesome have a great day
@Corellispinto
@Corellispinto 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. It was very helpful. I needed @Cheesy Bread’s explanation about the f(y) to fully understand what you were saying.
@charuniehansika1100
@charuniehansika1100 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation .....Thank you very much!! :D
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
Np!
@kewalmohapatra4416
@kewalmohapatra4416 2 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of the rectangle!!
@PrajeeshMath
@PrajeeshMath 2 жыл бұрын
That was a nice explanation
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Sofialovesmath
@Sofialovesmath 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video, can't thank you enough, cleared all my doubts!
@viveakkatochG
@viveakkatochG 3 жыл бұрын
You're a lifesaver!!!!! 👍🕺
@kxsteve2061
@kxsteve2061 5 жыл бұрын
Great job man appreciate it
@-a5624
@-a5624 3 жыл бұрын
So helpful thank you!!
@independentmath
@independentmath 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@5180073a
@5180073a 4 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly helpful !!! Thank you!!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@isaac5815
@isaac5815 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing!!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@georgearapoglou2848
@georgearapoglou2848 3 жыл бұрын
thank you !!!
@koratanadhanunjay9209
@koratanadhanunjay9209 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome explaination 👍👍
@serracengiz86
@serracengiz86 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@iagovieitez7738
@iagovieitez7738 Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@allanhenriques2694
@allanhenriques2694 3 жыл бұрын
so in one, delta is a function of epsilon, and in another, delta is a function of epsilon and the point
@aayala6220
@aayala6220 3 жыл бұрын
amazing!!!
@sumittete2804
@sumittete2804 4 ай бұрын
Sir, If a function is uniformly continuous on a closed interval, could we refine the definition of uniform continuity by replacing the condition |x-y| < δ and |f(x) - f(y)| < ε with |x-y| ≤ δ implying |f(x) - f(y)| ≤ ε ?
@colaurier2594
@colaurier2594 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 жыл бұрын
np!
@sumittete2804
@sumittete2804 4 ай бұрын
Hello Sir...If a function is uniformly continuous on a closed interval, could we refine the definition of uniform continuity by replacing the condition |x-y| < δ and |f(x) - f(y)| < ε with |x-y| ≤ δ implying |f(x) - f(y)| ≤ ε ? Please sir, clarify it.
@S0M_DUBEY
@S0M_DUBEY 2 ай бұрын
Oh! now I understand,its all about that damn rectangle
@basmahina6414
@basmahina6414 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Thanks man!!
@ayeshaafzal2716
@ayeshaafzal2716 4 жыл бұрын
Very understandable 😍 But one point is making me confuse In the very last when u talk about rectangles ; in uniform continuity the size of rectangle should same at one place of graph when compared with continuity or at any point of graph size of rectangle should be same.?
@Maraq369
@Maraq369 11 ай бұрын
Does delta in non uniform definition depend on x also or just c and epsilon ?
@JhaaJii
@JhaaJii 4 жыл бұрын
And................ the sorcerer does magic !
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
yes!!
@sadnesswoder3283
@sadnesswoder3283 4 жыл бұрын
hi I have some comments: firstly, thanks for the video and explanation ;) second, you should work the voice for next videos some parts it's very low then goes up suddenly. the most important comment is about uniform continuity I didn't get the drawing of a rectangle what if it goes like a wave but not down. when can we decide whether it goes away from the rectangle or not? I like that you have explained analytically and geometrically !! thanks again
@tomislavvinkovic827
@tomislavvinkovic827 2 жыл бұрын
Just a second... If it says for EVERY Epsilon, cant the epsilon change, hence the rectangle changes as well?
@bestofyoutube5590
@bestofyoutube5590 3 жыл бұрын
Thanksss🔥❤️
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@suup4k75
@suup4k75 4 жыл бұрын
In your example with the red function near the end of uniform continuity, why could we not change the rectange to be taller so that we capture all of f(x) and f(y)? If it the rectangle is tall enough for the "worst case", shouldn't it be tall enough for the whole function and then be uniform continuous?
@TheDetonadoBR
@TheDetonadoBR 4 жыл бұрын
read this math.stackexchange.com/questions/2283008/uniform-continuity-of-function
@randomprodigius914
@randomprodigius914 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDetonadoBR thanks
@randomdude9135
@randomdude9135 4 жыл бұрын
Still don't understand the uniform continuity part :/ Guess I've got a low IQ. But I'll think about this visual intuition for some time and hopefully I get it
@adam-does
@adam-does 4 жыл бұрын
Random Dude Natural language helps me: A function is continuous means... Choose any input value for the function. Whatever you like. And choose any distance epsilon. Then I can find you a distance delta such that just so long as I keep my input values within delta *of the input you chose* , I’ll keep the correponding outputs within epsilon. A function is uniformly continuous means... Choose any distance epsilon. Then I can find you a distance delta such that just so long as I keep *any pair* of input values within delta, I’ll keep the outputs within epsilon. Where does the difference emerge? In the case of continuity, depending on which input you choose, I might need to keep my other input values within *different* distances (some may need to be really small, I might be safe keeping some fairly large) to keep their outputs within epsilon. Whereas in the case of uniform continuity, no matter what input you choose, I can always find the *same* distance delta between other input values which keeps their outputs within epsilon.
@maximchowdhury9690
@maximchowdhury9690 2 жыл бұрын
isnt it 'for all x in dom(f)" not "for all x in R"?
@ts.nathan7786
@ts.nathan7786 Жыл бұрын
Go through the video ( URL ) given below for best explanation for the difference between continous function and uniform continous function: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nonOgqR5d7GFppo
@ajsdoa6282
@ajsdoa6282 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see a difference in the definitions except for the order they're written. It says for continuous, it's dependent on c but in uniformly continuous it's dependent on y, but y and c are both just real numbers, you just changed the name of the variables, they're still just in R doesn't matter what you call them, so no difference there.
@Sudhanshux007x
@Sudhanshux007x 5 жыл бұрын
It's the order only that matters. Go to page 2 of this pdf www.math.wisc.edu/~robbin/521dir/cont.pdf
@IssamZeinoun
@IssamZeinoun 4 жыл бұрын
I was confused with this as well... but then I noticed what he said: that Delta in the Uniform Continuity can only depend on Epsilon, not on x. The language used to define this is specific, as follows: Whereas the first definition mentions the existence of "c" before it mentions that Delta exists, the second definition does not mention X or Y before it mentions that Delta exists. It's a subtle difference in linguistics, but is intentional. It's the mathematicians way of saying that Delta can depend on "C" in the first definition but cannot depend on X or Y in the second.
@reenarai1927
@reenarai1927 4 жыл бұрын
In case of continuity delta depends on c so - that value is constant. While in case of uniform con.. delta depends only on epsilon so no matter what c is that's why that is choosed like a variable y, we can take any no. Of our choices In place of y.
@jonatangarcia9285
@jonatangarcia9285 4 жыл бұрын
It's very different, in Continuity definition, the "c" is constant, that means that just "x" changes in |x - c| < d, in another terminology, it's a neighborhood with radius 'd' and center 'c' B_d(c), and if 'x' belongs to that neighborhood, then ocurrs that |f(x) - f(c)| < e. or in other terminology, f(x) belongs to B_e(f(c)). In Uniformly contininuity, we have that |x - y| < d, both changes, it can be any number whose distance is less than 'd'. In ths case, there are not center, not neighborhood, just distane between two numbers
@randomprodigius914
@randomprodigius914 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sudhanshux007x Thanks a lot
@independentmath
@independentmath 2 жыл бұрын
I spent a long time to feel the difference between continuity and uniform continuity....
@randomprodigius914
@randomprodigius914 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
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