THEMOVE: 2023 Tour de France Stage 8

Lance, JB, and George break down Mads Pedersen's impressive sprint victory ahead of Jasper Philipsen and Wout van Aert on a difficult uphill finish in Limoges. The loss leaves Van Aert, who had two stage wins at this point in the race last year, with little to show for the immense amount of work he has already put into the race.
The crew also discuss Mark Cavendish’s devastating mid-stage crash, which forced him out of the race and ended his chances, at least for 2023, of breaking the all-time Tour de France stage win record. They wrap up the show by discussing Simon Yates and Mikel Landa’s late crashes, and ensuing time losses, before previewing what to expect on tomorrow’s historic, and brutal, finish atop Puy de Dôme.
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[@holgz]

Gutted for Cav

[@krisbowditch827]

Sickening ,so close yesterday too .. chapeau mark

[@dickieblench5001]

TDF 2024

[@victoriacarter3566]

💯♾️ Hoping he comes back next year.

[@NickBonne]

What a shit day. Really hope Cavendish is able to recover mentally and give us one more season.

[@ClockCutter]

He already announced his retirement. Maybe this changes his plans, but for some reason I doubt it.

[@NickBonne]

Even without George's scoop, it is clear Cav has been on some great form. Between yesterday's mechanical mishap and today, I would think he is fuming mad. To go out in a crash and not get the chance to roll through Paris, taking a stage or not, is devastating, for absolutely everyone. Every fan of the sport is aware he has already announced this is his final season; we can now only hope the motivation and rage is still there when this injury heals and he delays those plans.

[@amc5966]

Absolutely dreadful day. Felt so bad for the legend. He deserved so much better. So infuriating that these slow speed crashes always break collar bones.

[@SeanLawn71]

I worked all day so I came here first for the TDF update. Heartbroken for Cav. Love what you guys do!

[@bikeskimawk670]

Cav, a champion’s champion! 🚴‍♂️🏆

[@albertellis6143]

I just absolutely LOVE these podcasts including JB2. Such brilliant insights but the banter is the best. Rockin’ the Aviators makes me laugh every time. Keep it funny and keep those peloton insider snippets coming

[@scottgregory6129]

Watching Cav in that ambulance broke my heart. Lance, you are still my hero... mainly because George is there.

[@moytheboy22]

3:50 podcast starts. Love you, Cav.

[@smeetsnoud1]

You goddamn legend

[@maxkroll7126]

3:38

[@calvin1148]

Someones’ gettin’ an Oscar: the day after his dream stage, 5mph, no one else has a scratch, dr there literally in 2 seconds, and the sad long look into the camera, now we have the pals confirming 🤨

[@pamelarenee1]

Did you see the picture of his clavicle completely out of normal place?

[@justinhoese5086]

Love this show! 7

[@williampringle1790]

Although it’s a bit more than 25 years ago, moving the shift levers from the downtube to the brake levers has to be the single most important technological advancement that bike racing has seen. Great show as always. Keep up the good work people! 👍

[@ColdGrayMorning]

Cav need contract with Alpecin for one stage win on Tour De France 🇫🇷 2024

[@Montrealcycling]

Lol🤦🏼‍♂️

[@jaybobd]

I love how annoyed Lance gets at the bad tactics by teams

[@deerfencer1]

Yeah, he needs to double up on his blood pressure meds and just chill a bit. Jumbo Visma obviously isn't listening to him and has its own agenda. Not Lance's race to coach, but as a still rabid alpha dog he just can't help himself I guess.

[@dickieblench5001]

What the hell was Asgreen doing?

[@NeverUkraine]

Why was Pogacar doing that final sprint, all that effort in the last 5km just to finish 10th? Wasn't even close to getting a top 3, with a tough stage tomorrow.

[@stevenmeyer9674]

The boy likes to race.

[@NeverUkraine]

@@stevenmeyer9674 it's only stage 8, he did same thing last year, all it takes is one bad day, and it's curtains.

[@JackieB5555]

Pogi’s gonna Pogo! Can’t help himself.

[@NeverUkraine]

@@JackieB5555 😂 I know, just too bad his team is so mediocre

[@Hightidetommy]

Erroneous - Erroneous on all counts! JB is awesome - he puts up with truckloads of shite from the dudes while keeping the show on the road.

[@peggyfoster1495]

I am so upset for Mark Cavendish I have been in tears and I am not even that huge a cycling fan.

[@julianz.9164]

"At the end of the day I don't care" moment was hilarious😂

[@ketocoach5904]

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[@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc]

Tire compounds are one of the best advancements in the last 20

[@user-gl3zk1dd3z]

Hard to beat this chemistry. But jB2 is damn good.

[@kevincross9206]

Such bad news about Mark, and I’d questioned if Astana were the team that were going to give him win no.35. I understand why Mark ran with them for the seat at the Tour, but as said in the show, reflects bad on all the others for not giving him the chance.

[@glywnniswells9480]

Its not over for Cavendish

[@jamesscheller1873]

My ❤ aches for M. Cavendish. I hope and pray he finds peace and strength in this moment. I will cheer when he starts TDF 2024🙏

[@carlmay4205]

When you guys sit and talk about these stages and the intricies of whats happening, I honestly hear Phil and Paul dramatizing the "look" the muslet hook, the slide and run across the grass, the pic of the TTT of Le Tran Blu......brings back memories of lost cycling buddies and the glory you two. (beat them at their own game LA) My first LS band was April 2004.

[@jonathanlaue3460]

Cav can do it in 2024 and it will be the greatest achievement in cycling. The best team should support him as a win will provide better sponsorship exposure than even a green jersey. Think about the newspaper headlines.

[@Montrealcycling]

Unfortunatly i dont think it will happend…

[@glennoc8585]

Cav mentioned that he's thinking of doing the vuelta so lets hope he can and maybe he'll come back for anout tdf.

[@stevenmeyer9674]

I think they have to cater to Wout enough to keep him engaged during the rest of the tour. Maybe there is some behind the scene morale problems.

[@brucegelman5582]

Jumbo needs a reality check.If they keep this up Vingo and Wout will be used up by the end of next week.

[@JackieB5555]

I never underestimate those beasts on bikes!

[@xsivemotorsports]

Cav broke the screw hole from his 2017 crash, it's a break where the screw already was. it will be a longer recovery, considering if he didn't already have hardware in there, it' might not have broken today.

[@glennoc8585]

How do you know this? Bones fill the holes from screws from osseo regenerat

[@xsivemotorsports]

@@glennoc8585 from Astana's tweet, however I might be off, the screw damage is in the joint (they used BIG words) , his collarbone is also broken.

[@colindewolfe3647]

@@xsivemotorsportsI just read it. The crash loosened the screw. Not that the screw made it easier to break.

[@heliumtrophy]

@3:37 For you sponsor skippers

[@AndrewFoley1]

Thanks. Ads are 10x more on this recap then other channels

[@heliumtrophy]

@@AndrewFoley1 It's got to the stage with many of these KZbinrs that I use Sponsor Block. Sometimes I do them myself but you gotta do what you gotta do.

[@aubertcordon8606]

Hey guys. I enjoy the podcast, keep up the good work. I was wondering what you guys think regarding the stage win records. I can't even begin to comprehend how difficult it would be to win a sprint finish. But, with that said, I feel like the Eddy Merckx wins are more impressive than Cav's. To me they are just a different animal almost a complete different race.

[@davidfaldrich]

I would think any team would have wanted Cav just for the publicity of chasing the record not to mention he can still win stages.

[@chewyfoks1840]

That's why Astana gave him a contract. Can't believe why no one else picked him up

[@AustinSkyline]

I agree ENTIRELY with Lance about Jumbo trying to dominate on Stage 9. It’s crazy. If Pogacar wants to ride easy for the rest of the Tour and lose by 20-odd seconds, let him. But that’s not gonna happen. If Pogacar attacks tomorrow on that last, steepest part, I predict he’ll win the Tour. Maybe not tomorrow’s stage, but ultimately the Tour.

[@johnd1466]

Stage introduction & a bit about Cav. Then Ads start @ 1.25 & finish @ 3.35. 👍

[@franksheridan9322]

Okay took a minute to process im good still love the tour but man he was progressing every day 6th to 2nd cant go out like that hopefully he trains like a mad man finds a mad George train and team and comes back next year but i respect any decision.

[@NosyNorseman]

Soo Jumbo was all in today pulling in front and guys used all they got the day before big GC day.. why ? Yes i know sprint for Wout..thats fine.. but why not just let the sprinter teams work ? Why go all in like this and in that heat 🥵 Could have been a vacation day … don’t get it.

[@OakleafOrganic]

Merckx-led UCI is blackballing Cav to preserve Merckx' all-time stage-win record.

[@chewyfoks1840]

Yep, JP sshoul've been relegated for dangerous sprinting (again), yesterday.

[@bicivini]

Cav to recover well - and then sign for another year with TUDOR 🙌🏽 come on Cancellara - Let’s kick the record

[@GrinddalCPH]

Normally id say tomorrows stage is perfect for JV, but I have this feeling Pog goes beast mode tomorrow.

[@kapilagarwal9244]

Why pogacar is sprinting and getting a lead out in this stage is beyond me…

[@bostjanloncaric]

Nice show, keep going 👍

[@dmoore4520]

Fuck I didn't even know Cavs crashed ... I missed today's stage until the recaps. That hurts. I'm was nice to see him get the giro stage

[@NosyNorseman]

Landa and Yates lost time and a rider went to hospital 🏥…just because a F❤❤❤❤❤❤ stupid spectator just had to step out on the road 🤬

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

40 years---clipless pedals, taped under break cables, composite bikes, disk breaks, electronic shifting

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

shifters on the break handles, not on the down tube..

[@glennoc8585]

Brake not "Break"

[@dickieblench5001]

Mostly irrelevant

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

@@dickieblench5001 one thing that hasn't changed in 40 years--most cyclists are still jerks compared to runners, etc.

[@Jen-iy7lq]

@ 23:00--There's a Velo article where TJV director clearly states they have two objectives this year, Wout and Jonas.

[@dickieblench5001]

This is basically the kids tv show Rainbow. Zippy George and Bungle😂

[@nolimit7185]

I wonder if teams like Jumbo or UAE can bring Cav for 1 season contract, get him to win and they become part of this legacy in addition to TDF team wins. Win win for Cav and the team.

[@BroccoliDwarf]

FYI, as far as I know there are no spectators on Puy De Dome tomorrow, it's closed to the public, because the road is only wide enough for 1 car and the drop offs are steep.

[@daronheggie7780]

My same thoughts, why would the Yellow Jersey team Jumbo pull so hard up front. It feels like some is trying to please Wout van Aert.

[@user-yv2vb9dw8p]

Philipsen should have been penalized twice for his tactics !

[@chewyfoks1840]

Yep, if the UCI followed their own rules, Cav would have the record. But 'Pinball' still allowed to ping around the sprints wherever he wants. He will kill someone one day.

[@jamesscheller1873]

Does The Move pod cast talk about the Race Across America (RAAM)?

[@donaldsoriano441]

💯 👏👏👏👏

[@johnhickman2033]

Gotta love steel!

[@christophspindler7800]

How is the song called at the outro😉? Love it

[@bobzelley5100]

Cav is Meant to be tied with Eddy

[@curtvaughan2836]

Bad luck for Cavendish. Eddy Merckx remains the GOAT, in pretty much all categories. Tough day for Mark. I hope he'll hang around another year to try for the record again. It really emphasizes how unique great wins are in professional cycling. It's HARD to be in great form, a great talent, and get taken down by a freak accident.

[@JackieB5555]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but they share the record currently. Agree Merckx is the GOAT, just saying he is tied for record for number of stage wins. Also, two incredible riders in different eras, different types of cyclists.

[@dickieblench5001]

I can't wait to see JV pulling up all the climbs tomorrow 😂

[@doublee3886]

I'm with Lance re Quick Step v. Cav, wtf?

[@wsbygt]

So close yesterday and now this.

[@brucegelman5582]

Why Laporte didnt peel off out of Wouts way is beyond me.Wout clearly would have won.

[@espowari]

I just looked at Google Maps and went up Puy de Dome. Extremely narrow, and a train rail on the entire time up. When the rail ends, it looks like the riders will cross the rails at an angle...?

[@espowari]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2qwi6KMqr6bmc0

[@fhowland]

So sad for Cav. What a horrible ending to his career.

[@fanda6122]

no more excuses for king wout he got passed on both sides today despite being in perfect position

[@deerfencer1]

Agree with Bruneel that Cav already had the record for most sprint wins and that his DQ crash today, while sad, is hardly the end of the world. I'm also guessing Merckx fans are relieved to see Eddie's record unbeaten by a punk sprinter. Life goes on.

[@joejones4181]

I would not call Cav a punk sprinter, just a sprinter. Person carried through the tour by his team to try and win a handful of select stages. GC riders, win in almost any condition and are not carried through stages too tuff for them. Jesus H Christ, are we actually having this discussion? F_cking joke. So what if Cav broke the record how is this explained to a novice bike fan? Huh, how? Well there are these special stages where the eventual winners don't try and win and just try not to be taken down in a freak crash, called a sprint. Some guys specialize in sprints BUT are NEVER in contention for the overall.

[@mikeoc217]

Cav. 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔

[@SY-ve5qm]

What is the deal of Lance with the polka dot jersey?

[@adenlycosky]

Ineos should do the right thing. Or I wouldn't mind someone like Jumbo say we can sacrifice a spot to give him a chance and pull him to a victory or 3 next year. I miss the old sprint train teams having control of the peleoton going into the final 10k. And for goodness sake can we move the same time marker to 5 or 10 km. So we don't have guys needing to half wheel going 50k

[@richardmcdonald307]

Jim Ratcliffe should see both the sporting and marketing opportunity and insist Ineos give Cav the full support for one last crack at it.

[@jonasjepsen5187]

the clip pedals!!!

[@dkvikingkd233]

I also think JV should cool it on stage 9!

[@jpmorgen5726]

Disc brakes!!

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

they should go back to 500 km stages....and get rid of teams. George's comment yesterday that cycling without teams is like tennis w/o a racket...was a bit silly . all my amateur racing was on my own...I think team tactics make the sport kind of boring

[@glennoc8585]

But local club group TT is better than solo

[@OneBikeForAll]

Pog vs Vin … I know nothing … however what about if fresh Pog is faster climber then Vin and Vin’s only chance is relentlessly trying out do Pog’s endurance wearing him out? Cheers!

[@DavidSmith-hz3jg]

High on stage 5-6-7, now switching off for a bit.

[@agcgilmour]

STI-ERGO shifters.

[@kathykoznek8976]

WHEN will Pogajar not get a free ride in the peleton?!

[@teleguy5699]

I can't get with electronic shifting. Saying that. I have a steel bike.

[@sjvche7675]

Big dudes, did I miss you dumping on NBCSN for dumping the Tour on Peeeecock on the weekends. If you haven't, you need to, porfavor.

[@silencedogood159]

NBC is trash.

[@meccanised]

so many riders have had broken collar bones that have ended careers. thats the game unfortunately.

[@MP48]

answer is right mileage but wrong year. Its Stage 5 of 1920

[@silencedogood159]

POWLESS !!! Polka dot USA!!

[@calcareadk]

Weltz (who was the last to win the stage of tomorrow, in 1988) was a Danish rider, I hope it will be a Danish rider again tomorrow :)

[@ld3336]

Cav comes back for next years tdf and breaks the record.

[@henriksrensen3220]

Jonas vingegard stage win tomorrow

[@louisvuittondom]

Stay salty should be Lance’s motto! 😂😂😂. Old mate be salty

[@picodegallo1959]

So is JV, accidentally, setting themselves up to fail?

[@satyrcreekergang4985]

No 3km line today, guys. Sad for Mark but luckily he won nr 35 yesterday. 👍 Stay safe 🤘🇺🇲🇩🇰🤘

[@RK01]

Awful for Cav, should have been his day yesterday!

[@joejones4181]

I am a huge critic of Cav taking the record from Eddie, I hate what happened to Cav. I have broken a collar bone (well, more than one) it sucks. I wish no ill will to any rider. Make a Sprinters classification for victories and as I have said, I am all in for Cav, but Sagen and Chipo had CLASS. Sagen bypasses sprints and enters into one of the greatest bike riders in history, not the Sprinter, that hung around long enough and was carried through the mountains enough times to somehow tie a bicycling history record. And I am sure he was clean, huh, what? What is clean? Give us a break, drama writers.

[@Montrealcycling]

SAGAN🤦🏼‍♂️

[@xsivemotorsports]

😭😭😭😭😭

[@robertpearson9137]

I know how that feels, well, the collar bone, not the rest of it...which must be way worse.

[@zimboy777]

Cav had his shot yesterday popped by a Belgian 😜 hope he recovers well but I’m kinda relieved we can stop talking about him there is plenty of worthy current talent and drama to come in this tour - lots of good classy guys to watch and talk about 👊

[@S_Edward_Burns_ArtsEditor]

$3K aka $2999.00

[@johnd1466]

TBH, Mads Pedersen always looks quite flushed, even during this years Giro about a week after he went home there was an interview indoors & he was looking flushed. it may just be sunburn… but that point LA made on Mads interview 15 minutes later still out of breath! Could it be an underlying condition?

[@kristophstjames4143]

what happened to the NBC coverage- it's not on, what stupid app is it on now?

[@pamelarenee1]

Peacock

[@waterboxer87]

I am pleased Eddy's TDF stage win record was not surpassed. Merckx is the best cyclist to ever mount a bike.

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

honestly maybe it is best for all that Cav is out---clearly wasn't mean to be....

[@Trofinios]

Jesus, JB is totally clueless and the level of analysis in general is so low. Without Johan, the show loses so much in quality.

[@glennoc8585]

Johan is the guru but the guys don't do a bad job

[@Ninja2710hr]

Mattias Skjelmose can win tomorrow.

[@Gaggerlotion]

Or one of the other riders

[@Ninja2710hr]

@@Gaggerlotion Guessing on 169 riders give you 98,3 % chance of being right. Let's see tmr.

[@transparent6748]

Sure it’s between vingegaard/pogacar in the end

[@Trofinios]

You can be happy if you get 3 minutes of substance in 40 minutes.

[@GordonA-Jr]

Glad Mark won’t get the record, he doesn’t belong up there with Eddie who won all the freaking races, all kinds of stages, different jerseys, etc.. and Mark who only does one thing, he doesn’t belong in the same breath as Merckx