PIRATES OF SILICON VALLEY: Steve Jobs meets Bill Gates

::NOT OUR WORK:: Scene were Steve Jobs meets Bill Gates

[@fer017xc]

well Wozniak has said they nailed the personalities

[@Ekrocker47]

Gates actually said that he thought this actor portrayed him very well.

[@BitcoinMotorist]

So did Jobs

[@FryCook87]

That's scary considering he seems like a total psychopath 😂

[@KinkyMaiden]

Psychopaths are more like Steve Jobs than Bill Gates. Bill in this movie looks far more autistic. I know because I am too.

[@vibovitold]

​@@KinkyMaiden are you seriously, clinically autistic, or "self-diagnosed sort of"? what i'm wondering is - if part of being autistic is struggling with social cues, "reading the room" etc., i'd expect it would be hard for somebody with autism person to recognize the difference between a fellow autistic person and an average one? no?

[@KinkyMaiden]

1. I said he look like, not that he is. Having an impression doesn't make him autistic, nor a psychopath. 2. Reading social cues is different from a analysis of someone behaviour in a movie. I am not blind, yes? 3. It is a spectrum and everyone is somewhat unique. People with autism can struggle with different things in different proportions.

[@MikeBoardley]

Woz says this movie is the most accurate portrayal of how everything went down and how the characters are depicted.

[@Shiro642]

They made Bill Gates come in with that music like an OP anime villian

[@mastersergioRosario]

ye

[@OK-ee9nh]

Shirohige lol

[@gregorymoore2877]

I took the background music as being the ambient soundtrack that is heard when the Steve Jobs RDF is active.

[@lordfatcock]

Well I mean in the intro he is pratically looking down on him.

[@SwaggerMcYolo]

i thought this music was because of steve who made his employees work 90 hrs

[@realRichHunting]

I saw this movie when it first came out. I was 17... I was already working on computers for a few years at that time, but this movie changed my life.

[@otto3967]

Richard how? It made you rich?

[@shawnchowdhury8141]

I am with you !!

[@josephtemple1667]

I remember watching this movie on VHS until the tape fried. Computers back in the 90s were considered "nerdy" so when a movie about computers--albeit a TV movie--came out, it was HUGE for us in HS who were really into the whole subculture.

[@saratc985]

1:44 Bill moving behind Steve like a Shark waiting on its prey

[@jaytirth]

An iconic moment in the history of personal computers. Amazing movie!

[@k.t.5405]

not as iconic as Gates in the IBM boardroom... they even framed it. LOL!

[@karenelizabeth1590]

This movie is so good. Really needs to get more attention.

[@CycleDoc675]

Can't believe nobody remembers who played Bill Gates: Anthony Michael Hall, from Sixteen Candles and the Breakfast Club. I loved this movie when it came out on TV in 1997 and still find it entertaining.

[@Stromboli15]

Michael Anthony Hall played Bill Gates…..he was the “geek” in 16 Candles.

[@Hannodb1961]

90hrs/week? Screw that. My career is there to support my life, not the other way around.

[@gorillaman283]

That's why they're all billionaires though now

[@jhonshephard921]

@@gorillaman283 no they aren't the executives are, not the programmers(at least not most of them). I suggest you look up Joshua Fluke's channel.

[@gorillaman283]

@@jhonshephard921 It has been confirmed that Bill Gates never took a day off in his life in his 20s. He worked every day of the week, for 10-12 hours daily, at a minimum.

[@pedinhuh16]

@@gorillaman283 I can point you to about 10 people in my neighborhood who works without taking days offs at all, maintaining their own small businesses. And these people do it because they live *slightly* above the poverty line, which means that if they don't work all day they will have to shut down their businesses and get evicted out of their homes because they can't pay rent. And these people will *NEVER* be as successful as Jobs or Gates, fuck it, they will never even get up to 5% of what Jobs and Gates are, because they have to provide to their families somehow and never had a proper education past the high school...And they are in their late 50s already. Welcome to the world of social inequality, *where working your ass off 24/7 literally does NOT MEAN SHIT to how successful you will be in your career and your life.* Jobs and Gates were crazy outliers, not the rule of what happens when you just bust your ass off everyday of your life.

[@jacketofthe80s13]

@@gorillaman283 the best saying ever. "just because you can do all these things and never sleep doesn't mean others can to" any creator who works and sacrifices his people to fill his own dream and desires can rot in fucking hell.

[@kristiannygaard6617]

2:35 Bill Gates: Dang, this shit isnt working. I play the IBM-card.

[@gregorymoore2877]

I guess the IBM card is the only thing that can penetrate the RDF shield? 🤔

[@peter08xxx]

This movie was so much better than the Steve Jobs one.

[@mskidi]

It doesnt get any better than this, for a movie about Jobs at least. Sometimes, things just come out perfect

[@frankdodd3355]

This is a fun movie. I love Bill Gates in this scene. Quietly observing the cracks in Jobs' facade. Like when he observes how miserable Jobs' coders are. And how the mention of IBM makes Jobs explode. He's playing chess, not checkers, and he's the real pirate. Fun stuff.

[@dre3241]

really

[@kristiannygaard6617]

IT really shows how Steve Jobs got destroyed by his own arrogance.

[@camerongoddard3846]

Kristian Nygaard How did he get destroyed?

[@kristiannygaard6617]

Cameron Goddard Sorry, maybe a little extaggeration, but Apple computers sold minimally compared to microsoft for a period of 20-30 years, after this.

[@camerongoddard3846]

Kristian Nygaard True, but that was after he left Apple

[@TheRosemontag]

The guy who played Steve Job's did a really great job.

[@Ekrocker47]

You should read Jobs' biography. They were absolutely like this.

[@williamtell5039]

Anthony Michael Hall was so great for this movie. He was making floppy disk wager jokes back in the early 80s.

[@manco828]

The thing is in real life, Bill Gates would often pull 72 hours straight at the office and would probably expect the same out of his software teams. So 90 hours/week might have been a reality during the Windows 1.0 push.

[@taylorparrish7638]

manco82 The difference is Gates was right there with them programming, leading the charge so to speak. Jobs had no clue of the stress and just yelled to get results. Causing them to grow to despise him.

[@daveheel]

that's definite burn out. most employees can't handle that.

[@paulallen579]

@Carlos Polanco Bill Gates did code, the last lines of code he wrote for Microsoft was in 1989.

[@AT-vq6nu]

I thought Bill Gates would murder Steve at the end of this scene, the way he was looking at him is terrifying

[@slipnorris5882]

he looked like a complete psycho here

[@iliabashel]

@@slipnorris5882 thats how ppl looked in 70th. he looks like serial killer jeffrey dahmer.

[@jayt4533]

Got his head-games game-face on.

[@sammytheface8821]

1:40 to the end......Gates looked more like Col. Hogan, circling his prey, Jobs as Col. Klink.......outsmarting, plotting, stalking, suggesting.....playing to Klink's enormous ego.

[@zaiENT1]

I havent even seen the other movies regarding apple, this is my favorite one and i saw it when i was 15, im turning 28 now lol

[@TimXJ]

Whew. A fine line between this an a Saturday Night Live parody.

[@bizuett]

A couple of Nerds never looked so dangerous

[@HELLADJ]

why is this scene so fucking creepy

[@PeterDavid7KQ201]

HELLADJ The music for one thing. The smooth and slimy "Jim Jones" charismatic preacher persona of Jobs, which occasionally and suddenly blazes up in righteous indignation and just as quickly cools back down to serene confidence. There there's Bill Gates, quietly prowling around, sly and fox-like, drinking in every detail from hardware to employee mood. After Steve shows off the crown jewels, demonstrating how invulnerable he and Apple are, Bill quietly walks up to Steve and suddenly proclaims "You're VULNERABLE!...in spreadsheets you know Steve" One hell of a great scene.

[@Emuface77]

smooth, slimy, charismatic preacher persona, sly and fox like, demonstrating invulnerable, just admit it you have a high IQ and you live in your parent's basement.

[@Emuface77]

+Peter David haha, Peter I've got no grudge against you. Creativity produces such mean things. I was reading your comment and started thinking a rap would be cool, but I only half finished it.

[@taylorparrish7638]

This is the moment Bill Gates played jobs and made/stole the idea for Windows. This is the moment that made the future of technology.

[@ThaWiseJester]

They were huge nerds,but at the same time some of the coolest guys on the planet at the time..

[@pinky12351]

Ok there is a reason why this movie is a thousand times better than Jobs and that is because this actor does something that Kutcher failed to do and that is really capturing Steve's state of mind. Think about it, Steve Jobs was both passionate and mad with power and only this actor successfully portrayed so smoothly whereas. When watching both movies you can tell, Kutcher was playing a role whereas this was becoming the role.

[@drstealyourgirl]

I thought kutchers performance was spot on especially after watching a lot of steve jobs interviews to compare, he even captured his mannerisms and expressions well.

[@dkupke]

Yeah, the thing I feel a lot of people tend to forget is that at one time Steve Jobs was a an arrogant, self centered a**hole. In his later life he even admitted to how out of control he got, even if he never completely broke himself of some of the habits.

[@satyam1529]

Yes. When I first saw this movie, it unbelievable that both characters look alike of real people. It really shows that it is happening in front of us. Very nice movie

[@ErikBreivik]

Selena Torres 💛

[@swaggy3987]

​@@drstealyourgirl yes, on sheer resemblence, kutcher matched jobs more. but that's why his performance was way worse and dull and less interesting. this actor, by accentuating one overarching specific quality of steve jobs from those days - namely his cult leader style and aggression - did a better job of *representing* what jobs was *like* during that time. kutcher was just a carbon copy, nothing interesting. this actor's performance actually made a meaningful statement / claim and presented jobs in a interesting light

[@Opethfeldt]

Machiavellianism vs. narcissism

[@ihopeutubedies]

Steve to Bill, "Re-design these nuts Bill."

[@rBennich]

Pirates of Silicon Valley 2 - How 'Bill Gates vs Steve Jobs' turned into 'Bill Gates vs The World'

[@smoothbeak]

Really great scene, some would say insanely great

[@NecromancerTO]

The music in the background - EPIC!

[@miniroll32]

As others have said - although the screenplay has great inaccuracies in order to create more drama, the portrayal of the some of the characters is excellent. Not only that, but the set pieces really take you to this time and place. Totally recommended.

[@thirien59]

my question is : were steve jobs and bill gates really like that? or were they dramatized for the show?

[@Shah_creates]

@@thirien59 Axccording to Steve Jobs himself (in Wikipedia for this film) he hated the screenplay but loved Noah Wyle's performance, who played him accurately according to everyone that knew Steve. Bill Gates also said his portrayal int eh film was largely accurate.

[@kidc2004]

@@Shah_creates I wonder why he hated the screen play? Did he explain why? Or can I assume he was just.. salty?

[@leozeld_nb]

@@kidc2004 Probably because of inaccuracies to increase drama

[@ae86takumi]

@@kidc2004 because it showed being an a-hole to his daughter. Steve was a bad human being

[@mustang6172]

I think Jobs is more interested in that turntable than the computer on it.

[@burntNoodles21]

0:57 makes Bill look like he's plotting a way to torture Steve

[@imapatching09]

MY favorite movie after GONE WITH THE WIND - I recorded it years ago and have it still in my DVD collection.

[@ANigerianPrince]

Everything about this is AWESOME.

[@RaiceGeriko]

1:49 That look just kills me. It's so subtle, but the drama of the scene makes it like 1000x more noticeable than it ought to be. It's so ridiculous, HAHA!

"like"? Why did you need the word like in there?

[@lordfatcock]

Bills seen some bad shit

[@computerkid1416]

Noah Wyle was no doubt the best Steve Jobs.

[@ayusha149]

Ashton Kutcher looked more like steve though.

[@yanava]

Noah got the voice acting just perfect.

[@backfandango]

he was so good they pranked MacWorld by having him come out to do a keynote pretending to be Steve

[@foxypaws9731]

computerkid1416 Absolutely true. Charismatic, very handsome man, intelligent

[@chendaddy]

Fassbender was a phenomenal Steve Jobs, he just looked absolutely nothing like the guy and slipped into an Irish accent once in a while.

[@jvolstad]

I wonder if Jobs realized that loyalty was a "two way street?"

[@BitcoinMotorist]

The guy who does Bender's voice is Steve Ballmer.

[@Mrmys1900]

jesus fuck wow

[@MrWhite-pn7ui]

That makes a lot of sense. =D

[@yanava]

What a fucking random comment

[@DThat492]

John DiMaggio

[@backfandango]

Moreno A. Hassem how is it random? he’s one of the actors in the movie

[@CYB3R2K]

I don't know who's the biggest serial killer here, Jobs or Gates lol this is so over the top 😂

[@occamsrazor1285]

God. Those two. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. They drove each other. The area what transformed our world into what is today. Their competition with each other is what made the world that Gibson and Nealson wrote of. Without Jobs, or someone to take his place; where will we go? RIP Steve. We'll miss you.

[@Arado16]

Occams Razor Elon Musk will probably make life multiplanetary and create a self-sustaining human colony on Mars. He is the next Steve Jobs

[@Jojo-kv6iv]

The first rule of Apple is: You do not talk about IBM: The second rule of Apple is: YOU DO NO TALK ABOUT IBM. Third and final rule: If this is your first day at Apple; you have to be up for 52 hours straight.

[@jacketofthe80s13]

that line "don't torture our guests with something they can't have" that's what a ruler/thief would say right before another steals it. that was your own mistake steve

[@user-cv6rg7wd6n]

“I’ve been up for 52 hours straight.” OK, no wonder they have the spinning beach ball of death.

[@1schwererziehbar1]

They could run this as a series on Netflix today and it would get raving reviews.

[@ForceMaximus84]

Nothing generates results like a rivalry. Someone to challenge you. Gates and Jobs fueled the computer industry into what it is today.

[@videotampa]

Michael Anthony Hall's greatest role ever..

[@causeeverytimewetouch6445]

This makes "Don't Breath" a SpongeBob episode lol.

[@varisware]

This movie shows the reality quite well. Too well I'd wager because the narcissistic Steve Jobs was apparently insulted by Noahs portrayal of him in this movie and then went on to publicly embarrass Noah on one of the Mac conventions.

[@CoconutPete]

I feel sorry for those that didn't get to experience the early days of computing back in the 70's & 80's. Nothing will compare to the excitement... except perhaps the birth of the web in the 90's. Good times

[@slpystv5942]

I can't get over the fact that Bender is playing Steve Ballmer.

[@swaggy3987]

still the best steve jobs movie ever made

[@rancosteel]

Such a great film.

[@charliedallachie3539]

I’m sure there was stuff going on in the 80s when both were hitting the market. That’s called competition. Microsoft has the most compatible OS and Apple has OSX in a sexy design. They really build their products well on the outside.

[@hensan3195]

r.i.p. paul allen

[@leomaredcampos4941]

You know that Steve Jobs is the protagonist but the real dominant pirate here in Pirates of the Silicon Valley is Bill Gates.

[@machack1103]

i hear about bill being the programmar and steve being the sales guy. you know Bill is a badass programmar and a badass sales guy. he fucking sold steve for fuck sake!

[@alluvialedaempfer962]

This movie is borderline ridiculous. They made Bill Gates look like a villain from an Austin Powers movie.

[@PauloConstantino167]

The actor that plays bill gates plays it so creepy lol. so good. Depicted bill gates spot on.

[@archieames1968]

Yup, he hasn't changed either. But all the morons believe he's suddenly a saint now because the throws stolen money at some decent causes to buy worship and influence.

[@MirekFe]

Archie Ames You know. It sort of reminds me of the followers of Hitler.

[@rupenderfox]

Bill Gates was not like this at all lol

[@ace942]

Paulo Constantino the actor’s name is Anthony Michael Hall. You might also remember him from the movie Sixteen Candles.

[@woop1161]

It’s the guy from breakfast club and sixteen candles

[@WatercraftGames]

Seems in this movie like Steve is bullying Gates lol

[@felicity4711]

2:15 I never noticed before that he rolls up the T-shirt as he says “all rolled into one”

[@Raphael_246]

And now Apple is worth 30x what IBM is worth.

[@bighands69]

This is way over the top and very theatrical and probably miles of the truth. But it still looks like a lot of fun though.

[@MirekFe]

bighands69 Actually, this isn't far off. You should read about the history of both companies. It's disturbing.

[@backfandango]

Woz says its pretty accurate with this only gripe is some of the stuff is chronologically out of order

[@ageaustin426]

The actor for Bill Gates looks more like Jeffery Dahmer the serial killer of the 80s

[@marci.5597]

I was using a mouse and graphical user interface as a kid in 1976 at Xerox PARC, about 7 years before the events of this scene. Xerox Star was released two years before this scene with these features - the technology was well known by this time (just expensive and not made for the consumer market).

[@jeffestaz3188]

Great movie, especially for a made for TV flick.

[@slicktheslickster]

Bought a Mac as soon as it debuted. It was one of those rare 'had to have it' moments.

[@slob5041]

love this movie, the subtle half life 1 music you don't notice.

[@lordfatcock]

I really like how you can watch bills body language where he's observing every detail. He even lingers by the overworked guy although I don't know if thats out of pity or he's bothered by it. Then the body language where Steve keeps his back turned pretty much insulting him, while Bill is pacing behind him in a panic but also like a shark waiting for a opening.

[@gregorymoore2877]

Amazing scene. Everyone seems tapped in Steve's RDF, but Bill is not phased one bit.

[@arbitterm]

The movie is very inaccurate with its facts, but the actors nail their portrayals perfectly.

[@fashionofthechrist]

Who else thinks the actor for Jobs could have played John Lennon in a film?

[@dukoth6552]

well, it is a dramatization, the point is that these people were still ruthless cutthroats, like any other rags to riches business man in history, despite being nerds

[@arricammarques1955]

Canadian actor Douglas rain died, 11/16/18 at 90. He was the voice of HAL 9000 in 2001. IBM=HAL. :)

[@Vylkeer]

Noah Wyle and Ashton Kutcher, the best to interpret Steve in both his physical appearance and body language.

[@MedalionDS9]

INSANELY GREAT

[@leonidas7692]

The spent the right amount of money for this movie.

[@starguy2718]

2:47 IBM, they're history. July 2021 market cap: IBM: $125 billion Apple: $2.3 trillion (with a "t")

[@TraumaER]

You obviously never saw an Apple shareholder meeting during the Steve Jobs era.

[@beefcake0354]

I saw the clip and expected to see many stupid apple vs microsoft arguments in the comment session. And surprise!! I wasn't disappointed.

[@ezteliita]

loved this movie

[@cameraman655]

Perhaps I am imagining this, but I believe that TNT inadvertently aired this well before they intended to do so in 1999. I vividly recall seeing it in the wee hours in the morning months before it “officially “ aired on TNT,. Anyone else recall this?

[@sheridanrathbun]

Bill Gates had next to nothing to do with Windows 8. As the CEO of Microsoft Steve Ballmer would be far more directly responsible for it.

[@AonnrecordsBlogspot]

Nah ... these dudes would never steal or cheat ... right? Right? Right? These guys are saints ... and 100% perfectly 100% totally honest. They would never steal from or cheat anyone on this planet earth ... EVER! Bet your career ... on that ...

[@Josh-it6uy]

please shut up

[@enonymuz8627]

the overdots hurt my brain

[@MrRoach00]

the best steve jobs movie so far

[@Prabowo1996]

wait an sec is bill gates played by "oh my god" meme guy?

[@CoreyChambersLA]

Amazing miniseries.

[@blackksabbath]

When you realize 80% of the people in that room are billionaires now

[@wton]

And the other 20% are dead. RIP Jobs and Allen.

[@D.D.-ud9zt]

@@wton And they enjoyed every minute of it, except the end most likely.

[@saerain]

Not really. They are each their own brand of ruthless in the movie, but not evil. Steve is a frightening bi-polar egomaniac and Bill is a deceitful backstabber, but that's just a part of their characters. They get pretty human portrayals all around. This scene seems as 'evil' as it does mainly because Jobs is putting on an intentionally intimidating show for Gates, who is in the process of figuring Jobs out.

[@PropaneTreeFiddy]

In the beginning of the video, I was hoping for the dude on the left to shout "DEVELOPERS!"

[@LakeHowellDigitalVideo]

"Let me show you the future." 128k, Monochrome Graphics on a 9 inch screen. LOL.....

[@albertPI007]

does anybody knows how to get this great bio movie please?

[@shawnchowdhury8141]

Making Bill Gates as Bad Guy, How Ironic lol

[@BadIdeaBearCub]

No this movie was actually made when apple was having its resurgence with the e-Mac. I suppose the story should've end with both men in their peaks. At the time Jobs died he was very successful and Gates was retired and doing charity, happily stepping down from being the richest man on earth. But the Apple Microsoft story has not finished yet. Apple shares has been declining steadily, except for the occasional announcement. Will both companies disappear in the future or even merge, who knows?

[@ZipSnipe]

Love the history, doesn't matter who stole what. Its the end result that matters. Apple and Microsoft created the next golden age of technology. Without them we would probably still be using DOS. I use both , my pc for all home stuff and my iPad for on the go, its a great combo.

[@D.D.-ud9zt]

Computers are boring now. I miss understanding how to code. I mean I still can but what I know is horribly out of date.

[@buttergaming56]

So true they die of overwork in Foxconn

[@GelatinousSSnake]

Just like Steve Jobs would have wanted.

[@woo545]

JOHN Bessler you mean the same graphical interface and mouse that was developed by Xerox PARC and demonstrated to Steve Jobs as well as other developers at the time?

[@JOHNBessler]

Yes they show Jobs going to Xerox PARC in the movie where Jobs gets the idea of using a GUI. Gates brings up Xerox PARC when Jobs accuses Microsoft ripping Apple for Windows.

[@JOHNBessler]

Yes

[@bibbler227]

It implies nothing. This scene was based on a real event as was much of the movie. To read about this particular scene, visit folkloreDOTorg and read the section titled "Shut Up" by Andy Hertzfeld. Hertzfeld explains how Gates assumed the Mac had special hardware to draw small bitmaps called "sprites", as did many early computers (The Commodore 64 is a good example)

[@hollyhockbaby1216]

need to buy this tonight