Animated Atrocities 147 || "Miracle on Evergreen Terrace" [The Simpsons]

[@Sjono]

The Simpsons will die when the main voice actors do. Morbid thought but it’s true

[@Xegethra]

Maybe when the whole cast dies, secondary characters have died off in the show because the voice actor died and never got a substitute.

[@mrtheman548]

Considering how many of the characters on the show are voiced by only a handful of voice actors, I can see this being the case. It'd be difficult to replicate the same charm as the previous actor gave

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Sjono Several of the German actors have died and have been replaced.

[@LauraM-kr9wv]

The Loony Tunes came back after Mel Blanc, and I'm sure The Simpsons will keep going as long as it still makes money, even if they have to change actors.

[@SpellboundWolf]

I worry about that often.

[@greatoverlordchikonmaster7226]

The steamed hams meme gave the simpsons another 4 years running time

[@christopherwallace7903]

Greatoverlordchikonmaster Steamed Hams but it keeps the Simpsons running for even longer

[@reasyrandom]

I hope your prepared for forgettable future seasons!

[@devilsummoner2163]

*6 years

[@PIB2000]

Damn you, internet! Why won't you just let the Simpsons die?

[@PIB2000]

@Scott Stamp You spelled centuries wrong.

[@Moonsprecher]

"Bart focused episodes tend to be the worst" Bart Gets an F tho

[@carlbloke8797]

Doll Doctor and Marge Be not Proud but yeah there are good Bart episodes but sadly there seems to be more bad than good lately

[@TSPH1992]

Doll Doctor I have seen that before

[@feraflauna3238]

+Doll Doctor-To be fair, especially over the last decade probably, they have dumbed Bart down so bad, that he even is a caricature of himself and the Bart-centered episodes tend to focus over just how stupid he is. Hur hur, let's all laugh at the idiot. The show completely ignores great episodes such as Bart Gets an F and any subtely (left) with Bart over how he can mischievous and a little dimwitted at times (although it used to be he was nowhere near as dumb as Homer was), he is a sweet boy who sometimes doesn't even like the reputation he has built up that he's a dumb prankster/slackoff. In Bart Gets an F, Bart finally realizes his bad grades are going to cost him. He's going to have to repeat the fourth grade if he doesn't pass the final test of the year. So out of his pride and willing to go far to get what he wants, to prove himself, he does everything he can to do so. And what's so heartbreaking at the end of the episode is that he doesn't pass, all his hard work still has left him with nothing. Sometimes, the price is just too great and it was only after Ms. Krappelapple realized Bart wasn't an idiot after all, and he did everything he could to pass the test, she gave him an extra credit to pass the test. That episode had a lot of subtlety, nuance, and heart and displayed very early on that there was more to Bart than met the eye and Bart isn't a bad kid. People often make that mistake in doing so and the writers have pretty shredded any true character left of everyone in the show where we all left with superficial shells of beloved characters, but if they really cared, they would know Bart is smarter than even he believes and he is a sweet kid, just a tiny bit rough around the edges.

[@razkable]

the telltale head the crepes of wrath kamp krusty bart the general bart gets an elephant bart gets famous brother from another series bart the fink radio bart seperate vocations saturday's of thunder bart after dark bart of darkness barts girlfriend itchy and scratchy the movie three men and a comic book barts comet bart on the road boy scouts n the hood..i would say bart focused episodes are the best

[@waterwolves1025]

Bart get an f is highest rated epesode and bart gets an elephant is good

[@isobelmiller7464]

I think it's funny when Bart says "It's crap-tacular."

[@kieranstark7213]

Miracle of Evergreen Terrace may have sucked for the same reasons Mr. Enter pointed out. But one of the best and only good things about it besides its hand-drawn animation is the scene that has "It's craptacular." which I heard from AniMat on his list of "Top 10 BEST Animated Sequels" about how great it is (especially by Pokémon anime standards) despite not being flawless (then again, completely perfect works of animation would be a rarity).

[@brutusthebear9050]

The problem is not Disney owning things, its that Disney hugely influences laws too much.

[@emperorgameling5064]

And that they own too many things

[@EngineerRiff]

I have nothing to add

[@HeavenlyArmed]

"It's worrying." A fitting end to 2017.

[@loggernamy]

give it 3 years later

[@iammegamanx]

Its 2023 pls take me back to 2017

[@Odenqueen]

Now a fitting end to 2024 as well

[@SLKibara]

The Final Animated Atrocity of the year! Keep up the good work, MrEnter!

[@muhjeed8989]

In The Mind of Kibara imagine enter uploads another at 11:59:59 and at the end shows your comment and says “you were wrong bitch”

[@themariomedic8753]

majid mohamed LOL

[@christopherwallace7903]

In The Mind of Kibara Though he said that he'd review something else that's a surprise. I think it's a review of the Regular Show Christmas special. What do you think it's going to be?

[@SLKibara]

Rapsittie Street Kids if he hasn't.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

In The Mind of Kibara He's better than Josh Thomas.

[@carlbloke8797]

Anyone ever noticed how in most bad episodes of Simpsons they actually start off legitimately funny before going downhill?

[@MforMovesets]

I thought this was the worst Simpsons Christmas episode ever, but then an episode came up where Lisa wants to friggin take the Christmas tree away from the family because it's tree murder and Bart pondering to kill Santa because he didn't get a bike the year before. That show is so dead.

[@feraflauna3238]

+MforMovesets-And Lisa was clearly established a long time ago to be a converted Buddhist. So. . .why would she care at all what the family does for Christmas? In fact, even when this probably was when the show was going south, when Lisa converted to Buddhism and was a massive prick to her family for still celebrating Christmas, Richard Gere gently reminded her that Buddhists can participate in other religion's festivities if they want to. It's about being respectful and so Lisa decided that even though she was a Buddhist, she could still participate in Christmas if she wanted. Even though she was a prick to her family about celebrating Christmas in there, she still realized at the end of the episode she wasn't right in how she approached the situation. That is MILES ahead of. . .whatever that episode is where Lisa throws a hissy fit that her family is chopping down a tree and likens it to murder. To. . .an intimate object. There's being an environmentalist and just being crazy. ..wait till she finds out she using trees for books and paper. . . And if the writers truly cared about this show anymore, they would realize that while Bart is mischievous, he's still a good kid. There was always a line even he wouldn't cross, and he never resorted to even threatening to murder someone. Like, Bart casually suggests he murders Santa because Santa didn't give him a damn bike? Just. . .screw you, Groening and the writers.

[@Spameggssausage]

Lisa was not being a prick in that ep, Marge was being a bitch by punishing Lisa for being a Buddhist.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Gold Coin Could you imagine those two meeting each other?

[@somedude9528]

+Spameggssausage They were both pricks.

[@ktv90125]

Yes, man. Those episodes were SO anti-christmas.

[@DinosaurFan88]

More and more does Disney remind me of that old political cartoon that depicted Standard Oil as a monstrous octopus enveloping everything in its path and coiling its tentacles around sectors of government.

[@lexi3312]

Disney and Google. The day they die will be a happy day

[@timothymclean]

A bad subversion is just an inversion. You take the common trope, and turn it into the opposite! A good subversion examines the trope, figures out why it's popular and where its faults lie and when it breaks down, and builds an actual story around exploring that. This takes more effort, so it's unpopular among certain types of writers. Luckily, it's less popular among writers who could do a good subversion well in the first place.

[@carlbloke8797]

Timothy McLean Gumball is a prime example of subversion done amazingly well

[@timmyreobed5043]

Timothy McLean That type of subversion has a specific title: Deconstruction. Seeing a cliche and dissecting it to see how it could be a horrible thing. This is incredibly easy to mess up, much like subversion in general, which is why we also frequently see reconstructions of these tropes and cliches, to see how one could make them work in more creative and interesting ways. It's like taking apart a scrapyard car and using the parts in conjunction with others to build a much better car.

[@voltmcvolt1751]

Reason why i love Hunter X Hunter, it is an amazing shonen AND a amazing deconstruction of shonen anime

[@voltmcvolt1751]

Reborn X Master okay sorry

[@dmas7749]

Like Timmy Reobed said, that's a deconstruction. A subversion is having it lead your audience to expect a certain trope is going to have it. Inversion is taking the trope and flipping it on its head, like you said. BUT it can be done well also. Take the protective big brother trope, typically they defend a little sibling from anything mean or hurtful directed towards them. Now what would the inversion of that be? Having the little sibling be the protective one. Sounds silly, right? That's where justifications come in; say the older brother isn't very athletic, or very good at standing up for himself, while the little sibling is more brave, takes karate, and isn't terribly young (say, 12). Tropes are not necessarily bad and this extends to all manner of implementation; be it subversion, inversion, double-subversion (makes you think it's not going to happen then plays it straight) or just straight-up playing it...straight.

[@VirtualBoy500]

What really annoys me about the Disney-Fox merger is how so many media news outlets are overlooking the widespread implications of the deal in favor of "NOW WE CAN HAZ XMEN IN AVENGERS!"

[@FuturamaFan2010]

VirtualBoy500 Fox is keeping there news and sports media so the right wing still have a news outlet. But yes Disney is still getting too big

[@gracekim1998]

Yeah this is too far Disney, too far.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

+FuturamaFan2010 Disney should have been forcibly divided for 50 years.

[@artydomi2466]

Anyone else here before Fox takes it down?

[@mr.meeseeks8313]

Artydomi me!

[@mollygiornado5420]

Artydomi here before it goes on viewster or another video site

[@SonGoku-fz7jc]

Artydomi would it be a takedown by Fox or Disney?

[@dannyfenlon2476]

Yep

[@Gamer4672]

Mr.Meeseeks, I ask you to go destroy Fox and Disney

[@cameronspalding9792]

When Kent Brockman found out what really happened: Bart said that he acted alone but the town treated the whole family like they were in on it

[@jacksonconley5117]

Part of that is kind of on Homer for saying the wrong stuff to the media.

[@DamnZtar]

⁠@@jacksonconley5117isn’t Bart more to blame since Homer, along with the rest of the family, were fooled by Bart’s lie?

[@nopenopenopesomuchnope4137]

I got an idea on how to do this episode right. Have the same issue happen. Bart accidentally burns down the tree and uses the burglar lie and the town donates their money, but instead of Bart coming clean and being punished for it, he uses the town's money to make some kind of big Christmas Show and during the finale of the show, Bart comes clean and reveals this show was possible due to the town's money. The people and the family at first, don't know what to make of this, and Bart is about to sulk off the stage, thinking that the town is mad at him, but then the town starts cheering happily and his family comes up to the stage and hugs him. "You aren't mad that I lied...?" Bart says. "Oh, we were...furious in fact...but then we remembered this wonderful show you put on for all of us. How could anyone stay mad after you not only fixed your mistake, but made this Christmas the best Springfield will ever have?" Marge replies. Bart smiles and hugs his family and it ends with all of Springfield gathered around a fire and singing Christmas Carols.

[@windowlightstudios4733]

Yeah, personally it really hurt for me to see them blow all that donated cash away on a new car and then watch it get completely destroyed after they drive it onto a lake. Yikes, and I thought I was bad with money!

[@azzurraguarnieri8651]

Wow dude your alternative episode idea Is actually a Better Christmas special episode

[@Blackiecomics]

Imagine if Disney decided to go political. I literally screamed in horror at that thought there.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

Blackiecomics Didn't somebody at Disney want to run for president in 2020?

[@BrickBuster2552]

They made a movie about a branch of the US government being a secret front for actual Nazis. In 2014.

[@Alondro77]

Silly people, they already have. They're just more subtle than most.

[@BrickBuster2552]

Pulp Fiction is a Disney movie. So are There Will Be Blood, Kill Bill and No Country For Old Men. All under Disney's Miramax.

[@whyequalswhat]

"I literally screamed in terror" no you didn't. Shut up.

[@PB-gy9ru]

Well. Time for bed. *Mr Enter has uploaded a new video. Screw sleep!

[@zacksphere6328]

Same bro

[@stevenrowan9244]

Ant Amaya Lol same here

[@zacksphere6328]

Garfielf What would wish to do for 2018

[@stevenrowan9244]

Abelardo Pena Eat some lasaga and kick odie off the table some more.

[@zacksphere6328]

Garfielf 😅😅

[@Sinistar1983]

And soon Disney will buy the moon and have THE true Disney world

[@zitrodivad]

Sinistar reminds me of that episode of futurama with the theme park on the moon

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

Miracle on Evergreen Terrace actually could've done this in a somewhat clever way if they would've ended it with Mr. Burns offered to pay for the Simpsons or give them some cash, because he's so inspired by Bart's ability to lie. Like a reverse Scrooge sort of thing.

[@gdragon42069]

"Just because you're different doesn't mean you're useful."

[@apocalypse_march1499]

Feminists/LGBT be like:

[@evilbird4012]

Apocalypse _March what the fuck is wrong with you

[@PIB2000]

Ironically the people who would agree with the episode probably have a mob mentality and like to silence opposing opinions, usually because of the opposition being different to them. Besides that, different doesn't automatically mean good. Being different is obviously not inherently bad either, but I'm pretty sure my town's local drug addicted murderer was quite a different guy. Sure, he bit off part of a girl's tongue, but I guess he's just quirky like that.

[@gobalbucs]

@@evilbird4012 No, no… he’s got a point. This coming from a Bisexual lol

[@gobalbucs]

@@PIB2000 Different denotes neither bad nor good, and I’m sick of people (and certain _groups_ of people) touting this idea that being different automatically makes you special and good. It’s just as asinine as people believing that being different automatically makes you hell-spawn.

[@Crimson_Mayhem]

Here's to 2018, everyone! Thank you for all the support!

[@dragontales1999]

TheCrimsonMayhem 2018 is gonna be as bad as this year anyways, last year I thought 2017 would be better than 2016.

[@marioisbusted]

TheCrimsonMayhem You’re welcome.

[@dantekenway7900]

TheCrimsonMayhem and you are?

[@carlbloke8797]

TheCrimsonMayhem to 2018! Let's hope it's a bright future!

[@train4292]

You’re welcome!

[@Adamguy2003]

There was one gag to this episode that I found funny: When the Simpsons are driving their new car, moments before it's destroyed, they begin happily singing 'Here Comes Santa Claus.' Mid- song, Homer suddenly switches to 'Jingle Bells,' while still keeping the melody to the former song. I thought that was funny and clever, and in character for Homer. @ 15:21- 15:25, I must respectfully disagree. I'd say the worst episodes are the more recent (As in, over the course of the last 10- 12 years or so) Lisa- centered episodes. Explanation: While Lisa has always been portrayed as a political activist and whatnot, over the course of the series, she gradually but quite noticecably morphed from a sweet, wise, and devoted girl who cared about causes but also generally cared about respecting other people's feelings and beliefs, into an increasingly obnoxious, self- righteous, arrogant little brat CONSTANTLY forcing her increasingly- radical views on everyone, and throwing a temper tantrum whenever anyone dares to commit the heinous crime of disagreeing with her on any issue. In spite of this, the show in its recent episodes centering around Lisa portrays her as HEROIC for doing this! Wow, what a great role model!

[@carlbloke8797]

Adamguy2003 she pretty much became the Brian Griffin of the show. THATS how bad she's become!

[@YujiUedaFan]

@@carlbloke8797 At least Lisa didn't give Maggie herpes. But I don't know how Lisa has pretty much become another grumpy character, like grandpa.

[@Adamguy2003]

Oh, and regarding the "Disney owns Fox" thing, there's another angle to this that a lot of people seem to be missing (Or maybe it's just because I live in the Florida area and see the issue I'm about to discuss firsthand): I think a big part of the reason for many of Disney's mergers is due to their theme park rivalry with Universal and seeking to squeeze as much money out of Universal as possible. Explanation: As most of you are probably aware, Disney's Orlando (Technically Kissimmee, but close enough) theme park Disneyworld's undisputed #1 competitor is the Universal Orlando Resort. One of the more popular and well- liked areas of the Universal Resort among fans is Marvel Superhero Island, located in their Islands of Adventure park. So, Disney bought out Marvel so that, while they can't get Universal to shut down Marvel Superhero Island (Indeed, Universal wouldn't WANT to, considering how popular of an attraction area it is), they can get Universal to pay them considerable royalties fees for it. Then, in the late 2000's, Universal Orlando Resort opened another incredibly popular attraction: The Wizarding World of Harry Potter. In response to this, Disney bought the rights to all the music from the Harry Potter films. So, now, for Universal to be able to play the beloved musical tones from the films that fans would expect them to in the Harry Potter areas, they must pay MORE royalties fees to Disney. Now, Disney buying Fox is likely meant to squeeze even more royalties money out of Universal Orlando, due to it having the Simpsons Ride and an entire segment of its Universal Studios park themed around Springfield.

[@carlbloke8797]

Adamguy2003 thanks for the tip

[@crinsombone5380]

I hate Disney even more now

[@thevgmlover]

Welp, I can now imagine they're doing all this just to destroy Universal's Theme Park. The way they're doing it, it seems a bit dickish, to be honest. :/

[@Altair718]

Oh. *oh no*

[@590488]

Carl Bloke the whole Disney vs. Universal thing is dumb. When universal opened in Florida it was a flop, of the 6 opening day attractions only two of them worked. When island of adventure opened Disney was ready for it to be a success and had plans to announce a whole villain area in magic kingdom as well as an expansion of animal kingdom, both would include top tier thrill rides, but IoA flopped as well at first. Universal got lucky with Harry Potter and, to this day, is the only thing universal has going for them, which has since essential forced Disney to open the world of padora, galaxy edge and marvel land to combat it. Universal still makes a fuck ton more in the movie business (as NBCUniversal is a larger company then Disney)

[@tophatcat9996]

First disney was writing about Buy'N'Large... Now they're becoming Buy'N'Large

[@WindowsXPFrog]

I never understood why Marge didn't want the kids to use alarm clocks. What's so wrong with an alarm clock?

[@filmbuffgrabiec5875]

So they wouldn't set them to get up early

[@WindowsXPFrog]

Ned Grabiec but what’s wrong with them getting up early? The rest of the family woke up not too long after Bart did anyway.

[@filmbuffgrabiec5875]

Because Marge said she wanted them to celebrate Christmas as a family, and they were up just after 7

[@masonasaro2118]

marge was always a little strange.

[@RidleyKraid187]

It's like people are afraid of tropes. They think tropes are going to ruin their work; make it generic or something, so they have to try and subvert it as much as possible (despite many of these subversions actually being tropes in and of themselves). But Tropes, even Cliches if used wisely and sparingly, are still important tools needed for any story. Don't make the story about the subversion, use the trope to enhance the story and subvert when it makes sense to do so.

[@patrickflying17]

Hey, a fellow Terrible writing advice viewer.

[@carlbloke8797]

RidleyKraid187 yeah tropes and cliches by themselves aren't a bad thing, sure there are bad and annoying ones but plenty can be used well if the show you have plays it to its strengths. Shows like Gumball and Loud House do amazing spins using tropes and uses them in a unique way

[@RidleyKraid187]

@Flyboy179 Well.... I mean, I am, but I wasn't thinking of TWA at the time of writing that. Maybe subconsciously, but he (and certainly I) wasn't the first one to come to this conclusion. I do read and watch a decent amount of stuff on tropes and cliches, so more than likely this was an amalgamation of all that, not just TWA.

[@phillip8733]

Exactly! I got to see Pixar's Coco and I loved it. It had cliches and tropes in it but it uses them to their advantage!

[@mystic-malevolence]

I see you there, TvTropes reader.

[@TheAnonyomusGuy]

To be honest there's really only one question left who's going to buy who? Disney or Google.

[@gobalbucs]

More like, who will be our options for the US President _this_ time? Disney or Google?

[@paradoxglitch1108]

Disney even with all of its money can't buy google even apple and Microsoft have more money than them

[@Demonslayer232]

The town's treatment of the Simpsons in this episode reminds me of this one teacher I had back in my first high school, who had the mindset of 'the good must suffer for the bad', and would keep the entire CLASS back after school if only a few students, or only even ONE, did something bad.

[@93camping]

That's the kind of shit they would do in Gulags. If a prisoner escaped, everybody who shared the house the escapist lived in was punished.

[@PhoenixRising87]

My elementary school teachers did the same thing (funny that this was the same elementary school that was so abysmally bad at dealing with simple disciplinary issues like bullying effectively; punishing a couple of bullies should be easier than keeping your entire class in for recess for the week just because you, as the teacher, couldn't get a few kids under control).

[@HarbingerYT]

I'm having the same problem. It's laziness, i tell you.

[@ElliotKeaton]

@ElectricMayhem87 (Ashleigh) The mentality behind that decision is that, from the bullies perspective, detention is worth it and suspension is just a free vacation. But if the authority punishes the group every time the individual acts up the group will turn against the individual. It works in theory and schools don't care whether or not something works in practice.

[@donboy65]

As someone who has seen that happened, I think that punishing the whole class for the actions of a few is wrong. That type of thing should be ABOLISHED from all schools. I know some may justify that, but let me ask them: would want to punish a group of people for what one person did? Would you blame someone for the actions of their relatives?

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

You know, there actually was an episode of "Hey Arnold" that was the opposite of It's A Wishful Life. During a magic trick performed by Arnold, he makes Helga "disappear", and she sneaks out the back of the disappearing closet when he tries to bring her back, and imagines everyone missing her. Then she has a dream about her really having disappeared, and no one missing her. Her parents don't miss her. Phoebe has a new best friend. And Arnold is rich and famous for making her disappear. But the reason this was a good message was because it reminded Helga not to take the people in her life for granted. In that episode, she'd ignored her dad's birthday, yelled at Phoebe and made fun of Arnold (as usual). When she came to, she ran home, gave her dad a birthday present, and then went back to reappear in Arnold's magic show, giving flowers to Phoebe as a sign that she really did like and appreciate her. She even tried to say something nice to Arnold, but he was mad at her for sneaking off and almost ruining his show, so he cut her off. Point is, THAT's how you do a subversion of something like It's A Wonderful Life. The character actually has to deserve to not be missed.

[@adampkalb]

You are right! The reason why that all failed in It's a Wishful Life is because Timmy did not deserve to not be missed, and the intended moral of the story to do good deeds because they are the right thing to do, and not to expect a reward out of them came across the wrong way by having everyone Timmy tried to help treat his efforts like they were the *wrong* thing to do! I get it now! November 28, 2019, 12:44pm

[@frostyfreezyfreeze54]

I think The Suite Life on Deck also subverted It's a Wonderful Life in the same way that Hey Arnold did. Everyone's lives are better without London and she ends up dying alone, but she was selfish and greedy and had to learn to care for the people around her.

[@mintymilo6739]

I remember back when i was little i always thought Marge's hair was a blue beehive.

[@ChiSportsNut18]

lol you just made my day XD

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

Fox, I got bamboo shooters. Keep this video up fam.

[@dragonempress8367]

Omg you watch him too?!

[@smashpil3505]

no you dont. they have rocket launcers

[@The_GhostWind]

Hello talking panda, I wasn’t expecting you to be here. Also happy almost new year

[@geardog24]

What is this, a crossover episode?

[@fredricknoe3114]

ya mean Disney right?

[@bobbyferg9173]

Not sure why you decided to tag on the Disney Monopoly bit at the end when it would have been better if you gave a full video to discuss this and have more people listen.

[@TimeTellsNoLies90]

He did that because the Simpsons is owned by Fox, and considering that Disney recently bought Fox, seems relevant to talk about it in here.

[@thoranzalarvhazen4250]

He could do a follow up later

[@TheDataByteChannel]

I agree. We shouldn’t look at the Disney/Fox merger as a “oh that happened” more like “Be Concerned”!

[@bobbyferg9173]

Granted their isn’t much we can do even if we wanted

[@ChibiRuah]

If you ever see 2 companies of that size merge, you should always be worried. The risk are always worse than the potential pay off for everyday people imho

[@PTSDSquirrel]

the secret aristocracy is starting to show its ugly and ACTUALLY fascist hand. There is no democracy, only the Plutocracy. Find out WHO owns even Disney and Fox and you will find out that their is SO much in the hands of a few it will scare you. To start ya, 50% of all of planet Earth's; assets, wealth, land value, as well as all the rights therein is owned by currently by 6 people.

[@orangecat504]

PTSDSquirrel PTSDSquirrel i agree even with the silver lining (X men in MCU) this really shows America that money turned this place to a corporatetocracy

[@carlbloke8797]

Bobby Ferg that's the kind of attitude that makes them winning. This is still a democracy after all

[@gracekelley2907]

You know, I'm really glad that you reviewed this episode. I remember watching it as a kid and hating how mean spirited it was, especially the ending.

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

I don't know if anyone has said this yet, but I feel "The Gripes" of The Amazing World of Gumball (I think that was the title of the episode) did a much better job with the theme of "Townpeople give the main family money it doesn't deserve or need". It wasn't a great episode, but it was better than this. For one thing, it wasn't mean-spirited like this episode, and it had a theme of how a bad attitude can put you in an awkward and undesirable situation (as well as how you shouldn't jump to conclusions).

[@carlbloke8797]

Kara O'Connor yeah It was a pretty great episode with how it does the plot better

[@missconstruct6968]

Please do a best and worst episodes list of the Simpsons

[@christopherwallace7903]

MissConstruct What's the point? Everyone has made those lists

[@carlbloke8797]

MissConstruct well you can check out Nostalgia critic's list

[@moonlightrobbery]

I totally agree that Disney is getting too big. Way too big.

[@t_man7259]

Organic Fantasy it probably wouldnt have got that big of they got someone like Walt Disney to run it after his death instead of Esiner who was a complete jerk

[@Alondro77]

And the latest Star Wars movie is a clear indication that they are going to ruin everything in the long run.

[@Alondro77]

*looks at the RT audience score for The Last Jedi* 48% positive with 182,000 ratings... (that means 52% posted a failing rating) you only know that Common Core math, don't you? And the score of 7.5 on IMDB's audience score indicates an average movie... even with the hundred thousand people who only signed up to post their one 10/10 after the score had lingered at 6.9 or lower for several weeks. Looks like about between one-quarter (that's 25%) to one-HALF the audience didn't like the "The Last Jedi" depending on which site you go to. Compare that to "The Force Awakens", which I felt was an ok Star Wars film even if it was basically a repeat of "A New Hope" with a ludicrously huge Death Star... which got an RT audience score of 88%.

[@carlbloke8797]

Honestly The Amazing World of Gumball's The Gripes did this plot 10 times better

[@YujiUedaFan]

Because Gumball and Darwin destroyed their home on purpose.

[@cloudycanine9682]

This popped up when I was watching Steamed Hams videos.

[@willd8574]

Poochyena *S T E A M E D H A M S*

[@sanjapetrashek8608]

Over the past week I have watched 100s of your videos because they make me think. They have me question the fundamental elements a good story needs and a bad story lacks. You've not only entertained me but taught me why a well written story is good and what makes an atrocity so very bad. Thank you for your brilliant and often insightful contribution to the world.

[@MeganKoumori]

18:07 "Say you're a new upstart company and you've released your first animated film. Well all Disney needs to do is air their movie on the same weekend as yours, throw all of its advertising dollars at it from all of these mediums, and crush it." You mean like they did back in the 90's by re-releasing "The Lion King" on the "Swan Princess's" opening weekend? "Lion King" had already been out of theaters for months when they brought it back; "Swan Princess" was no threat to Disney. The "Swan Princess's" director refused to concede to Disney when they wanted to make a Swan Lake movie of their own and told him to stop his version. He wouldn't so Eisner made sure it bombed.

[@carlbloke8797]

MeganKoumori quite tragic

[@Lambda_Ovine]

Yeah, exactly.

[@KyoshinTekinaStudios]

MeganKoumori My sister and I used to watch _The Swan Princess_ all the time - but thanks to Michael Eisner, we were probably the only ones. :(

[@MeganKoumori]

We had it on VHS. I honestly don't remember if my folks took us to see it in theaters but I doubt it.

[@KyoshinTekinaStudios]

MeganKoumori Well, I was born in 1996, so I couldn’t have seen it when it originally came out. My parents must’ve bought the VHS tape around 1995, when my older sister turned 1, which lead my younger sister and I to continuously watch it throughout most of our childhoods in the mid 2000s.

[@Barberfrog]

Fun Fact: I wrote an essay on One Coarse Meal in 8th Grade.

[@whatever2467]

Blueblur2006 Really? How did it turn out? Did you got a high mark?

[@waterwolves1025]

Why

[@SpellboundWolf]

What grade did you get?

[@lennychurch]

What you said about being made to long for the cliche brings to mind my main complaint about Kingsman: The Secret Service. The hero “saves the day” several minutes after a cell phone signal has started turning people into murderous mindless barbarians, and we know from previous scenes that those people are completely capable of using more than just their fists. There’s no way that hundreds of millions of people weren’t killed in those few minutes, including several countries' militaries, yet the hero acts nothing but triumphant afterward. And more than once when I’ve brought this up, people have praised it for subverting the cliche of a weapon of mass destruction being stopped at the last second.

[@sledgehammersssssquad3624]

"what happens if you write a horror story where the car does start?" CATHERINE

[@fredjones2170]

I think this is one of your best-produced reviews so far - the volume mixing is great, and it’s a well-written analysis on how to do subversion right. Good work!

[@carlbloke8797]

Fred Jones yep

[@JustPressPlayYT]

If you ask someone "you watch the new episode of The Simpsons?" I usually get the answer "Its still on?" Its fallen way into obscurity.

[@Rockymann27]

Not really.

[@JustPressPlayYT]

Rockymann27 dont know where you've been, try asking anyone, theyll know the show, but I DOUBT they even know its still on the air

[@Rockymann27]

I actually did 4 days ago and they very well knew the show was on. You sound like you like to over exaggerate.

[@destroyerblackdragon]

The Simpsons isn't going anywhere. At least not until the whole cast either dies or is unable to work anymore. I don't think they would replace the actors.

[@JustPressPlayYT]

Pelcogo Hear me out: I liked the Simpsons when it was good, but its time to let another piece of gold take its place, lets see who the next Matt Greoing will be, lets introduce a new creative cartoon, I mean theyve tried this before, but with it being just Family Guy and The Simpsons, they might take it seriously when picking a new animated show. (Fox)

[@Crimson_Mayhem]

Now that Disney owns Fox, we can finally have a Family Guy ride!

[@kaelanmcalpine2011]

TheCrimsonMayhem I was honestly going the route of saying they can finally fix the long dead creative slump of The Simpsons.

[@EatWave]

Their Pawtucket Patriot Brewery ride can just be a re-skinned Willy Wonka ride.

[@DDBurnett1]

Hmmm, I don't know, I think the show is simply too old and has exhausted too many ideas to do anything with it. MAYBE if they sort of relaunch it with the show set back in the 90s, more like the classic Simpsons.

[@zebare726]

TheCrimsonMayhem And another Simpsons game and movie.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Why would you want that?

[@NinaMarieNPianoKeys]

The Simpsons is my favorite Manga

[@mexicant90]

NinaMarieNPianoKeys The manga is actually called "Simpsons". They just added the "The" part to the name of the anime because it sounded good.

[@spicymilkshake6600]

NinaMarieNPianoKeys smh the Matlu Patlu manga was better 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

NinaMarieNPianoKeys Pfft. Get with the times. Corey in the House is the greatest anime ever.

[@Recoil1808]

Most of these subversions have _better_ ways they could've been subverted.. Even the TTG episode (as much as I hate admitting it). 1. "Miracle on Evergreen Terrace" could've still had much of the plot unchanged, but instead of robbing them for all they're worth simply take their "charity" back. That would make sense. Springfield is fickle, anyways, and the family could have still reached that conclusion that "atleast they've got each other." 2. "It's a Wishful Life" could've had it so that _almost_ everybody's life was worse off without him, so long as there was _one_ person that Timmy couldn't stand to see suffer, even for the sake of the rest of the world, and it was clear that s/he was worse off without him (personally; I'd suggest the Fairy God Parents). Suggestions include (but are not limited to) _anybody_ that Timmy had gone out of his way to help with a problem he didn't solve. Another alternative would be to show the characters generally seeming better off _at first glance,_ or showing them seeming better off, while the world _itself_ was crap. So long as it provided anything but the fear of nonexistence to drive Timmy to recant. 3. "Town and Out.." Actually I've got nothing for this one. 4. "Arnold Betrays Iggy" could've had Iggy realize that it was _entirely_ not Arnold's fault, but reveal that he doesn't _care_ that it isn't, revealing that he may not be an all that great person. It could've made some of Arnold's friends rally behind him when Iggy went too far. It could've _actually_ made it Arnold's fault, partially justifying his attempts to make amends. It could've done a _lot_ of things, 5. "Staring at The Future" could've taught the idea of Carpe Diam. Literally the exact same idea -- only 90% less stupid.. And yes -- I am almost certain that what it's trying to say is _not_ to live in the moment, but that's just as stupid.

[@austinmorrison6953]

Yes because nothing says happy holidays like the most mean spirited Christmas episode ever

[@YujiUedaFan]

Remember the first episode, where Homer loses his Christmas money and is all "we're waiting for a Christmas miracle"? In the end he got Bart a dog. This episode is just a middle finger to that episode.

[@Antiformed]

7:00 That is literally the theme of an episode of Johnny Bravo. His guardian angel needs to prove to him that the world would be worse off if he died, but everywhere they go, people's lives were much improved by him not existing. It's a decent episode.

[@foxtoons1999]

Antiform MrEnter said that the Johnny Bravo episode worked for 2 reasons: 1. Johnny is an idiot and 2. The guardian angel was actually trying to help. Meanwhile in the FOP episode, Jorgen is a sadist.

[@raelogan]

Antiform I was actually about to comment on that, but you beat me to it. XD The reason he had his "epiphany" of why he should exist was because his face print (his "prettiness") in the cement wouldn't exist.

[@carlbloke8797]

Couldn't agree more

[@coreylineberry8557]

Also, there was another one for the Angry Beavers.

[@carlbloke8797]

Merged Zamasu and Rugrats

[@samuelham4520]

OH BOY 3 AM

[@Missmay123p]

Generic Letsplayer it's 12:53 am for me

[@projp9057]

FOR ME IT’S 11:55 PM

[@Missmay123p]

Chevere Hugprack woah.. nearly opposite to me

[@lunarfire1584]

For me, it was 12:03 AM when I started.

[@nuts2733]

1:38 for me

[@PatrickBoy412]

Remember when Regular Show brought in Thomas, then randomly turned him into a Russian spy and wrote him off like a season later

[@zzz43344]

I remember

[@theleonpasta7336]

Do people not like Thomas? I remember liking him and even his twist later.

[@bluebonnetdaniel8606]

Me. Enter in 2016: "Imagine if Disney wanted to go political. With everything that they had." Doctor Strange: "Congratulations. You're a prophet."

[@VinnyMartello]

I hope to God that Disney doesn't buy Hasbro. If Twilight and Cadence fall into the ranks of "Disney Princess" then it is a dark day indeed.

[@carlbloke8797]

VinnyMartello agreed. Because I really liked Twilight and Cadence's take on being princesses

[@NitroIndigo]

If this makes you feel any better, Disney Princesses have to be human by definition.

[@APPictures9]

Happy New Year, Enter! Let's all hope that 2018 is better than 2017.

[@d.danger4335]

Alberto Productions 2017 is alright but after that solar eclipse, this is where the shit hits the fan. So many terrorists, so many lives lost and hurricanes a plenty and Trump with his bullshit as he hides his plans with Russia the entire time as we try to impeach him.

[@d.danger4335]

George B what is wrong with u

[@tiavor]

Daniel Machado there is no colusion with russia ... do you believe everything if it is told often enough? there is no evidence for this, all you have is the word of the media.

[@Reckno64]

God I hope so. I'll keep optimistic, but I feel like 2018 will be.....a wild ride.

[@christopherwallace7903]

Alberto Productions It looks promising, with TTG finally getting a theatrical release.

[@MeNowDealWIthIt]

The Disney buying fox bit felt like it belongs in a separate video.

[@kalebdaynes]

I'll gotta admit though, even bad Simpsons episode are about a million times more intelligent and creative than say, Family Guy (Boys of Bummer being an exception). I don't love the new episodes, but they're alright. I'm probably kind of biased, but I can't bring myself to hate The Simpsons, because I grew up with it. Modern Simpsons isn't great, but I've seen far worse shows, so the effect is pretty mild to me. There's more or less a sense that they're at least trying.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

the new episodes are just really boring and have been done in its own series at least 3 or 4 times at this point.

[@kalebdaynes]

True, but any long runner is bound to run out of ideas, and the Simpsons, being the longest running animated cartoon series to date, is certainly no exception.

[@carlbloke8797]

except one piece

[@kalebdaynes]

I wouldn't know, I've never heard of it until now.

[@richieosborn2639]

Homer’s plot in Boys Of Bummer was better than The A Plot.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Disney needs to be broken up, its time to put anti-monopoly laws into overdrive.

[@flim148]

SkyTech RTS first they need to be hot in the wallet, BIG time, we just have to make sure it happens a few times in various places

[@t_man7259]

Apparently they did Disney apparently is no longer allowed to buy anymore company's now

[@t_man7259]

@@reecemota4028 The FCC layed it down once they finalized buying Fox

[@TheFrugalVideoGamer]

Any chance of getting an "Admirable Animation" for "Bart Gets an 'F'"? And in mild defense of "Arnold Betrays Iggy" - it does teach the lesson that, sometimes, the price someone asks for their forgiveness can be too high.

[@tompossessed1729]

Simpsons is the best example of greed killing art and quality.

[@bgx3232]

WHAAAAAAAT'S GOOOOD NYYYYGGGAAAAAAHHHHH?!?!?!

[@tompossessed1729]

Toolazy Tomakeaname WHAT'S REALLY GOOD

[@Gamer4672]

Anything that's over 30 years old on television usually is

[@eatatjoes6751]

Also, I am 100% agreed with you on "Disney monopolizing everything is a worrisome future", because I honestly hate everything they've pumped out recently aside from Coco and the Last Jedi, which was O.K. but not groundbreaking. Not to mention, I hate the "subversion of an X is *ALL* it wants to be" shtick because it ends up being corny and dull (see: WIR 2: which tries to subvert the Disney Princess/villain mold by making the princess selfish and the film villain-less) on rewatches.

[@ThierryRocksTV]

The Last Jedi was crap

[@Wveth]

I really enjoyed The Last Jedi.

[@juliex7306]

Screw sleep this is more important, That last review of 2017.

[@putridmoldyman306]

"What happens if the car did start? Then there would be no horror" Christine: exists

[@huntercoleherr]

The thing that always bugged me about this episode, and I've never heard anyone else even acknowledge it, is that burning a huge plastic Christmas tree would create scorch marks on the ceiling and floor, and would release a horrible smell and copious amounts of toxic smoke. Like, they would know. It would be very obvious that a huge amount of plastic was burned. The smell would be unbearable. The house would be thick with acrid, oily toxic smoke. I hope someone got fired for that blunder.

[@Megastory4]

...i feel like the whole "Disney Owns Fox" thing could have been saved for it's own separate video... otherwise, informative review.

[@billybarnett9518]

Fox show review, kinda hard to ignore it.

[@carlbloke8797]

Billy Barnett agreed

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@billybarnett9518 "kinda hard". You mean *VERY* hard.

[@bridiemurphy7994]

@@ExtremeWreck Fox: How would you like it if I purchased *you*, rat boy? Huh! We should find out!

[@brianvaira486]

This was the first Simpsons episode that I hated when I was a kid. The Principal and the Pauper just confused me, but this episode just pissed me off.

[@robbiewalker2831]

Basically, this is a Simpsons version of Christmas with the Kranks before Christmas with the Kranks was a thing.

[@junglepythonpearl9069]

I really love the 90s Simpsons!

[@OptimusPhillip]

8:38 Unless you're in a killer car story. But otherwise, yeah.

[@AGenerousLove]

with disney backing them now, im hoping they ether put this cherished family to rest. Or lets roll the dice

[@APPictures9]

I read an article that said that Disney wants to cancel the show after season 30. They also said that all of the seasons might be coming to Hulu.

[@bunnyboyking5215]

Alberto Productions Huh good to know.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

a generous lover Or we can just have Deadpool kill the Simpsons.

[@bunnyboyking5215]

Tommy Deonauth's Archives THAT would be funny.

[@ReaperBlaze76]

Alberto Productions n

[@GiveJHugz]

Finally someone says it! Disney is buying everything. It's sad to see honestly. I'm getting a weird sense of just dread showering over me when I think of this and all the political shit happening... It makes me feel like this world is just going to shit and I'm not just saying that to exaggerate, it feels like the end.

[@destroyerblackdragon]

Well look at it this way. We might finally get a good fantastic 4 movie.

[@JeyJey88-9]

The world needs to be an total wasteland and even then it's not the complete end. We're gonna be around for much longer buddy

[@anarchimation1448]

And to think I wanted Disney to buy SEGA for quality control and to have a stake in gaming along side Microsoft and Sony...

[@paradoxzee6834]

The only problem is Disney say they wont publish games anymore they will just licence they ownership to other game developers. So Disney buying any gaming company sounds far fetch at least now

[@vertigo.frog2110]

You have nothing to lose but your chains, comrade. Eventually there will be a brighter dawn.

[@pheroego]

That Pokemon Diamond & Pearl music though!

[@pikapals41]

JayForrestShow Thats what I thought it was! Thaaaats why it sounded familiar!

[@NitroIndigo]

And Animal Crossing at the end!

[@alecrutz956]

the song at the end is an ice world theme from super mario galaxy 2

[@pikapals41]

alec rutz the song at the end is from pokemon i thought... idk maybe the Mr Enter gods can come clear this up for us :)

[@alecrutz956]

I know that song, its definitely the freezy flake galaxy theme from super mario galaxy 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJjFh62mbMSep8U

[@andykishore]

R.I.P. Alex Trebek who guest starred in this episode as himself.

[@planetaryiam954]

I think "Foster's goes to Europe" from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends is an example of an episode from a different show that tried to be subversive for no real reason. It was trying to subvert the perils of preparing to leave for a flight by having it end unhappily. I don't think they had a reason for it other than that it wanted to be different from the typical road trip story. "But why?" You may ask. So do I.

[@adampkalb]

(grumpily) Because they wanted to surprise us by turning Madam Foster into a devious thief. I mean, I can believe a sweet old lady like her having a wild irresponsible side, which she displayed in this episode and at the end of Better Off Ed, but this twist of having her steal the tickets consequence-free still came out of nowhere. November 20, 2019, 8:56pm

[@daddywumbo1676]

Godammit Mr Enter. If you waited only 2 more hours I couldve made a 3 Am Joke!

[@LairdeLampblack]

happy new years, mr. enter

[@UnsanitaryCondition]

Good video, but Enter, if you'll allow me a small nitpick, of course Disney buying everything out it's starting to seem like the Monopoly boardgame...because they're slowly working toward a literal monopoly. Where do you think the name of the game came from? I definitely agree that it seems scary and dangerous though. You're right on that.

[@misselbun]

My favorite episode was "Homer's Enemy". It was chilling to say the least.

[@AVeryNormalCat]

For the record, Disney does not own Fox News or Fox Sports now, so they still have competition on that front. 21st Century Fox retained ownership of those, and a few other parts of the company.

[@nemesis962074]

You should look into how Disney treats the city of Anaheim, having lived there its very clear who runs the show.

[@MarkCabaniss]

Having been to Anaheim for Equestria LA 2017, I know what you mean.

[@DeaconG1959]

Anaheim: Man, I can't take all that Disney screwing. Orlando: Hold my beer.

[@590488]

The people of Anaheim decided to live in an area the built around the success of disneyland

[@quintiniusverginix7827]

The town existed before Disneyland did.

[@590488]

Quintinius Verginix you're right the "town" did exist, but after Disney land opened it became a city

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

I was waiting for this since the beginning of the month! If you want to watch a great Simpsons Christmas special, simply view "Marge Be Not Proud"; it is as heart-warming as it is hilarious, and it shows a side of Bart that new episodes seem to simply ignore.

[@carlbloke8797]

Anyone else find it sad how Lisa is pretty much now the Brian Griffin of the show?

[@MikeChhem]

Uh oh hey 🅱️eter help I’m turning into Lisa Simpson again

[@Tkscz]

When it comes to multi-media telecommunications, Disney is actually in second place. Comcast is in first place. Time-Warner is in third place but still pretty close to Disney. The issue is TW doesn't want to stay in business and is trying to sell itself to AT&T (but the US government is keeping them from doing so).

[@blazeofglory4053]

Rewatching this recently, and... The "Unless you're trying to get your work in a modern art museum" line is absolutely glorious.

[@ffjreviews9029]

Is it a coincidence that MrEnter is talking about subversion in the same month that Last Jedi came out

[@zzz43344]

Well, how about THAT

[@mastern1825]

Take note, Ruin Johnson.

[@ffjreviews9029]

Master N Rian Johnson isn’t really the problem, it’s Kathleen Kennedy.

[@ShadowyKatz]

I have never finished a game of Monopoly, but I think the fun is who you play with.

[@PanzerMan332]

I've never seen a "bad" Simpsons episode. They're never good or bad, they're just...the Simpsons. That's why The Principal and the Pauper was fine for me. It was just another episode. I'd probably watch this episode and think "Huh, well, on to the next episode."

[@carlbloke8797]

well this was indeed a bad episode as well as the principle and the pauper

[@carlbloke8797]

2071Johnny ikr

[@MichaelBlaneWalker]

Panzer Man Yea. I have seen worse episodes of The Loud House when Rita intentionally commits crimes to get away from her kids. Why does anybody like this?! The Loud kids were rambunctious…even Lincoln, who would know better! Even Lori, who’s supposed to be the oldest and set a good example for her younger siblings. The Simpsons has good episodes because they tend to be more memorable and I grew up with The Simpsons, not The Loud House.

[@Sandlot1992]

even though Bart Simpson told the truth that no burglar stole they're christmas tree, it is revealed that the truth set him free!

[@PrincessofPower84]

The one thing that angers me about this episode is that the family got unjustly blamed for Bart's selfish crime in spite of just learning about it minutes earlier, so the town ends up hating all of them instead of just him. Fuck Bart and fuck that stupid town. Oh, also I love you playing the music from the Diddy Kong Racing snow level.

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

I just realized...if Bart acted like himself in "Bart vs Thanksgiving", Mr Enter thinks this would have been a better episode, because we wouldn't mind that Bart was getting strangled by half his family.

[@MikeHawko]

"What if Disney decides to go political" the prophetic words of a sperg

[@moneylover318]

Do an admirable Animation on the first Sideshow Bob episode or Itchy and Stratchy land or even WHO SHOT MR BURNS. but save a treehouse of horror for Halloween

[@AVeryNormalCat]

Mr. Enter has said that he tries to stay away from the obvious choices for Admirable Animation picks, so we probably won't see reviews for episodes that everyone praises. That's not to say that we won't see admirable animations on Simpsons episodes, but it likely won't be those.

[@moneylover318]

Some Cat maybe he could do an underappreciated treehouse of horror

[@carlbloke8797]

Some Cat and he did do an admirable animation review homer badman to be fair

[@Rubberman202]

It's kind of like what MovieBob said, regarding Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice using deconstruction tropes on both Batman and especially Superman, but with no real point or message behind them, as if the fact that this is different from everything else is enough to have people interested or invested.

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

I find it funny that Enter talking about Disney helping Star Wars plays over footage of The Last Jedi.

[@ezrastardust3124]

Vulpes Ailurus just my personal opinion but I loved that film and the rest of the sequel trilogy to boot

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

Ezra Stardust to its credit, it had foxboys.

[@yokesplooge2852]

"'Because it's different' isn't a good enough response" Exactly my thoughts on the new star wars trilogy. Why did the Loyal and fierce Han Solo break up with leia, Running away only to get impaled? Why did the hopeful and optimistic Luke Skywalker who Saved Vader, overcoming his anger and impatience that's followed Luke throughout the OT get thrown out the window when he pusses out to a random planet, doesn't face his mistakes even though billions of people died and his sister is risking her life? Just to show Luke and Han miserable and old. Gee thanks Disney, i'm not depressed now that my childhood hero's are a bunch of old cunt's that are a shadow of their former self's. It's like they think making the old character's assholes for the sake of making them assholes is a good idea.

[@abbbbbby129]

Yokesplooge dude spoilers!😲

[@year111]

They changed the characters for the sake of sjw crap.

[@princealigorna7468]

Do you feel that these "subversive" episodes are creators reading a "Deconstruction 101" book and completely missing the philosophical underpinnings of the Deconstructionist experiment? Which aren't so much to be subversive for the sake of it, but to take an existing work, break it apart, and then put it back together in a way that lays bare the internal contradictions and exposes the tropes so that you become opening to analyzing the work from different angles? They just see the part about taking a piece apart and then flipping it around and go, "Yeah, I'm smart. I can do that. It's different from how things normally go. This can only end well."

[@feraflauna3238]

+Prince Aligorna-Let's take a look at a movie like Memento (which is really good until the end for me, but that's another story. . .). It has an unconventional plot structure/pacing: the beginning is actually the end and vice versa. . .but it's actually coherent and well thought out. The pacing is strange but you get used to it eventually to where it's not really strange at all. It's just different. And it's not subversive just for the sake of being subversive, the odd structure is just a different way to tell a unique story. And it works, because Christopher Nolan is very meticulous and usually plans things out incredibly well. Now, let's look at every movie that has tried to rip off Memento in a cheap way and comes out awful, because they don't understand what made that movie work in the first place. For that matter, look at all those movies that shamelessly ape Dark Knight's "darkness" just for the sake of being dark without understanding, or caring what made that movie so good in the first place, and the darkness just for being dark really has robbed the joy out of things. Even look at how The Last Jedi thought it was so clever at "subverting" Star Wars and. . . well. . .look at how that turned out. So, deconstructing something just for the sake of it is not cute. It's not clever. And it's funny. It's just a pain. When you deconstruct something ie. take the building apart, you still have to put it back together in some way. You can't just leave lying on the floor in pieces like it mostly winds up turning out with these writers. I do find it amusing that The Simpsons, after beating their own story concepts to death for the last 14-21 years, thought it was so clever for taking apart a Christmas story. However, the episode is so mean and so spiteful. . .it is plain rancid.

[@dynostretch9215]

It's weird to know one company now owns Mickey Mouse, Darth Vader, Captain America and Homer Simpson... Kingdom Hearts 4 is going to be bizarre.

[@joelcrafter43]

The subversion of the finding out the world is worse off without them trope being subverted like that really only works as some kind of sketch like the one from Studio C, but even just thinking about it in a long running show with the main character as the focus is obvious to anyone that it can't work.

[@Eric-py8yy]

As I say everytime: "Just because it's different doesn't mean is good"