Why Expats Living in Thailand Leave

Can you guess why expats would move to Thailand and then move back home within 6 months? Watch this video so you are not one of them!
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[@MrTupeloFlash]

Listen, if you are living in Thailand & thinking of leaving to go back ro the UK ? Think twice, the UK is falling to pieces. The grass is NOT greener

[@martywize5909]

Gets worse every day mate ☹️

[@MrTupeloFlash]

@@martywize5909 - you are correct, Thailand is a blessing my friend 🙏🏻

[@danielpowell-ph5li]

I live in Berkshire and have a great life. I call bollocks.

[@dreammix9430]

The USA is falling apart too! which is why I'm leaving it and moving to thailand.

[@user-rc1kj6jt4o]

UK is a failed society..bankrupt government and everyone a debt slave

[@scotniver7180]

Thanks for the report. I just stopped in to find out why people are leaving. Been here since 93. Taught scuba, 10 years..did many visa runs. Etc. Retired now. Started a charity in Buriram 12 years ago, so I've been driving back And forth from Pattaya once per month. Bring bicycles toys supplies etc. Plus, training muay thai. All this gives me Something to do. I don't drink or go inside bars , so I had to be creative. Love my life here ; it was a good decision

[@BarnabyBarry]

Donated to Father Ray Foundation in Pattaya and meeting the kids was so cool!

[@jomontanee]

Great info!! Even I am Thai I gain a lot of useful insight from you.❤🙏

[@TheNarrowGate]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@markadler8968]

A major reason why people might be leaving the country in 2024 is the new tax regulations for full time residents, which is people staying over 180 days. As a full time resident you will have to file a return every year and provide proof that all of the money you bring into the country has been taxed. A huge hassle with possibly major financial impactions. I have watched several videos on this topic and all of them have a different interpretation of how it will be applied. I am waiting to see how this all plays out before I decide to move over there.

[@DreamofThailand19000]

I was born and raised in Thailand. I can see why people are concerned about this laws but nothing is permanent in Thailand. They are now talking about changing the laws about recreational marijuana!

[@OneJame]

This new law is exactly why I will only spend 180 days per year in Thailand maximum.

[@Colincarpenter2]

Don't take the word of ANY KZbinrs on thai tax law, if you think it applies to you, pay for a Thai tax expert, KZbinrs literally know nothing nor are they legally liable for the advice..

[@forlua9211]

As I understood, you will not be taxed if your income already taxed in the countries that Thailand has an agreement with.

[@markadler8968]

@@forlua9211 You will still have to get a tax number, provide all of the information they require, pay an accountant and file taxes. All of which were not required until this year. Who knows how they will enforce this. It might be nothing or it might be a huge hassle. Either way it is another hoop you will have to jump through in order to reside there full time on top of all of the other BS required to live there.

[@gotthesinglelife]

Looking to retire in Thailand and to me the main issue is keeping yourself busy or have hobbies because as seen from other expats the wrong lifestyle can cost you everything.

[@garrydye2394]

Ya, same for me. Been to the Philippines 13x and Thailand 4x in the last 5 years. Married to a Filipina. We are moving to the Philippines in about 6 months. The #1 thing I see with exapts are those who are on vacation...are having a great time...those who live there...usually appear miserable. Day to day life will be nothing like the 14 to 30 day vacation. If your the kind of person who sits in front of a TV 8 hours a day playing with the flicker....then sitting in small condo might be heaven. I run a large business and looking forward to retiring but man...doing nothing sounds extremely boring. I get bored in Phuket after 3 days. I live on the water in th FLorida...so water isn't that amazing to me. Worried.

[@JasonISF]

​@@garrydye2394have kids, there is never a dull moment anywhere in the world 😅

[@brianquigley6862]

i have been to Thailand 3X and love phuket but ur right you gotta have a hobby. I love the tennis scene and I love to run and walk a lot. Because the tennis scene is so developed I look forward to it so much. Without the tennis I wouldn't make the journey. I do want to live in thailand.

[@rinylangendoen3328]

Hi Tony, Thank you for sharing this video again. Great info as usual. You need to be openminded and adjust yourself to the culture and habits of a new country. Only then there is a good chance to be succesful in a new country.

[@DreamofThailand19000]

👍

[@stepchicken3238]

I've heard, it's not the heat that's the problem over there, but the HUMIDITY, that's killing! Maybe that's why so many ex-pats hang around in bars (turning into juicers) to get a bit of social life but, mostly to get the air conditioning. However, if you want to chat to the bar girls, it could get a bit depressing just having very limited conversations in broken English all the time, along with the frequent demand of, "Buy me a drink, buy me a drink,..."

[@robertgrey6101]

Some very sound advice especially on visas. If I may, I'd like to say research Thailand first, then the area that attracts you, cost of accommodation, location of apartments to required area, (size of apartments and costs of water and electricity). Nearby supermarkets and night markets for food etc. Finally do up a weekly budget and STICK to it. Blowing money is another reason people exit Thailand early.

[@JeremiahBrewer00]

Great video as usual! It was great to meet you at the mall and see you in action 🥁Keep it up my brother! We’ll meet again 🙏🏾

[@TheNarrowGate]

Yes, it was very nice to meet you!

[@zzdlover2005zz]

I go on a long vacation for 2 months in Thailand and return to the state. It works out fine. I appreciate the air and cool weather in the state.

[@CKology]

Great insights! 💟

[@TheNarrowGate]

Thank you!

[@garrydye2394]

Happy to see you getting the subs you deserve on this channel. I would say in my opinion the #1 reason that "many" people leave Thailand is "reality." They come to Thailand on "vacation" and enjoy Thailand on "vacation mode." They are spending money...like they are on vacation. Everything is fairly new...like they are on vacation. Its short time fun....becuse they are on vacation. Living in a place is NEVER the same as Vacationing in a place. Sometimes it can better....sometimes it can be worse. If you are coming to Thailand...drinking...loving the nightlife...paying for attention...and then go home and think to yourself, "Wow..that is heaven...I think I'll move there" than you are probably going to be seriously disappointed. For one...drinking gets very old for both your physical and mental health. Secondly, paying for attention is just that...paying young woman to act like you are gwapo and your jokes are funny. You will go broke trying to maintain this level of attention. But on the flip side...have a stable place to live and get your underwear cleaned is nice too. I would not come here...drink...party...and then go back and want to move here for the fun you had. It will not last and if you can for the fun and party girls only....and that runs its course...you have nothing left for why you are there. You need a reason beyond the party and younger females that will tell you that you look 20 years younger and they think your pop belly is sexy.

[@TheNarrowGate]

So true!!!

[@citrusfarmer]

Super interesting. The wife and I are moving to bangkok this summer to stay. We can't wait.

[@erijqudus1960]

Thank you. An eye opener.

[@jaitenmaini]

A very useful and informative vlog . Thanks for sharing quality content .Here's wishing you a fabulous sunday .Stay safe and blessed

[@TheNarrowGate]

Thank you very much! 🇹🇭😊

[@brianquigley6862]

Thx so much for all the info. I am 62 and do want to live there but my wife doesn't want to move so I will just visit a few months a year to play tennis, tennis and more tennis, lol. I love going to Lotus (banking and massage, can't beat the convenience) and the other malls near Phuket Town. The beaches are nice too. I stay in Bangkok a few days near BTS #5 and LOVE it. Tennis too, lol. I must confess as an American hearing all VISA issues makes me wonder what the heck is going on here in USA. It's the total opposite but thx for the heads up. I still love my wife so I guess I will just some wintering, lol. I will visit Hau Hin next trip. My Phuket friends say the traffic is getting worse and trust me it was already bad. I'm surprised that wasn't a main issue. Thx for the great video. I miss Phuket everyday. Nothing like a few hours of tennis, a walk/run, the beach and fresh watermelon!!!

[@richardwoodhouse8397]

Thailand says they want more tourists,, while making it increasingly harder to be one?

[@martypoll]

This video is not about tourists. It’s about expats coming here to live long term for years.

[@LePubPattaya]

With respect, Living here isn’t being a tourist.

[@JohnRamz-ww4sd]

Thailand doesn't want long term tourists. The 2-4 week high-spending tourist is the ideal tourist for Thailand. Thailand is clearly preparing itself to address/curtail the potential western influx into the Kingdom on a long term basis.

[@sahpraphaphorn6240]

​@@LePubPattaya True. It's much more worse.

[@fullbird3102]

Great information for those of us who are thinking about making the move. The VISA issue is one that never even crossed my mind.

[@christopherraley781]

This i why i ❤️ to visit Thailand 🇹🇭 and i dont Live in Thailand hope when i ret . Can 1- 3 months Dec - march in Thailand avoid cold winters in USA 🇺🇸 Mid Atlantic states always

[@peeptbgod7047]

I'd move right now if I could find work. It feels daunting trying to find remote work or even work in Thailand as an American.

[@martypoll]

For sure . . . visas for people under 50 are very limited. You can stay if you have a job with a work permit, are married to a Thai, or buy one of the few very expensive visas such a Thai Privilege or the LTR.

[@donald8354]

Mexico is lot closer and there’s parts of Mexico that are safe and not to high.

[@martywize5909]

Where would you recommend in Mexico?

[@mrxxx2599]

where is that are safe ? Thai is safer than Mexico their gangster won't kill you for some stupid shit

[@_Alfa.Bravo_]

English skills rank 101 on worldlist. Every Thai uses 8 plastik bags a day ... 220 Billion in the country per year. A lot of trash gets burned by the roadside. Traffic, alcohol and amphetamin consumption is insane.

[@paulh7798]

You have be two people. One person cannot speak so much bullshit at one time. 🤦‍♂️

[@BigDogDamon]

@@paulh7798exactly 🤣🤣🤣

[@GMoney-eb5fy]

I have been to Thailand multiple times, one issue is the Language barrier. Going on 60 is a little too late to learn a new language.I would recommend that you have income to live on. The wages in Thailand are low compared to western Europe. The heat is also a factor, coming from Europe, I welcome the heat and sweat it out. :)

[@JeffCahill-tp8ik]

It's not too late to do anything! I'm 62 and just started learning Thai. It's actually coming surprisingly easy, but that's probably from learning Chinese the last few years. Just understand that it will be super slow in the beginning and you may feel like an idiot, but it's slowly building. Trust the process, put in the work, and it will come. Also, get a Thai girlfriend that doesn't speak English :). In China they call that a "long hair dictionary". I'm with you on the heat, brother. I spent enough cold days in Canada that I love the heat. Bring it on!

[@paulh7798]

Not too late by any measure.

[@gif24gt60]

If u learned a language as a baby, u can learn a language as an adult.

[@addamr2052]

At sixty years old that's when you should be learning a new language . It will help you keep the brain cells active otherwise brain fog will set in .

[@destinationsunknowntheroadsles]

No excuse for not learning Thai. Expats #1 reason they don,t last long and are miserable is not willing to adapt.

[@Techfanatic73]

Great video. I can't wait to get there

[@TheNarrowGate]

Thank you 🙏

[@ki-sikil-lil-la-ke2429]

In regards to the education visa, could you do say 3 years of language, then switch over to cooking, then switch over to Muay Thai, just keep switching to other allowed educational things?

[@TheNarrowGate]

Not sure, never heard of anyone doing that.

[@Truthseeker371]

Most of condominiums and decently priced accommodation have air-conditioners. Shopping malls are well air-conditioned. Thailand is tropical, so it's hot and humid. If cooler weather is your choice, it's better to be in Europe. The cost of living is higher and people are miserable, though.

[@bigwaidave4865]

Anyone who is home sick and ready to leave after one or two months have no business being here or anywhere else other than their sofa.

[@user-rp9ib6bh3l]

Leaving Thailand, after many years, because I definitely have enough of Thai Imigration,permanently making everything more difficult. Going to Cambodia, Getting a one year retirement visa without ANY request at all ! So why bothering with Thai authorities ?

[@jomontanee]

Good luck in Cambodia. You need it A LOT there. 💖

[@lastyle7363]

you don't need a retirement visa, $35 for a business visa that can be extented to a year. $500

[@user-rp9ib6bh3l]

@@lastyle7363 ...and who said that i wanna still work...? Lol

[@tk4c415]

those that leave after a month or 2 are called tourists

[@TheNarrowGate]

😂

[@jnsa9454]

Good topic Tony 👍🏽

[@stevejepson9963]

I returned to Canada 1n 2918 after 81/2 years. I left to be care giver for my mother, now 94, as other family members were proving themselves to be deadbeats. Would I go back? Possibly, lots has changed and some not for better. I sure would not stay in CM full time.

[@heavanstomergatroid9825]

I just go to SE Asia for four months during UK winter, works for me.

[@lynnbrooks2430]

At this point, I’m pretty sure I will be in Thailand by June. I’m aiming to spend three months to see if I can settle in the southern part. Probably it would be beneficial to me to have an agent, I was wondering if you’d know, roughly what it would cost me to have their Assistancs with obtaining a retiree Visa?

[@TheNarrowGate]

I would ask these people facebook.com/assist.thai

[@ruizphd]

The visa situation sucks

[@gma-68]

Visa issues suck in most countries. Try getting one for Australia, not for the faint hearted and if you’re older, probably no chance.

[@Soi6mafia543]

Most other S.E . Asian countries are much easier. W.T.F. wants to go to Australia, Authoritarian Wasteland ​@@gma-68

[@Michaelkrsk]

I am 33 years old, and I want live in Thailand

[@binyam11]

U better buy that elite visa or u will have 17 years of headache with the visa

[@jeff5001]

Why, specifically, do you want to live in Thailand? What experiences have you had there that attract you?

[@dreammix9430]

Ok. So selling everything you have and moving to another country or even another Province or state within your own country to meet some love interest that you've only chatted with online is the dumbest thing anyone can do, in my opinion. I've had two friends that have done that and it turned out to be a disaster for both of them.

[@darp007]

Tony I noticed you got "koh samui" finally😂

[@DreamofThailand19000]

Heat and air quality are my main issues in Thailand. Thanks 👍

[@ricochete5875]

Do costal cities have better air quality?

[@DreamofThailand19000]

@@ricochete5875 Some of them do. But islands in the south are the best place to be during smoky season.

[@TheNarrowGate]

No problem 👍

[@TheNarrowGate]

Some but Islands are better.

[@antoonhermans8953]

Jeezzz , thats a lot of hassle just to live in another country , the thai only like farang for one reason : MONEY , but hey whats new , every you go its always about the money , nobody cares about you as a person , so in that respect it does not matter where you live on this planet so i rather stay in Holland at least overhere we still have things like social security payment ect . , so when you have no job or get sick you still are able to pay the bills and stay alive ( for whatever that is worth : ) . Reality check .

[@user-mk2lx7ys8r]

Hey Tony quick question, is it overkill having two Thai bank accounts, one for the required 930,000 Baht and the other for day-to-day living? Do you recommend using an american credit card for daily use. Also is it helpful to have a Thai debit or Thai visa card?...Keep up the good work and your input is truly appreciated. 🙏

[@TheNarrowGate]

Just so you know, there are other ways to get a retirement visa that does not require you to have that money deposited in a Thai bank account. If you were interested in that, I would suggest contacting a visa service agency for the details. We use our Thai debit card and we do not have a Thai credit card. We use our credit card from the US occasionally.

[@pizza1821]

These are indeed the reasons people leave after a couple months! Another topic - I have noticed the #1 most common reason expats leave after many years living in Thailand is that they never learned how to speak Thai, and never made it outside the narrow confines of expat life. They look to recreate their comforts back home while enjoying a much cheaper living cost, rather than ever taking a genuine interest in Thailand or Thai culture. Ultimately they remain a completely ignorant fool in a foreign land and are treated as such, and slowly but surely develop a bitter resentment for Thailand which ends up in them going back home. These are the foreigners complaining about everything: Thai food, messy infrastructure, two-faced Thai people only out for their wallet, etc etc. I would say they make up the overwhelming majority of disgruntled expats who have been here for many years.

[@user-mk2lx7ys8r]

Thanks Tony.

[@TheNarrowGate]

Thank you for watching! 🙏🏻🇹🇭😊

[@jackyback3975]

Thailand is not good option anymore. As you mention too many obstacle with visa and regulation. You never gone feel home or you can make Thailand as home

[@JohnRamz-ww4sd]

@jackyback3975, Most every western country on earth has making their expats feel exactly what/how you described. 🤣

[@roythousand13]

Thailand will never be your home because you are NOT Thai! You aren't even married to a Thai!

[@amornrathbaron874]

Regarding Family - I am from Canada and ALL Family have ‘Line’ or ‘Messenger’ to Keep in touch with all. At home, because of age, many Friends have Passed Away. Pollution is a huge factor during Sugar Field Cane. Wayne M. 🇨🇦

[@Hello_Vuitton]

Any recommendations for 8 people to stay in Bangkok cause we just brought tickets to Thailand from July to August but now we need an affordable place to stay and eat street foods

[@TheNarrowGate]

Not sure in Bangkok. I live 10 hours North of Bangkok.

[@thailandsnippets901]

You are coming in the WET season. Plenty of street food everywhere, especially in Chinatown

[@scotteemielchen4785]

If you got a vol bank account then Thailand is your destination but on the contrary when your bank account is minimal it's an unpleasant experience as work for foreigners is a challenging issue.

[@OzScalemodeling]

May I ask what visa service you use in Chiang Mai? Thx

[@TheNarrowGate]

Assist Thai Visa in Chiang Mai

[@OzScalemodeling]

@@TheNarrowGate Thank you.

[@wazalapa82]

On an ED visa can you go away for say a month to Samui when the burning is peak

[@TheNarrowGate]

Well you may be able to do online.

[@sagepirotess6312]

Been to Thailand once, was bored off my butt. Worst three countries i ever been to. Saying that Vietnam is right next door, and its an awesome country.

[@TheNarrowGate]

Ok 👍

[@BradSabako]

Name 3 things that are substantially better in vietnam?

[@sagepirotess6312]

@@BradSabako easy, could name many more, but 1. Weather. It's not mega hot or humid. 2 friendly people, not just people that will be friends with you for cash only. 3. Food, 4. Women. 5. Work and lay is higher in vn than Thailand. Oh... and vn didn't lock down at covid like Thailand did.

[@Soi6mafia543]

"Another Side"? Bwahaha, you mean, Dude finds out these Thai Snatches be cray cray.

[@rickmccann4016]

Another reason expats leave, like me, is because I get tired of getting sick all the time.

[@jareds5249]

Stomach sick?

[@rickmccann4016]

Hard to explain, but definitely dtomach issues involved. Some days I felt like I was going to pass out, dizzy, weak but not coughing or sneezing or being sick in the classic sense. As soon as I get back to the west its gone and a week after I get back to thailand it starts again.

[@rickmccann4016]

May sound odd but if I was in a high radiation zone this is how I would think I would feel because it is so strange and I've never met anyone with the same situation.

[@jareds5249]

Not fun. Maybe it's an allergy to the local flora, pollution, or water that affects you on a molecular level.@@rickmccann4016

[@ValieBallard]

@rick after months in thailand with similar symptoms I figured out I’m allergic to msg. Stomach issues, extreme weakness/tiredness, low blood sugar, body flu… after sticking to fast food and high-end Thai restaurants I felt much better! I became very careful to ask about msg and still am after months of feeling like I had a metabolic disease!

[@philliproberts7294]

The extremely hot weather and the money's running out

[@orawanjan3442]

visa long term? ask the lawyer / he will solve your problem. because here is too hot +high humidity plus carbonmonoxide on streets. living in thailand ....you have to hv a house with lots of plants + waterfall + fogy misty machine plus swimming pool then it will be best in the world.

[@samanthas6073]

What is the bug situation like in Thailand? Specifically spiders? Are there many? Are they huge? 😭😭😭 It might sound insignificant to some but that is a huge factor for me.

[@TheNarrowGate]

We don't see many spiders, the key is making sure you have a good pest control service for your house. They do have the huntsman spider which are quite large, but I've only seen them a handful of times since we've lived here. I think you would be fine.😊🇹🇭

[@BeIntrigued]

Insurance is not required for a retirement visa, and being seventy years old, no one will want to insure you, unless it's very costly??

[@paulh7798]

You will be required to have health insurance if you want use a retirement visa.

[@BeIntrigued]

What I’ve heard on numerous occasions if you apply for your visa inside Thailand you would not need to get it insurance and if they would not insure you, you could self insure, I guess that has all changed recently??

[@martypoll]

@@paulh7798You do not need health insurance if you are here extending a nonimmigrant O visa. The health insurance requirement is required for a few other visas like the OA, LTR, and I think the OX.

[@gecko2307]

If u wanna relocate to Thailand under 50 u need to have money or income from your home country... then visa option is easy: elite visa If u don't like the hear, stay in your cold home country , easy.. lol.. I myself love the warm weather, rather the cold European one!!

[@TC.....]

I receive 100% VA disability rating and get about $4000/month. I want to retire in Thailand but someone told me that I would lose that benefit if I move out of USA. I'm having a hard time financially in the USA I wish I can go to Thailand but I can't!

[@selaconte]

Make your appointments with your VA Doctor every 6 months. Remember to reroute your Mail to a Family Member in US or Colonies like Puerto Rico, Marshall Islands or Virgin Islands. Try Thailand that for 6 months and make a Video Chat with your VA Doctor or fly every 6 months to US

[@terryhunter3873]

This is erroneous info. I lived overseas and had no issues. Look up the issue yourself and stop listening to “someone”.

[@TC.....]

@terryhunter3873 I don't think it's erroneous. I have a friend who's a VSO. He has been handling my benefits and financial affairs and I pay him a little stipend monthly. I would think he knows a little more than you.

[@scottgeen3062]

T.c. check out Thailand cheap place to retire good fun down south lots of beaches but its cheaper up north Thailand from Scott new Zealand

[@howardhuckleberry2098]

Not a Issue, VA deposits to my Thai bank monthly, get a better VSO!

[@ericmo9669]

What are the months the air quality are worst?

[@TheNarrowGate]

March and April

[@TC.....]

Jan-Dec

[@_Alfa.Bravo_]

Burning season Feb - May . Bangkok has smog right now P.M 2.5 is 120 ... WHO recomments 5 microgram per m³

[@harleydavis3814]

Jan. to April

[@treal9988]

Naw that first one ain’t it lol I’m going there to retire at 40 and make a family

[@denisehall5145]

I thought that you did not need health insurance for a retirement visa now?

[@TheNarrowGate]

You may have missed it. I typed a note on the screen at 2:18 that clarifies.

[@ShoelessNomadThailand]

if you get a non O. Before you leave your country.

[@_Alfa.Bravo_]

... for the nonretirement O-A visa healthinsurance is mandatory

[@ShoelessNomadThailand]

@@_Alfa.Bravo_ If you apply via the Thai Embassy in your country for a Non-O the insurance is not required.

[@gordonduncan8892]

Just do not get a Non-O in your home country. Get a Tourist visa and when you come here let an Agent get your retirement visa sorted for the next 15 months.

[@BobGoodi]

Just pay tha munny and all will come to light. 🤩

[@selaconte]

Visa? No Problem take a boat 5 Minutes to Myanmar and comeback the same day with your stamps...lol... Every 45 days repeat the same😂😂😂😂

[@jnsa9454]

@selaconte tell me more about this boat trip 🛶 visa run?

[@_Alfa.Bravo_]

... no longtime solution as only 3 re-entries are allowed in Thailand

[@selaconte]

@@jnsa9454 like Alfa Bravo👍 said only 3 times are allowed...I guess the best way for long stay is the Teacher VISA or Marriage VISA

[@ricochete5875]

​@@_Alfa.Bravo_word.

[@paulh7798]

@@_Alfa.Bravo_Wow, you’re really good at talking shit aren’t you? 🙄