"You Can't Depend On Women In Rap Beef" | Did Drake's Core Fans Fail Him Against Kendrick Lamar?

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@ucheejeagwu1962
@ucheejeagwu1962 28 күн бұрын
Or... You cannot alienate your fanbase, mainly women, then be shocked when they don't support you.
@colormecrazy9327
@colormecrazy9327 28 күн бұрын
I’ve been a Kendrick fan since 11 grade section 80, was my first introduction of him . Never left since.
@thabangmatsepe863
@thabangmatsepe863 27 күн бұрын
11th grade as well
@LittleSpoonLonzo
@LittleSpoonLonzo 27 күн бұрын
I was in college when section 80 dropped. I’m a dedicated female Kendrick fan.
@BluEx22329
@BluEx22329 28 күн бұрын
Male drake fans goin through it
@DSuelo
@DSuelo 28 күн бұрын
A very small percentage of people are thinking about this on the level you're thinking about it.
@stephenlynn98
@stephenlynn98 28 күн бұрын
For sure. Not everyone is doing a deep dive on this. Kendrick and Drake are very very different artists that just so happen to play the same sport.
@funkyfreshkid08
@funkyfreshkid08 28 күн бұрын
It all goes back to Savior. Kendrick made you think about. Cole made you feel empowered. What did drake make you do?
@Brownbell
@Brownbell 28 күн бұрын
Bro this comment blew my mind you really cooked just now😂😂 because come too think of it Kendrick specifically left out drake in savior cus wat did drake really make us do ? Especially as of late🤔😨
@funkyfreshkid08
@funkyfreshkid08 28 күн бұрын
@@Brownbell ong man. Made you get bitches? That's the only thing I can think of. There's nothing wrong with that I guess but everybody he named had some substantive value.
@NoDiddyDidntDoitOrDiddy
@NoDiddyDidntDoitOrDiddy 28 күн бұрын
Drake only makes people shake their ass, that's it.
@humblebragger500
@humblebragger500 28 күн бұрын
Drake tours so much because he has too thay 360 deal is serious he needs to serve his master
@Will-IsOnYoutube
@Will-IsOnYoutube 28 күн бұрын
This is a conversation I don't see many people having... the idea of Drake fans having to ask themselves what about Drake they are actually in support of... but I believe this will play out in how people treat the music going forward It will be interesting to see
@micahjohnson138
@micahjohnson138 28 күн бұрын
Drake fan are tiktok women and Kendrick got real hip hop fan the tiktok women will switch up on him
@SkinnyHardawayESQ
@SkinnyHardawayESQ 28 күн бұрын
Toronto has no sound because they pull from whatever is hot... Kendrick can do an "LA" flow, what would Drake do that's "Toronto sound"? Nothing.
@zairethinker
@zairethinker 27 күн бұрын
Wrong the producers like boi1da and 40 created a sound
@SkinnyHardawayESQ
@SkinnyHardawayESQ 27 күн бұрын
@@zairethinker in the 90s Toronto rappers tried to sound like NY, now trying to sound like the South, UK, & SA. Toronto has no sound, bruh.
@zairethinker
@zairethinker 27 күн бұрын
@@SkinnyHardawayESQ the sound ovo created is the toronto sound, and yall copied it. we dont do any sound from the UK you must be confused
@SkinnyHardawayESQ
@SkinnyHardawayESQ 27 күн бұрын
@@zairethinker ok, bruh....🤣🤣🤣
@PardonMyPresence
@PardonMyPresence 28 күн бұрын
This a crazy title especially if you're cognizant enough to understand all of the slights, digs, and condescending lyrics he's had for women over his career. Drake is misogyny wrapped in a bowtie and light eyes backed by unlimited marketing dollars. Wake up
@prezidentjeff
@prezidentjeff 28 күн бұрын
This was an enjoyable convo to listen to - level headed, Savon showing he could look at this whole thing objectively, Alex doing the same, Reg being Reg - good shit guys
@robthegod9062
@robthegod9062 28 күн бұрын
This was a war of art/culture vs fame/industry. Dot is of the people. Mans is a guest period.
@aferg76
@aferg76 28 күн бұрын
Women are going to follow the champion/winner. I see women (all races) on tic toc talking about how fine Kendrick is and how they want a short king. Women are with Kendrick now.
@nutsallinyomouf
@nutsallinyomouf 28 күн бұрын
Women are fickle and will always run with the winner
@Probblems
@Probblems 28 күн бұрын
This is a dope deep dive. I would’ve never thought about any of this.
@Angel4298G
@Angel4298G 28 күн бұрын
Exactly, Drake doesn’t have his own rap sound and doesn’t represent anything
@humblebragger500
@humblebragger500 28 күн бұрын
Also the Toronto sound like a RNB sound so that has no place in hiphop especially in a rap battle
@patrickg3514
@patrickg3514 28 күн бұрын
Toronto has a long history of hiphop
@humblebragger500
@humblebragger500 28 күн бұрын
@@patrickg3514 what does that sound like?
@zairethinker
@zairethinker 27 күн бұрын
@@humblebragger500 Boi1da, T Minus, MR attic and 40 created the sound
@kentrelmorrow2429
@kentrelmorrow2429 28 күн бұрын
Most women don’t care about rap beef, not all but a lot don’t.
@jameskent8165
@jameskent8165 28 күн бұрын
You right they definitely don’t pay attention to gossip or accusations either… oh right
@RysinGgee
@RysinGgee 28 күн бұрын
Mal wanted Cole 2 jump Kendrick so bad😂😂😂
@everyotherbar65
@everyotherbar65 28 күн бұрын
I was trying to explain this exact concept to somebody. That’s why this approach was so effective.
@nutsallinyomouf
@nutsallinyomouf 28 күн бұрын
This is an important discussion and I love his take on Drake. I do disagree with his take on Cole though, Cole’s base is College kids but it overlaps with Kendrick’s base because they represent the same thing.
@adesiwoniku5514
@adesiwoniku5514 27 күн бұрын
Women like drake women respect Kendrick big difference.
@Obaol7
@Obaol7 28 күн бұрын
Alex...Goddamn bruh - you so thorough for repping Kardinal Offishall.....truly the FIRST rapper from the Dot to make it mainstream....down to the patoiis! He grew up with my uncle in the city and they'er still friends to this day>I'm gonna make sure he sees this. - he's always blown away when the younger gen recognizes his work
@johngleason1776
@johngleason1776 18 күн бұрын
If Drake had been loyal to his female fans for the last 5 years this feud would have gone way differently. His last album was called For All The Dogs.
@MrOhioPlayer
@MrOhioPlayer 28 күн бұрын
The wildest thing is if we take Drakes name out of this, would content creators have this much material, would future, metro, ross and Dot be doing the numbers theyre doing right now?!?! I found out more people hate Drake than love Kdot. Im seeing more people Scream A Minor than we going to be alright. Not Like Us is performing better than any song on Mr Moral and the Big Steppers.
@melodyrobbins
@melodyrobbins 27 күн бұрын
I appreciate Savon da Don's objectivity. Alex's love of music, & Regi's Pov. Good topic guys. Shout-out to Kardinal Official & Choclair. Drake's sound is everyone's sound who's poppin & it's worked for him... Until now. Maybe
@deeeznts562bitch
@deeeznts562bitch 3 күн бұрын
Savon the duh
@Plutosmoon660
@Plutosmoon660 11 күн бұрын
Drakes fan base is similar to new York rap artist
@macofda2026
@macofda2026 28 күн бұрын
Yall drop the ball with the bias in the beginning of the beef, watch you will not recover because it was about culture vs consumers
@megdee7353
@megdee7353 28 күн бұрын
New to this podcast, it’s cool I guess? I think I like Savon better on the Therapy pod he has tho?
@ThousandairesClub
@ThousandairesClub 28 күн бұрын
*I don't think Drake is done at all and I don't think this beef is over 🕵 if Drake does an Atlanta album with all Atlanta artists right now, that shit gonna do numbers and its gonna be littered with K Dot jabs* 😂
@zairethinker
@zairethinker 27 күн бұрын
but it would prove Kendricks point
@tyronebettersofficial
@tyronebettersofficial 26 күн бұрын
All he had to do was rap. He kept tryna make a bop. He fell to the allegations. If he would have got in his lyrical bag, he for sure had a chance. Im talking So far gone, Time Stamp Rap.
@BluEx22329
@BluEx22329 28 күн бұрын
Lol
@Abdullah-vg1uc
@Abdullah-vg1uc 28 күн бұрын
It's not that drakes core base failed him. Both drake and Kendrick have huge fanbases but both Kendrick and drake do not have a huge amount of haters. Drakes the one that has way too many haters while Kendrick has none outside of drake fans
@micahjohnson138
@micahjohnson138 28 күн бұрын
Cap he got hater because he got destroyed everyone was glazing him when he destroyed meek mil
@Abdullah-vg1uc
@Abdullah-vg1uc 28 күн бұрын
@@micahjohnson138 that was a long time ago . Now a lot if people hate hit him like the kanye and future fans
@r.johnson1170
@r.johnson1170 27 күн бұрын
I'm a Cole fan and am the #1 Kendrick hater.
@robthegod9062
@robthegod9062 28 күн бұрын
99% of ya fans wear high heels. Can I bus
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