Dust Collection for Newbies: Introduction to Dust Collection

[@raid7866able]

You probably won't see this since it's an old video, but I will leave this little nugget anyway. You should look into dwv pvc fittings. Dwv, stands for drain, waste, and vent. These are considerably cheaper plus they have sweep 90s and y's. These will allow less restrictive airflow. Also look for cellular core dwv pvc pipe. It's not only cheaper, but much lighter and easier to cut.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! And yes (obviously) I did see your comment even though it's on an old video. 😄

[@ballansmithphoto]

Neither of you will probably see this since it’s an older comment and even older video but I’m stealing this advice

[@raid7866able]

Glad to help!

[@_zhawkeye_9808]

...none of you will probably see this because...ummm...well, you know the drill...😉 Glad I ran across this as there's a lot of good info...thanks guys!!! Matt

[@chrischaralambous286]

Fantastic idea. Thanks for uploading. Great video. 👌👍

[@greggray8034]

The first video that didnt try to make dust collecting sound like rocket science. Simple and easy to understand for a newbie like me

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄

[@robk1310]

I used to work for Oneida Air systems. All their products are first rate, and American Made in Syracuse, NY. I recommend running grounding wires around/along all your PVC, connecting to the metal in your flex hoses, and run to a ground in the floor, so as to prevent static buildup and getting shocked (not lethal, but annoying all the same) from your pipes.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the comment!

[@jwelstad4032]

I'm impressed with your depth of detail that's exactly what beginners need. It's one thing to perform a task and another to be able to effectively teach others. You are a true teacher. I appreciate the humble approach. As a 6th generation master woodcrafter, I couldnt have done a better job

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Wow, thanks for that! It means a lot, especially coming from someone with so much experience. I really appreciate it. 😄

[@SuperLPollock]

Great video. You cover the basics and don’t get hung up in perfection. Your style makes it enjoyable to watch. Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad I could help!

[@pacbehavior]

Thank you so much for not irritating the crap out of me by rambling on about non related crap! Love watching and learning from someone that stays focused on the subject.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thank you, and I feel the exact same way about videos. GET TO THE POINT!!! 😛I don't always succeed, but I try. Thanks for noticing.

[@mervfriberg5020]

amen!!!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@mervfriberg5020 😄

[@DanielDeArco]

You and Matthias Wandel are the type of woodworkers that we all need :). Practical, honest, problem-solving, and not too caught up with high-end equipment or sponsors. Subscribed!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Wow! That's one of the best compliments I've ever received. To put me in the same category as Matthias, it's just... wow. Thanks doesn't seem like an expressive enough word, but it's all I've got, so thanks! (Needless to say, Matthias is one of my heroes. My favorite KZbinr, by far.) And may I just say, you're an awesome photographer! Again, another word that hardly describes what I'm feeling. If you're ever down near the Brea Mall, I'd love to pick your brain.

[@PRESA25]

I’m not sure I agree with this entire statement. The part about high end equipment and sponsors. First of all these you tubers make these videos for people like us. If they can get some money back for their hard work and time I am 100% on board. This video we are watching has links to buy equipment off amazon so they may make a small profit. Again i love this idea and use it often to buy stuff I need while giving back to these youtubers. I believe the money they get from view on youtube is nominal so why not get a sponsor or add amazon links? If woodworkers like these can make some money or better yet a living that also benefits us! It will attract more woodworkers and skilled people that may not have been interested in sharing their skills with us. As far as what type of equipment be it budget or high end I see no reason to even bring this up. If a person likes and can afford high end equipment that they prefer then hell yeah go to town. It’s not the equipment that they are using that we are watching for it is the skill that we may hope to replicate ourselves. Just my 2 cents. I do agree great video and content. Rant officially over :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@PRESA25 I can't speak for Daniel, but here's my feelings on the subject. If you get to rant, so do I. 😛 (Although this really isn't a rant.) I enjoy watching videos where people use high-end equipment. I find them entertaining, and who doesn't like to dream? And I obviously agree that if a creator can make money, then that's a good thing. Strike that - it's a great thing! 😛 On the other hand, when creators build things using specialised equipment that I don't have and likely will never have, then the video becomes entertainment only. So while I'll be entertained, it's not real useful. So from an educational standpoint, I'd rather watch videos where people do things that are actually relevant to me and my situation, than videos that solve things in ways I can't afford. Mind you, I'll watch both, but the former are more helpful. Non-rant officially over. 😄

[@rimrock1000]

I agree 100% especially as a teacher.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@rimrock1000 On behalf of ungrateful students everywhere, thank you for your service. 😄I didn't appreciate many teachers when I was growing up. I sure do now!

[@mellymel1100]

I appreciate how simple the explanation is. I was watching a couple other videos and there were too many words I didn't know, so I couldn't understand. Relatively new to woodworking...thank you :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! That was exactly why I made this video in the first place. And actually, that's the reason I started this channel - lots of KZbinrs forget that beginners don't know all the things they do.

[@Booruvcheek]

I've got a pretty extensive dust collection under my couch.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

LOL. Those are dust bunnies. Or dare I say it? They're dust rabbets. 😛

[@6980869]

Ba-dum pssssss!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@6980869 😂

[@jamesmccarter1737]

Booruvcheek Love your comment

[@frankhorvath817]

You can easily expand your system to under all the beds, and don't forget under the refrigerator.

[@craiousconnor4730]

You're a gentleman. It's wonderful to watch the 'normal budget' guy who's got a great demeanour, enthusiasm and good delivery process for info. Makes it feel obtainable as when I watch some of the 'sponsored' vids or cash no object vids (which are still very informative and good to watch) it makes it feel a bit downhearted especially when you see a garage full of dewalt or festool kit! I think my kit adds up to the price of a festool sander but I still make some good items. Cheers fella.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and LOL. Yeah, anytime I see those green tools, I know we're talking bucks. But heck, people still make stuff using hand tools, so at least we don't have to do that, right? :)

[@Markomyt1]

@gsweater Takes one to know one!

[@MrPhins]

As a new woodworker whose run into the sawdust issue after purchasing several power saws, I immediately turned to YT for dust collection info. Tons of videos about diy cyclones and complicated builds. Not one explained the rationale and step by step thought process. Until yours. I now completely understand how all these elements work together. I can't thank you enough.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome - I'm so glad I helped! You explained perfectly why I started this channel. Thanks!

[@RonAday]

Newbie Dan, just wanted to let you know 2 years on people are still watching, and liking, this video. Also I wanted to add that I really enjoy you videos. You have an excellent screen presence and sense of humor. Keep it up! :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! It's kind of funny - I saw a need for something like this, and I managed to fill it. And still, after all this time, nobody's really made a similarly basic video. Sometimes people just need basic information to start the journey! 😄

[@scottmaschino1927]

Great video, loaded with info, delivered in a very clear way. One recommendation. On your cyclone, you have it mounted on a bucket lid, making it a bit of a pain to open. On mine, I cut 2 circles if 1/2" plywood on my bandsaw. One a bit larger than the bucket opening, one smaller, leaving about a 1/2" all the way around. Glue them together and cut out drill a centered hole that matches the opening of your cyclone base. Mount the cyclone to the board. Around the outside of the smaller circle apply a strip of dense one side sticky foam weather strip. All it has to do is sit on the bucket, no clamp needed. The vacuum will pull it down and make a tight seal on the bucket. Even with a dust gate open I can pick up the bucket and all buy lifting the cyclone and it doesn't loose the seal. Shut it off, move the cyclone assembly and you can easily dump the bucket. It doesn't take long to make, but it saves a lot of aggravation dealing with a typical bucket lid.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the kind words, and also for the info on how you handled the lid situation. 😄For me, the $3 lid opener I have (amzn.to/2CcX3UU) makes it really easy to get the lid off, so I think I'll stick with that. But I see the appeal of your solution, definitely!

[@stevegem4155]

I use a chop saw to cut PVC all the time go slow ,perfect cuts, nice and square ,very quick

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! 😄

[@symcardnel1741]

I've had PVC explode on both table and chop saws. Scary for sure and luckily no collateral damage resulted. Being lazy, and typically not needing perfection, I use a sawzall.

[@PatrickScott9192]

I use a piece of long string and rub it back and forth quickly along the pvc. Creates enough friction to melt through and makes a clean cut fairly quickly. FYI

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@symcardnel1741 😄

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@PatrickScott9192 I've tried this, and it does indeed work. Thanks for sharing!

[@jumpinghoops]

What a terrific teacher; I have set through a million instructional videos and I have to say that this source blows all of them away. Very succinct yet full of valuable content!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks - what a wonderful thing to say! 😄

[@itsthatepic919]

It's been 3 years and he's still replying. Legend

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

As long as I can, I'll keep replying. Thanks for noticing! 😄

[@itsthatepic919]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker all good. Thanks for all the tips! I am going to follow your dust collection system idea for my workshop

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@itsthatepic919 Thanks! There's a dust cyclone that's better than the Dust Deputy - cheaper and better airflow. amzn.to/3sweTvK. I'm planning on doing a video on it sometime soon, unless my plans change.

[@63Ducati1]

This is a great video. The only caveat is the use of corrugated/flex hose in places that you don't need, e.g. from the vacuum to the cyclone and from the cyclone to the 2" plastic pipe. Flex hose creates significant pressure drop. Even short sections. Flex hose bends are HUGE pressure drops. You made a stand for the vacuum and the cyclone, why not use 2" plastic with long radius elbows. Then in places where you need a tee, use 45° Tees, called Wye Sockets? Also, on the drop to the floor, replace the tee and flex with a Wye Socket, a 45° elbow and 2" plastic tube? Cheaper and way better air flow. You will be able to tell the difference in air flow with you hand over the inlet of the device without any expensive air-flow measuring instruments. Metal or plastic has smooth walls that allow greatly better fluid flow. (Air is a fluid.) You already dry assemble, so disassembly of one connection to empty the bin or vacuum is not difficult. Bottom line: use flex hose only where absolutely necessary and make the lengths as short as possible to dramatically increase air flow Two more points, that make significantly less dramatic difference: #1) Make the blast gates with an extension on the other side of the air flow hole that goes all the way through the gate so there is no groove to catch dust when the gate is open. Further, waxing the slide reduces dust that does get caught and makes the gates slide easier. #2) Round over all edges as much as possible where air flows. Square edges cause much more air flow resistance. What I like about your videos is that they are clearly spoken. That makes a huge difference to us old guys with hearing loss. Well, I was able to attach a screen capture. I don't know if it will stick around when I comment, but if it does... Notice one Long-Radius elbow from the cyclone to the vacuum inlet with all plastic pipe connections.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the tips!

[@heidbumbee1689]

Gotta love an honest, no frills explanation. Thanks

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're welcome! 😄

[@uneasyMeat]

I'm about to setup a similar system and, as a suggestion, I was thinking that trying to place the vac as close to the center of all the tools would slightly improve efficiency. This way, I'll have my gates setup right after my vacuum hookup and this will also reduce the length of the vent runs to all my tools. The way yours is setup, the vac is at the far end of the system with the table saw and router at the opposite end. having the vac in the center of the action may help with suction. Seems like your system is working just fine though.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

I've thought about doing that before, but it wouldn't work well with my setup. But if you can do it, then by all means, go for it - it sounds like a good idea to me. 😄

[@coolboy7199]

Wow, you made the most informative video I've seen on dust collection. Thank you so much!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄

[@GeekMustHave]

It's videos like that show that some knowledge stays fresh even after over a year. I learned more in 15 minutes than it would have taken in a month of experimenting. Thank you for the excellent content. Keep broadcasting!!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, that's a great compliment! 😄

[@thebobloblawshow8832]

Reciprocating saw works great for cutting pvc. Used it a million times.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Thanks! 🙂

[@HomerKM1914]

I use my DeWalt 12" chop saw to cut pvc pipe. Used a high tooth blade (80 tooth) and cut slowly.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! 👍

[@9brian9871]

Just getting into serious woodworking...and the dust is overtaking my garage. I had a basic understanding about using the PVC...but I am loving the info about the cyclone. That is an awesome addition and a great timesaver. Thanks.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Glad I could help! 😄

[@brentn3822]

Good video, but one thing you didn't account for is the very fine particulate. The stuff that escapes from the dust deputy goes into the shopvac and the larger of the small particles drop into the shopvac, but the smallest of the small particles can potentially get sucked through the filter and shot out the exhaust port. It's worth inspecting what filter you have on the vac and if yours isn't rated for fine dust or hepa, then getting something that will hopefully stop those small particles from being blown around the shop. The ones that come standard with the vac just don't cut it for super fine dust.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

As I mentioned in my other reply, small dust particles are out of scope for this video.

[@gilbertlufc]

Great video. I've set up my own very small workshop on this basis and it works a treat.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad to know I helped. 😄

[@Eye_can_see_you]

Brilliant, very useful video! I greatly appreciate youtubers like yourself, who share their knowledge and offer tips and suggestions to help out like mined people.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂

[@trevormartin2459]

I use chop saw regularly to PVC pipe. Take your time to cut. Its quick & easy. Cuts are always square

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! 👍

[@miked8227]

Well done my man, I’m definitely going to reference this video when I get to this stage of my workshop. Thank you

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄

[@christianb9472]

Simple and down to earth for basic homeowner with woodworking equipment! Thanks for the input.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄

[@barryroberts6470]

I already have a 21/2" Dust Collection set up that works great, but i have to say this is one of the best examples of Dust Collection Set Up, that i have seen on KZbin and so you defo get a Thumbs Up from me, and a New Subscription. Barry (ENG)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! That means a lot to me!

[@charadremur333]

10.5 inch! Wow 20/2=10 1/2=.5

[@chrisgriffith1573]

I cut PVC using a "chop saw" and I find it works just fine, but be sure to have a firm clamp (I use a length of wood grooved with a ""V" at about 60 degrees to hold the round contour of the PVC I am working with) so that the piece does not turn when the blade bites into the soft plastic. As with all softer materials, going slower can make the job safer, let the blade gain a foothold into the material, then slowly nudge the blade down, remember that as you hit the centerline of the round pipe, there is maximum bite going against the wall of the pipe. This is the point you should cut the slowest, to allow the teeth of the blade to take more material away as the saw is lowered, this never giving the material time to "grab" the blade and throw itself out, or blowback into the path of the blade suddenly. Most "rip" blades are not good for cutting PVC, as they have a deeper tooth recess and the teeth are spaced further apart. I would recommend a "finish" blade, (80 tooth or higher for a 12" saw) this gives the blade far less probability of kicking out any material because it is constantly being taken out of the path of the blade before the saw is lowered into the weak material. Never cut softer or "weaker" materials using a dull blade.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the great tips!

[@doveoo5]

Oh! THANK YOU! I've already replied to comment asking about this.

[@SpicyTexan64]

Having a rip blade on a miter saw would also defeat the purpose of a miter saw

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

​@@SpicyTexan64 👍

[@drobb4207]

Well, I have a permanently damaged thumbnail from cutting pvc on my miter saw. I was plumbing an entire house and I plunged into a piece of 2" too fast like the speed I would use for wood trim. It exploded! I just forgot for a second it was pvc and not wood trim, my mind was elsewhere. Boom! A sawzall and Black & Decker workmate are perfect and always de-burr the inside and outside of pvc.

[@michaelwhitney4]

THANK YOU!! I have a single car garage shop and have searched for a small system for my woodworking area. This system is exactly what I need in my small space.Thanks Again,MikeW

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

You're quite welcome! 😄

[@FranksDIY]

Great job explaining things. I'm in the middle of doing my shop and you gave me some great ideas.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! If you come across anything I didn't cover, feel free to leave a comment.

[@wimboon8880]

Nice video, I cut pvc on my DeWALT 20 V mitersaw what has a 7 1/4 blade, important is to lower the blade slowly so you get a nice straight cut, the good thing is your pipe is supported on both sides against the fence. Thanks for sharing your video, love it

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and thanks for the tip! 😄

[@danmarshall5895]

I've done the same, but I usually use a hacksaw. It's just easy enough.

[@pastorlarrypotts8289]

I subscribed because you explain dust collection so clearly and less expensively.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and welcome aboard! 😄

[@lederse]

Miter saw works amazing to cut square pvc pipes!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Heh heh, "square PVC pipes" - didn't know they even sold those! 😂Just kidding - I know exactly what you meant. And thanks! 😄

[@lederse]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker Keep up the good work ! We are watching :) :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@lederse Thanks! 😄

[@VPOFIT]

A chop saw works great for PVC cutting... Nice video...

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and thanks for the info! 😄

[@bwaldrep11]

Totally agree. Use it all the time.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@bwaldrep11 👍

[@AXNJXN1]

I have to admit, I started this video with the notion that I was not going to learn anything… I was100% wrong! I really appreciate this video and thank you for what you’ve presented.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and I love it when that happens to me when I watch a video. You never know, right? 😄

[@jobo2063]

Hi, One of the best videos I have seen for a while, very well presented and explained.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Wow, thanks! That means a lot to me!

[@rayaldridge2506]

I Totally Agree.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Thanks!

[@TheJerryWatson]

Dude, I have to say that the cabinets in your shop look awesome! Good video. I have watched a few of your vids and you have it going on. Keep up the good work. Regards, Jerry

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, Jerry! I didn't build the cabinets, by the way. Our neighbors had a company make some for them, and we liked them so much we used the same company. They really did a great job.

[@basha9482]

Thanks for this great intro to dust collection. I have used my mitre saw to cut PVC pipe of various sizes. The most important factor in doing so safely is to secure the pipe so it does not move or twist as it is being cut. Next most important factor is to go slow. You get clean cuts. Make sure to wear face & eye protection and a bib.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! 👍

[@rpan5441]

U made me feel so good with the knowledge.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help! 😄

[@legitwinter55]

The Newbie Woodworker you made me feel good too.

[@scottmc2626]

Tip for cutting PVC with a hand saw if you want the cut to be square: Tighten a steel band cable clamp around the PVC tube where you need the cut to be. Then use the clamp as your cut guide. This prevents the blade from wandering.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

That's an awesome idea! If you're working with PVC pipes, you probably already have the bands on hand. And if you *really* need help, you could use two, and just saw between them. Thanks! 😄

[@jeremybaity7002]

You are a breath of fresh air. Thanks for keeping it real.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks - that means a lot to me. And I'll keep trying. :-)

[@practicallyIndependent]

I am loving your videos. Very easy to watch and very informative. Very well done. Probably one of the best videos on dust collection I have ever seen. Makes me want to delete mine, lol. Thanks again!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

LOL. Thanks. I'm going back through the comments to my videos, because I just realized that KZbin doesn't always send me an email when someone comments. So, sorry I didn't respond sooner. Live and learn. :o

[@practicallyIndependent]

No problem Dan. I actually think there has been an issue on KZbin lately with notifications. I think they are aware of it and working on it, but I'm not sure. Have a great holiday

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

That would explain it. How did you learn about the problem?

[@practicallyIndependent]

The Newbie Woodworker I do a video every Sunday where I welcome my new subscribers for the week. And I had mentioned in the video that I noticed I wasn't getting notified of all my subscribers. That's when another KZbinr that subscribes to me mention the problem.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

LOL! I missed your response, because... you guessed it - KZbin didn't notify me of it. I've been watching for new comments - they're pretty easy to see. But new replies still get buried. I'm going to have to figure out a system here so I don't miss any.

[@brettfarrell4818]

Chop saw works great for pvc cutting

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! 👍

[@remichapadeau3033]

Totally!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@remichapadeau3033 👍

[@spiegelyt]

This is fantastic. I've watched probably dozens of videos on dust collection. This is the best one I've seen that puts it all together, especially for newbies like me. I"m going to to be adapting this for my tiny workshop. Many thanks!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄

[@farrier2708]

The only tip I have for using PVCu pipe for dust extraction is to wind a copper wire in a wide spiral along it's length and earth it. Wood dust traveling at speed along PVCu can build up a lot of static and will possibly give you quite a belt. Can you tell that's experience talking? #¬)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the comment. I'll have to do a video about that, because nobody likes the "Office Space" effect. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKS3daGknZyHbKM. 😄

[@fyrefyter26]

inside or outside the PVC?

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@fyrefyter26 I'm not sure. I'm gonna have to do some research. But I'm sure there's other KZbin videos on the subject.

[@farrier2708]

@@fyrefyter26 : I've only ever got a belt from the outside :¬) but some people advocate earthed metal screws through the pipe to act as 'lightning rods'. As long as the static on the outside of the pipe is earthed, I can't see that earthing inside the pipe will make much difference. The static probably won't kill you but earthing does prevent the pain.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@farrier2708 Preventing pain is always a good thing. 😄

[@edpretty7348]

Your comment that 45s and wyes only improve the efficiency to a small degree is incorrect. Ninety degree bends in a dust collection system pretty much cuts the efficiency in half and the more you have between the machine and the blower reduce it exponentially more. Any bend in a dust system should have a radius of 1 1/2 times the diameter of the pipe at the center line of the bend. Example: a friend had a tee just off his blower and the flow was negligible. He replaced it with a wye and two 45's and the flow increased more than ten-fold. It made the difference between working and not working. Likewise, flex hose should be kept to a minimum due to the increased friction loss in the flex hose over pipe. Many people get super carried away with flex because it's easy to install.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

There's a tremendous difference between how blower-based collectors work vs. shop-vac-based collectors. One relies on air volume, the other on air speed (or something like that). I don't know the technical details, but they really are different, and so are the effects of 45-vs-90 degree joints. I'm not saying they have no effect, but the difference is much less than you might think, with shop-vac-based systems. See my test results: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqvYgaJuZZegjJo.

[@edpretty7348]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker "Or something like that". :) I've spent my whole adult life moving liquids and gases and friction loss is friction loss. Whether it be due to actual friction from interaction with the wall of the conductor or turbulence due to interruptions in the stream from bends or fittings, it's still friction loss. In truth, the higher the speed involved, the greater the percentage loss. Turbulence due to tight bends rivals throttling a system by using piping that is too small for the greatest power thief in home systems. When you're dealing with a little shop vac you need everything you can get. Best to do everything you can to help it do it's job rather than "that's good enough".

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@edpretty7348 No, actually, "good enough" really is good enough. But I understand what you're saying.

[@laurapurcellpukall9513]

😅

[@cyrilzaney8909]

I was shocked by how much I learned. Thanks a lot. You are quite innovative, and you keep out all unnecessary extraneous talk, which then makes your presentation get to us your audience / students with great clarity. Thanks again.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! Glad I could help! 🙂

[@allboutsean5483]

I was taught in high school you could flip the miter/table saw blade around so it's backwards to use to cut PVC. It's a much less aggressive way to "cut it".

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Wow, how interesting! I wonder if anyone here as tried that? Thanks for the info!

[@speedsnipe]

(Edited for easier reading ;) ) I'm a construction plumber: Don't use a wood circular blade (table, circ) to cut pvc pipe (sheet goods,ie: plexiglass is fine. just keep blade hight half a tooth passed material).. yes it works, but it often melts the already cut pipe leaving pvc on the blade due to the tooth set, using the saw blade backwards also "melts" the pipe more instead of cutting cleanly( so only use if it's a cheap blade or you plan to clean it)... Miter saws work well as long as the pipe is held stationary. Angle grinder with wood blades are good for cutting pvc, but you get more or less completely covered with pvc chips after the cut. There are specialized pvc blades in most sizes (4" 7" 10" 12") if you 'must' cut with a circular bladed tool. If you are using a chop/ miter saw, use a abrasive disk meant to cut metal. Cheap and safe, you will have to grind off the melted pcv on the sides of the cut, but that can be easily done on the side of the disk. (What I use if I'm working in 1 area for a long period of time) I would suggest a low tooth count hack saw blade (12 tpi-18 tpi) or a pvc pipe saw (a good one will cut 2" sch40 pipe in 4 strokes) for small amount of cutting, a reciprocating saw with a 'rough cut' wood blade which has little or no set for large amounts of cutting (what I mainly use when I need mobility). Any decent pipe cutter that's over 1.5" will cost quite a bit... my edc cuts up to 1.25" cost around 15 US, a decent 2 1/2" capacity one costs around 70US (both my local prices, non US). Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with work site safety laws in every country.. so what is legal here.. may not be where you are. (Mainly the grinding the pvc pipe on the side of the abrasive cut off disc, due to having to lift the blade guard while the machine is running.)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Wow! Great stuff. Thanks! Just a quick note on long comments - for anyone reading this: You can compose comments in a text editor, then copy and paste them into a comment box, and that allows you to break them up into multiple paragraphs. For the PVC pipe saw, are you talking about something like this? amzn.to/2zxzbZJ Love the comment about using angle grinders and getting completely covered in PVC chips. I don't think I mentioned it in the video, but I tried this once, and boy are you right! And getting PVC chips off of things is not the easiest thing in the world. Thanks for the info about how circular blades melt the PVC. I had seen that happen, but didn't really understand why. Now I know!

[@speedsnipe]

I use shift+enter on pc to force paragraph changes on youtube :) The stanley pipe saw has good reviews on amazon. haven't tried it myself.. try finding a japanese one if you can.. their pull saws are amazing... this is the brand I use (sorry even us plumbers don't know the actual name lol.. we just call it the 'Japanese Pipe Saw" or just "pipe saw", everyone in the trade uses them more or less exclusively).. www.carbatec.com.au/handtools-and-handplanes/japanese-saws/japanese-utility-saws/utility-pullsaw-h-300-blade-no-z-8032 But no where near that expensive (listed as 30USD), but as I live in East Asia, that could be a major factor.. the saws are roughly 8.50USD and blades are about 6USD Size wise they are about 8 inches of blade and about 1.5 inches high.. they come in rectangular and pointed versions.. the pointed is easier to use (less drag)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info on shift+enter - it works on my Mac also. I should have thought of that. Love the fact you guys call it the "Japanese Pipe Saw". It just makes me laugh!

[@3358g]

2:38 "Moving it around like this is kinda a....drag" I dono but I laughed watching the shopvac trundle along behind him.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thank you! Someone gets my humor. 😂

[@ademkollari8992]

This is one of the best dust collection videos I have seen so far for what I need. Thank you!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 🙂

[@BronkBuilt]

Nice overview. BTW... I cut pvc with chopsaw all the time. Safe? Not sure but never had an issue and the cuts are very clean.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks. I like the way you stated that - good CYA. ;p

[@davidfusick9785]

I work with wood, but also own a swimming pool company. When we are building filter systems with new PVC pipe, we always use a chopsaw for those cuts. Very neat and clean. Makes glue-ups perfect every time !!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Nice to know. Thanks!

[@doveoo5]

@@davidfusick9785 tips on how to stabilize the pipe while cutting.? (keep it from rolling) Do I need to make a cradle or jig? ( SAFETY is my #1 priority.)

[@davidfusick9785]

I only used 4" pvc for my system, so I found that large enough to hold by hand. It didn't roll or even twist. I also was using a brand new blade on my saw, so that helps too.

[@BearsAtticWoodshop]

Very helpful video. Thank you very much for sharing.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're welcome!

[@robertmayfield8939]

I have been searching for information on dust collection, for months...this was amazing! You were very clear and methodical. Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to help me put together my dust collection system for my workbench.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! I'm glad I helped. Feel free to ask questions. Thanks for the comment! 😄

[@vincepresto759]

I’m new to woodworking and have acquired a 10x20’ shed that is empty now and just for me However I have COPD and it gets very dusty FAST ! Thx’s for your Awesome Videoclip On dust control and will start getting all the parts together during these Cold winter days. Only question is what about getting shocked from Static Electricity from the hoses, I seen no grounding at all ? Just wondering ! Thx’s from St Joseph, MO.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks. Regarding static electricity, have a look at this link: www.rockler.com/how-to/exploding-pvc-dust-collection-ductwork/. That's basically my thoughts on the subject. Of course, do whatever you think is best, and I wouldn't fault you for deciding to ground your system. Since you asked the question, I assume you already know there's plenty of KZbin videos on the subject. Because you have COPD, you should also get, or make, an air filtration system to remove dust particles from the air. For a really simple and cheap method, see this video (I know it starts with showing an expensive version, but keep watching): kzbin.info/www/bejne/eITMdX2cn5eXfLM. You can just stick with that method (which I think is a good one), or do more KZbin searches to see the many different solutions people have come up with. I'm not using an air filtration system right now, but as I type this, I'm thinking I should be using one. *sigh* Another thing on the "to do" list. :) Lastly, make sure you use a dust mask of some kind, at least when you're running tools. There's tons of different types available, and I don't know which is good or bad, so you'll have to research that yourself. But since you'll be wearing it a lot, make sure it's comfortable. The ones I have fog up my glasses, so I tend to not use them much, which is probably bad on my part... :) Have fun! Keep us updated on what you decide to do!

[@nathancd]

Jay bates has a video on his air cleaner, which might be a good idea for you to look into as well.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Good idea! John Heisz has one also. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqvcqGWZep18qJI

[@Worrsaint]

I looked in the comments for exactly this. Static shock is less of the issue, dust explosion (more of a fireball) is a much bigger problem. For the PVC you can run a copper wire through it. Not hard to ground it. While risk is low, it has and does happen. I am an engineer and have seen fires started by static discharge. Wood dust is highly flammable.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@Worrsaint Thanks, and I love your KZbin ID. As a retired software engineer, I'd have to say "ditto". 😄From what I've read, it's not really an issue in shops of the size that can use a 2" dust collection system. But I would never tell someone not to do it. And honestly, even if I don't think it's necessary, I wish I had included it in the video, just to be thorough. Too late now, though.

[@ColemanOutdoors]

Great video! But how in the heck do you not have a miter saw in your woodshop?! 😛

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks and LOL. Main reason? No room. I have to pick and choose what tools I can have. Although I'm hoping to create some flip-top cabinets, at some point, so I might have room then.

[@pedroarellano4266]

Right?Q! That's what I thought. HUH??!!! LoL

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Believe it or not, you can get by without a miter saw just fine. For instance Matthias Wandel doesn't use one. Although if I actually did cut a lot of miters, then I'd probably miss having one.

[@captkulage]

I appreciate your ability to focus on detailed areas, spending just the right amount of time to explain. You are able to keep everything interesting enough so it isn't a bore and I look forward to certain steps before you get there! So that I can learn something that I am completely ignorant to and try to retain in the process can be difficult, but you seem to have a pleasant demeanor. Thank you sir

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! That was really nice, and I'm glad I can help. 😄

[@andreqeen2417]

I really enjoy plans from stodoys.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Interesting site. Thanks for sharing.

[@williamkreth]

I cut pipes with my miter

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! 👍

[@williamkreth]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker it works really good on abs and pvc high tooth count cut slow

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@williamkreth 👍

[@rossharvey1496]

I also cut them with my drop saw. I haven’t had a problem but after your experience maybe I need to be more careful.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@rossharvey1496 👍

[@stephendeese97]

This video is sooooo well done! Great content, tons of information, and explained clearly. Thank you for taking the time to make this. Some thoughts on cutting PVC with a miter saw: 1. Keep it well supported on both sides. 2. Use a high tooth blade (96 tooth is best). 3. If you are cutting off a section near one end of the pipe, place a board inside the pvc pipe that will extend out the end. Use a clamp to clamp the board down. This will help hold the pvc in place. 4. Lower to the saw very slowly onto the pvc. 5. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS wear eye protection (and preferably a face shield as well). 6. I wear a N95 rated dust mask when I cut PVC.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the nice compliments, and the great tips. And after what happened to me, I totally agree with #5. 😄

[@simoncameron4355]

This video should be renamed, "How I give Rockler all my money"!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

At the time I made this video, that was probably true!

[@EmmanuelLorenzo]

also it encourage ppl to watch other videos... so i dont see the problem in recomend the brand u use

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@EmmanuelLorenzo That's OK, those kinds of comments go with the territory. Lots of people are suspicious of creators being "shills" for big companies. 😏

[@simoncameron4355]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker Sorry I was just poking fun, didn't mean nothing by it.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@simoncameron4355 I know - sorry if I didn't make that clear. I was just agreeing with you. 😄

[@Augcliffe]

First video that explained dust collection set up very well! I’ll use this in my shop

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄

[@anon5027]

Yes! A simple, straightforward, well explained video with no annoying music. I especially liked how you included basic info like heating pvc pipe to help mould it to use it as a connector etc. Perhaps stuff that is obvious to others but as a middle aged female who is interested in diy but who has no shop experience, I found it very useful and easy to understand and I appreciate your time in making this. Liked and subscribed! :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and glad to have you aboard! 😄

[@mmclaugh08]

Excellent instructional video. Simple and basic with real solutions that don't send you chasing new products and spending a lot of money. Great for us home-based diy'ers who aren't necessarily trying to keep up with the experts.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! And yes, trying to keep up with the experts is a losing situation. 😄

[@peachfilms]

Finally, someone who explains it very simply without costing a fortune. Thank you!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

You're quite welcome! 😄

[@derekmoen5382]

haha its your health. sorry but 2" pvc has very little help with getting the fine dust that leads to health problems. while this is better slightly better than nothing. there is a big difference. you can get good dust collection without spending a fortune.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@derekmoen5382 Well, you're right and you're wrong. Yes, 2" PVC wont get rid of fine dust. But chances are, you're not getting rid of it with your existing dust collector, either. According to Bill Pentz, most people's dust collection system doesn't have large enough pipes and enough power to capture the fine dust particles. And even if it does, if you vent inside your shop, which most people do, you've basically just got a dust pump. It's a lot harder to remove fine dust particles than you think. All I'm saying is, don't assume that just because you think you have a "proper" setup, it doesn't mean that you're protected from fine dust particles. billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm.

[@derekmoen5382]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker you have read bill pentzs stuff and you are still telling me I'm wrong? You must have missed a lot of pages....I have read it all and some books. Bill definitely knows his dust. Dont quote me but I think He recommends a minimum of 5 inch duct. A 6" duct is way better which allows around a 1000 cfm. Now I have had several cyclone dust collectors with okay success. I now have a 5hp Oneida pro 2000 with 5hp. 8 inch main that drops to 6 inch lines then at the table saw I have a 5 and 4 inch, with 2 routers built in that each have a 5 and 4 inch lines, jointer and planer are 6" lines both bandsaws have 2 4inch lines each, my 16/32 drum sander has it's own 4 inch line. All the other small sanders, drill presses, mortising machine and others all 4 and 5", radial arm saw, miter saw 6" lines, downdraft table will also have 5" line and internal blower. I can assure you I'm on top of it. It took getting sick from dust for me to realize I had to better it. I'm 38 this is mostly a hobby for me. It doesn't matter if you're a weekend maker or fulltime dust collection is very important. Dust not chips!! Remember you cant see the dust your not getting. People see videos like this and while it is better than nothing think that this is the key to getting all the dust and it's not! And in all fairness it's a good video. I also got the collector used for 800 most of the spiral pipe, gates and fittings slightly used for 200 more gates, 6" elbows and connectors ran me 260. I still have a ton of pipe left.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@derekmoen5382 OK, Derek, I painted you with the wrong brush, and for that I apologize. I appreciate that you obviously have taken Bill Pentz's research to heart. Mind you, what I said still holds true for a lot of people, who think a Harbor Freight dust collector and 4" pipes will solve all their fine dust collection needs. You and I both know that's not true. This particular video is for newbies who don't have any kind of dust collection at all. Should I have mentioned fine dust particles? Honestly, I didn't even know about that until a while after I made this video, so it's a moot point. I've been thinking about making a follow-up video for quite some time, discussing fine dust collection. But honestly, I'm just not qualified. Additionally, whatever I would say in it would start a flame battle, and I'd end up being in the position of having to defend Bill Pentz' research and conclusions, and I just can't do that. Like I said, I only know what I've read, and although I believe him, I don't want to make a video I can't verify myself. And I'm not about to invest in a fine dust meter that I'm not even sure would be calibrated properly, and would give me numbers that were actually relevant. I hope that all makes sense.

[@fb510m]

EXCELLENT! as a "newbie" I'm having problem with this now = nothing seems to fit, especially that Rockler flex hose which came with the Dust Right Separator I purchased - what a pain that one was. Finally I heated the hose in the oven on a pan at 200 degrees while I chilled the fixed connectors outside in the 19 degree air, and the connectors finally went on the flex hose. One went perfectly, the other is on but it is not a pretty fit as you mention, it's very difficult to achieve perfection. I've subscribed and will be witching your other vids. I'll be making a set up like you have shown. Really did not want to do that, but see now that is is necessary. Much appreciate the helpful video; Thank you!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! You're on the right track with heating stuff. Get some PVC or PVC couplers, and heat them using a heat gun or hair dryer. That'll let you expand the end(s) so you can make connectors and adapters to make anything fit. You can also heat them in the oven, on aluminum foil at 350 for about 5 minutes, but a lot of people are worried about fumes. From what I've read, unless you actually burn PVC, you're fine, but what do I know? 😄After a while you'll get good at making connectors and adapters. And sometimes, just duct tape will do the trick!

[@scottorr1378]

I very much appreciate the quality of your video and the information you shared. Your ability to connect the video with very informative explanations is outstanding.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! That means a lot! 😄

[@johnmoore9404]

Great basic video on dust collection system Miter saw does cut pvc nicely, but you have to hold it down and it will shatter if it moves and cuts.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! And thanks for the info 😄

[@jimhalleron4012]

This video was by far the most informative I have seen on this subject. I have been toying with the idea of making my own system but I have neither the time nor the confidence to do it. Matt, thank you for the confidence boost.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

You're quite welcome! 😄

[@loupanella9632]

This is a great setup! What amazes me is how that little shop vacuum sucked up dust from quite a distance!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks. It does work pretty well, but remember that nothing is perfect. 😄

[@loupanella9632]

The Newbie Woodworker That is for sure!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@loupanella9632 😄

[@PaulROyen]

Your tip on moulding PVC is one I wish I had seen before struggling with mismatching connections!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

👍

[@snobear41]

Not dust related but something I came up with years ago as a flooring remodeling contractor. I re-purposed countrytime lemonade containers for my nails, screws & fasteners. They don't rust, don't shatter if dropped, come with a "dish" cap if you just need a few, which you can write on with a sharpie for easy ID AND fit perfectly into 4" PVC rings arranged in shallow box as a wall hung storage rack- Tyler

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

That sounds great! Thanks for sharing.

[@DokDream]

I've got a lot of experience in industrial dust collection. Your video was quite well done. Cyclonic collecters come in a variety of sizes. I read where one fellow made his own from a 5-gal pail with the inlet offset. His appeared to work. But remember, the way a cyclone works is based on inertia. The more aerodynamically dense particles whirl around the inner circumference of the separator eventually falling out of the air stream while the less dense particle remain in the air stream and are vented out the top. Best to send it up at 45 degree angles, then down through 90 elbow into a 2nd 45, than to use 90 degree elbows, which make a shelf on which particulates can accumulate, eventually clogging your system. Air flow speed is important, as well as pressure. If you use a shop-vac, you are depending on ambient air pressure to cause flow. OK, if the goal is total collection. If there is a need to separate particles from each other based on aerodynamic properties, you need a blower instead of a vacuum to entrain the material in the air stream. Then, adjust the flow rate to create the sort of pressure needed to segregate. BTW, I bought a small cyclone online for $18.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info.

[@scofah]

I love love love love love you. Thank you a thousand times over for not backing up your info with music and hyped up sound effects. Your approach and nformation is really helpful.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

LOL. I totally get it. Flash and pop are OK if they don't detract, but otherwise, shut off the music and tell it to me straight! Thanks, and you're welcome!

[@mykehoole5787]

Hi Dan, I’m in the process of building a work bench which will incorporate my Mitre Saw, Table Saw, Router, Stand Drill and want to include a Dust collection manifold with a Cyclone and my Bosch Vacuum. I have watched dozens of KZbin video’s about Dust Collection in workshops and yours was the most comprehensive and informative I have seen, I wish that components such as the Blast Gates were so easily available in the UK as they are in the US. I’m now going to look at more of your videos. Keep up the good work. Myke

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, Myke, and glad I could help! Good luck with the blast gates.

[@gratefulpop407]

Video was really helpful. Just setting up a collection system and your information gives me direction. One trick I use when cleaning shop vac filters is to place filter in plastic lawn bag, twist the end, and knock it around a bit. The dust stays in the bag so I don’t have to wait for my neighbors to go shopping when I clean my filter.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

😂 I like the way you think. 😄 And thanks.

[@youtubeaholic2154]

That sanding table was pretty neat! Never thought of that. And i like how you're showing even a small wood shop can have a dust collection system.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! And yes, even a shop in one half of a two-car garage can have dust collection. 😄

[@pvaughan55]

Thank you for a most comprehensive discussion on dust collection. I learned a lot and will apply some of your ideas to my situation. This might be helpful, I have placed a bag over the filter of my shop vac, so I clean the bag and never replace the filter. You can find them on Amazon, the size will depend on what kind and size of shop vac you use.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info. I was going to try that if the Dust Deputy didn't work, but it's worked very well, and I haven't had to replace the filter in several years.

[@daniellenavarrete4418]

i never leave comments on how-to videos, but this was awesome. to the point and so comprehensive!!! good work

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for taking the time to leave such a nice comment! I really appreciate it, and I'm glad you liked the video. 😄

[@thorlo1278]

I have been doing woodworking since the early 70's. In all that time this was the best most informative video on dust collection I have ever heard. This was very informative. Thank you so much such a great video. You really are a great teacher!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Wow. I have goosebumps right now. Thank you SO much for the nice comment. I can't tell you how good that makes me feel. To say you made my day is quite an understatement. Thank you!

[@lonewolf3564]

Hello sir this is the first video I have seen from your channel and I would just like to say it was better than most of the videos I've seen on KZbin would working or otherwise. You presented everything so clearly and you didn't bombard us with ads. I liked your video so much It's all it took for me to subscribe. Excellent work

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, that means a lot! And welcome aboard 😄

[@ken-xm8gh]

As someone who is stepping into woodworking and setting up my workspace, this helps a lot, thank you.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄

[@maxximumb]

We recently had our guttering and downpipes replaced. The guys who did it used a chop saw / mitre saw to cut all the pipes and gutters. The fence had been modified with a piece of wood with 2 grooves cut in it to allow the 2 different pipe sizes to be held firmly with more contact to the fence. When I spoke with the guys they said the modified fence wasn't really needed, it just made it easier and safer when that was all they cut with that saw. They did say however a good saw blade makes for better cuts and to use a blade with 48/50 teeth. Less can cause the pipe to shatter. To cut the guttering they said to place the open side down can cut carefully, not pressing too hard. Thanks for the great tips.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Wow, that's great information. Nothing like hearing from people who do something for a living. Thanks!

[@davidbergewaytogo]

I work in a small 8x10 shed, and was in the process of using PVC and flexible hose to make a system, but I was tired of fussing around with parts that don't fit, etc.... Geez, I even built a manifold to choose between three different intake ports as I didn't want to buy expensive blast gates and such. But at the end of the day, what worked for me, is to use short runs of flexible hoses from each of my tools up to my my Duststopper intake, and connect the Duststopper to whatever tool I want, by hand. No gates, no tees.... I just grab one of the labeled hoses, and insert into my intake... I think I was aiming for perfection and overthinking much of all this! I feel that connecting whichever hose to the Duststopper by hand takes a few seconds and makes everything simpler. Just a thought :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

That's a really cool idea. I never thought of it from that direction before - I was always thinking of the run from the vacuum to the tool, not the other way around. I'm sure it wouldn't fit everyone's needs, but it works for yours, so that's way cool! One thing you could consider, depending on how many runs you have: Check out this picture - it'll help you understand what I'm describing: i.pinimg.com/564x/69/5c/40/695c40d9283560532719a160a107f961.jpg. It's a sliding panel with the dust hoses attached to it. Use magnets to cause it to stick in the right place. I hope it makes sense. If you need a better explanation, let me know and I'll see what I can come up with.

[@benjaminkorhum5068]

@@TheNewbieWoodworker just because of the fact you took the time to suggest an option adapted to that gentleman's idea, you have my sub... ok, also because your video was very good, well explained, well presented, very clear even for the French dude I am... and we all know how "good" frogs' English is.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

@@benjaminkorhum5068 LOL. Thanks for the support. And sorry for the delay in responding - my hard drive crashed and took until now to get everything restored (fortunately I had a current backup).

[@ChrystianGuy]

This is the best dust collection videos I have seen. Comprehensive and well presented. I'm redoing my shop and I'll follow these tips. Thank you sir!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks you, and you're quite welcome!

[@aaron_phillips]

Great video. Fully explains the basics of dust collection in an easy to understand format.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help.

[@arkansasmountainman]

Your style of teaching reminds me of my shop teacher in Jr high. VERY clear, to the point and logically presented. I subscribed and get all notices a while back. Even though I'm not a newbie, built my own cabin, I still pick up some knowledge from you. Please keep the content coming!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thank you! If you ever see me offer bad advice, or do something a really stupid way, please let me know. 😄

[@MINaturalist]

I used thinwall 4" drainfield PVC for most of my dust collection system (got it at the local ReStore for .50 per foot). I had no trouble cutting it with my miter saw. Just keep a firm grip on it. If you are sawing short lengths for fittings, a band saw works great. Blast gates can jam even if mounted horizontally. To remedy this, I drilled a 1/8" hole in in the two corners opposite the slide. The small amount of air sucked in these holes keeps dust from building up in the corners, but it does slightly decrease the suction. The corner holes are completely closed when the blast gate is closed. so they don't compromise the rest of the system.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the info! 😄

[@waynemiller6070]

Yes, your video has addressed my issues precisely. Although my workbench / outfeed table is on wheels, I usually put that and my miter saw in the same spots when I use them in the garage. I can see that using PVC, flexible hoses and blast gates along with my shop vac and dustopper will be the solution I was looking for. Thanks for the reminder that perfection is not attainable. 😉 Terrific demonstrations, explanations and presentation.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄And I learned about perfection from Tin Cup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5CVfIqfmp6bd7M&t=46

[@jschraubenzieher910]

Thank you for posting this video. Structured, neatly recorded, no annoying music, no tool noise, and great content. I particularly like your voice over. It shows that you are thinking and carefully preparing your material, not the ramblings or off-the-cuff remarks so common in other videos. Your voice is also very powerful, and projects a quality of "trust me, I am an expert". I have a question: Should you have used 45 degree instead of 90 degree elbows, and Rockler's Wye instead of T connections? Those sharp turns must be killers to airflow. Regarding the PVC cutting controversy. I have not seen comments that discuss the issue with dust and small particles of PVC that are thrown everywhere and stick to everything when you cut using a miter saw or table saw. I prefer erring on the side of caution, so I use a P100 filter respirator whenever I am cutting PVC.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks for the nice comment! Regarding PVC, I think using a filter is a good idea. The particles small enough to really cause damage are pretty-much invisible, so it doesn't hurt to err on the side of safety. Regarding 45-degree elbows, it seems to me they don't have that much effect on systems that use shop vacs. Systems that use "blower"-style dust collectors are affected much more. It has something to do with air speed vs. air volume, or something like that. But let me say this: I arrived at this conclusion after using an anemometer to do some tests on my system. There's no guarantee I was even using the anemometer correctly, so take it with a grain of salt.

[@CheesedCheese]

i know this videos 6 years old, but I've found handsaws are always the best for cutting PVC, definitely going to give this setup a shot, best one I've seen so far.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! And it's amazing the diverse ways people have found to cut PVC. Very cool.

[@randiekosakowski346]

Great job on this video. I am not new to dust collection but I watched the whole thing because I thought it was really well organized and thought out. Again, great job.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks you! That's a nice compliment. 😄

[@e_d_v_a_u_s]

Watched this for dust collection and saw the sanding station. Brilliant! Thanks for the idea!

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄

[@RonKillian]

Love, love, love the video. It is VERY refreshing to see a video on this topic for home woodworkers that don't have a shop with $100k worth of tools or a 100 HP collector. Too many videos with high price tools and systems. Perfect for my shop with about as many tools as you have. Perfect. Great job on the video. Wish I could give more than one thumbs up :)

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks, Ron! You just made my day. 😄

[@RonKillian]

You deserve the thanks. If I was doing woodworking for a living, then it might be different. But as a hobby, house remodeling, ect, I don't need big fancy stuff. Just watched another video before yours, the guy had a $2K collector in the back ground. Ya, like my budget would handle that. Only thing, PVC still makes me slightly nervous, few people talk about static electricity causing problems. But seems very rare, more saying it's not an issue. Gonna check out your PVC moulding video.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Thanks! As for PVC and static electricity, I have a video on the subject, but it can be summed up by this web page: www.rockler.com/exploding-pvc-dust-collection-ductwork. So personally, I'm not worried. But if you get blown up, it's not my fault. 😛 Regarding molding PVC, you may end up preferring to use a heat gun. The oven method seems to freak some people out. Or their wives. 😳

[@davidmorris3399]

Thank you for such a comprehensive overview of dust collection. I’m building a narrow (1.7m x 3.4m) workshop, so don’t have space for a rolling dust cart - which means building it into one of the cabinets. The idea of inverted ‘drops’ is pretty cool, so I’ll look at incorporating that. Looking forward to more of your calm informative style.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄

[@Jpetramala16]

Thank you for a great video. I am new to wood working and have found the dust to be a real problem. I was cleaning up with a shop vac but of course clogged it with all the dust. A better explanation of how the cyclone works was great. Now I feel more confident that I can have a dust collection system that isn't going to cost a bunch of money.

[@TheNewbieWoodworker]

Awesome! Glad I could help. Feel free to ask questions. 😄