A New Way to Fix Your Leaking Waders

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The New Fly Fisher

The New Fly Fisher

Күн бұрын

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@WA-eg7ft
@WA-eg7ft Жыл бұрын
I sent my back to Simms and was awarded the Red stamp of no longer under warranty and non fixable. So this lack of a better word, hack is a great idea. Thanks for posting the helpful video.
@anthonyhipps8500
@anthonyhipps8500 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the wader fixing tips Colin. This is the first time I have heard of this type of fix. God Bless and tight lines, Anthony Hipps
@50Squirrel
@50Squirrel Жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant! So simple & yet I wouldn’t have thought of it! Thanks for sharing!
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@garyweglarz
@garyweglarz Жыл бұрын
This is awesome - I've been thinking about this issue and various options for an old pair of waders that I love. This is it! Thanks much! I'll probably get a bit fussy when I do it and stuff the waders with crumpled newspapers first. Great idea.
@beyoutube76
@beyoutube76 Жыл бұрын
Nice! I did this 4/5 years ago to the booted feet. The first few times it was stiff, but became flexible and comfortable, no leaks. I bought a pair of Simms a couple years ago but still wear my old ones waiting for them to fail. They do have a couple "seeping" leaks that I will spray soon. Probably with bright orange just to be different! Cleaning them is a good idea I need to also do.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@robertlynn7332
@robertlynn7332 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if this would work. I was concerned it might further damage th waders. I think I'll try it on an old pair of waders that seem to be weeping that I haven't thrown away yet. Thanks
@leely222
@leely222 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this fix. Very helpful.
@ChefAlexSocci
@ChefAlexSocci Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Will this then render the wader un-breathable wherever its sprayed?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
It should as you're now sealing off the breathability. But still worth doing if you get more use out of your waders
@ChefAlexSocci
@ChefAlexSocci Жыл бұрын
@@newflyfisherSorry should haver finished the video before asking! Lol
@willyf6172
@willyf6172 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, if you only do a portion of the wader , only in that area would cut off the breathability . I myself don’t stand in water more than knee deep a whole lot , so only need to worry about the lower leg , where sweating isn’t to big of an issue.
@wish2fish37
@wish2fish37 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this.Trying to figure out leaks myself.Used the alcohol method but can’t find any holes with that method.Tried a flashlight also and found one and Aquasealed it.Still getting wet.Thought it was in a seam but they appear good.Was going to just Aquaseal the seams on the outside and go from there.
@MarkHous
@MarkHous Жыл бұрын
The interior laminate of my 20 year old Orvis rain jacket had worn off in the neck and shoulder area. I gave it several coats of Flexseal. I wore the jacket in March salmon fishing in Scotland. It works.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that positive reinforcement of Flexseal as an option to fix leaks
@mwiltfang4618
@mwiltfang4618 Жыл бұрын
I just dissolved some 100% silicone caulk/sealant in acetone at a 50/50 ratio and brushed it onto a leaky area of some hip waders where the rubber layer between the cloth layers had hardened and crack along a fold. It works to make other fabric 100% waterproof, should work here too.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Great idea, thanks!
@Charactermatters650
@Charactermatters650 Жыл бұрын
Plasti-dip spray is best! I think it adheres and stretches with you better. The truth of it is all waders kind of suck and leak quite easily - I think no one makes a good wader.
@snigman
@snigman Жыл бұрын
I believe I’m having the same issue, and may give this a try, but I was wondering about using a fabric waterproofing like Nikwax? Any thoughts on this?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
We had lots of comments about using DWR products first such as Nikwax, Revivex, and Atsko Water Guard. In the new year we plan on doing another video testing those products. In my experience with Revivex, it does work but for only a short period. If you have a leaking wader or weeping in a relatively small area, Flex Seal seems to be a better option. This not a recommendation for waders still inside the manufacturers warranty but more for older waders that need love in order to get more use/time with them. Hope that helps
@thomaswoodruff2377
@thomaswoodruff2377 3 ай бұрын
Why not spray the Flexseal on the outside? You have lost breathability anyway, right?
@DanielSwe93
@DanielSwe93 Жыл бұрын
What happens to the softness/suppleness of the material? Also, this would probably remove any breathing capabilities of the membrane?
@MGS566
@MGS566 11 ай бұрын
The softness or suppleness of this product starts to go away about two years after it is applied. A $10 fix in a can that can add another two years to a pair of waders as well worth it especially when you are putting 200 days a year on the water.
@jimcadorette1140
@jimcadorette1140 4 ай бұрын
Question: If you wear shorts with your waders, do you feel the rubber on your skin? I've got cycling shorts with a strip of rubber to keep them in place by gripping onto my leg. I was wondering if this has the same affect. Thanks for the video.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher 4 ай бұрын
I don't think so, but then I rarely wear shorts in waders. Best to check that out and let us know what you found. Thanks
@ferniea92
@ferniea92 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@zubertish
@zubertish Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Have you tried ATSKO DWR/ Water Guard Extreme? They are the makers of Sno-Seal, an old time trusted snow/water proofing compound for boots. This DWR has a special X-link (cross link) bond that helps keep out moisture/water while maintaining breathability of the fabric which is so important. I have used Water Guard Extreme for a few years now on boots, jackets, snow gear and have been really happy with it. I have used Sno-Seal for decades and trust it with my gear. Why stop at FlexSeal and no breathability when you can have the best of both worlds?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Great recommendation, we will check them out asap. Appreciate this feedback
@willyf6172
@willyf6172 Жыл бұрын
But have you tried it on waders ? I just looked at the ATSKO website as well as various other places and have found no mention of use on waders . Use on tents or raincoats etc., is not the same as use on waders . Not saying it won’t work on waders , just that none claim it works on waders in the info I have looked through so far.
@wish2fish37
@wish2fish37 7 ай бұрын
Do you spray Atsko inside or outside of waders?.
@tomargent7202
@tomargent7202 Жыл бұрын
But if the DWR has worn off, why not first add actual DWR spray to the exterior of the outer fabric, which is where the original DWR was?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Good question. The issue is that DWR is not readily available to consumers plus it is exceptionally toxic. That is my understanding of why you cannot obtain it to spray on
@jferr7691
@jferr7691 Жыл бұрын
@@newflyfisheryes, google PFAS for the toxic chemicals.
@stephenrosenfeld833
@stephenrosenfeld833 Жыл бұрын
@@newflyfisherMy local flyshop sells Revivex DWR and there are no special warnings on it. (Having said that, it didn’t solve my problem, but I guess it was a more serious leak). I see that Simms recommends Nikwax which I can get at an outdoors and camping store. I haven’t tried it myself.
@williamklauber8970
@williamklauber8970 Жыл бұрын
Even if you do have access to the DWR coating, it will most likely affect adhesion of any other compounds.
@BigDoeJ424
@BigDoeJ424 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@newflyfisherwhat? It is just as available as Flexseal. They sell it at REI or online. Nikwax or ReviveX are a few brands to look at. I use it on my ski gear every year
@markrougeux2913
@markrougeux2913 Жыл бұрын
Great tip. Much appreciated. My weeping seems to occur in the neoprene bootie. After hours on the water, my sock will be wet. I won't really notice it until I'm off the water and removing my clothes. Have you tried FlexSeal on the neoprene section of your waders, or is AquaSeal still the standard solution?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Have not tried FlexSeal in the booted feet but if you check out the comments below, someone else did and it worked! Good question, thanks
@DeformedDevices
@DeformedDevices Жыл бұрын
Using a color would help make the application easier because you can see the coverage better and the thickness
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
good recommendation, thanks
@jpvand1
@jpvand1 Жыл бұрын
Are you recommending this over restoring the DWR?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
good question. in speaking with many people who have had this issue, seems to be mixed results with using Revivex or other DWR repair options. FlexSeal is another option. I am currently in Ohio fishing and going into cold waters with flex seal repair and no issues so far in terms of leaking or wader flexibility. thanks
@leonardwood8024
@leonardwood8024 Жыл бұрын
Great info. How about about an update?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Leonard, please check out some of the comments from others. Good info sent in and also options for other ways to fix issue of leaking. My fave is the option of ATSKO DWR/ Water Guard Extreme. Great reviews on this product! I have ordered some and will test this year for a future product review
@YTBEN1045
@YTBEN1045 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if you call that a light application. Seems like you're soaking it wet.
@stringtwister7654
@stringtwister7654 Жыл бұрын
I found a much better way! After my morning shower i dry off and spray flexseal on my legs! Keeps me dry and i don't have to buy wader's! Also adding a spray to my coffee keeps me dry on the inside as well😅
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Great tip, lol, thanks for sharing!
@ashleyevans3330
@ashleyevans3330 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jackinthewoodsii8653
@jackinthewoodsii8653 Жыл бұрын
Can weeping cause condensation or is that normal?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Condensation is usually caused temperature inversion within the water. So if you walk or run up a hill in your waders, then go into cold water right after, that may cause condensation on the inside of the waders. Weeping is where the waders are actually slowly allowing water to migrate through the material. Hope that helps
@leonardchecchio1655
@leonardchecchio1655 Жыл бұрын
Does using flex seal void the warranty? I suspect it will.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Not sure, something you can probably check out in the website of the wader company. But if you're waders are still under warranty and they're weeping, then you should exchange them.
@BigDoeJ424
@BigDoeJ424 Жыл бұрын
100%
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Leonard I checked various company websites about this concern (Orvis, Simms and Patagonia) and none state this will void your warranty, If your waders are within the warranty period (Simms is one year), then I would not take a chance by using FlexSeal. However, if your waders are still within the warranty period and they are leaking or weeping, you should send them back for repair for replacement anyways. As I stated in the video, the Flexseal option is more for extending older waders life. Thanks
@jeffjones4006
@jeffjones4006 Жыл бұрын
Why not just use a good silicone spray?
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
That is a good option as well, it would be interesting how long that would last before re-application is needed. One of our cameramen has an older Orvis wading jacket which he loves. It developed "water absorption" on the shoulder and elbows and we used 3M Water Repellant on those areas and it seemed to work well for 3-4 months before needing another application. Thanks for your feedback
@mooney411
@mooney411 Жыл бұрын
I have used this method on an old pair of waders. I have a pair that's at least 5 years old so i figured i'd give it a try. What could hurt! Well, it does work and I primarily have used it on the seams and booties. I use the clear and its very noticeable where you're applying it while its wet.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, thanks for your feedback. The waders I sprayed in this video I used in December when steelhead fishing in Ohio. Had no leaks or weeping in those older waders, this trick taught to us by guides really does work! Cheers
@johnlaudenslager706
@johnlaudenslager706 4 ай бұрын
If the seeping is because the outer DWR treatment/layer is worn, why are you spraying FlexSeal on the inner layer? And, after, your waders are no longer breathable in that area, right?
@keithkijowski8077
@keithkijowski8077 Жыл бұрын
I paid $700 for my Simms waders and they would never recommend this. You just created neoprene non-breathable waders out of these Orvis breathable waders. Cant wait to see how much moisture will now be retained on the inside especiallly on a warm day. Proper cleaning and re-application of a quality DWR will do the trick better. I think you just created a video you will retract.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback Keith. This repair option is definitely not for waders still under warranty, Simms have a one year warranty. However, like the waders I used in the video which were at least four years old, using FlexSeal is one option you have for fixing weeping or leaking. The FlexSeal is surprising flexible, even in cold water, just like Aquaseal is on seams. I have used spray DWR products but have found they are not that effective and do not last long. The FlexSeal option is one professional guides use in western Canada to help extend the life of their waders. Most wader producing companies state that with "normal usage" waders should last 3-4 years. Guides and some anglers, obvious put alot more demand/wear on their waders and this FlexSeal option is a good one IMHO but everyone has their preferences. Happy holidays!
@willyf6172
@willyf6172 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video showing how to do this DWR re-application? Also , where can you get DWR?
@aaronantonio8280
@aaronantonio8280 11 ай бұрын
Always someone. 🤦‍♂ For those $120 waders, this may in fact be the answer. Some of us don't have the luxury of being pimped out in fly fishing gear with Simms or Orvis as our corporate sponsors.
@davidmalandro4734
@davidmalandro4734 7 ай бұрын
I've used camp dry
@dannythorne9761
@dannythorne9761 4 күн бұрын
I've got this problem with new waders
@glenndotter5065
@glenndotter5065 Жыл бұрын
Been using it for years.
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming it works.
@timDaly-eo9bl
@timDaly-eo9bl Жыл бұрын
I weep when the fish gets away
@gregstafford5447
@gregstafford5447 9 ай бұрын
I don’t weep………. I SCREAM OBSCENELY!!!
@soobz
@soobz Жыл бұрын
Might as well buy some cheap PVC waders as this will just kill the breathability. There are DWR products I'd be trying first, eg. Grangers or Nickwax, plenty of info on treating Goretex raingear to explain it.
@weisswurstfruhstuck8523
@weisswurstfruhstuck8523 Жыл бұрын
Why not putting the stuff and spray it on the outside! Not the inside ? Didn’t get the reason behind that.
@betrickey
@betrickey Жыл бұрын
Now help me figure out where that pin hole leak in my Simms is at... 🤷
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher Жыл бұрын
Check out Tom's video here, may help with that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2Gac4SFaNmCbcU
@JAaurora2419
@JAaurora2419 6 ай бұрын
Doubt they are breathable after that .. might as well buy cheap pvc bulletproof waders
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher 6 ай бұрын
They are still breathable everywhere but where you spray. In the field fix that works, just used it up north when my daughter tore her waders on exposed screw in a boat. Put patch on and then sprayed inside. No leaks
@bradleycousineau6394
@bradleycousineau6394 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if flex seal is toxic to your skin
@Troutguyfromdubai
@Troutguyfromdubai Жыл бұрын
Do you not wear a layer under your waders?
@flyfish6473
@flyfish6473 2 ай бұрын
Spray the flex seal on the outside of your waders if you're worried.
@erikhancock98569
@erikhancock98569 2 ай бұрын
Once its cured and completely dry its probably as safe as the chemicals and materials used in making the waders.
@MikeWitmerNatureJournal
@MikeWitmerNatureJournal 8 ай бұрын
Void your warranty if you do this to your waders
@newflyfisher
@newflyfisher 8 ай бұрын
If you still have a warranty, then you should be having the manufacturer fix or replace the waders. This fix is aimed at fixing older waders that have this issue. Thanks for your feedback
@ronparr6799
@ronparr6799 8 ай бұрын
flex steel is worthless...come on man
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