Black Sails - 4x6 XXXIV - Group Reaction

Spain attacks and the island is steeped in chaos in Season 4 Episode 6! Our discussion and review follows the reaction!
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[@Lady_Yunalesca]

So, one of the cornerstones of Elenor's character is the death of her mother in the Rosario Raids. It was a terrifying experience that affected her very deeply, and I can't imagine that Woodes Rodgers didn't know about it. With that in mind, the fact he brought Spain to Nassau really adds an extra sting. I've mentioned in other comments that I don't think we're meant to 'ship' Elenor and Rodgers as such; or rather, their relationship isn't meant to be healthy. In the beginning it feels to Elenor like they are on equal footing. He listens to her advice, and seeks it out. He knows the awful things she's done, and tells her he loves her anyway. But we see as soon as she becomes his wife how quickly her role changes, is *expected* to change. And here, with his actions, we see that Rodgers never truly knew or understood Elenor at all, nor she him.

[@Triskaan]

Madi and Eleanor, one of the most credible relationships of two characters who supposedly grew together but just learnt of at the last moment... and yet, as I've said, it's totally convincing. Credit to the acting and writing.

[@bobturwilliger37]

Pat, get ready to have your mind blown....horses didn't exist in the Americas until Europeans brought them over...on boats.

[@leahmarie112]

bobturwilliger37 🤯

[@lullhabit6292]

just like they brought their own asses there lmao, also wtf, that's impossible, are you telling me that the First Nations didn't have horses befor europeans arrive ? I'm very curious

[@introvertsafterdark8030]

This isn't true. There were horses in The Americas before Europeans arrived.

[@dodapictures2141]

@@introvertsafterdark8030 No there weren’t actually, lol. The only horses native to the Americas died out in the Pleistocene. Educate yourself.

[@magicstar8812]

When Chris asks about the "1 Asian dude" at the back ... I kind of smiled ...!!!

[@owenseibel7143]

I always called that guy the pirate ninja.

[@siohead9021]

his name is Joji i think

[@Chris-th5fl]

it was pretty cool on how Flint was taking control of the british men in that moment.

[@abdusalim4610]

Okay, I will take one for the team and defend Eleanor for once. Yes, she killed Vane out of revenge but if you noticed, Vane's death was a great completion for his story arc as he inspired the resistance in Nassau which played a heavy part of season 4. If the writers had Eleanor die just out of revenge for Vane's death, then thats how people will remember her character, while having her die like this gives more weight to her backstory and character development since her mother died in a spanish raid, and believe me, Black Sails is all about characters.

[@BhBc8f8]

Nah fuck Eleanor. Rough way to go tho

[@michellemorgan6986]

Totally agree with this. We were all enraged by what she did to Vane, but her backstory and even the fact that she was pregnant, added so much more to her death, that it was, indeed, heartbreaking to watch. Excellent story-telling!!💯

[@Narukamiiii]

Ofc he cares, he always cared, he just didn't let anyone get in his way, which you guys perceived as not caring :/

[@leahmarie112]

Narukami the Normies do not do nuance or multi-level characters very well.

[@BhBc8f8]

And yet if someone told Flint to sacrifice 3 randoms in his crew in exchange for the urca, he would do it without hesitation. That has always been Flint's flaw. To him the ends will always justify the means because he is a product of loss, pain and suffering. A great man indeed, terrible but great.

[@Syndor12]

@@BhBc8f8 he does what he does, for the greater good. He almost always sees the bigger picture. He'd kill a dozen men if it meant he could save a hundred.

[@chaost4544]

@@Syndor12 there have been so many immoral, god awful things done for "the greater good" that the argument doesn't hold a lot of merit to me.

[@jaives]

the asian character is joji and he did have a line in the very first episode. when the blacksmith sharpened his sword, he handed it back and said "again".

[@Vendrix86]

one line too much

[@babyray5643]

He never said anything, he just looked at logan and handed him the sword

[@jaives]

@@babyray5643 you're right! had to rewatch it coz i could've sworn when i watched a reaction video. he only goes "hmmm..."

[@blueskybelyr]

12:53 ........ maybe a little too excited about the violent murder of one of several morally grey characters.... Eleanor wasn't perfect, she often valued power and financial gain over the lives of others, but that's the case for Silver, Flint, Vane and Jack as well, and they never got any vitriol.

[@alexblazquezvelarde8677]

Whenever i see the power of Spain represented accurately in the media, I smile

[@leahmarie112]

Alex Blazquez Velarde I wish we saw it more often!

[@granddaddyotaku636]

You guys need to react to The Last Kingdom on Netflix. Definitely reaction worthy. And if you like these history action stories like Black Sails and Vikings, you will definitely enjoy watching TLK 😁🙏

[@Phizzo4real]

I am finally catching up with the 4th season. I binged the whole series this weekend. I love it! I have Black Sails and TLK, so i prolly should get on Vikings. I have heard a lot about it.

[@whitewolf288]

@@Phizzo4real Ragnar Lothbrok is one of the best characters of all time in any series. Enjoy

[@SpeedyCat19]

Dannnnng almost a 20 minute discussion. You love to see it

[@eliguilmet62]

Nobody: Pat in every episode of every show ever: “Oh yeah, they’re all gonna die”

[@Kagarin05]

Joji ftw! (The name of our silent asian badass pirate)

[@GhostInPajamas]

I really wanted Eleanor to make it out of that, I didn’t think she’d actually die

[@animusswtor4822]

3:48 Suraj, I both hate and love you at the same time, that’s like a joke I would make , and you looked so proud afterwards but no one noticed

[@BhBc8f8]

Oh they did, probably just didn't want to give him the satisfaction.

[@alicethompson1385]

The Spanish raided Nassau twice & so did the English (I think!) & that pretty much ended all the pirates who were living on the island at the time, they all ended up taking all their stuff & moved to different countries or back home to England!

[@leah3801]

"That Asian dude in the back that's always doing stuff, who is he?" Those of us who have seen the ending of the show: ......... Shhhh let's not talk about this

[@bushidoblvck_]

I’m surprised that they still feel bad for Billy, most reactors just flat out hate him after the plantation fiasco. This is refreshing to see lol

[@pcgaming4944]

yeah, finally not all hate for billy lol

[@bushidoblvck_]

PCGaming I’m neutral when it comes to Billy. He just felt betrayed after everything he tried to do for the pirates, but at the same time he made a very stupid mistake because of his vendetta against Flint.

[@hamadou7]

Give it an episode or two and they'll hate him hahaha

[@ww12tt]

@@bushidoblvck_ in truth, it kinda feels weird hating on a specific person, since basically everyone in this show is a horrible person (with the exception of a very few). In truth i really do not get their hate for Woodes, despite the keelhauling

[@bushidoblvck_]

ww12tt yeah, Woodes was just as bad as the pirates. I can see why they would hate him because we’ve followed the pirates for so long and we saw things from their POV. He was definitely one of the most complex characters of the show.

[@PotatoMan169]

After you guys finish black sails - you have to react to a film adaptation of "treasure island". Any adaptation will do, including muppet treasure island and treasure planet

[@Omega4Productions]

12:11 Nah Pat, horses just magically teleported themselves to the Americas.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

With Eleonor I hated her since the death of Vane and it's a nice sting to Rogers that it was his fault that she died but I was a little sad of the Eleonor pre-Rogers, I wish she would have come back to the pirates' side. Esp. Flint cause they had a strong bound in the past and they never returned to it. All we saw was her and Rogers and Flint's tales of whathisname. Even though she died in Flint's arms, I was disappointed that the writers never went back to it. For one thing I never bought he relationship with Rogers, it happened way too quick to me. And when Flint gave himself up as hostage, I was exstatic cause I thought it would rekindle the Eleonor-Flint thing but never did. That said, I don't hate the execution and decision for her death cause the reason that this is a great show is that no character overstay their welcome, if their story ends, that's it. They don't linger like Game of Thrones in the late seasons.

[@sirajnakhuda5446]

the Japanese samurai name is Joji

[@michaelswigert1073]

Joji is the samurai pirate and the pirates and Marron Chiefs came to the Camp because they heard pirates took over Nassau that's why she didn't send the chest

[@Asticek]

sure he is you keep forgetting before the whole flint thing ... he was an officer in british navy

[@moomoopuppy508]

The Asian guy thats always in the scene, but is quiet and never really doing anything is Joji

[@MrCzerillo]

Spain and Britain are at war. They only joined Rogers to take Nassau because of the cache. Spain and Britain are not "together".

[@theblackwheelbarrow1562]

Lol at some of you feeling queasy about what happened to Billy. He deserved the beating, he could've gotten worse.

[@LC__15]

37:26 Ummm, so did you become a Ninja halfway through Season 1 Suraj? Honestly thought you gave up too as we couldn't see you then you show up in the Season 2 Premiere LOL :). Also, am so looking forward to your post discussion in the Series Finale and hopefully, someone from the cast will show up like they did in Blind Wave's Season Finale reaction and answer some of your questions too.

[@HNCS2006]

yes, one of those shows where the rewatch can be even better. I found season 1 more enjoyable on rewatch, picked up on a lot of things.

[@Lfeodorovna]

lol i didn't want it like this neither!i mean i get why they gave elenor this heroic death since she been around from the beginning it was still way too generous though-and yeah on top of nassau being a thriving place it was just a threat to the(british,french,spanish,etc)empires

[@sarahcoleman9912]

Rana’s this is why I like comedies 😂

[@williamjames914]

I forget which one y'all read treasure island, but know Long John Silver is the main pirate in the book so he cant die yet..lol

[@jacobb9236]

It was Mickey and to his credit he's usually quiet about it, or just goes along with it so they can feel that tension

[@Daesma999]

12:35 oohohoooohhh!! My fav scene! ❤️❤️ finally she DIEEEED! :D

[@Alexic94]

that yelling at the start of every video always hurts my ears, you dont have to yell guys

[@An3wutube]

Treasure Island will never read the same for you again.

[@hamzalachheb9612]

guys did u stop watching money heist ?

[@h0rr0rshow]

Sometimes Rackham sounds like Stewie.

[@jayandjlps8022]

The trailer for the live action ATLA just dropped omg

[@ms_scribbles]

Of all the people for Pat to simp for....Billy??

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

he's always like that on every shows, he likes to be contrarian, rooting for the bad guys Cersei, etc...

[@Omega4Productions]

@@johnnyskinwalker4095 He’s either painfully stupid or just a really bad attempt at a troll.

[@pcgaming4944]

jesus pat... that's all I can say

[@rkess5871]

Can somebody else please read the dang book so we can hear y'all talk about it lol. Mik's thirsty to do so

[@suleymanthemad1140]

I know i'm a little triggered here, but that dude next to Mickey annoyed me more than he usually does with his reaction to Eleanor's death. Yes it's easy to hate her, she has done some really bad things and many of the fans focuse solely on them. But such shallow judgment can't put a finger on the complexity of her character which makes her more human than anything. Going through her past, in a way, you can reason every choice she made. For me she is one of the best characters in this show filled with amazing characters. All i can say is: #LongLiveTheQueenOfThieves ;-)

[@Omega4Productions]

You’re referring to Pat, and yes, he’s super irritating with his idiotic statements.

[@SuperBigManBoss]

Hey guys! You guys should watch Dragon ball Z fall of men Live action. I think you all will like it. Everyone like if you think they should react to it.

[@aagnikop5961]

Pat you're a Joker🤡 Silver is the best

[@MrSecretSentai]

Pat is a troll

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

Sorry Rana, but I would've left Billy there. He may come back for revenge again Silver and Flint.

[@Galaxy7o417]

React to Black Clover

[@StormGuy7]

yall should watch one piece

[@nikolaiquack8548]

I love you guys in general, but I just can't with Pat sometimes...he is next level annoying and that's not even me bashing him, it's just how I feel.

[@Scamspam]

also why is he talking so fucking loud..

[@Omega4Productions]

And why is he so stupid? Like seriously, per episode he asks like at least one stupid question. “Can ships carry horses?” “Did they drag Blackbeard along the propeller?” “Wait, Blackbeard died?” I just can’t, man.

[@MrCzerillo]

"Is this the end of Long John Silver?" Read more. Please. Anything.

[@lvl5popcap]

Eleanor ordered brutal killings of many pirates on several crews, and deserved the same end. It's fitting that she got it.

[@juanitajones6900]

At the hands of a Spanish soldier? You might as well say the same for Vane, who died because he had brutally murdered Richard Guthrie back in Season 2.

[@lvl5popcap]

​@@juanitajones6900 I would say the same for Vane. I would say the same for most of these main characters.

[@dodapictures2141]

Billy sucks. Silver rules. Get wrecked Brown Pat.

[@Ryanlexz]

The whit* woman is so emotional. Lmao🤦

[@isaiahcox9787]

I mean it’s a sad ass scene

[@animusswtor4822]

The fuck you censoring white for? 🤣

[@Ryanlexz]

@@isaiahcox9787I know still sometime her reaction look fake as F

[@Ryanlexz]

@@animusswtor4822censoring? I only left out the e part lol

[@animusswtor4822]

Ryan lex yeah but why xD

[@Vialle1014]

Favorite episode.... Eleanor WAS the worst. 🤮