Squid Game - 1x8 Front Man - Group Reaction

[@Wakrar]

I saw a critique from a Brazilian reviewer with a point about the show that I actually liked a lot. It was that Sangwoo and Gi-Hun are pretty symmetric in a lot of ways. Gi-Hun would steal money from his mother to bet on horse races, while Sangwoo would steal money from his clients to do high risk investments. Gi-Hun would trick an old man with dementia in order to survive, while Sangwoo would trick an innocent guy who trusted him. The difference between the two of them lies not in the fact that Sangwoo do immoral things while Gi-Hun don't: they both act immorally multiple times. They differ, however, in the way they feel while and after doing what they do. Gi-Hun feels guilty, he understands what he did was wrong, he feels bad. Sangwoo don't, he uses logic and reason to justify his actions.

[@AT-rr2xw]

That is pretty interesting. With Gi-Hun, it eats him up inside while Sang-woo can rationalize anything if given a second to think of something.

[@alexjames4770]

I mean, to me, the difference is that Gi-Hun not only feels guilty, but draws a line that he will not cross. Yes, we as the audience feel bad about him tricking Il-Nam, but he’s tricking a dying old man, with no family and “dementia” who he basically saved the last 2 games. Versus Sang Woo is tricking a young man with 50 years of life ahead of him, a wife and a baby, who he was willing to let choose a bad shape for honeycomb, and arguably did more to help them win Tug o War. Not to mention, once they start losing at marbles, Sang-Woo darkens and shows his true colors, while Gi-Hun seemingly accepts his fate, until Il-Nam intentionally opens the door for him to save himself. I don’t particularly dislike Sang-Woo, I think he’s an every man, that we watch be changed by the game as it darkens his soul.

[@harshaeer6273]

In the second game, gi-hun would've told all his teammates what game it was if he knew, sang didn't, gi-hun would've jumped himself in the fifth game before pushing someone else, ANNNDD, he would've NEVER finished the girl in this episode

[@MrTomlette]

The compulsion of Gi-hun is emotional, while Sangwoo's is intellectual. Gi-hun is fucking his life because, on some level, he hates himself, whereas Sangwoo is just refusing to accept that he's not as smart as he thinks he is and that he destroyed his own life and that of his mother with his investments.

[@kirathekillernote2173]

@@harshaeer6273 Gi-Hun would've quit the game just to save Sae-Bayeok. I don't agree he would jump ahead of glass guy, because even he is not that stupid. Even Ali was not that naive, you would have to be certified retard to do that honestly. Gi-Hun would've most likely died by running out of time as previous participants (mentioned by VIPs). Sang Woo is the best player. He is not overly cruel like Snake guy, still ruthless. Gi-Hun might not like his actions because he thought highly of him, but he is also completely out of the game the moment he entered. Remember how Gi-Hun was joking around like a fucking child while Sang woo was only one focused on what game might be next

[@Kbanz198]

Sangwoos actor explained that he had a superiority complex. Him being "friendly" to ali was part of it. I think it was mentioned that the suit in the bathtub was part of that personality trait too

[@Mukatutu]

Really? I thought the suit in the bathtub was him just completely giving up on life and just lying in there in depression. Then the card popped in with the final opportunity to turn things around

[@rociodiaz3380]

@@Mukatutu yes, he was going to commit suicide. But someone who completely gives up doesn't care about how they find their body, they are dead. People like Sang Woo, people with a superiority complex, do tho 🤔

[@Mukatutu]

@@rociodiaz3380 That is true, but the dude was already wearing a suit no? It could also be that he didn't bother changing or taking off his clothes before going in the tub. lol.

[@Kbanz198]

@@Mukatutu the things i brought up were mentioned in a interview by the actor and director. They said going in with the suit and looking "presentable" made sense for his character, so they put that in

[@teferra444]

@@Mukatutu if you go back and watch episode 2, Sangwoo has his coat off when he is talking to his mother on the phone. After the call, he puts the coat back on.

[@jamesliggins891]

Sang-woo could have actually been asleep. Gi-Hun was banging on the door loudly with his back turned for quite a while before they came, it could have woken him up and moved him to action

[@hirvale]

Yeah, if he were pretending to sleep, it would be dangerous for him to close his eyes AND drop his knife. He'd be leaving himself open. If he were pretending, he'd leave his hand limp, but still in contact and ready to clutch the knife

[@abcd-mo5mo]

no i think he was actually asleep 😭🤚🏼

[@blueskybelyr]

I mean okay?? That doesn't make the murder Gi-hun's fault like????

[@siberboy100]

@@blueskybelyr not his fault but if he was sleep nd gi woke him up by banging on the door then, technically he did play a role into it

[@beluga_1776]

I think he was pretending, he is way too calculated to just sleep on the final night knowing the other two have knives, I think it was bait and he would have stabbed Gi-Hun if he got close

[@rgractor]

I don’t think Sang-woo was pretending, it seems more likely that Gi-hun’s screaming woke him up and he saw Sae-byeok as the easier target.

[@miracle_grrrl_mira]

If he were smart he would have gone for Gi-hun instead. But maybe he thought he couldn't get that far without Gi-hun potentially turning around and fighting back, or maybe he genuinely cared for him in a way he didn't care for Sae-byeok. He may have been telling the truth in the last game about his reasoning, since if she had lived much longer, her and Gi-hun would have probably voted to end the game.

[@BenJover]

@@miracle_grrrl_mira Definitely. He wasn't lying.

[@dwaynekeenum1916]

@@miracle_grrrl_mira Nah dude killing 067 guarantees money either way , killing Gi-Hun allows for a chance ( albeit a small one ) that his mom doesn’t get any money

[@KevinMoras13]

Exactly

[@HP-tw6tl]

These guys are so stupid with their speculations

[@Maplecakes1221]

The Front Man is Byung-Hun Lee, he's one of Korea's top actor and played Storm Shadow in the first G.I. Joe movies, Billy in The Magnificent Seven, T-1000 in Terminator Genisys, Han in Red 2, highly recommend Bittersweet Life which is one of my favorite movies of his.

[@breakwoodhopper6739]

He almost looks like a different person in all those movies I didn't recognize him

[@비에스-p1m]

Bittersweet life is great but I Saw the Devil hit me right in the feel...the ending in that movie with the music was just something

[@adrianoalves5829]

And he appeared in PSY's Luv It video.

[@zakariachaaraoui3869]

@@breakwoodhopper6739 i recognized him immediately idk why i feel like he's the 2nd famous Asian actor

[@breakwoodhopper6739]

@@zakariachaaraoui3869 I don't know the last thing I saw him in I didn't recognize him in magnificent 7

[@cristiangarcia1260]

"If she was dying anyway, why does it matter?" Keep him away from your grandparents people

[@alimurtaza6318]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was laughing on this for a solid 5 minutes. Man u deserve a like.

[@infam0usalal184]

If the guy reads Nietzsche keep him away from everyone

[@Bepractical1995]

😂😂😂😂 actually keep him away from anyone who know what happened if he predict things ...

[@리니-w5b]

STOPPP 😭

[@LMarti13]

actual psychopath take

[@melvinflores8957]

Kang Sae-Beok's last line "Mister, I wanna go home" 💔

[@maize09blue]

Sae-Byeok's last words of "I want to go home" hurt more when you realise that Gi-Hun would have immediately asked for a vote to stop the game after hearing those words from her. They would win by majority 2-1 and Sae-Byeok may have been helped and lived to see her brother again. Truly heart-braking...😢😢

[@tejaspaleti88]

Well, at that point, it would've been worse to end the game there. They'd given too much. The promise was a much better idea.

[@piabaretto1770]

The Glass Shattering at end of the game is programmed that way. It's for situation when there are still players on the Glass Bridge. Remember the Frontman was out of the control panel and didn't finish the game as he was distracted by the Police Officer thus there's no way for him to manually stopped the explosion of the Glass bridge. That's just really this game works and unfortunately 067 was an unfortunate casualty.

[@fojemo1661]

Yeah they could've avoided that if they crossed with plenty of time left.

[@MrDuneedon]

@@fojemo1661 Exactly. When I first watched that episode, though, I said out loud, "well, that's a cheap, bullshit move!" but then I realized just how close that these three contestants had cut it in terms of the timer. The bridge was auto-rigged to blow when the timer expired.

[@LMarti13]

I love when people say "that's just how it works." umm yeah that's the point, the game is designed with cruelty in mind.

[@BhBc8f8]

man fuck this game

[@Lord_Arcann]

I wonder if she said she was injured if she would have received treatment. For fairness

[@audrelordelore]

“she’s about to put that steak in her mouth and it’s gonna fall out that hole in her stomach.” 10:14 …the gasp that came out of my mouth😭

[@lovely1641]

Lol I was like dang

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

😂

[@pdeannn800]

like bruh- 😭😭

[@ScorpionViper1001]

"He's out of line, but he's right"

[@qbird3713]

😂

[@jdbarber13]

He didn't have to be pretending to sleep (probably was), but that amount of screaming and banging on the door would have woken anyone.

[@edo27]

thats what i originally thought. he was banging on that door screaming about her dying condition pretty loudly. theres no guarantee he was pretending to sleep

[@splinter360]

He wasn't pretending. If he was he wouldn't have dropped his knife and left himself completely susceptible to an attack.

[@kanzensaimin2257]

No way no one is sleeping when you're the last three and your opponents have knives

[@jdbarber13]

@@kanzensaimin2257 67 was sleeping but I will give her a pass with all the bleeding out.

[@cheekyboomboom8973]

I think there's no way he was faking. It'd be stupid on his part to risk the potential of both of them attacking him at the same time. Yes, he was totally woken up by Gi-Hun pounding on the door and screaming that Sae-Byeok was dying.

[@mrrd4444]

In-Ho seems to be like, a metaphor for becoming part of the system despite coming from the same low place. He worked hard to get where he is now, so instead of overhauling the system to be fairer, he just lets people suffer through what he suffered and lies to himself by saying it's "equal" - much like a lot of rich people who tell others to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" even knowing how inhumane the whole thing is.

[@lidiasanchez890]

"but what other choice does she have?" "not pulling it out" LMAOOO

[@ender413]

Not pulling out at that point doesn't matter because they are going to play a game which I would assume huge ass glass on her belly would have stopped her from playing. She immediately apply pressure to the wound anyway so it is not like medical help is on the way so she could just wait.

[@Sg6CrossOver]

That only helps if you're going to get medical help to remove it, if not u just fuc*** anyaway

[@creativeartivity]

@@ender413 Well the proper procedure is to leave it and stabilize it so that you don't damage any more tissue. The problem is she can't stabilize it in that situation and if she did make it to Game 6, then she would be absolutely rekt by that glass shard in her so you're right.

[@g.t2231]

how is she supposed to walk with that thing in her belly

[@moobu457]

sorry but yeah shes just screwed either way if she pulled it out or not

[@shanejameslogsdonlinebarge9660]

The reason the glass explodes is because I believe they wanted a negative for being last as well. Otherwise anyone who went last automatically won but if the glass exploded while you were still on the back of the platform you had a chance of being hurt. They mentioned at the beginning the VIPs say there are advantages and disadvantages to going first and last and any game and I think this represents that

[@mindwarr]

The disadvantage of being last was that you might not make it in time. The glass exploding is just a cheap way of killing off one major character.

[@NoName1462]

It was purely because the time ran out, they made it off the bridge in the last 2 seconds. If they were faster getting to the end they wouldn't have been damaged by the explosion, the explosion was there to finish off anyone who was still on the bridge when timer expired like previous games had other things.

[@BenJover]

@@mindwarr Both were the disadvantage as we obviously saw

[@joaks1969]

@@mindwarr The glass exploding was to kill anyone left on the glass. If it hurts people who amde it, who gives a shit?

[@KyleS3m3noff]

Korean shows are almost uniformly one-and-done affairs. There have been a few exceptions over the years, and even then most of those have been set in the world of the first season but not direct continuations. Now with Netflix producing kdramas as well, things are changing up a bit and the idea of multiple season shows are becoming more common (like Kingdom, also on Netflix, also top-tier stuff). But for the most part, they're usually self-contained singular shows. The funniest part about watching reactions to this episode is how one of the biggest shocks of the whole series barely even registers - having Lee Byung Hun behind that mask would be like it was a US series and it was Brad Pitt or George Clooney. Guy's been around for decades and starred in handfuls and handfuls of some of Korea's very best films - he's literally a living legend.

[@xero9ravity150]

yeah most foreigners wouldn't be able to recognize him, unless they're really into k-drama/series or they've at least watched gi joe lul. I was hyped when i saw him cause i loved him so much as Eugene in Mr sunshine I started to recognize his voice when he spoke english on the phone XD

[@Mr10before9]

It barely registers because at the point of the reveal, it is expected to be the brother...who portrays the brother is irrelevant to that point, as we have already seen photos of him. This could have been a US series and it been Brad Pitt under the mask, nobody would care amidst everything else going on the same way it occurred here.

[@KyleS3m3noff]

@@Mr10before9 incorrect, sir. Putting together that his brother is the Front Man is one thing, but the reveal of who plays him is never given away. Go back and rewatch the episode where he finds his brother's file among the players. It's the only file he looks at where the player's picture in the corner is obscured by shadow. The actor reveal is definitely intended to be a big deal because it is. You are straight up 100% wrong about both it not being a big deal since AND that they had previously given it away.

[@daniellegracedeguzman6171]

The explosion in Skipping Stones was really part of the game regardless of the result. Just like the shooting after the time is up in Red Light, Green Light. It just so happened that none of the players were still on the bridge after the time is up.

[@kevinmalone584]

I mean it’s fair Everything that she has done Led her to that exact spot At that exact time To get that piece of glass stuck in her

[@traylee9392]

Remember when Mickey thought the brother was that one guy that held on to Gi-Hun’s leg in the first game? Good times lol

[@Takara8tt]

To be fair that was my first thought too, considering how much focus they put on him in the beginning! Lololol

[@Denise-zx6ic]

@@Takara8tt think it was just cuz he's a pretty well known kdrama actor. Had to make use of him

[@Sephiroth766]

I wanted Sae-byeok to win after episode 6. This was devastating

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

I wanted Sang Woo to win, but only because he was willing to do whatever it took.

[@V_i_vi_an]

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 actual psychopath take.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

@@V_i_vi_an You should really look up the definition of words before you use them...

[@miketrujillo3677]

@@V_i_vi_an technically anyone who would play in the squid game willingly is some sort of psychopath, i liked him too, but like 70% of me wanted gi hun to win while 30% of me wanted sang to win

[@MadhavGKrishna-m6j]

​@@thelegacyofgaming2928 200%. My favourite character. He was the only one who did whatever it took. Like he said, these were people who they met a few days ago.

[@ykim0416]

Sang-woo comes from a place of supremacy. He is an elitist and the little bit of aid he gave Ali has a condescending aspect to it. You can tell by the way he gets outraged when Ali almost wins in the marbles game by beginner's luck. He couldn't believe this person who he viewed beneath him was beating him. But he used whatever means he had to win. Yes it was cruel and sociopathic, but that's where he comes from. When you're in finance at that level dealing with 100s of thousands to millions of dollars, you play to win. Every time. Ultimately when it comes to survival it is difficult to take a moral view and judge others in the way they survive.

[@AWSVids]

“Why’d they blow up the bridge if they knew it could injure one of the contestants?” I’ve seen multiple reactors ask this question now, and every time I’m just like, “What? What show have you been watching?” What about the show you’ve seen so far makes you think they would care? They probably did it HOPING it would injure one or all of the contestants. It was the final challenge of the game, simultaneously killing anybody who may have still have been left on the bridge, and potentially injuring or killing anybody who got across. The whole purpose of the penultimate game seemed to be to weed out as many as possible before the final game. It took out the highest percentage of players, by design.

[@andrewgarland329]

A lot of people went into this hoping it'd be like a Marvel movie where there would be Gi Hun's team vs. Deok Su's team at the end. I think this story is better because it doesn't pull its punches, kills off the fan favorites, and goes "what did you really think this was fair from the start?" It sticks to its theme and knows that it's painful for people to lose the flawless characters who did nothing wrong. That's why it works as an allegory for capitalism and a good story. In the first game people were twitching and got shot. 2nd game you were SOL if you got scared by gunshots and broke your cookie. The glass bridge just removed the illusion of fairness like "work hard and you'll make a lot of money."

[@ellemars1817]

Yep. This far into the show it's clear the whole "equality" thing if the Front Man is kind of bullshit -- him turning off the lights at the stepping stones, purposely engineering a fight to weed out the weak. If anything I wish we saw a bit more of the Front Man as the hypocrisy of his motivations are slowly revealed and he becomes undone after killing (?) his brother. As for the glass, if Deok-Su hadn't stalled for so long they might have had time to leave the room and get to safety.

[@Chi3fFox]

So if they did ended up killing all the remaining contestants how would they play the final game that makes the name of the show?

[@LMarti13]

@@ellemars1817 yeah and it's insane the mental gymnastics people go through to argue that it's equal

[@hamburglarrbond1232]

The whole premise of their game is “follow the rules & win the game, you’re good.” All the previous ones did that exact same thing. Even with the woman who didn’t get picked, she was spared. The girl didn’t deserve to go out that way. She followed the rules of the game and won fair & square. That’s how it’s different.

[@asoleieifretton7578]

Remember in Korea you’re mandatory to serve 1 year in the military so he could’ve done swimming training.

[@atkim122]

Some Front Man context since you seem underwhelmed by the reveal. Lee Byung Hun is one of SK's top leading men. His role is more of a cameo than a main cast role. Koreans who saw him after mask reveal would react similarly to us reacting to a Robert Downey Junior caliber actor showing up on a show we didn't expect him to be in. There's also a short/cute easter egg during marbles game when SaeByok's partner mentions mojito and quotes a line from a Lee Byung Hun film called "Inside Men" (although title of movie wasn't mentioned).

[@Ericairline]

The bridge game is based on hopscotch. You were wondering the connection to a children’s game.

[@AT-rr2xw]

That seems rather tenuous to me.

[@soberscrim299]

@@AT-rr2xw you can clearly see all the games they’ve played on the walls inside their room, it’s just all the beds were blocking the painted walls

[@RSK9903]

While that may be the rationalization for the game, I think this game is largely to weed out people before the final round because unlike the other games which rely on skill for the most part, this one is pretty much just luck.

[@Zbeast5972]

Literally was just wondering this, 2 secs later I see your comment, thank you.

[@AT-rr2xw]

@@soberscrim299 It may have been in universe and in the mind of the show-runner, but it still seems tenuous to me.

[@brxan3096]

I'm fairly certain that Sang Woo wasn't pretending to sleep. He really was dozing off & the knife even slipped out of his hand. It's the noise that woke him up when Gi Hun was trying to get the guards to come in & help Sae Byeok then he saw his opportunity to take her out.

[@eLmasten1991]

Im surprised they havnt noticed the walls in the sleeping room yet. There are pictures on the walls of all the 6 games played. They have been there since ep.1 but as more and more beds are removed they are easier to see. 06:13 green light red light

[@afatsackofflour5519]

Yes yes we've all seen that video explaining things you've missed In squid game

[@staticmonkey8436]

15:00 “they don’t get dental” HOW DID NOBODY ELSE CATCH THAT?! I had to pause because I was laughing so hard!😂😂😂😂😂

[@a---------------]

🤣

[@sernation]

I feel like Chris really gets the point, none of this was EVER fair 😔

[@daringroses]

Because life can't ever be fair

[@harshitasingh601]

@@daringroses and your name says opposite...

[@sufesa8597]

The Front Man, Lee Byunghun was in "G.I Joe" as Storm Shadow and Billy Rocks in "The Magnificent Seven".

[@thatkamz]

The Magnificente Seven is so good and his character is super cool

[@lsi2448]

t-1000 in terminater genisys

[@habib-al-aziz]

I love his performance in Mr. Sunshine

[@sufesa8597]

@@thatkamz True. I loved it!

[@kwek2243]

Me Sunshine as well

[@mksongbird]

so cool to see Lee Byung-hun as the Front Man. incredible actor. (not for everybody but watch him in I Saw the Devil) also Lee Byung-hun is mentioned by Ji-yeong during Episode 6 "gganbu" when she is talking with Sae-byeok on the steps about where they would travel to.

[@AT-rr2xw]

Lee Byung-hun was the first South Korean actor whom I noticed from Joint Security Area, the first South Korean film that I watched back in 2005. The movie that Ji-yeong referenced, Inside Men, is a bit of an odd pick for a woman who probably spent most of her twenties in prison to think up, but I am not surprised that the showrunner wanted to include it somehow.

[@mksongbird]

@@AT-rr2xw i have not seen The Fortress but Hwang Dong-hyuk directed that film and Lee stars in it so i wonder if that connection had anything to do with getting him to appear in Squid Game.

[@AT-rr2xw]

@새벽 Also...of all the movies that she could have referenced...well, whatever. That movie was released shortly after the Lee's blackmail scandal, which, while he was the victim, it still was a bad look for him. The portrayal of women in that would have rubbed me the wrong way even without the completely unconnected scandal, but it did no favors. That said, the movie was very popular for its type and I am sure that Squid Game's showrunner had no problem with its treatment of women.

[@AT-rr2xw]

@@mksongbird Ah...I have heard that The Fortress is very good, but perhaps a little alienating for non-Koreans. I guess that I will find out if I get to it.

[@witcherye]

right?? I first saw him when I watched the 2013 G.I. Joe movie lol

[@zutara]

despite how immoral they may be, every decision sangwoo makes is completely rational and thats what i love about his character.

[@OceanHedgehog]

Sang-woo seems ruthless, but he does what most people would do in order to survive.

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

You could say Sangwoo is the most human character in the series.

[@thetruth997_]

Logic>emotion That's why Ali died cuz he was stoopid

[@EasyWinking]

@@thetruth997_ he wasnt stupid, it was because of the cultural differences and he simply lacked an understanding of how things were working. he trusted his friend in the game..

[@astherieIIemercadejas]

in most games maybe. but during honeycomb game, idk what's rational abt not telling ur friend the game when he already knows the low chance of survival from choosing umbrella.

[@fojemo1661]

Sang Woo wasn't pretending to sleep. Gi Hun was literally banging on the door and shouting. He even tipped toed his way to Sang Woo just so he wouldn't wake up. Sang Woo woke up because of the noise, heard what Gi Hun was shouting about Sae Byeok and finished her off.

[@rickyricardo9710]

Yes, he was. He's not an idiot or narcoleptic, he wouldn't fall asleep when he can clearly see his two opponents talking to each other and looking at him from across the room.

[@kosmikos_]

@@rickyricardo9710 He also wouldn't drop his knife if waiting to retaliate against an attacker, as he becomes vulnerable and loses his element of surprise/deception by having to reach for it. Besides, you can only ignore your body for so long; they've been running on barely any sleep, and were just fed a real meal - their bodies want rest

[@sgcastle8389]

The glass was supposed to break there was a timer, they won at the last second and were there when the count went to zero, it was an accident. Also Sang Woo didn't pretend to sleep, Gi-hun woke him up by knocking at the door to save her.

[@laylammorais]

Exactly, for every game when the time was up, everyone who stayed died. The glass breaking would be for the remaining participants on the bridge (if there was any, which there wasn't)

[@deee6095]

Thank you! I dont get why everyone is overthinking the glass explosion. The timer ran out and that’s for anyone who’s still on the bridge. Just like how the people who didn’t finish and cross the line with Red Light Green Light got gunned down.

[@Mukatutu]

How do you know he didn't pretend to sleep? It's Sang Woo here, not Ali. lol. He could've easily been playing possum to get Gi-Hun to fall for a trap.

[@kosmikos_]

@@Mukatutu Because he dropped his knife, leaving him susceptible to attack and losing his element of surprise by having to reach for it if Gi-hun approached him. He wouldn't intentionally let go of his only weapon if he were faking

[@Mukatutu]

@@kosmikos_ That doesn't prove anything, he could easily have dropped it on purpose to lure Gi-Hun in, knowing full well Gi-Hun's character and assuming that Gi Hun would hesitate to stab him. We also have to remember that Sang Woo probably underestimates Gi Hun heavily and doesn't see a possibility of actually losing to him. I'm not saying that it's impossible that he was actually asleep. It's possible sure, but it's also equally possible that he was pretending. But yes, it's likely that he fell asleep, woke up when Gi Hun started banging on the door, and sliced Sae Byeok. But I think it's completely possible that he was pretending as well.

[@bryancarson5908]

“Guys never mind” I felt Rana frustration with their lack of logic sometimes 💀

[@JGil23]

Patrick really said he did it to end her suffering... like have you payed attention to see what kind of person he was lol

[@DragonZazikel]

Front Man is Storm Shadow from GI Joe movies :)

[@abelcollado1711]

How did you write this a day ago if this video was just released?

[@thitran1362]

@@abelcollado1711 I think they have to reupload it or something of copyright strike?

[@cardona9448]

@@abelcollado1711 it goes to Patreon first doesn't it?

[@Ronythereditor]

I thought he looked familiar!

[@abelcollado1711]

@@thitran1362 But they would have to rewrite their comment.

[@anthonyd.8067]

People forget Gi-Hun would probably be dead if Sangwoo didn’t talk some sense into him and point out the clock was ticking down in Red Light Green light.

[@YourDadYoda]

But also could have easily told him to not choose the umbrella

[@moona3206]

Ali saved him as well

[@Karma-pq9fi]

“His brother won that’s coincidental” Yep definitely a Kdrama.

[@A-Dubs398]

I know it's typical K-drama tropes, but that was too dumb and coincidental for me. Why does the mysterious character always have to be revealed to be a person related and/or have history with the main character? I would've been fine with the Front Man being some rando the cop never seen before, that's more realistic too.

[@Rakerong]

@@A-Dubs398 Yeah. At least it wasn't like he won last year and now he joins the organization the next. The man won 5 years ago, and seeing as how he needed to play the game he was probably another deadbeat or downtrodden who seldom spoke to family. He was barely around, and didn't seem to live the life of luxury. He still lived in the same small apartment which he paid rent for. The unrealistic thing seems to be the cop being so determined to find him that he'd go to those lengths to infiltrate alone. He didn't even try to get other trusted cop buddies to help, he just went in alone. It was cool at first, then you realize how unrealistic it becomes lol. Then the big reveal at the end you already predicted it so it falls flat.

[@asongoftales]

*Normies finally understanding that posting everyday for the show they've binged works for the channel too instead of making people wait for weeks and then the videos end up getting lesser views every time*

[@Diana-zl3ue]

Especially if the show is very popular

[@nbucwa6621]

I'm seeing blind wave do this right now (also squid game) and I can't be bothered to watch their videos because of it. It's honestly way easier to wait till they've dropped all the videos in a month or so and then I'll binge it *if* I'm still in the mood.

[@ThanatoselNyx]

It only works when a show is the new hotness and Netflix. Most shows are old or weekly.

[@L.L.Cool.T]

@@nbucwa6621 yeah I think BW Is trying to save it for the Patreon. They posted a comment saying you could watch videos 4 weeks ahead of the normal channel if you’re one of their Patreons, so it may take a month for these SG reactions to show on KZbin. I’ll be on a new show by then!

[@atin4353]

Yea like milk it when it's hot and trendy, its a win win for both parties

[@bracejuice7955]

The front man being the brother was glaringly obvious. There’s no reason to assume that he was just the frontman for this game, he won in 2015 and was recruited after, and has been the front man ever since

[@TheOttomatic91]

Genuinely surprised you guys didn’t figure out who the Front man was to me it was pretty obvious when he found the cops ID on the dead body on the beach, the front man looked at it for a suspiciously long time. When the cop infiltrated the VIP room as a waiter and that perv VIP kept coming onto him it repeatedly did a close up of the Front mans face and finally before the final showdown the Front man accurately talked about many bullets a police gun would have, that last part made it very apparent he was the cops brother.

[@loco_logic]

After seeing how they felt about the Front Man twist, now I'm really curious to see how they felt about the The Host's identity.

[@chickenblunt]

I know I hated it

[@thisismyname8642]

@@chickenblunt same but once i rewatched it i fucking love it because of the bits of foreshadowing i spotted but still it couldve been handled much better

[@resurgingflame]

@@thisismyname8642 I feel like they already handled it pretty well. Too much hints will just make people suspicious & guessing around his identity when his reveal was supposed to be a shocking plot twist.

[@chickenblunt]

@@thisismyname8642 Sure, the foreshadowing was clever I guess. But it completely diminishes the emotional goodbye from the Gganbu episode on rewatches.

[@YourBlackLocal]

While I enjoyed it, it didn’t really add anything to the story…. Or it took away more than it added.

[@sifu2u_now]

Lee Byung-Hun is the actor as front man here. You most likely have seen him I Hollywood movies like GI Joe, as T-1000 in Terminator Genisys, one of the Magnificent 7 (2016 version) with Chris Pratt, Denzel Washington and Ethan Hawke, also in Red2 with Bruce Willis and John Malkovich...among others.

[@ximienlundquist8487]

Sucks for me because I haven’t watched any of those movies. Would have been cool to be surprised

[@notmesy3905]

There’s a belief in SK that when Lee Byung Hun is one of the nominees for a certain acting award, he’ll probably win it. I recognized his voice during ep 7 but I was still hyped up when I saw him in this ep.

[@eastboundtraveller6322]

If the girl was still alive, she and 456 would be the majority if they decided to end the games. 218 would be the only one who wanted to come back, thus they would never restart and he'd lose everything. By killing her, the vote is split 5050 meaning the games must go on. It's a horrible thing, but he wasn't killing for the sake of it, he just was playing to win in the most evily efficient way.

[@bh1746]

The Front Man is Lee Byung Hun (one of the most famous actor in Korea). You guys should definitely watch "I Saw the Devil" and "Bittersweet Life".

[@nsan48]

Front Man is Byung Hun Lee, who plays Storm Shadow in the GI Joe movies and Billy Rocks in the Magnificent Seven.

[@AvatarJaijai]

Wow I have to say Sidney has been absolutely killing these edits, love the close ups you’ve been using!

[@stiofanmac3376]

''Front Man'' is (Lee Byung-hun) the star of ''i saw the devil'' 2010 one of the best serial killer/revenge korean films ever made also staring Choi Min-sik (old boy) the fact that zero reactors from any channel recognized his face when he took his mask off is telling of the lack of korean cinema knowledge it was a big reveal to korean viewers and fans of korean cinema.

[@xero9ravity150]

i've heard of i saw the devil heard of how fucked up it is and i'm not ready to watch it ;-;

[@boblol2279]

​@@xero9ravity150 Yeah

[@laurab8734]

Suraj singing the Lost jungle theme was brilliant haha!!

[@sangeethsreerajk.j8381]

I was about to comment😂

[@ej8867]

The Frontman is Lee Byung Hun - one of Korea's most famous leading men. I first watched him in a great action thriller called Iris.

[@danielruiz8259]

Also i saw the devil

[@ej8867]

@@danielruiz8259 Need to see it asap.

[@blueblade6174]

Pat, why are you being harsh on Gi-hun for thinking of killing Sang-woo over how dark he's become but you're being apologetic for Sang-woo murdering Se-byoek??? (This IS NOT an invitation for Pat haters to slander him)

[@MaineManDezzo]

4:47 Omg that’s exactly how she said it lol like she had an accent 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that dude is really good

[@duggs4456]

She does have an accent

[@tommy-_-2883]

The brother didnt go missing in 2015...he went missing a couple of months ago in 2020 that's why he wanted to find him at this time..it wasnt "all of a sudden"

[@mishalkhan8151]

The brother (police) has not been looking for In-ho since 2015. In-ho went missing only week ago (since the start of this most recent game).

[@atkim122]

Exactly. When Jun Ho is first introduced he's phone talking to his mom while driving and reassuring her he'll file a missing persons report on In Ho the next morning. That sounds like someone who hasn't been heard in days, not years. Presumably In Ho returned to his life after winning 2015 but kept his wealth secret from family, opting to live in a modest inn to keep his new identity secret (as front man). It feels like he developed a cultish admiration for the "equality" of the games and got recruited, and running the games became more important to him than spending the money.

[@lalalarose8197]

Just let them have their stupid theories.

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

It's funny that Gi-Hun was eating steak at this special dinner -- the same meal that his daughter ate for her birthday.

[@jennym2276]

I don’t think he was pretending to sleep but out guy woke him up trying to get her help banging on the door.

[@qwdddw]

21:35 the actor is called Lee byung heon and he appeared in some hollywood movies like G.I.Joe, Red the legend, Teminator Genesis, Miss Conduct, Magnificent 7

[@dojo999]

Yall, thank you so much to the Normies and all their video editors! I've been itching to examine this whole show closer, but none of my friends have seen it yet. I appreciate you guys uploading these reactions on what I assume is an accelerated schedule. Dope discussion.

[@fabainful]

I believe season 2 might be a prequel and cover the front man back story and season 3 might be where gi hun and the police return to close the games down.

[@lovely1641]

They could do both honestly. They did 2 separate stories in one season

[@jimnemesis]

Loved Suraj doing that Lost “climbing theme” when Jun Ho was climbing up too :)

[@pnobodi5341]

I love it whenever Suraj finds a way to make a Lost reference. Even if he's just humming the music lmao

[@nicepunk00]

Frontman is a spitting image of Mads Mikkelsen from "Hannibal", that's who.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

But Korean

[@2009kein]

the brother is from GI JOE

[@mangerinegirl]

YESSSS Suraj coming through with that Circle reference! I had the same thought while watching, it felt like the last night of that show. My thought on the glass thing is that it was preset to go off when the timer stopped in order to get rid of any players still on the glass bridge. I don’t think it was intended to hurt those who had already crossed, they just happened to still be right there.

[@TheHutt0326]

I saw somewhere, the difference between Gi-Hun and Sang-Woo is one tries to win by being better and the other wins by making others losers.

[@ev1Lsect]

It took a while, but you got to reacting more than anticipating to every turn in the show. Plays much better.

[@091696g]

22:19 rana channel her inner ric flair San - WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Rated_RMN]

Remember in the first episode Gi Hun's daughter was saying her stepdad took them to a steakhouse, using the steak as a symbol of "success" and now Gi Hun gets to eat steak after succeeding at reaching the final game. Nice parallel Also well done >>>>

[@odgykins]

Gi-hun puts the knife in the pocket like that deliberately to show Sae-byeok that he can't quick grab it from his pocket and that he is not trying to harm her.

[@RukiMoogle]

Honestly in regards to the glass in her side, I think they did that on purpose because the next game is played with an even amount of players.

[@kingambrose9919]

yeah a lot of people are convinced there can only be one winner, and I think that's true but I think technically you can have multiple winners but the people running the game will do whatever they can to make sure thats not the case. It's very carefully designed to make sure its a 1v1 at the end

[@joshualopez7035]

But it can be played with teams, as we saw at the beginning of the first episode, or they would have had to play in a round-robin style tournament against each other

[@mjs752002]

Except, they have no way of knowing where the glass shards would go, or how many people it would hit. (I'm assuming by 'they', you mean Front Man + co.)

[@PolarTundra655]

no way of guaranteeing that it happens to only one person and not two, three or none

[@som3bode577]

I don't think so, because most of the games are timed and therefore also eliminate players that don't finish. In this case, the platforms would explode underneath for those that didn't cross in time or would probably get shot if they kept going even after the timer reached zero. No one would really know that a big glass shard would end up in one of the contestants, that was just bad luck and bad decision on her part by pulling out the glass shard.

[@sugalee09]

The bridge blew up because it was rigged to blow when the timer hit 00:00. They barely made it on the last second but the timer still hit 00:00.

[@davidyodo24]

It's Lee Byung-hun, we have seen his role on various Hollywood Movies

[@lsi2448]

terminater

[@fojemo1661]

In Ho is Lee Byung Hun, actor who played Storm Shadow in GI Joe. He was also in The Magnificent Seven

[@tonybankse]

Never have I watched a show where my heart just breaks for some of these characters. Such great storytelling.

[@AntonCherniavskyi]

"We don't know where or when the island is" - Suraj is the best, man

[@tylerboyce4081]

10:05 Well-Done solidarity, Rana. I'm not eating that meat until it *looks* cooked.

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

Sang-woo wasn’t pretending so be asleep, Gi-hun’s banging and yelling just woke him up

[@rickyricardo9710]

yes, he was

[@EatDIrt-fm3xn]

My theory is that the frontman is playing the longhaul as an undercover cop. He wants to take the whole thing down, but he understands that it will take awhile and there will be many sacrifices. Kinda like what Askelad did in Vinland Saga

[@jennym2276]

I think he is just an asshole. I can see sang woo taking over that job once he loses all the money he might win.

[@pottop880]

That's such wishful thinking, but I'm with you. That would be an awesome twist for the front man.

[@splinter360]

No chance. He'd have more than enough evidence at this point.

[@Alchemistic88]

He wasn't pretending to sleep, he fell asleep and woke up when Gi-Hun started loudly banging the door and shouting at the guards for help... clearly.

[@LMarti13]

I never got the people who thought Sang-woo was pretending. That's one of those things where if he was, the writer would absolutely include dialog to confirm it later.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Also nobody drops the knife if they're pretending, because then it's pointless

[@dunzhen]

I'm sure he was pretending....Sang Woo is too smart to let himself fall asleep with two other people holding knives clearly plotting against him

[@dunzhen]

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 He still would have plenty of time to pick it up, it's not like it fell on the floor. Gi Hun would then be isolated from the partner he was clearly plotting against him with since Gi Hun came to him. At any rate Sang Woo is too smart to let himself actually fall asleep with two hostile people with knives

[@madebymali6758]

It’s not coincidental. He’s a detective and has been looking for his brother. His decisions led him to find him. That’s not coincidence. That’s what happens when you spend five years looking for someone lmao

[@2nd3rd1st]

I'm here wondering if the Normies will ever peep the games on the wall that were there from the very beginning.

[@pandorawombat]

Sang-woo wasn't pretending to be asleep, he was asleep. But Gi-hun woke him up with the banging on the door.

[@ma.sheenaloyola1155]

The Front Man is Lee Byung Hun. He is in the movie, G.I Joe.

[@xgfreedom]

When the cop found his brother's profile, the profile said frontman was a cop too.

[@DigiCount]

Obligatory "it's not blood, it's myoglobin" comment re: steak

[@lombax316]

Pat is definitely the Barney Stinson of the group. He even roots for the "bad guys" every time.

[@Manikandan06]

You guys didn't notice the drawings on the wall. All the games are in the wall but hidden because of beds

[@at_oussama]

Stupid plothole

[@haridaspalleeri6765]

@@at_oussama you don't know what a plot hole is then. A plot hole is something that shouldn't happen according to the rules set within that world. And nothing of that sort was done. Please 12 year old

[@svensei5643]

I love it when a Show actually count Bullets

[@lovely1641]

12:30 I don't remember a game called Knife Fight as a kid

[@kuramamastah5270]

6:45 Love when mc-san gi-hun gets sassy even knowing his place as a Shinju

[@billytessio6326]

24:45 This is an interesting discussion on the essential nature of man. All of these people were put in abject desperation to stay alive. Your true nature is revealed in times of crises. While Sang-Woo, the pride of SNU, devolved to killing people while using deception to stay alive, Gi-Hun was helping people like Il-Nam and Sae-Byeok while using his resourcefulness to help himself in the process. Both outcomes are very human responses. We have no idea who we would be like if we were put in the same position. We all would like to think we would be like Gi-Hun, but to deny to Sang-Woo's humanity means we're denying the inhumanity in us all.

[@creativeartivity]

Is it their true nature though? I feel like true nature is arbitrarily defined and has no real value. I think he was just put into a circumstance where he felt forced to make a decision in order to preserve his own life. Had he not been in this situation, and had help throughout his path in life, maybe his "true nature" would've been different. But idk

[@smb19732003]

"Do it in the game!" They are in the game, the entire time.

[@mehlev]

I mean but this isn't a surprise, Sang-Woo has been ruthless af from the beginning.

[@Karl_Drogo55]

yeppp thats what Im saying lol

[@randomlyrj7900]

I think Sang-Woo was honestly falling asleep, he must be as exhausted as Sae-Byeok and Gi-Hun, but Gi-Hun's yelling woke him up and he took the opportunity to off Sae-Byeok.

[@Narutojutsu98]

Sang Woo still is the best character in the show ✊🏽

[@loco_logic]

Absolutely. Everything this dude did was pretty damn compelling, positive or negative.

[@hdwarrior6304]

My goat fr

[@nyeishaclark95]

He's definitely the most compelling for sure and I understood every decision he made, and honestly if I was going into these types of games I would have went into them with his mindset, although I was rooting for SB to win though, I mean I understand why he did it but damn I didn't want her to go out like that lol.

[@jamesliggins891]

boooooo sae-byeok supremacy

[@nyeishaclark95]

@@jamesliggins891 Hey don't get me wrong I was rooting for her to win the whole thing, but as a character? Sang-Woo was far more interesting.

[@atleastdecent3810]

The man who plays the front man is a really famous actor

[@nigooli5930]

Now that you opened the door to the world of korean series i recommend you other interesting shows : "strangers from hell" it messes with your head and does a good job at inducing the feeling of being trapped. it has mystery, crime and horror. "Mouse" is a crime/thriller which is built around the question "What if we could sort out psychopaths in advance?" It's pretty fun to watch and keeps you wondering. Actually there are a lot of good korean dramas with solid acting out there and I'm so glad squid game blew up so now people are finding out more about them.

[@CodyCha]

Guys, the cop's brother was also police (pretty high ranked) till he joined the game in 2015. So there's some connection or corruption between the game and the police ranks.

[@GGEUDUCK]

SouthKorean viewer comin through! Main character name is pronounced Sung GiHoon (성기훈) Smart young friend Jo SangWoo (조상우) Cool girl Gang Sae B + yuck(Byeok) (강새벽) Thug guy Jang DuckSoo (장덕수) Annoying girl Han MiNyeo (한미녀) Its just how they are pronounced :)