Game of Thrones/ASOIAF Theories | AGOT Arya II | Breakdown & Analysis

[@jessewilliams9195]

What broke my heart was Arya rebuking her dad, after Ned said that Arya "looked like Lyana." Arya replied, "But she was beautiful." As a little girl, Arya has in her head that she is homely.

[@matematicarka]

holly F that’s what “homely” means??

[@thisguy8106]

Oh.. I wish the Septa would get talked about more.. Some bullies are teachers.. And some of us have experienced what it's like to have a teacher truly have it out for you.. And GRRM seems to have flushed that out with the Septa..

[@thisguy8106]

Arya and Sansa are gonna have some stuff to work out eventually. I'm ready for THAT conversation.

[@shannond7437]

One that doesn’t magically lead to Sansa being the smartest person Arya has ever met!

[@laurabryan6938]

Hopefully an true apology from sanda to aria

[@fenixchief7]

I fucking love the dichotomy of Arya and Sansa's relationship.

[@IngTomT]

Well-grounded black sheep vs. superficial golden child? Yeah, that's a classic.

[@ivanbluecool]

Arya who sees layers upon layers of people Seeing the complexity of the people while Sansa looks surface deep on people and keeps getting used by everyone. Looking forward to the kings landing content as a lot of the characters get forgetten for Ned's and Robert's deaths when the small details are what make the story interesting Seeing the sides are already formed or forming around Ned

[@ashleyofnaath]

I always love getting tidbits about how Ned ruled the north. Despite what he thinks he does so exceedingly well, which is pretty incredible considering he had zero coaching as that would've gone to Brandon. Not to mention Rickard died w/Brandon so there wasn't any guidance after Brandon passed...it was just 'next man up'. And Ned f-ing killed it. Love him🐺🖤.

[@darkmafia666]

i think that is because of how the north raises their kids. honor is praised. know the people that serve you and they will love you the more for it.

[@thisguy8106]

@@darkmafia666 Idk.. Bc..what if Ned had perished but Robert still won the throne, and therefore Benjen became Lord of Winterfell.. I honestly don't think he would've been as good at it as Ned was. It's crazy how much Ned actually went through..

[@ashleyofnaath]

@@thisguy8106 My thoughts exactly. I don't know if even Brandon would've been as good w/Rickard's coaching. He was too much of a hot head and could be provoked into things that Ned wouldn't be. Also, I don't get the impression that Brandon Brandon would've bothered ingratiating himself with small folk like Ned did.

[@thisguy8106]

@@ashleyofnaath I agree, 100%!

[@VenusianVirgo]

Arya chapters are my favorite and that exchange between Arya and Ned is definitely beautiful 😭

[@shawnlewis2519]

I've always loved Ned's line of "even the lie was not without honor." Normal thinking would be to consider telling a lie to be dishonorable but surely Eddard was thinking of his past and present, the life and lies he chose to live for the sake of honor.

[@DarkrarLetsPlay]

A lie can never be honourable.

[@eduardoapolinario7687]

@@DarkrarLetsPlayLet's say if an intruder is inside your home, and asks you where your family is hiding, you should tell them the truth??

[@DarkrarLetsPlay]

@@eduardoapolinario7687 No, tell them nothing.

[@patrickdematosribeiro1845]

@@DarkrarLetsPlay What was the honourable thing for Jon to do when Quorin ordered him to infiltrate the wildlings? Refusing meant he would break his vows accepting meant he had to lie. There are situations where everything you can do is somehow dishonourable and lying can be the least dishonourable thing.

[@eduardoapolinario7687]

@@DarkrarLetsPlay If you know where they are, thats lying too, isn't it? You see? Thats what Martin implies, there is more nuance to beeing honorable than "just ALWAYS tell the truth".

[@girliealmighty]

I’m usually not a fan of the Arya chapters, but you guys have consistently helped me see the complexity and depth of characters so that I can better appreciate all this! Thank you!

[@BurkeanMama]

I love these analysis videos, they're are some of my favorite Green Hand work. But I do miss "Let's Do This."

[@EPYHDA1]

Several things: First - I am not sure I understand the people who claim that Sansa's character "grew" through the series. Her take on the tourney in the Vale is almost identical to the one she displayed in this chapter; Baelish just has a better ides how to operate a Sansa :). Second - Ned did an absolutely remarkable thing by setting Arya with an exceptional sword master - more than his father did for Lyanna: finding this master was the most successful thing Ned accomplished in King's Landing and it is quite incredible, although the fact that Arya can tell the accent, indicates that there were people from Free Cities visiting Winterfell. Third - Syrio was an exceptional teacher - in Bran's vision he sees that Lyanna was beating Brandon in swordplay, while Arya, being older, never managed to beat Bran. As a personal note: I teach fencing this year, and having he students to get a correct en guarde position is a challenge enough, and as a reference to a "dancing master", I had the most success with a girl with a ballet background :)

[@IngTomT]

I agree, the only difference is that now she's gaining some manipulation skills herself with Sweetrobin and she figured out how Petyr manipulated the Lords Declarant.

[@angorarabit]

That's quite interesting to hear about the correlation between ballet success and fencing stance sucess.

[@maekarsmark5402]

I JUST re-read 'Alayne's' last chapter in Feast...it hit me this time around just HOW MUCH she is like to become more and more like Petyr.....whom, I wonder.....IS he her dad? Sweetrobin is clearly his son.

[@mheyer5353]

Love Arya, her chapters are so good

[@peteperkins3859]

Arya's my favorite character in the entire series with Daenerys a close second. I would love read an entire series with Arya as the main character.

[@conniesuper9892]

I love the interactions between Ned and Arya❤Brilliant in the book and comes across poignantly in the show.

[@angorarabit]

12:00 Poor Arya, you have to feel for her being treated so poorly by Sansa, Sansa's friend, and Septa Mordaine. 13:45 that mocking voice for Septa Mordaine was just hilarious

[@natie3322]

I think hard times and being bullied make you a better person usually. And being flattered and living soft make you a worse person usually…but I think some people with strong natures stay good or bad no matter what. That’s what’s fascinating for me about Sansa. Has Sansa suffered enough for her nature to change in the end or is it fixed…? And Aryas Will seems strong… in the end how much can she change? If Sansa and Arya truly come together in the end It has to be because Sansa has improved… but CAN she?

[@BurkeanMama]

Years after this, Sansa is STILL blaming Arya for Lady's death. So no Sansa hasn't learned, hasn't changed. Sansa is as selfish the last we saw of her as she was when we first met her.

[@Cole_E]

It's interesting to consider that Lyanna might have been more like Sansa than Arya. She was wilful and bold (we know that from Meera's story about the Knight of the Laughing Tree) but she was clearly something of a romantic. She cried at Rhaegar's music and I feel like the whole notion of playing a mystery knight is quite romantic regardless of the intent behind it. The more I think about it, the more she strikes me as what Sansa could have been if she was a little more Northern and a lot less concerned with becoming a carbon copy of her mother.

[@laurabryan6938]

Arya is so cute I hope that someday she finds happiness and is able to feel safe again

[@PhilHibbs]

Given Arya’s love of studying people and learning about them, if only there was an organisation dedicated to that she’d be perfect for it.

[@peteperkins3859]

I picked up on Dave quoting Ned about Joffrey, that "Theres something wrong with that kid". Maybe a little seed about Joffrey's parentage?

[@KristaHarrisSB]

Do you think the deep connection between Jon and Arya that George alludes to is a remnant of the original outline that George planned where Jon and Arya ended up together? Just wondering. Thanks again for doing these deep dives, you both do such a great job with them, each of you bringing something unique to the breakdown.

[@BurkeanMama]

Ned should have given Sansa that lecture about being family and acting like sisters. He knows Sansa lied, and he does nothing about it. It is just more of Ned's refusal to stand up for what is right. He wants peace in his family, so Jon goes to the Wall and Sansa is allowed to lie. Ned's refusal to deal with Cat and Cat Jr. destroys everything Ned stands for.

[@forcesmuggler7667]

Ned only telling Arya about the Lone Wolf thing but not Sansa sort of feels like Stockholm Syndrome. Love your abuser, when she doesn't give a damn about you.

[@vineshpatel9516]

@@forcesmuggler7667 I've always thought Ned sucked at parenting when it came to Sansa. Like he didn't know how to connect with his daughter which to be honest is really sad looking back, it's like he let her go when he killed lady.

[@CristinaGarcia-xx4gy]

Can I just say that I've always hated Septa Mordane? The favouritism she shows Sansa is appaling, being her little teacher's pet can't have been a good influence for sure. Ned sadly did what many fathers did and still do: he trusted the mother would know what was best. They don't always do. Having a Septa is a southern custom, Winterfell didn't even had a sept before Ned had one built to be nice to Catelyn, I highly doubt Stark girls had septas before, so Mordane being hired was all Catelyn and all her teacher feedback would go to Castelyn only, since in a society like this a girl's education is solely the mother's area. Yet another instance of Catelyn failing has a mother and Ned puting more trust in her than she deserves. Ned is a good dad, but he's so busy all the time, even when he was Lord of Winterfell, let alone King's Landing. Makes me sad when I think of it.

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

Its becausensana is a typical andal girl while arya is not

[@thisguy8106]

@@wolfsbanealphas617 but it goes waaay beyond that.. Septa Mordant is not only unsatisfied that Arya isn't a typical *Lady* but she also doesn't like Arya one bit. Which is horrible for any "student" who is in a situation like that. Teachers like her exist in the real world and that sucks..

[@angorarabit]

Now that you mention it, Sansa telling Cersei, the queen and sort of a teacher for Sansa in that she's an example of a queen, could be seen as playing the teacher's pet, only having far, far worse consequences for the Starks.

[@atrusraine3661]

Thanks for uploading!!

[@shanenolan8252]

Thanks dave and Mary Ellen

[@TomOostenrijk]

It's sad that you can start these recaps in 2022 and still be done with it with time to spare,before and if WoW ever releases.

[@BurkeanMama]

😢

[@11101983omega]

Hello guys.

[@peteperkins3859]

The last comments from you guys about Aryas personality being normal in The North, seems to be lost on Catelyn and Septa Mordane. I'm reminded of the Lord of Winterfell that welcomed Queen Alysane where he described his wife killing a wolf and making a cloak from it.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Oh no! I'm 2 weeks behind! The good thing? Binging!

[@CharlieHorse-b8t]

The line about “wolfs blood” leading to an early feels like foreshadowing to me. I think with other clues we get it means arya will die young

[@nikolasmoore2252]

Very disturbing that Cersei got away with murdering an innocent butcher's boy, which (in contrast to the equally heinous murder of Lady) was *against* Robert's command.

[@wibbly8011]

So do you think Ned knew exsactly who gave Arya Needle? Bc he has to know it was either Jon or Robb and he also likely knows Jon is the more likely.

[@salvadorrodriguez3798]

Is Tbskyen the guy talking?

[@v8dagreat824]

8:52 💪🏾

[@peteperkins3859]

Starting to think Syrio is the Kindly man wearing a face.

[@Oliver-zy8sq]

Arya wishes Jon was there and the one person who is probably the most like Jon in the world - Eddard - appears.

[@HAUEhuaheau91]

Hey hey people

[@HxH2011DRA]

Szeth here

[@shannond7437]

My 9 year old little girl is both wonderfully and frighteningly Arya. 😹 Hoping the observant will pays off in the end for both!

[@SHARKVADERS]

OOTGH!!!!!

[@mattkyokowilliams9841]

Yes!!!!

[@KokettaKnowles]

Arya is a Stark...Sansa is a Tully...

[@KokettaKnowles]

And....having a female warrior would be good if "Winter is Coming"

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

🐲🐲🐲🐉🐉🐉

[@user-bk9bs3oc8c]

Y’all what if Arya is Robert’s daughter??? I thought first that she might be Petyr’s but honestly what if it’s Robert??? Omg

[@dasha8920]

I think you should do a series sansa sucks

[@BurkeanMama]

They did so a Sansa sucks video.

[@ptptpt123]

Never liked fish-eyes in the show. But I love the book horseface much more.

[@KingMonkeyII]

👌🏽👌🏽