Interesting Japanese Stove - Fore Winds (Iwatani) Compact Camp Butane Stove Review

[@marzsit9833]

i've owned one of these for 20 years and it still works well. the legs and pot supports are no problem, hold the folded stove upside down and let the pot supports fall straight down, then unfold the legs. flip it over and the pot supports flip into place easily. i can do it in the dark in 2 seconds. fuel cans in my area cost $1-$1.50 in a 12-pack at asian stores.

[@campmansoutdoors6927]

I understand your frustration with the legs and the pot supports. However as you mention it is extremely reliable and to me that's a big plus. The legs and the pot supports are a minor inconvenience in my view. But yes I can understand how it might frustrate you LOL if I didn't have enough little stoves already I would definitely buy it. I do prefer the size compared to the tiny ones that I already own. The only thing I do not like is the price I think it should be around $60 or less.

[@MegaSusanc]

Naw, if I want a big stove, I want a big burner to go with it . Why carry around something thst big when it's going to act as a small stove?

[@ThePricansaint]

I conquer!! I rather have a reliable stove that takes a few more seconds to set up than one that is very unreliable. Legs and pot support is the cons......WOW!

[@Altinfish]

Where are u guys take this price? amazon for japan 35$ for this gas stove, delivery to CIS 8$

[@gated320]

I don't see the big deal setting up and breaking it down...COME ON LUKE!

[@herdeefrancisco9161]

Bought an Iwatani stove and used it for camping and I guess I forgot to clean after going to the beach. After some time, I opened it some parts has minor rust and after cleaning it looks like new again, I never thought I could use it for a month as primary stove when I newly occupied my flat and really couldn’t beleive it’s performance. Life changer stove! Iwatani, made from Japan, I couldn’t ask for more 🫡

[@warren6899]

From South Africa...Relax..... chill... it's not a speed contest, enjoy the outdoors

[@steeveplante4590]

I've been using this iwatani stove for over 29 years. Still going strong. I have a smaller plastic case that fits perfectly in a small pot, in my case a Snow Peak pot. Absolutely recommend... I do live in Jpan though so all prices you mentioned are much lower here.

[@jcnikoley]

I don’t really see the legs and the pot supports being that big an issue. I don’t care that the company over priced the gas, like you said, you can get it anywhere for cheap, you’re not limited to the cans they sell. I think your criticism of the burner size is legitimate, but I’m rolling my eyes at the other stuff.

[@jeffmatthews3798]

I like the ‘fiddle factor’. I’ll hand it to someone else and enjoy the show. If it is humorous, let it be. If the company’s butane can attachment isn’t proprietary it isn’t an issue. I’m a canoe camper. My kit is a little heavier (just a little) than a backpacker. The size is not an issue as long as durability is good, and that package looks durable. Thanks Luke. Appreciate your reviews. Your occasional suffering is our benefit. 😎

[@rodh2168]

I think you are being too picky about the pot supports and legs. Looks to be well made and functional to me.

[@zancrus9629]

This feels like the one review where I felt like you had to nitpick to find something to come up with a negative on this. Those legs and pot holders in now way delay the setup enough to be a negative.

[@seanboyffld11]

Everyone has their own opinions. This is his. Maybe you would like the design, he doesn't. Doesn't make his opinion wrong.

[@Meibeon]

@@seanboyffld11 he is nit picking though , loads of Japanese anglers use them no issue

[@davidhintz1806]

Yep, the time on the legs was only 6 seconds while he was also explaining it.

[@reyleondelaselva1789]

I don't see it as a big issue, but I could see myself playing with this stove "puzzle" at camp. Trying to beat my own times on how fast I can set it up. Lol!

[@davidbrankley1645]

Don't know why I watched this video, except that I watch nearly all of Luke's videos. I already have what I consider the best solution to my stove needs. A very lightweight, very easily packed Chinese stove for iso pro fuel cannisters, made of titanium that I bought over 6 years ago from Amazon, fits my needs whenever having a fire to cook on is inconvenient. It cost me less than $20. When it fails to cook I hope to replace it with something similar. It doesn't come with any bells or whistles. It won't even light without a match or lighter, but I can live with that. It weighs nothing, packs very small, and always works. It has a dial to control the flame. Turning it gets you from simmer to high heat in just a second. Why would anyone ask for more?

[@Jeff-jg7jh]

Heck, I think the legs ect. would be a fun game to play. Once you learn it you can show off to your friends.

[@jamesellsworth9673]

I believe YOU are UP FOR the leg-folding challenge!🤩 I have used Iwatani restaurant tableside stoves and culinary torches for years. They have gone the distance in camp and for emergency use at home. I would put up with the legs, as the system is easy to figure out in regular use. More important to me are stable pot supports and pretty good windshields.

[@Tenkgard]

A bed of coals in the Wolf and Grizzly firepit, ambiance glowing, warming a dutch oven full of stew. Off to its side a Firebox twig stove, grilled skewers crackle and hiss, simply seasoned with salt and pepper. A top the low table a Coleman tabletop stove on low flame, kettle sits alight a sake warmer and server ready to pour. The camper, watches the fading flame from the Esbit folding stove, its small fuel tablet lasting only 12 mins, just enough time to cook a mess tin of rice. "A few more minutes, and I'll be able to fluff the rice." he turns to his daughter. "You must be hungry after all that running around you did earlier." His daughter nods, and looks out towards the firepit, the sparkle of the coals reflect in her eyes, "I bet it'll be yummy!" The place settings are ready, and the camper gets up to do a last minute check on the stew. Japanese style car camping. It is not a backpacking, or hiking stove. It is mainly used for kettle pots, Trangia style mess tins, and Sierra styled cups/bowls. Many Japanese camping dishes are very simple, and well suited for the Iwatani stove, such as a serving of steamed rice in a mess tin, miso soup, simmered/boiled dishes that take less than 10 minutes. Many Japanese campers will have a wood stove/brazer for grilling, smoking, or longer than 10 minutes cooking, at the same time have a fueled stove (butane/propane) hotpot/table stove like the Coleman 1 or 2 burner Camping stoves. Yet still have the Iwatani/Fore Winds, BRS3000, JetBoil, Pocket Rocket, SOTO G ST-320 style stove(s) for boiling a small pot of water, for coffee/tea or to heating a retort pack, (e.g. Instant Curry Packet) to go with their mess tin steamed rice. Japanese have a mindset of using the proper tool for the task at hand. I've watched many a Japanese camping video, pull out multiple types of stoves, braziers, etc for a single over-nighter. The Iwatani stove has its purpose.

[@bernettaebanks1182]

Thanks for the unbiased review. As always you are very fair. Some things that look small to others are very big issues to the one who puts on their pot and looses everything on the ground.

[@JongSnow27]

setting up the pot support, go counter-clockwise, then for folding them down, you have to raise one support then go clockwise.

[@kiwaiica]

Don't mean to be rude but I think you've lost your touch. I don't see any problems with the support legs, it only takes a few seconds to fold/ unfold.

[@CrazyCranker]

Pretty much spot on review. I have the same stove. I agree the legs are a bit fiddly. At the end of the day it's a solid stove that has never failed me. Just to note, the Iwatani version here in Japan comes in two versions-FW-CS01-JP and a Junior model CB-JCB. $32.06 and $24.81/I think mine is the Junior model that comes in a green plastic storage case. :)

[@kapegede]

You fold the legs and pot support on a wrong way. Let it hang upside down, then it folds and unfolds much easier.

[@PhantomObserver]

One thing that does have to be mentioned as an advantage: the fuel canister. Simply put, a butane canister is available at more places than the isobutane cartridges used for most small backpacking stoves (for example, Asian grocery stores will usually have butane canisters because they sell butane stoves to do hot-pot). I wouldn’t want this to do thru-hiking but I can see this being used for casual weekend summer backpacking.

[@wing4ever]

In my opinion, the pros are major and the cons are minor (except the company’s price for their brand butane…I agree that is a rip-off). But your major con, the setup and breakdown of the legs and supports, why are you in such a hurry? Is an extra minute or two when you are supposed to be out in God’s country relaxing THAT important? You even stated the QUALITY and FUNCTIONALITY of said supports and legs was excellent. In the end, I ask what are your priorities? I do love your reviews, they are very thorough, leaving plenty of room for the viewer to form their own opinion…thank you and keep them coming!

[@terrym1065]

👍👍 Luke, think you're being a little hard on this stove. Price is a concern but not out of reason with similar stoves. Iwatani is a major mfg in Japan, their stuff is like Snow Peak or SOTO..expensive but quality. Turn the stove upside down and shake it, maybe the supports and legs will auto deploy..who knows. Folded it's fairly small and the case is nice, easily could fit in a pack.

[@thomasm8699]

My thoughts exactly....think outside the box. Act outside the box.

[@Alpha_fitz]

Many interesting camping things from Japan.

[@markh5889]

Good review. I doubt I would find the legs and pot supports as irritating as you do but I can see your point.

[@SawnyRath]

For back packing I like it in theory: small enough, reliable, for boiling water and rehydrating it is what I would look for. Setup/take down is meh but not a deal breaker compared to starting a fire. The price point I'm not sure about but might splurge for reliability.

[@kwhatten]

Iwatani makes good stoves. I worry (probably too much) about the fuel being so close to the flame. Check out another high quality (high price) Japanese butane canister stove, the Soto ST-310.

[@luketoh1]

Hold it upside down, sharp twist to get the pot stands in place and and flip up.

[@davidbones8947]

That leg folding thing is no big deal! Im going to buy one for my motorcycle travels perfect

[@MichaelRussell-go3xh]

Thanks Luke - as always a spot on review with no BS. I have been looking at butane stoves and I’m going to add this baby to my stable. Those fiddly legs are so charming. Like a lot of my backpacking gear I pick a stove to fit the trip, my mood, and dare I say it - for entertainment. Nowadays I’m just boiling water to make instant coffee. Keep those reviews coming!

[@janetburrows137]

It looks fine too me and it’s more stable than any of mine. ❤😅

[@earlshaner4441]

Good afternoon from Syracuse NY Luke and thank you for sharing your adventures and equipment testing and sharing the facts and truth which I enjoy very much

[@janetburrows137]

I don’t mind the pot supports or legs. A couple of times and you won’t notice the fiddling at all. 😅😊

[@rogercarroll8764]

For boiling water, the best solution for backpacking is a simple alcohol stove. Alcohol is easily obtained from a hardware store. Why bother with butane?

[@richard_n]

The cons weren't relative for me. The supports and legs wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

[@ShoutOfCoffee]

Cheap foldable wood stove is better solution. For 20 euro you can cook, grill and heat your tent. But it just my opinion

[@danwoods871]

Why not tip it upside down to set the pot supports?

[@MikeJones-qi5ki]

I'm glad you picked that idea up, as I was about to suggest the same, especially as the stand appears to be free swinging, let gravity do the trick.

[@freezinweasle1]

Watching how loose the pot supports are, could you turn it upside down and allow them to dangle straight down, then fold them up? Just wondering. As always, thank you for your review, stay safe and God bless.

[@tlembro]

I see it is made by IWATANI…..they are a great Japanese company! Lived in Japan on and off for10 years….still use some of their products…… decades later I have never had products.They are a little pricy though! Thanks for the review.

[@arsumbris6392]

I laughed at your complaints, derisively. I couldn't believe those were the complaints.

[@hokudadog7637]

I like this stove. If I needed one, I’d buy it. The ergonomics is something I’d have to learn, but it’s not a big deal to me.

[@dennisdaly1957]

$80, For that much I wouldn't buy and small stove. I can find a cheaper stove that does much more . I think in your review you hit the nail right on the head.

[@Andarilho1974]

You can use butane cylinders in good stoves made for isobutane cylinders, it makes much more sense. There are two methods for doing this, two types of adapters. I have both in my BOB. The first is an adapter that has a folding tripod and a fuel inlet hose, you attach the butane bottle to the fuel hose, open the tripod and screw your isobutane stove onto the adapter. This method is good because the bottle stays away from the flame and you can place it outside the wind shield, if you use one. The second method is an adapter that you fit to the top of the butane bottle and then fit your isobutane stove to it. In this method the stove sits directly on top of the butane bottle. There are stability problems. But it is very easy to solve the stability problem: you dig a hole, bury the butane bottle a little bit more than halfway and compact the earth around it.

[@simonjones6225]

It's an excellent peice of equipment

[@gweniawilliams6815]

Thanks for the video. I don’t know too much about little burners but these comments on the scene. Apparently somebody does. Thanks for the video again and I enjoyed it. Catch you on the next one.

[@00Klingon]

My local REI is selling that same brand of Iwatani butane for $3.50 a bottle. Slightly more than the other brands but not by that much. $15 is crazy.

[@Jimmynitro76]

I almost crapped my pants laughing when you said they wanted $80 for that stove.

[@deanhockenberry9268]

Sorry but picky picky picky. It takes all of five seconds to manipulate the pot supports and this garners your angst?

[@DarkMetaOFFICIAL]

it does seem annoying when considering the point of things like this is to make things simple, easy, and not frustrating. when i have to do an annoying thing, i have to always be aware of, every single time i use it, and it keeps getting in the way while being unnecessary, that's something i choose to own, i would ask why am i choosing this then? i would get rid of it. why not be picky? why choose 90% happiness over 100%? for what? make that make sense tho lol

[@alaroony9890]

I could deal with that if it was $20. But $80? Ouch.

[@PaulBeetge]

Nah this isn't an issue

[@garystone9973]

Considering the stove folds so compactly , I call this a non-issue. The size of the case is an issue. Many similar stoves have a smaller size. I would not call this a disappointment, just one I wouldn’t choose.

[@KELLIS-kz3th]

I honestly don't see much difference with this than any other stove with similar pot support most you have to fiddle with and move other supports to get them all out to me it's not a big deal it's one of them thing at the beginning it seems annoying but after a few uses you get used to it and not a issue.

[@donfong8872]

Thank you for reviewing this stove. I would like to see a comparison between other similarly sized butane canister stoves to warrant your frustration with this product. As other stoves using the same type of fuel are either bulky or unstable for pots or cups (3 pot stand versus the 4 on this stove) that I have been looking into for camping. Given the size it's a minor inconvenience as space is a premium on hiking trips.

[@jakobreed6090]

This is way off topic but I don’t know what it is that makes me ask this question . I was watching a older episode and you were talking about boxing . If I may ask ( why did you have a deviated septum? ) . I have one . I got mine from poor life choices but have lived a good clean outdoor life for years . Witch rolls in to thank you for your work here it has and dose save lives. Thank you Jakob Reed

[@thomasmusso1147]

The Pot and Leg Supports are an issue? C'mon .. Price .. it's made in Japan, not China. Quality looks to be very good. I like it.

[@PaulBeetge]

Nah. I like this. I don't find anything irritating about this. I think you missed a good review here Luke. The setup is really not that bad.

[@heidih2887]

agree it seems to be filling a "niche" that doesn't really exist. Those bigger stoves for "car camping", and the much lighter/smaller iso-butane stoves for hiking/backpacking... Don't really see a situation for this "in-between" size, especially considering the cost.

[@PaulBeetge]

I'm actually irritated by your review

[@nicholasjessing3212]

I appreciate the analysis and agree that my money could be spent in better ways. Especially how expensive items are these days. It's definitely not worth 80. As for the legs, that's an easy learn, not too frustrating. But I agree with the end portion of this video. With prices today, you really have to spend smart.

[@doctorartphd6463]

Great presentation ! Overall....there are other less expensive stoves out there. Nice stove. Setting up is no big deal. One cannot be too picky about the set up and unfolding - that's just being absurd, Luke. Don't make a mountain out of a moe-hill. Can the butane from other sellers fit this stove ? That would be great. I agree, the Iwatani butane costs are INSANE.

[@tnpis4me]

Might make a good truck or utv stove. There are much better, smaller, cheaper options for your pack! Great video! Thank you!

[@BackroadFreedom]

Thanks for talking about this. Love all the reviews you do. I have bought some things in the past after watching your reviews first. Have a wonderful day my friend.

[@MegaSusanc]

I have to agree with Luke. Those legs and arms would be a pain in the butt especially when you're cold 🥶 I know when I get to camp after hiking all that way and I just want to settle in and get warm, the last thing I want to do is fiddle with a camp stove. Plus the burner is way to small to cook with a bigger pot if you don't constantly stir it you will burn the center. And even with stirring it still burns ugh. So I rather find something better for the price. Thanks for the awesome review Luke.

[@Jeffnismoser]

At this price and this size I can have a well tested Jetboil who boil my water in under 1 or 2 minutes and i can pack all for it in a small package! And jetboil are around and been tested for a long time and work great!

[@obg6467]

Hey Luke think origami when you mess with that one 😂

[@Crabfather]

There's something about this that I like. With enough time, the puzzle would become Second nature I think and it does what it does well.

[@SoupyOatmeal]

What I found was because the burner is a small diameter the heat is concentrated into the middle of the pan and the center of the pan becomes a lot hotter the the outside. That means for cooking non liquids you burn the items in the middle and undercook the items on the outside unless you spend total time tending the cooking. All else was good , a stove is for cooking.

[@Worsdier]

Setting up this stove seems like a lot less hassle compared to most alcohol and wood stoves.

[@andreasseyffer]

Great show mate good to see out door gear being reviewed, my only criticism is sun glasses on whilst talking to us I suppose 30 years in the Australian military as Sergeant Major has made me abit grumpy but it’s not the done thing. Keep up the good work

[@henningratjen4364]

To all the negative comments about Luke being picky. He didn´t say he hates the stove. Just that he wouldn´t pick it because the unnecessary fiddeling and the burner being to small, for the size of the stove. It means, its not good for real cooking / fancy meals, but also heavy for backpacking. Its good quality but it doesn´t bring the functionality i would ask of a stove for either backpacking or car camping.

[@chillindave1357]

The killer for me is price... "puzzle gear" has never been my favorite, but it sure gets the conversation going over a few cans of barley soda 😉

[@soniayoung7531]

Hi Luke thanks for the review, stay blessed

[@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397]

If/when the company is reputable and a stove is reliable... for the end user in suitable environments/conditions it's a win/win. I'd overlook the 'fiddling' sequencing of the pot supports and support legs if/when beneficial pros are highly functional to stability and befitting intended cookware. In my view this stove has multi-point 'grasshopper-like' overall design attributes for stability = should be quite good. The overall size and weight are more or less middle of the road... not to overly burdensome, yet not an ultralight. For some users in less demanding conditions; the type of butane canister is widely available and typically inexpensive. That said, I much prefer isobutane/propane mix canisters or propane... and importantly favor threaded canister types. $80 may be a stretch for this stove. On the other hand, cheaper butane fuel sourcing might quickly factor into long run savings.

[@alexanderweaver7066]

I love my Coleman Peak One and the cheap BSR stoves. If I were to buy a Japanese stove it would be the Soto model you use frequently. Eighty dollars can purchase several of my stoves which I love.

[@twflanker]

I had a similar one bought in japan for 40~45usd during my first ever bicycle camping trip 6 years ago. It comes with hard square plastic case not as well made as this. The igniter do failed sometimes due to the stove bouncing around in the hard case causing the ignition needle unable to maintain proper gap to the burner rim. It's pretty robust even after years of use, and it's low heat is good enough for rice cooking. ( but not as fine tuning as SOTO's stove). also do mind that butane doesn't work well in low temp.

[@benterwellen]

Doesn’t look like a bad stove, it would seem that your critical comments may be kind of tough

[@246810335]

I think that if a company tries to charge that much for it's butane gas cylinders, I wouldn't buy anything from them, including the stove.

[@rthompson884]

I agree with Luke. I have NO patients trying to assemble anything when I am camping, and especially when I am in a hurry to get camp setup and something to eat. Maybe the puzzle is deliberate so you can work up an appetite for your meal or to kill time instead of messing with FB etc. Too bad the pot arms are not color coded or numbered so you know which one goes next...and it is too expensive, my price point would be NO more than $40 USD.

[@olddog610]

There nothing wrong with that stove except the price. Four seconds with the legs. What's the hurry?

[@janetburrows137]

I would put that in the back of the car. Use it on day trips and use in on the beach. Mum, dad and I have always used a cooker on our days out. We always had a great view. 😅😅😅😅. Better than a cafe. ❤❤❤❤

[@UrbanGrrl69]

I’d rather spend the little extra for SOTO 310 which i know you have and looks and performs way better I assume. I have quite a lot of stoves and always end up using my favourite one all the time, the BCB Crusader MKII. Do you have a favourite stove that’s is your go to every time…?

[@chovue2363]

Fidget stove burner! Looks like a fun piece!

[@Slow_poke_hiker]

Greetings. I have a question about your con on this stove? Isn't that the same mechanics of a BRS stove?

[@larryfisher7056]

Exactly, what I was thinking....

[@valdius85]

I would say Look is really exagereting the issues with legs 🤣 It is one of my favour outdoor channel. Keep up the good work.

[@jetodeocampo9072]

i like the stove...already bought the cover attachment for the canister. Kovea has a similar stove, the Kovea Maximum stove. Also there's the Iwatani version. It comes in a plastic case, not the storage case. but cost around $35-40.

[@jplamb77]

Morning Luke,,,, Thanks for your thoughts and opinion’s on this stove,,, Although,, Iam definitely looking for a Car Camp butane Stove., single or double burner. Could you please do a Review on these types of Stoves. I’ve seen You using them on some of your Truck camps,,,, Sincerely,,,, Joshua

[@Xenthosis317]

It seems like it's well constructed and sturdy and for that alone I think that fiddling with the legs and spot holders could be worth it. However, I agree that the burner size is too small and it brings up a problem with its use case: what kind of camping situation is this really for? In a park and camp situation, where one wouldn't be worried about the weight or size with the propane tank, the burner is too small for group cooking. In long distance hiking you could benefit from the stability and quick boil time, but then the weight and size are more of a concern. I'd rather go with a light alcohol stove or a wood burner kit if I'm gonna carrying everything on my back walking miles a day. If I'm cool with carrying more bulk cause going to hike in and camp in one spot, I'm building a fire for the evening so what do I even need a butane stove for?

[@DannyBoyOutdoorsTravel]

The pot supports or legs do not pose a problem to me at all, once you figure it out, it takes only literally two seconds, btw, a monkey can figure it out, it's not a puzzle. The real problem should be the price and the fact that it looks big for a stove in backpacking.

[@granitesand78]

Everyone in the comments mad but stuff like those legs and supports are annoying and no one wants to use annoying gear. I get it. It’s tedious to watch. As an example, the legs on my Optimus Polaris are excellent and satisfying to use. It’s a valid critique.

[@nickhayley]

The pot support fiddling? Nah man. You're clutching at straws. Why is that an issue?

[@TheTubePoweredOne]

I get the impression that the reason their butane has such a high price is due to it potentially being imported,meaning it's got a lot of fees involved. There are a number of hobby-grade sprays from Japan that I use when I build model kits, and they're quite expensive in the States compared to their list price in Japan.

[@Twistdflinx]

That thing makes sense to me. We as Americans have very large cars. What if your car is a kei car. Or something small like that. You may not have room for an American car camping stove.

[@bigstick5278]

Butane at Sam's club 4 for under $9.00. Come on Luke When your in for the night Setting up a tent takes more time.. It is goofy but it's easier than a Rubik's Cube..

[@musicbill]

I bet if you hold that upside down and let the potholders hang down, they may fall into place with little effort.

[@rickwendell3211]

Great review as always! Luke, thanks for what you do! The "windscreen" looks like an electrical junction box! 🤣😂

[@fillupinchrist07]

who cares about the pot supports. thats a very common design and not really as bad as your making it. reminds me of the bad infomercials with people purposefully struggling with easy tasks

[@christopherdawes4414]

Most folk have a stove or two. Not 15+ different stoves that you have used over the last few years. On that basis, the legs are something you will just get use to after a trip or two. The rest of the review I agree is fair, but to call it a disappointmnet is a bit harsh I feel. If it performs the function and is well built from good materials I would say 75%+ from the get go.

[@jillmondt5398]

Looks like something you don’t want to fiddle with before your first morning coffee, I’ll give you that Luke.🤣

[@thaivue2644]

It’s called patience

[@robertstrohm2412]

I like your content so I’m adding a comment, along with a like, to help you with the algorithm. Keep the content coming.

[@sg7392]

Good video but the stove doesn't meet Australia criteria. Must be able to set up and use without dramas on your own drunk in the dark. Cheers Steve from Aus.

[@theoriginalrabbithole]

Awesome review. 👍

[@michaeldean4704]

Thanks for your reviews, Luke. I really appreciate, and trust, your unbiased opinions. As for the Four-Winds stove; What matters most to me are quality, performance and cost. I could overlook the fiddliness of the legs and pot-supports. But at $80.00? That's a bit much. I agree that there other options, that are just as good if not better, for less. Because I'm disabled, and in a wheelchair, I'm strictly a car-camper. I have a single-burner propane stove (the kind that screws directly onto a 2lb bottle) that I bought used over 20 years ago and it still performs extremely well. Possibly the best $5.00 I've ever spent... for camping gear. Then last summer, I bought a Coleman Butane stove for $30.00 and I'm very happy with it. If I have any compliant at all, it's only that the plastic carry-case seems a bit chintzy. Though I must admit it's held up well so far. But then, I've only been out with it a few times. We'll see what it's like in four or five years.

[@nekoghostgunner1129]

The pot supports and legs wouldn't bother me at all. The biggest con to me is the size of the stove and size of the canister for it when backpacking, so I'll stick with my SOTO windmaster for that. Nice review as usual Luke, keep it up.

[@bigstick5278]

The canister is lighter than a Isobutane canister. It's also narrower in size and cheaper in bulk, , but it sucks in cold weather.