The WEIRDEST Heater You Have EVER Seen - FireMaple Sunflower Stove and Heater

[@paulanderson388]

I really appreciate your videos and in depth reviews of many products. You have saved me money by your recommendations. Thank You.

[@raym6764]

I have this heater and purchased a propane and butane adapter and it works perfect. For 2 person camping in a tent this heater works pretty well, I ended up modifying the grill a little (by ending it out, creating some tension) so now it doesn't come off as easily. I've been impressed so far, some of the flack this heater/stove gets is reasonable. Great review none the less!

[@jbcprolightning]

Another way of looking at this stove is it's going to spread heat more consistantly across the fry pan unlike most stoves that burn your food to the centre of pan. As a heater maybe they intended it to heat your hands. Looking at it this way I like it.

[@Funkteon]

I've used a Trangia spirit burner inside a Polish Lavvu to cook my breakfast and it heated my tent to almost 20 degrees Celsius within 5 minutes, so if a Trangia spirit burner can do this, well, this FireMaple stove/heater would likely heat a small tent pretty rapidly. My concern, though, is people's lack of understanding of carbon monoxide poisoning. This thing should ONLY be used in a well ventilated environment, whereas a Trangia spirit burner isn't putting out enough flame to suck up the oxygen and gas out a small tent compared to what 230g of isobutane can do to an environment if fully used up.

[@Mapleaple]

I think the cubid you showed us that uses butane seems to be the best most compact option for heating besides a buddy heater which are larger and only use propane.

[@volhv1973]

Butane is useless in high altitude and lower temperature

[@galeparker1067]

​@@volhv1973I love my little one burner butane stove. Canisters are the size of can of hair spray...... 🤣🤣(remember those......🤔). The SECRET is when colder weather 2 canisters (at least). One installed, one in yer armpit.... Keep swapping out...... Propane definitely better in cold weather. 👃✌️🥰🇨🇦

[@educational4434]

Just keep a can in or under your sleeping bag. Then heat the space with that can. Then the other cans will work too. Simple.

[@sierraridgereaper]

Place it in a vestibule or ground blind and it will heat your space in minutes. As far as cooking, it probably works fine. You can use it in a tent/vehicle as long as you have ventilation. Its obviously not for everyone but still useful for many. Id buy it if I needed one.

[@jeffvanburen1167]

Appreciate your review on the sunflower I was actually thinking about purchasing. I wasn’t sure radiant heat was good for my uses which you proved it would not be, thanks keep up the good work.

[@patcheezy1985]

Ive had my FireMaple torch for years! Love it

[@SeaOfLuv]

This channel is my favorite review channel of all time. Thanks Luke - Mrs. Huse of California

[@WarriorofChrist87]

I was just desperately thinking of what to watch then the algorithm come to my rescue with another awesome episode from outdoor gear review and I haven't even watched this channel for like a good 6 months so I have a lot of good content to watch thank you Luke!

[@karenstein8261]

I like the idea. My biggest gripe about cooking is that too many stoves create pinpoint hot spots, which make cooking difficult. Nor do most stoves allow for the lesser heating you need to simmer noodles or rice. Does this stove use a catalytic bed, like a Coleman heater?

[@206dogg]

Looking good Luke 👍 I wish you could review for me and my family a good backpacking “pack” & maybe a video about different PU Water P ratings. nylon vs polyester and so on…

[@SASQUATCHTHEORY]

Thanks brother i need something for my snugpak cave tent ⛺️ come out and camp and sasquatch with me one day.

[@bigstick5278]

Lol!! Luke, You couldn't resist.. 😆🤣🤣 Cheers buddy, Pete

[@steveturner3999]

I bought the Fire Maple Saturn stove based on your review and actually used it for the first time today. Took forever to arrive but I love it so far. Heated water with it today for a first use and it did great. Nice and sturdy for accommodating larger pots. The Sunflower looks like a not so good compromise for either stove or heater. Thanks Luke.

[@NikLindsey2050]

0:53 me personally i just like the looks of the bag 😅😅😅 sleek and modern

[@jefflunt9615]

I used to backpack in the San Juan Mts of Colorado when I was younger. One thing I found out quickly was the altitude makes a huge difference in boil times. Maybe a quick mention of your testing altitude would help us folks out in Rocky Mountain country. Thanks for all you do.

[@zerocool212121]

For elevation in our area your better off for the reliability using liquid gas stoves imo, expecially if you go when it can get cold. Best for cooking msr dragonfly best for bombproof that you can cook on msr xgk ex harder to cook on. These are way cheaper to use long term less than 1/8 the cost in fuel using white gas and even cheaper with other fuels. I would get the silencer for them as it makes them super quiet. I take mine camping/ice fishing at 13-14k without worrying if it will get to cold,windy, etc to work. I keep that and a firebox stove best combo for hiking or to have on hand in emergencies,power outages, etc. only takes maybe 30 seconds to get them going vs propane being instant on but a much higher cost of fuel and if it get to cold propane wont vaporize

[@tk72231968]

I don't think it's a bad product, but it's way overpriced for what it does. Also, the grill/grate problem is such an easy fix for the manufacturer....just a notch in each leg for them to lock into the holes....such a shame. Great review and looking forward to your next review/use of this one.

[@bigstick5278]

A Dremel with a grinding tip is ones friend in the situation. Like bend the ends with a small 90 degree angle and oval out the two holes on one side close to the heating element so you can insert the two legs into the normal holes on the other side and then take your thumbs and apply a little pressure on the other legs insert them into the oval holes and they will bend back by themselves into a locking position. I live to trouble shoot..

[@JaimeRobateau]

What do you think of the Mr. Heater Little Buddy as an alternative heater?

[@kajraske2002]

I'm imagining using this ice fishing and it seems interesting. On a tripod, with the fuel on a table or some kind of sill, where you wouldn't expect it to heat the entire shelter. I think it would work there. Similarly in some kind of open shed or lean-to. But that's really it.

[@heretikpapy]

It run nicely on Butane and on Propane also. The most hot was with Propane. It's not recommanded but it work perfectly. You can also order the Grill pan that fit on. It's really nice for single and maybe two persons camping.

[@douglascarlson9712]

I wonder if you bend short stubs on the ends of the grill where it inserts into the stove if that would help hook it in

[@thathikingguy]

Yeah the grill plate coming off did get annoying. Glad you mentioned it because I forgot to

[@nobodycares9201]

Your opinion, could you use a propane adaptor to connect to propane bottles or cans? An idea that might work.

[@Miner-49]

It says not recommended not impossible. It’s adjustable so it should work with different fuels.

[@farstrider79]

Just buy a propane heater.

[@joyce9275]

Yea it’s adjustable if use propane just need an adaptor

[@nobodycares9201]

And a seperate stove@@farstrider79

[@farstrider79]

@@nobodycares9201 Yes. He pretty much spent the whole video talking about how it didn't work that well. So why spend $100, then buy another adapter to switch the fuel. Buy a Mr buddy heater and a cheap propane stove. Also, stoves are heaters..........

[@bryanhumphrey4072]

Thanks for this review! I am always looking for ways to stay warm and was wondering about this stove. You saved me money!

[@stepheneddington1667]

It's an interesting concept and I think it has merit if a few design changes can be made. The main thing that turned me off was that they said it's not recommended for 'indoor use' such as vehicles and tents. Mr Buddy heaters can be very safe indoors and put out more heat. I have one of the Big Buddy heaters and used it to heat my apartment when the furnace went and it took several days to get it fixed. It was totally safe and I only went through two 20lbs propane tanks costing me around 60 bucks. I hope they continue to R&D this product and make improvements.

[@lordgarion514]

Most likely, this is also safe. What makes a heater safe or unsafe for use indoors, is whether or not it has complete combustion. This is almost certainly going to do that. But the Mr Buddy weighs 9 pounds. It's also massively mass produced. Mr Buddy also includes a carbon monoxide detector in case it stops having complete combustion. And they do. So if you're asleep when it messes up, you better hope the detector hasn't stopped working due to not being used. And it's a mathematical fact that sooner or later, it will break

[@murdiesel]

I bet these would be great for truck campers with ventilation. Well we shall see in March! Good for back up but a shame it is not propane. More for hiking where less is more!

[@redsorgum]

It’s a little pricy, but as a stove, I don’t have a problem with it. If you don’t use a windscreen with most stoves, you’re going to lose some time off of boil times. I don’t lose to much sleep with boil times. ✌️🇺🇸

[@umaiar]

A camping heater that you're not supposed to use in a tent or car? What are you supposed to be heating, the woods? I'll just carry hand warmers. For cooking it might actually be interesting as it has a pretty large heating area. But for that price (and frequently less), there are a lot of options.

[@educational4434]

They give a blanket warning due to liability issues to prevent lawsuits, but you can use it indoors with ventilation, like cracking a window

[@elkhuntr2816]

If it could be used in a tent, this could be huge. I am not sure why they say it can't be used in a tent since it is a ceramic heater identical to the big and little buddy heaters. Its probably not because of CO, but because there is no low oxygen cutoff like there is on the big buddy heater with the little pilot light that goes out if there's not enough oxygen. I hunt a lot in ID and we are usually truck camping in a big tent with propane big buddy heaters. I am looking into backpack hunting and need some sort of heater for backpacking. You can always use a wood stove, but that means a lot of extra work cutting wood especially in the dark when it is raining. If there was a lightweight propane option that would work in a tent, that would be huge and they would sell a ton. We are already carrying fuel for cooking, it would be great if we could use it for cooking as well. This type of heater would be great for smaller tents where the stoves are usually used in the larger teepee tents. Do you know of any backpacking heater options that could be used inside of a tent? Or do you know of a safe way to heat a tent externally with an external fire source?

[@OntarioBearHunter]

We sell a propane Buddy that is 2 piece heater and cooker...more for storage ease than multi purpose. I trust and use Buddy or Martin products.. this, not so much.

[@Ram-1231]

I'm going into my third winter with my Big Buddy heating my RV. Buddy is made by "Mr Heater" btw. They make smaller units and are famous for tents. The homeless use them extensively... And you can re-fill the small propane canisters from a larger one although they tell you not to. Wonder why? Those small canister are $7 and it's only like 1/5 gallon. Propane is $3.50 gallon here.

[@phillipadams4738]

They grill coming off is driving me crazy watching you handle it. Lol

[@trustbuster23]

It may be that the 1lb Coleman propane bottles are only common in the U.S, while iso-butane is available all over the world. In other words, this makes a lot more sense when you live somewhere where you can't buy a Buddy heater and feed it propane at half the price (or even less if you buy the adapter for the 25 lb cylinders).

[@imperialrving4435]

Didn’t you already use this on a recent camping trip? I remember you not liking it then and ended up using your other small cupid heater, correct me if I’m wrong. Love all your videos, thanks 🙂

[@martymartin2894]

After seeing the review about the 3 burner stove i followed the amazon link but it was 35 euro i think, i didn't buy it but i got one very similar with one strong burner in the middle, better than the other one I'm thinking as it won't be up the sides of the pot unless turned up very high. Got it for 20 euro in same orange box wit adapter, im very pleased with it.

[@andreasweber7828]

Looks questionable to me. Wouldn’t touch it

[@LeopoldElwes]

Agreed 🙌

[@bradleverton3233]

Definitely not when it's hot 😂

[@cruzinthruspace]

Got it as a heater Works as a heater

[@andreasfriedl9858]

Thanks for this nice review! The fuel source (price and temp range) is the biggest disadvantage IMO.

[@toddnewsom8129]

Curious. How does a stainless steel pot with a mirror finish hurt the stove?

[@retiredpd]

This is actually an infrared stove and that's why the heat is so noticeably directional, I don't know if you've ever walked into Costco or Walmart during the winter and they have a whole bunch of them turned on by the front door, same type of heat with this stove... They can be made to be very directional ...But basically the shiny mirror-like finish reflects the infrared heat right back to the burner, causing it to overheat. Believe it or not that doesn't happen with a flame... but that's the limit of my thermodynamics knowledge😂😂 I could definitely see myself using this in the winter and carefully putting it in an open vestibule and pointing inside the tent😊😊 and then get creative with a shiny Mylar blanket, It would get toasty warm in a hurry.

[@thomassmith3310]

Just checked the sunflower store. They have a propane adapter

[@justinaward2133]

Thanks for reviewing this. Looked good at first, but thanks to your video, I'm not getting it. Thank you again.

[@smokinggar714]

With the adapter can you use fuel like gas one???

[@ReRe-wd5sz]

NOPE! I personally would be afraid to use that heater/stove, just by looking at it.

[@Calatriste54]

A heater for a backpack tent? Hogwash.. nah!

[@CrackerFL]

Yes I saw that stove also. Looks too scary for me!

[@sierraridgereaper]

🤣🤣🤣

[@georgehwynn374]

The Sunflower stove is on Amazon for $ 89.00. Thank you for your review a lot of time it's a eye opening .

[@jchambers1191]

I wonder how the heater function would work well if placed under a poncho in a seated position as an emergency personal shelter heater. SI bet it would keep you really warm....

[@jstsmegy]

Inside the flip it would be a good heater how long does it run

[@waimanlam3035]

Fire maple seems to be for camp cooking where naturehike were for tents a few years back. Throwing ideas against a wall hoping things stick. 60% ok 10% surprisingly good and 20% dangerous.

[@NetNathan1]

Maybe they time the boil from putting the pot on a hot stove? You started the stove with the pot already on, then started timing...before the stove had fully heated up.

[@elderhiker7787]

Fire Maple makes very good products; well made. The problem with low BTU / long-time-to-boil is high fuel consumption rates. If you run out of fuel, you are screwed. And, if you can’t use stainless steel, you are forced to purchase high priced titanium or use aluminum. I put this in the same category with Jetboil stove; a nice product with limited versatility. I can do everything these products do with unlimited versatility with my Firebox stove. What would compel me to purchase a high-priced product with built in limitations? At least with Jetboil you get very quick boil times.

[@simbyote8755]

They use the same style of ceramic dispersal plates in commercial infrared broilers with the help of forced air for increased oxygen supply. They run 1.2-1.5k degrees farenheit. I would be curious what putting a small battery fan on low speed underneath/behind it would do to increase btu output.

[@mariatorres9789]

You could put one of those $20 metal fans that self propel from heat, without a battery.

[@missingremote4388]

If thermal reflection from stainless pot causes the stove to overheat. I don't want to modify it to be hotter

[@simbyote8755]

@@missingremote4388 After thinking about this a little more it wouldn’t work anyway; the air needs to mix with the gas before entering the burner; that burner would be sealed for gas distribution so a fan would have no effect.

[@peterbrennan750]

Put it on a tri-pod ? We all know that heat rises so surely near the ground is better...Keep up the good work.

[@Granza90]

Bad question. Is isobutane so different than the normal mix butane/propane?

[@sammysinno515]

Pairing this space heater with a desk tripod and running it in your tent for a brief amount of time on those cold winter nights could be a neat idea. I wouldn't trust it to run all night though like I do a Buddy. Still, I think it could be useful in some limited situations. It could also function as a temporary space heater for your car in an emergency.

[@graemefenwick6925]

you will be amazed at how quickly the carbon monoxide builds up in the tent

[@sammysinno515]

@@graemefenwick6925 I bring a small carbon monoxide detector with me while winter camping and I typically leave all the vents and a little of the mesh door unzipped for just this reason. I haven't ever had an issue. You're right though. Carbon monoxide can build up quickly in a tent and so anyone using heating products in a tent should be careful.

[@garylewis6318]

Thanks Luke, your word is good enough for me. If you have reservations about this stove, l wouldn't touch it.

[@rodneyslattum379]

Filing notches into the grill legs would help. Run propane from a 20 lb tank. It works with propane so far. Not for overnight heat or outside heat. I don't think any small heater works outside. I use mine on a small table inside my tent when car camping. That way I don't worry about it tipping over and making contact with the tent. But only when awake to keep the chill away. Works pretty good so far. There are better options out there though.

[@Ucceah]

love those reviews. but as somebody from the rest of the world (tm), i'd be most greatful for metric unit conversions on screen. i can deal with inches .. but ounce fractions and degrees fahrenheit are painfull to impossible to convert in your head, without having to pause and pull up a converter.

[@kevinshackleton5295]

I usually tent to agree with your findings, but not on this one. A Mr. Buddy heater is at least $70. This is much smaller, lighter and doubles as a stove. Amazon currently has the FireMaple for sale at $89. Lastly, I assume the intent of the tripod use was for a much smaller compact one. Like all fueled heaters, CO is a concern. I would assume the same safety measures for a propane heater in a tent would suffice. I think this will be on my Christmas list. Thanks for all your reviews! I've made and avoided several purchases over the years after watching your reviews. Happy Thanksgiving.

[@randymoats2059]

A interesting product. But what good is a heater that can't be used in your tent and the cheapest Walmart stove boils faster And don't like not being able to use propane, and all types of butane. Wilderness doesn't always have places to buy certain types

[@educational4434]

It can be used in your tent. You just need some ventilation. They tell you that it can't be used indoors or any closed spaces because they don't want you to sue them

[@todop]

I'm in Bulgaria, i own as a backup a Turkish made ceramic heater that just screw on top of the bottle its about 15 dollars, but don't have any protection. But its a heater.

[@markfeldhaus3693]

In other words it's not meant for prince/princess excursions. Also a little high temp cheap putty on the grill grate legs works great holding it in place. Just need to unscrew the burner top and secure.

[@robertalonzo5725]

Nice concept, not quite ready for prime time? Thanks for the review

[@patajohnson6319]

Hi, is there any stove thats safe for inside trucks? Thanks

[@HenrikLaurell]

An open flame in a confined space is never good, unless you have good ventilation even with your engine off. A single candle consumes as much oxygen as a human, also produce as much heat.

[@patajohnson6319]

@@HenrikLaurell thanks, my son drives semi, so going thru montana is a nightmare n I want him to stay warm.

[@margaret-annenelson575]

2nd time ?? From 2 weeks ago.

[@cruzinthruspace]

Bought it as a table heater Works great as a table heater while playing board games at the campsite Probably best for 2 people or 4tiny people

[@tanhockjun]

looking forward for your adventure with this stove and this reminds me of the zippo heater, have you tried that product before?

[@randylarsen6751]

A typical ceramic element heater which I love because of the radiant heat they throw out. Don't have a Buddy but others. I think they are being overly cautious with the safety warnings because there is no tip over or low oxygen shut off. I use ceramic heaters in tents and campers without worry as they emit very little CO, but you'll need to heed the usual precautions for heaters like this and not leave them unattended. As far as a stove, my concern would be having a pot of something boil over. Would the shock of liquid on the element crack it? At the very least if the little holes in the ceramic get fouled with gunk it lessens the heat output and it's very difficult to clean them (I know).

[@tennesseeterri]

What is the name or brand of the ceramic element heater that you use?

[@Henviggdbgjt]

Do not run this in the house. Do not run it near a mouse. Do not run it with a pan, unless you paint the pan cyan. Do not run it in a tent. Do not run without a vent. Do not try it in the cold, cause isobutane will freeze, I’m told. Do not hold it by the handle, or parts will fall in shambles. Do not use it near a breeze, including a sudden sneeze.

[@koyapol]

isn't it the same with the MSR reactor?

[@adama1294]

Im interested in their liquid multifuel stove. Its priced to be competitive with all the competition.

[@jeffhenson183]

Fire maple is a big company and surprised you hadn’t heard of them. I see lots of people using their products on other youtube channels.

[@Kolomaq]

Do you know if buddy heaters are safe to use in a tent overnight? My gut tells me their is still a CO concern.

[@Jimmynitro76]

My tent heater is the instafire by vesta and it works really well and i can sleep comfortably knowing im not going up in flames but that thing looks like a waste of time and money and maybe a chance of cooking yourself.

[@sueeisenhart3286]

When I watched you attach it to your tripod, the first thing I thought of was melting tripod parts. That should put off some heat from the back side does it not?

[@tomh7708]

I believe you use the FireMaple 1 pound bottle adapter.

[@carlplath1]

I have been using a simple Sterno sove for over 30 years. What is wrong with tha? What can improve on this low dollar model?

[@countrygirl63baker64]

No thank you!!!! Thanks for the info Luke 😊

[@christophersherratt7299]

Looks like the top plate rack needs to be soldering on the 4 pegs the same ceramic plates can be put over any stove giving you heat

[@cory4152]

Looks like it's best attribute might be for cooking I see less of a hot spot. Maybe get decent pancakes for a change

[@surfearth1]

Most tripods have a hook underneath to hand weight or a bag. Use a small bag and put the can in the bag and hang from the bottom of the tripod.

[@mayjan74]

That looks like a stove you posted about a week or so ago from a new tent you tested.

[@johnl2093]

I wonder if it works better as a heater with a stove fan on top of it.

[@yapster804]

For sure would work with butane canisters with an adapter..

[@krzywusala]

Hi Luke. I have a huge request on behalf of your European viewers: if you provide the dimensions of the products you test, you could include inscriptions with their dimensions in the metric system (just like you often do with weight). It would make it a lot easier for us to watch your reviews because it's terrible to have to pause the videos and recalculate. I personally would be very, VERY grateful.

[@Will-Parr]

Don’t do it Luke. America uses the imperial system which we inherited centuries ago from our European ancestors. Namely the English and the French. Inches, feet, and miles. Ounces, and pounds. Gee whiz. Europeans can just learn the imperial system. How ironic. It’s not that difficult.

[@bigstick5278]

Google conversions, simple I do it all the time..

[@BigDaddy_MRI]

I’m 100% American. Because I work for 39 years for a Dutch Medical Company, I have abandoned the Imperial measurement system. I have found that the Metric system is so easy to use it is ridiculous. I can convert (approximately) in my head back and forth, but USA needs to convert to the Metric system. Would only take about 5 years to get accustomed to using it. Anyway, your kilometers may vary. 😊

[@ferruccio4531]

as a European I would be very grateful, too.

[@ferruccio4531]

@@Will-Parr are you a grumpy old man?

[@JayDouglas01]

What good is a "heater" that can't be used to heat a tent?

[@zerumsum1640]

now, i'm no expert about these things, but when camping i will *always* bring a lighter/matches/etc. even if all of my kit has built in igniters. Why? What if one fails on say... the only way i have to cook things? Having a ignition source on hand shouldn't really be a problem. I can see it being a thing if you're trying to go with the absolute bare minimum amount of weight, but most people can find room for a bic or a matchbook in their kit. I also have a feeling this works better as a stove if your pots/pans/kettle/etc. are not shiny on the bottom. if it does work based on IR radiation instead of plain old heating with the burning gasses, a clean and shiny surface will reflect a lot of that.

[@ferruccio4531]

it looks to me that when you don't like a product you tend to destroy it, but I like your videos anyway.

[@jettschenker]

It can be used with a standard butane can with adapter

[@prostyle1626]

Thanks for the review.

[@brianpingle4175]

we used too use the old coleman heater as bothe a heater and stove back in the 80s dangerous yes but no deaths.

[@NorthcoastPatty]

I wouldn't use mine as a heater without a lean to. I like to sit on a two seater swing with a camo tarp over the swing turning the frame into a frame for my lean to. With this in front of me facing my lower body it is perfect on a chilly day.

[@DunnickFayuro]

What happens if you put a different fuel in it?

[@Jason-ke2nj]

Anyone know what BTU means? It equates to one match..

[@STho205]

British Thermal Unit

[@STho205]

The energy needed to raise 1pound of water, 1 degree F.

[@climaximus7699]

Nice review. Thanks

[@browsman2328]

The heating element looks like the one on my MSR Windburner which is amazingly wind resistant. I’ve used it without a windscreen in steady 25mph wind with almost no reduction in performance. The heating element on the Windburner is shielded by the pot though. Anyway I would not purchase this heater/stove myself.

[@Murgoh]

The lack of piezo igniter is more of a minor inconvenience than a real weakness as you should never go outdoors at least in cold weather without a way of making a fire anyway and there should be more than one too. I usually carry a butane "blowtorch/storm" style lighter for regular use and waterproof matches and a ferro rod (and tinder of course) for redundancy, none of my backpacking stoves have a built-in lighter. But yes, this is too heavy and too expensive for what it is, especially as you are not allowed to use it inside a tent, though I guess with care and adequate ventilation you still can, the manufacturer just wants to avoid any liability.

[@DL-ij7tf]

I bet it would be great for cooking. Most jet stoves are way too hot and too concentrated to cook well

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

There should be more current bushes alongside trails.

[@Mattthewanderer]

This was highly useful.

[@earlshaner4441]

Good afternoon from Syracuse NY Luke and everyone else this is the second time I have seen this stove and I am looking forward to seeing your equipment testing

[@RambloManiacs]

Obviously there's some design flaws, BUT regarding boil times... It really isn't that long when you consider this is a quiet, wind proof stove. As it's not a direct flame it's very wind proof. I think people have just got too used to these rocket like jetboil type stoves. On the heater side...of course they have to cover themselves and say not to use inside, but that's surely the point in it.

[@elkhuntr2816]

After more research and contacting FireMaple, I am convinced this is safe to use inside a tent as long as you make sure there is enough oxygen. They are being overly cautious and protecting themselves (which may backfire with sales). It is identical to a buddy heater minus the low oxygen sensor. Someone should do a carbon monoxide test to see if it remains at safe levels just like a buddy heater. 6000 BTU might not be impressive for a stove, but it is impressive as a heater. The little buddy heater only puts out 3800 BTU. And to save fuel when heating the tent, I might be OK with the slow boil times because I am both heating the tent and cooking at the same time. And 2lbs is about half what a titanium wood stove would weigh. My question is how much butane would I have to pack. Do you have burn times with how long it will run on high on a single container? The main use of this product for me would be as a heater when back pack hunting in wet or cold conditions. Thanks for the honest review.

[@Anlushac11]

I was interested in using this in my Van due to its small size and for use in cold weather. The warning not to use in enclosed areas is not so much a turn off as the iso-butane fuels that make it a no buy for me. I understand that using any flammable device inside a enclosed area requires ventilation and there are carbon monoxide dangers. I would prefer to use propane since its easier to light in the cold. I think the enclosed area warning is pretty standard to avoid lawsuits. I think it would work find in my Van if it were Propane I have a bed that runs along the drivers side and a bench that runs along the passenger side. the heater would be on the bench. I dont think it would have a problem heating the inside of a Van as long as ventilation was used.