Former All Blacks Coach Laurie Mains Reacts To TJ Perenara's Haka & All Blacks vs Italy

[@commentwell3870]

And this is exactly where people sometimes think that the ABs are arrogant: it was immediately assumed that the ABs were "just flat" - it was never considered to give Italy credit too - until Laurie said so.

[@murraysmith6315]

Good for Laurie, said what he wanted to say without saying it.

[@lindachandler2247]

TJ spoilt the sendoff for Cain.How disprespectful,all about himself.

[@Ironian-kd6]

I'm sure Sam, his team-mate and friend was devastated. I bet TJ never even spoke to the team about what he intended to do🙄. The team looked pretty supportive to me. Everyone blowing this out of proportion has made this about TJ.

[@45lioneyes]

Maybe you should ask Cane that you can't even spell his name, you clown. they were embracing at the end the game if you even watched you ill-informed idiot.

[@MarkHawkins-c7u]

Always about himself is Perenara

[@Ironian-kd6]

​@@MarkHawkins-c7uOld news get over it.

[@TracyBrown-p5h]

​@Ironian-kd6 now you're making things up.facts Ironian

[@rustyone7299]

TJ will be praised by one news and the herald

[@johnr3150]

Yeah, the lame TV1 news had nothing bad to say as usual.

[@tumbleweedlyfe]

@@rustyone7299 I think it's spelt woke news

[@malc796]

TV1 and the NZ Herald , most woke biased news sources in the Country. Try to avoid them

[@kellylee1499]

Laurie Mains summed up TJ very nicely.

[@mjames9067]

@@kellylee1499 Laurie mains is an idiot, just like you dumb dumb 😁😁😁

[@Albert_Br]

Laurie Mains summed up the old white mans view that the Natives are getting restless. lol. National often use Rugby to gain votes. 1975- National promise to strengthen sporting relations with South Africa. And Brave All Blacks who have taken a stand -> 1995- Josh Kronfeld writes "nuclear free" on his headgear in a match for Otago to protest nuclear testing in the Pacific. 2015- Sonny Bill Williams Tweets photos of dead children to protests the Syrian crisis. 2016- Kane Hames writes "Standing Rock" on wrist to protest the North Dakota pipeline during Māori All Blacks match in US. 1981- Peak of sport meets politics. Skipper Graham Mourie and Bruce Robertson both sat out the tour. 1981 Bob Burgess takes part in the nationwide protests.

[@FinnDelMundoTravel]

NZ rugby is well and truely dead. TJ was the death nail.

[@brynnfreer2037]

What a joke HAHAHAHA

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

Cancel culture

[@tawhairickard5554]

There’s always hope buddy

[@TracyBrown-p5h]

Another ly,facts people

[@joemalone6994]

No one cares if you stop supporting the All Blacks go watch England and go back to it while you’re there

[@rogermartin8435]

TJP is hardly a spokesperson for anything above his paygrade as a half back. I appreciate that he has an opinion but using New Zealand's premier sports team as a vehicle to push the Maori self determination agenda of a racist native group is unacceptable. Close the door behind you. Thank you for your service.

[@tribalwar9971]

Well said

[@richardturner6063]

Exactly. He was overrated. His final message has hurt the brand.

[@beejallison8283]

When did how much u get paid come into voicing one’s opinion ?

[@beejallison8283]

And he will receive a warm welcome from supporters here in NZ when he comes back so that close the door comment is not true in any sent u may not but I am sure plenty of people will be filled with joy to see him truth

[@beejallison8283]

@@richardturner6063the Haka is the brand in most parts of the world probably one of the aspects of NZ most well known and keys be honest loved by the majority

[@michaelstk2817]

Can't say that I was a fan of Laurie as an All Black coach but I enjoy his astute game reviews. I don't bother sitting through the laborious pre match ceremonies Anthems and Haka included, the only performance I care about is the 80 mins on the field. Glad to hear Laurie kept his comments in that frame.

[@heatheranderson1821]

After that horrible, disrespectful display in Parliament, I choose NOT to watch it at all. At one time, I was proud of our unique culture, no longer. It is time the Haka was dropped completely. All it represents now is division and TPM.

[@dossnone4554]

I agree with you. Have a bitter taste in my mouth. The haka no longer belongs to me. That's fine. Have it.

[@kiwikev5775]

The ABs endorsing the Maori separatist flag is disrespectful. Only a NZRFU public apology can right this wrong.

[@sonnyawa6413]

@kiwikev5775 omg, stop it. Stop the bs

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

Try holding your breath

[@jpr7365]

I feel betrayed as an avid All Blacks fan over nearly 50 years.

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

@@jpr7365 It's healthy to share your feelings. Everyone is interested

[@MrAntz71]

That flag was the worst part after, not even the respect to include the national flag if he wanted "unity"

[@45lioneyes]

I fully agree with Lauri Mains. And good he didn't get into the minor TJ issue.

[@Patrick-hf5yi]

Correct. Laurie all class. Sean lacks class.

[@StGammon77]

It's not minor to Pakeha mate so yeah just saying

[@Patrick-hf5yi]

@StGammon77 enough of the party political broadcast. Yea just saying.

[@nzkid2599]

TJ made a very selfish move. The cause became about HIM

[@ManaBlack208]

Move on with your life

[@pauljones3062]

Looking for a job with Te Pati Maori & the gravy train & another woke leftist Maori radical racist.

[@sonnyawa6413]

​@pauljones3062 What gravy train? Btw, you have jumped on the crybaby train. Stop trashing Maori

[@StevenCarter-u1o]

I wouldn’t trust your opinion on much at all , your presumption and bias are plain to see - and hear ffs

[@StevenCarter-u1o]

@@pauljones3062you’re a bloody woke …

[@bradwallace6222]

Tj, well done, MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF.

[@5150show]

He's just a spoiled brat

[@cspace1234nz]

....'entitled' was the word that came to mind, but it's more than that. He acted precisely as we have come to expect these kinds of Maoris act, they expect everything just to be given to them giving little or nothing in return. I say this on the basis that my Maori friends think exactly the same way and are not impressed with the Maori radicals and elites who are looking to take.

[@mtuk4538]

Dump people do dumb things, not spoiled

[@mjames9067]

@@5150show dumb dumb you obviously don't know your history 🙄

[@5150show]

@ stop pretending you know what you’re talking about

[@cspace1234nz]

@@mjames9067 …would that be the old history or the new history ?

[@davidfenwick9577]

No respect for tj anymore...

[@Albert_Br]

No respect for David Fenwick. TJ is a great All Black. The Haka is a Maori expression. Good on TJ. Where as Fenwick has a Large W emblazoned across his forehead.

[@murraysmith6315]

I haven't for about 4 or 5 years.

[@tumbleweedlyfe]

Tj is an attention seeker and this is his latest bs .

[@puku64]

Sure he really fucking cares not! Love a high acheiver

[@puku64]

BS like your post bro!

[@sallyblack3779]

TJ Perenara, Whanker, Whuck whitt Putting our All Blacks in shame .

[@Ironian-kd6]

😂 Calm down, relax lol

[@iwiatua6735]

The only narcissist is you crybaby spoilt brat sunburnt bastards thinking you can use our haka when it suits and bash it when it doesn't, why don't you filthy pigs go find your own cultural dance to do before every game, do the river dance or whatever else you goofy bland boring Neanderthals do.

[@tomjones9097]

ok right winger

[@sonnyawa6413]

@@sallyblack3779 @sallyslack, ding dong ding dong

[@Ironian-kd6]

Thanks guys this has been fun today 🤣🙊🥱

[@davidfenwick9577]

Always great to listen to Laurie mains views

[@lazbogi]

Get Rid Of The Haka. The World Is Over It

[@Patrick-hf5yi]

You're talking total rubbish.

[@sonnyawa6413]

@lazbogi And we are over it with people like you who have no scruples whatsoever when it comes to any Maori expressing their views. The constant loud mouth trash from white people jump at the opportunity to berate anything and everything Maori is sickening and bordering on hysteria

[@commentwell3870]

@@Patrick-hf5yi you are living under a bush. It is true.

[@carolecarpendale666]

How about we get rid of you

[@tawhairickard5554]

May as well get rid of kiwi music while you’re at it

[@MrTewhare]

I thought the rules of the being an Allblack was to be humble in defeat but, be even more humbler in victory. The black jersey itself represents unity and strength. The formation of the Haka was messy with pops and squeaks similar to the nz Kiwi league team haka a lot of outburst no symmetry which reflected the game they had. My opinion is nothing in this world is perfect and everything can be better in some way. If you put in the necessary work and effort. The All-blacks could be better, the treaty could be better I am far from perfect which i prefer. Where do you go if you think you’re prefect there is only one way thats down!

[@argondemad8024]

Didnt you get the memo😂. Thats out of date.😂 Its all about wokeness and individual grandstanding. Heres a reminder, self entitlement is the same as oppresion now😂

[@Ps119]

Time to get rid of the haka. No place for tribal jumping around and pulling faces trying to intimidate others. Seen around the world as a joke that we pretend to take seriously for the sake of politeness.

[@iwiatua6735]

The haka and culture is what made the all blacks famous and respected worldwide, without us you boring bland bastards wouldn't have jack shit to show off!

[@jdok7950]

@@Ps119 your not from NZ ya troll.

[@janbrown9195]

@@jdok7950 yes they are and millions of NZers agree Māori and non Māori so troll away .

[@sonnyawa6413]

Crybaby trash speak

[@sonnyawa6413]

​@@janbrown9195don't believe you

[@ala-hc4rx]

Hope penenara never gets to play in nz again.

[@iwiatua6735]

The only narcissist is you crybaby spoilt brat sunburnt bastards thinking you can use our haka when it suits and bash it when it doesn't, why don't you filthy pigs go find your own cultural dance to do before every game, do the river dance or whatever else you goofy bland boring Neanderthals do.

[@jamietownsend7545]

He's retired but Aotearoa is his whenua oli

[@TracyBrown-p5h]

Come on for f sakes

[@venomous404040]

Ditch the haka. It’s over. Woke world destroyed it.

[@janbrown9195]

Go woke go broke 🛑

[@danielcairns3856]

Get a life mate

[@MK-oc4gt]

It's been a part of the All Blacks brand since the late 1800's and fans world wide, enjoy it and expect it now, so good luck trying to ditch it. In fact some have been known to go to a game just to experience the thrill of the haka and of course the mana of the AB's. Just imagine - the 'mighty All Blacks' without the haka. No haka...no mana! Nah, just not gonna happen! 😂

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Ditch The All Black name I doubt very much you are black or brown

[@JG-us9lu]

@@MK-oc4gt Not anymore.

[@jpr7365]

TJ is only interested in himself and his potential future political career as a list MP with TPM. Totaly overrated player and narcissitic personality.

[@DCG-dg5sd]

agree 💯 ... could even be with the labour and or Green party as well 😵‍💫 .... gotta keep all options open for that "life after rugby" career/s 🤔

[@45lioneyes]

oh, and you played 89 tests, you crybaby jealous loser.

[@AnaTuari]

Tough. Whatever

[@jamietownsend7545]

tall poopie syndrome is strong with this cooker

[@TracyBrown-p5h]

And another lyer ,facts people.

[@ibri3]

Perenara is a narcissist and showed us he believes self is more important than team. His reward should have been that he was not permitted to take the field off the bench.

[@iwiatua6735]

The only narcissist is you crybaby spoilt brat sunburnt bastards thinking you can use our haka when it suits and bash it when it doesn't, why don't you filthy pigs go find your own cultural dance to do before every game, do the river dance or whatever else you goofy bland boring Neanderthals do.

[@jdok7950]

Everyone is a narcissist in a way. Some are just better than others.

[@user-wr4jw6ec7p]

​@@jdok7950not ture . Most people have no desire to control others.

[@user-wr4jw6ec7p]

Maori culture is narcissist .

[@jdok7950]

@@user-wr4jw6ec7p Narcissism is extreme self-involvement to the degree that it makes a person ignore the needs of those around them. While everyone may show occasional narcissistic behavior, true narcissists frequently disregard others or their feelings. They also do not understand the effect that their behavior has on other people. All cultures have this attribute ya racist keint

[@michaelsmith1486]

Perenara was one of the loudest voices decrying Israel Folau when Folau quoted the Bible. Perenara said something like politics having no place in sport.

[@Shaksta]

Politics has always been in sport. Just different when a coloured person speaks out. Yes TJ was against Folau along with Ardie & Webber.

[@cthlite]

From memory Folau did not mouth off using the Wallabies as his official platform.

[@25Silver]

Yep, Folau was man enough to voice his opinion outside the game not while in a game. TJ showed his class, Period..

[@JG-us9lu]

I'm afraid that after the parliament, the haha haka is now seen as a joke in the world.

[@waenmanson3489]

Totally agree!!

[@45lioneyes]

said the biggest joke of all

[@JG-us9lu]

@45lioneyes That's clever, errr no just a dumb comment.

[@cyndigooch1162]

I can assure you that it definitely isn't the case because I've seen many videos with countless positive comments, especially from African American people, which is understandable! 🙂

[@JG-us9lu]

@cyndigooch1162 I'm afraid it is. I'm in Europe, and it is being ridiculed, I assure you. .BTW they are black Americans, not African.

[@outback109]

TJ thinks like he plays...poorly.

[@beejallison8283]

@@outback109 and u are an expert on the game have all the data to back that up or have coaches for 16 years I say 16 years! In first class rugby have gotten it wrong?😂😂

[@nigelgreenwood4662]

He only did it because he knew they couldn't sack him, as he was gone anyway.

[@pgreen8531]

Absolutely 💯 😊

[@BerniceAdams-e6v]

@@nigelgreenwood4662 false. He did it to show unity from across the world. With the blessing of the coach, captain and team mates

[@TracyBrown-p5h]

That's a ly not fact .wake up

[@PhilT1957]

Get rid of the Haka it has nothing to do with sport.

[@peterford113]

And fast too..asap..

[@tumatauenga6433]

F'n racists

[@Asherclementsyrrrr]

Cry harder snow flake🤣🤣

[@FinnDelMundoTravel]

Haka has nothing to do with anything worthwhile. It’s embarrassing whenever one breaks out.

[@tumatauenga6433]

Racists

[@kiltedkiwi0150]

Tj is just a little ball bag. I think the haka needs to go. They are there to play rugby, not audition for a musical.

[@StGammon77]

Its a Christian hymn anyway nothing to do with war, if people think natives were doing this traditionally or having fancy poi concerts you need educating, the native sport was kicking severed heads around, Rugby is Pakeha we need to capture all our stuff back off those rebel criminal racists

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Get rid of The All Black name rebrand it I doubt very much you are black or brown

[@grayleon9803]

It's not all about you TJ or TPM.!

[@sonnyawa6413]

@@grayleon9803 And it's not all about you

[@grayleon9803]

@sonnyawa6413 who is the 'you' you're referring to.?Can't be me ,as I don't have any money on these pathetic entities who use their sportsman's or parliamentary status to hijack an event & ruin that said placement for their own corrupt selfish agenda of racism & apartheid then divide New Zealand.So....In this case it is all about them in their futile attempt of using their position for all the wrong reasons.!

[@jamietownsend7545]

No one knows you so means nothing to anyone 🤌

[@grayleon9803]

@@jamietownsend7545 wrong ballbag.!your comments are really of no consequence in the scheme of things.Got it.?as I don't speak ballbag,definitely not moron guess your lost in translation.?

[@jamietownsend7545]

@@grayleon9803 Wow the faecal implosion is strong with you Lord Pātero 1st 😆

[@klburroughsnz]

TJ - glad he's gone! Sam Cane - I'm worried for him in later life. That he never used any head protection after multiple head knocks always amazed me

[@youboreme-c6b]

Head gear was only ever good to protect the ears from cauliflower ear. You can't fully protect the head in contact sport

[@kungfutzu3779]

we were always told helmets didn't really help against concussion, they were mainly to prevent the ears getting torn

[@kungfutzu3779]

@@youboreme-c6b ok you said it first

[@klburroughsnz]

@@youboreme-c6b I agree that is what we have been told the studies say, so I wonder why they put padding all over them and they are not just a cap with ear covers? ...hmmmmm

[@lovemysport7902]

Concussion & other associated Brain damage would be caused by the Brain hitting the inside of the Skull not the actual hit of the outside of the skull. The hit to the skull stops/slows the skull from moving in the original direction but with the brain being encased/floating in fluid, the Brain itself continues to move in the same direction hitting the inside of the skull. It is a bit like putting a raw egg on a flat surface, giving it a spin, stopping it briefly with a finger but upon lifting the finger off the egg begins to spin again. The padding of a helmet may slow down the impact a wee bit but insignificantly whilst there are even NFL Players who wear the metal helmets who also suffer from concussion etc.

[@jackitt4883]

the haka with the silly girl doing it in parliament and now the all blacks the haka as a protest against equal rights it has been cheapened...

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

What part of Toitu te Tangata is against equal rights?

[@jamietownsend7545]

like your silly triggered cooker reply lol

[@99redballoons54]

We are supposed to forget about the past and try to be less Maori and more pakeha. After 180 years, I wonder why that hasn't happened??

[@rorysullivan4913]

Do the haka in NZ only please

[@jamietownsend7545]

@@99redballoons54 and forget about my grandfather going to ww1 and coming home and his land was given to a white ww1 returned soldier? Reason was there was no one on the land so the crown borrowed it forever. Great equality .. not

[@jonnicholson4099]

If I was involved in the money part of the All Blacks fund raising which pays the costs and wages I would be bloody annoyed. I reckon that be hard enough at the moment witout this divisive stuff upsetting the sponsors. This is an own goal and if these guys can’t realise this on their own then there have to be a clause in the contract to prevent it.

[@janconway2880]

Oh, so he's a liar as well as a yappy mouth, don't need people like this in a International sports team representing NZ.

[@pauljones3062]

If I was a major Sponsor I would be withdrawing from all Maori sport & then seen what reaction you get.

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

@@pauljones3062 Mitsubishi is ABs biggest sponsor thru its Steinlager brand. Japanese aren't thin skinned little whiners

[@redneckReno]

lost what little respect I had for that benchwarmer

[@beejallison8283]

@@redneckReno 😂😂not that easy to make the ABs bench for that long at all especially when our greatest halfback ever played same position for sane amount of time at the same time is it?

[@hariseldon3786]

While on the field he is representing NZ - neither he nor the Rugby Union have a mandate to do this politically - to do that you should be an elected representative - on the field is not the forum for that.

[@beejallison8283]

Never has been never will in sports political messages are the individuals teams choice ( did u not see them all with the flag) and u live with consequences of which there will be none …u might not like 😂😂 but is how it is

[@thefobbie0034]

@@beejallison8283 What do you mean ...."them all"..... there was at least 10 players not there not including the rest of the 33-man squad!!!!! Where was the whole team's agreement to this - you are lying in order to make your point here! I don't care none of those players had the right to use the national team to express their INDIVIDUAL political thought!!! Take that crap elsewhere - I have witnessed the destruction of politics in sports! You have NO clue on what you are talking about!

[@beejallison8283]

@ I can count tho and it was all smiles I can also see the Haka means a huge amount to players and fans on the majority and they don’t care what u think and I am not lying just an observation did u also boys English part of anthem I. Sheds after Irish game as they didn’t get an opportunity on paddock …. Sports and politics in fact anything in public domain often has political events 68 Mexico black power fist? Ali refusing g draft and losing his title for it banned ..that looks really great today doesn’t it?

[@beejallison8283]

@ 23 out of 33 sounds like 70% to me right ?

[@beejallison8283]

@ and when I said them all I was referring to that there was alot of them what each player thinks I don’t know do you? What I can say there was a decent amount and they seemed more than happy to stand with the flag just as they seem very happy and proud to sing anthem t English part included watch after Irish game u see that?

[@mark8200]

Makes me want to watch the warriors more, screw the woke sport organisations

[@sonnyawa6413]

@mark8200 See you later dude. Go and support the perennial losers. We won't miss you

[@Gary-i9f]

Jesus christ, its really got to you, mark .

[@mikeholling8830]

Yeah me too, much better game for sure.👍🏼

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@stopmakingsense6715]

NRL is more about culture than Union you better turn to soccer or cricket

[@hanzjensen2154]

Best Wokefull and cancel culture thought of the day.

[@davemckenna8591]

Come on , every one knows he only played that game because of PC bullshit because it was his last game , HE is third string at best .

[@J67844]

Well said Laurie👍 Keeping it classy like Sam Cane, not TJ Perenara.

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@errolmillar6739]

Perenara is another one who has NOT read the legislation and shows his biased opinion.

[@jamietownsend7545]

Errol baby, time for a bed pan change

[@stevenroberts2490]

@@jamietownsend7545clown

[@etienneholmes5556]

The haka is now a political statement. Hopefully, the world sees this now! Been calling on World Rugby to scrap the thing for years now. No need to lay down a challenge. Everyone knows they there for a game of rugby. #Joe Marler vindicated!!!!!!!!

[@stopmakingsense6715]

the ALL BLACK name is a political statement FOOL Change The ALL BLACK name

[@AlanHeslop-ws1kw]

Good riddance to TJP, we don't need him, Roigard looks the goods and if he falters Noah Hotham could well become the incumbent. Laurie Mains was kind, but we all knew what he wanted to say

[@beejallison8283]

He is retiring not being dropped good enough to be selected first class rugby 16 years or so and if u don’t think that holds value amongst ABs u don’t know how our team works these days

[@Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1]

what's astonishing is how he gleefully accepted his 100 cap souvenir after shi**ing on his country. If he was true to his political stunt then he would've rejected his cap & gained a bit of respect to those who think worthy of. This alone shows he had ZERO respect for the haka & the people it represents & highlights just how thick this guy is

[@thefobbie0034]

@@beejallison8283 Hold value to what - himself LMAO!!!!!

[@sonnyawa6413]

@thefobbie0034 yeah, lyao. What a bunch of over the top actors. Stop the right-wing manufactured grievance, please. You people like moaning about anything and everything that doesn't measure up to your way of life.

[@beejallison8283]

@ in point with this

[@KAHouli-p1x]

get rid of haka let maoris do it , nothing to me

[@deannemcmanus-emery3674]

Yeh and Maori players in the team can cross over with their haka to play for Maori All blacks alongside with poly brothers leaving to play for their country. Be interesting to see how good The All blacks will be then?? Jaime Joseph will make a good coach for the Maori blacks 💯 My $$ be Maori blacks for win!! Lol

[@stopmakingsense6715]

You hit the nail on the head mate... You're a NOTHING

[@StGammon77]

It's foul slaughter face to me

[@Crimsonfate]

@@deannemcmanus-emery3674 notice how average the abs have looked lately now that the team is predominantly maori's/islanders... Lol

[@Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1]

with the exception of a few players expected to lock-step in line, this is no longer an All Blacks team rather an embarrassing mishmash of rapster bafoons & pc imberciels starting with the coaching staff. We now know why an assistant coach got sacked prior to a critical schedule earlier this yr & other similar issues enroute to Europe. From world champions to social engineering

[@fidget2020]

They’re ALL expected to walk lock-step in line with the brand…

[@pauljones3062]

Yeah tattooed woke earring wearing poofs.

TJ is a wonderful example of having a narrowly focused talent doesn't automatically confer wisdom or even common sense. Just another hysterical victim while also being highly paid. Best the hierarchy dishes out some fines to TJ and the coach to eliminate this.

[@Kanga-r]

Absolute disgraceful act by TJ. In front of millions watching around the world he espoused personal views that are not supported by the whole of Māori let alone the whole of New Zealand. It was embarrassing and should now result in the haka being dismissed from the start of test matches. The All Blacks are sent on the field to play rugby, nothing else.

[@StGammon77]

Totally agree where was the Rongopai Maori flag the 1st one they ever flew after becoming Tikanga Christianity?

[@bobboardman1156]

Perenara is a disgrace.

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

He is your fellow New Zealander using free speech. You don't have to like but you do have to support his rights

[@jamietownsend7545]

Tim Jago

[@nikolaihoanijohnson5109]

It's not the Party Māori that's against this ACT bill, it's all of Māoridom. TJ Peranara was using his Tinorangatiratanga (Māori sovereignty rights) under Te Tiriti o Waitangi to have a say this Bill is not right. Not for the Paati Māori, but for all of Aotearoa who don't agree with this Bill

[@nikolaihoanijohnson5109]

So narrow minded 🙄 😢

[@ala-hc4rx]

@@MartinCraig-zt2sv not lying to the coach ,nor doing it at the start of a all blacks haka!

[@hankgoldenshaft]

I don’t think TJ was right to use ABs platform like that but to think the ABs have not been used for politics is silly. For example: Muldoon and Boks tour in the 80’s, the NZRU not sending Maori and Pacific Island players to SA back in the day in respect of their Apartheid system of government.

[@Rowanfbird]

Tj another narcissist maori grabbing the limelight

[@pgreen8531]

The haka should be gone from all sport it is absolute kaka 😮😮

[@jamietownsend7545]

instead of moaning here why not do something .... exactly you're all kaka 😆

[@nevillelamberti]

Couldn't agree more

[@StGammon77]

It's actually a testimony of a Chief who became a Christian lol nothing to do with sport or war it's insane wasn't traditional at all written in the 1870's I think

[@1culleng]

Support someone else, there’s plenty of nations who don’t have one, take your pick 👋🏾

[@nevillelamberti]

@ I don’t support NZ. They are pathetic

[@bridgetgallagher1930]

T.J. was and is a coward, not man enough to tell the truth

[@garymcquoid4750]

I wonder how Steinlager a major sponsor feels about this, i was fortunate enough to be involved with Lion NZ & I know how much importance Peter Blake put on making sure the sponsors were never let down. I would think that the NZRU would have already received a phone call!!

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

Steinlager is just another Mitsubishi brand, I'm sure they can take it without being sensitive little offended snowflakes

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Bow down to your corporate master, you've had to many jabs mate

[@troymomma]

Can't believe razor gave tj a finale run on the paddock, then tj thanks him by spitting in his face with the divide and conquer agenda

[@kungfutzu3779]

razor wouldn't have known what he said - it was in maori.

[@Esword-h5w]

Very disappointing, typical of someone that thinks they’re entitled, he forgets it’s an honour to wear the AB jumper

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Get rid of The All Black name rebrand it I doubt very much you are black or brown

[@malc796]

Goodbye NZ Rugby. Was good knowing you

[@stopmakingsense6715]

CYA don't comeback or sneak TV glimpses... BTW you were never known... who are you?

[@malc796]

@ don’t worry I won’t be back. If you want to pay money and watch your team insult you, good luck with that

[@malc796]

@@stopmakingsense6715 also I’m a nobody mate. Supported the ABs since I was a kid (some 35 years). Rugby ended for me after that Italy game.

[@noelpearson6775]

I as a maori also believe the haka is nothing but a joke. It is something special to maori and I have no problem with the maori all blacks doing it and that should be as far as it goes. It has no mana now it has been commercialized to much

[@James-w7f1b]

You plastic fella

[@Rotowhaka]

The question i have is, Did this actually contribute to the flat All Black Performance? By way creating a rift within the squad.

[@fredjones9750]

I like the haka as a special occasion maybe for home tests in nz but it has no place on other teams grounds around the world. It just appears arrogant and overdone.

[@bernieryan9746]

The ABs through history have played hard and won well..off the field more importantly they're regarded as a well mannered humble team..thus the respect shown them worldwide.. TJ has shown none of these great qualities to us ..only an uncontrollable argumentative temperament and a total disrespect for referees..well rid

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Shut up clown TJ has done more for NZ than you ever will

[@Rumpeepumpee]

In the early years of the 1900’s All Blacks teams toured South Africa without Māori players because of apartheid. 1981 Mourie excused himself from the All Blacks as a statement against apartheid. 1995 Josh Kronfeld made a statement on field wearing an anti-nuclear logo on his helmet. Members of the team also stood against LGBTQ and Israel Falau statement. Change the flag, remember that? All political actions by representatives of the All Blacks. After many years, and here we are, we still have an All Blacks team. Were these excellent players labelled (as @sallyblack3779 would say) “Whanker, Whuck whitt Putting our All Blacks in shame”.

[@westsideAUKILANI]

I'd say yes because ignorance was alive and well then as it is today as shown by the majority of this comment section.

[@waenmanson3489]

The all "blacks" - lol!! are a joke. Woke racist wankers.

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Get rid of The All Black name rebrand it, if the Haka has to go so does the Team name

[@calebhapeta8553]

TJ has always been a liability!

[@Gary-i9f]

Groot was stood down .....so whats happening to the flag pose fk wits .

[@stopmakingsense6715]

I think you've had too many head knocks mate

[@ursul7024]

All Black supporter for over 70 years. But never again. I will not support a team that backs racism. I lived in Gisborne during the Springboks visit that caused so much upheaval. I believed at that time NZ was against apartheid, but apparently many decades later they are all for it. NZ is lost and I'm so happy I got out of there years ago!!!

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Get rid of The All Black name rebrand it it reeks of racism

[@mikegray8776]

Laurie Mains totally OK with the principle of bringing Politics firmly into sport. Typical dry Kiwi. Well done Sean and Michael at The Platform for not ignoring this bollocks.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

'all the Barretts, Sam Cain and Scott Barrett' - 40 years of journalism.

[@SH-fy4ib]

😂😂😂😂 Don't Near Cough Far Cough. Good on you TJ Proud to be Māori!!

[@carolecarpendale666]

Ka rawe te Mahi TJ

[@Sadder302]

Part Māori 😂

[@McWin]

Tribalised marxists like all extremists have to lie because their truth is an anathema to all other humans. Perenara has been an outed extremist for some time and I am sure had it been half way through his AB's career his activistic antics would have been well hidden. Sadly in his last game he took the piss out of his team, the management, the fans and frankly New Zealand. He forgets that his sport, the All Blacks and what they do and stand for are not his nor any one elses personal political platform. Good bye TJP your contribution to the AB's was adequate and your contribution to New Zealand will be forgetten. One hopes you can enjoy the Japanese culture, one where respect is understood and lived and don't hurray back to New Zealand as it seems not be to your personal liking.

[@iwiatua6735]

This country will always his and not yours pakeha so you remember that because Maori will be running a muck on you flops for centuries to come!

[@peteralbertson8947]

K

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

Some people like to criticise kiwi blokes for never showing emotions. You've proven them wrong sharing your emotions and feelings with the group. I bet that feels nice

[@jbm8444]

Well said Laurie, I would of never picked him, firstly as he always box kicked the ball to the opposition and secondly for his involvement politically with the last placed Hurricanes' womens' team.

[@cantfrontonme]

God you’re a soft bunch on here to be so offended by the minority speaking up. But as soon as John Key wants support on a new flag, he inserts himself in sport to get support, puts himself on the front of an NZ rugby magazine.

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@StGammon77]

You have zero when the Haka is actually a testimony of Te Rauparahas experience of becoming a Christian it happened to most of them but that Haka is a special sacred one you have defiled it, twisted the meaning like everything else you cursed, Treaty Chiefs condemned you rebels long ago, it's OUR Haka about the work WE DID for God Ngati Pakeha Native to NZ now since 1960's, this is British soil, we rule here not the gods of the underworld so sit back and take your witchcraft back to the forest!

[@brentnelson6676]

Perenara only did that cos he knew that was the last game of his AB's career anyway. Sad way to make the attention about him when Cane was finishing also

[@lewtscott3346]

Scrap the cannibal haka - it belongs in the stone age

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@stopmakingsense6715]

Change the All Black name, its racist because l doubt you are black or brown

[@jamesblewman]

They had a month off before this tour and half the team didn't play Japan, so no excuses for being flat and playing poorly.

[@kenhorlor5674]

The old fashioned way of doing things: when overseas representing New Zealand, you do not bag your own country. TJ became political in Turin at the home of Juventus - what a spectacular own goal. 40k fans should have been enthralled, but what was served up was ordinary, and disjointed. The haka and posing with a divisive flag issue highlights they're not united as a team. Is Scott Robertson up to the task? Apologies are owed to Ian Foster, he took a not great team to the final of a World Cup, whereas this team struggle to do simple tasks. A little less grandstanding and more practise in how to play the game is what should be mandated, oh, and keep your mouths shut unless talking about the game being of two halves and the better team won on the day.

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

Respect to the Land, Respect to the People. How on earth can you claim that is bagging your country. It's the total opposite. You don't understand what you are trying to say

[@kenhorlor5674]

@@MartinCraig-zt2sv They definitely bagged their own country when posing with a divisive flag, while ignoring the flag they represent. Fine, do that, but without any taxpayer money behind them. They most definitely did bag their own country while overseas.

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

@@kenhorlor5674 Respect to the Land, Respect to the People. Respect to Ken. Bagging you out

[@kenhorlor5674]

@@MartinCraig-zt2sv The divisive flag does not represent New Zealand; the players are being paid to represent the NZ Flag. End of.

[@MartinCraig-zt2sv]

@@kenhorlor5674 You seem intent on taking offence over something that has caused you no harm. Typical kiwi glass half empty type.

[@argondemad8024]

Funny how an activist lied and broke protocol using te parti maori words😂

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@fidget2020]

I’m guessing that most punters in here didn’t even understand what TJ said during the haka until it was translated for them. I certainly didn’t.

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@robertmiller2173]

Stuff him, TJ can go away and not come back, he has always been a tosser, a TJ is a W …banker. TJ just showed how uneducated he is! Sam Cane, has come up to amazing standards, man the injuries he suffered, he never embarrassed the AB’s and Sam Cane was earned the respect of all New Zealanders. Here’s to you Sam! From a Cantab. And a big thanks!

[@rogeratkinson7209]

TJ lost his mana.

[@rockyrooster-j4j]

Never knew he had any..

[@awblax1]

Scott Barrett looked very uncomfortable with TJ's performance when asked about it at the press conference.

[@jasunzgaming5754]

TJ came to my friends bar in Wellington after I believe the canes lost to the chiefs this year. Yo begged him for free drinks, saying he played for the canes. My mate declined him and TJ was very upset. Another odd abuse of power this narcissist uses. He does seem like a nice fella, but obviously full of himself and a bit delusional.

[@neilstuarr2278]

Ego .. wow

[@kirwan1414]

I met a cousin of his in a bar on the Gold coast, she said he was very arrogant

[@jamietownsend7545]

Gossiper 😬

[@stopmakingsense6715]

I met your mama she said she conceived you whilst being on the Block like Jenny

[@LegionairMusic]

As soon as they started performing Haka for undeserving and vapid pop stars like Cardi B and her ilk, we knew it was done

[@Cyril_Squirrel]

Orchestrated by the scribble faces in the Maori Party

[@sarahfox3312]

The team has gone woke and soft. Once were Warriors

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@njd2342]

Sounds like it was a Tea Party dance so I'm glad I missed it.

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@nevillemoors4420]

Never had respect for Peranara , he’s always shown his own agenda is more important than the A B ‘s , Total kick in guts to Razor for giving him his last hoorah which he chose to politicise sport and rugby in particular.

[@tonygee3284]

Ditch the Haka. Its now becoming a joke for New Zealand. Funny thing I think it's making the ABs loose. Woke crap Great to see Razor dump TJ he was way past his expiry date as a Wannabe AB

[@PaulMineur]

What were the NZ Rugby thinking ... good ridan TJP ... YOU wont be missed ... and I also agree ... get rid of the haka, and put that passion on the rugby field ...

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@henrymoala7411]

This guy is making his own news or what. Move on OLD MAN

[@antihebrew]

Maoridom is lame.

[@iwiatua6735]

The haka and culture is what made the all blacks famous and respected worldwide, without us you boring bland bastards wouldn't have jack shit to show off! Now do your goofy river dance little piss ant pakeha!

[@jemma_19988]

Haka was reserved for home games nowadays used too much!! To me it is a bit disrespectful to the other team

[@CharmaineWatkins-h2d]

Geez people settle down. It was a contentious way back when Himewehi Mohi sang our anthem in maori andit is sung in te reo maori and english here and on the world stage. Pat ourselves on the back Nzders.

[@rockyrooster-j4j]

If you're fine with singing the nz national anthem in English and te reo, maybe we should do the haha in te reo and English?

[@Chopper650]

tj's idea of unity just means te grifter unity

[@StGammon77]

yes unite the racist browns

[@badallblack]

If we are criticising TJ about his political ethics then let’s reflect on NZ Rugby supporting the Apartheid era by sending only All Black white players to South Africa between 1920s up to 1980s

[@josephl9619]

@@badallblack we already have. We all agree it was wrong.

[@badallblack]

@ yeah, only took half a century

[@Gumpmachine1]

Except that wasn’t support, it was simply obeying the laws of a different country The world isn’t a nice place and sometimes we have to interact with other cultures even if we don’t like what they’re doing

[@josephl9619]

@@badallblack no it didnt

[@thefobbie0034]

What the heck has the political issue in New Zealand got to do with me wanting to sit down and watch a rugby game without ANY political interference! Perenara deliberately used the All Blacks - a team that gave him an opportunity for a career - as a vehicle to voice his political views! I say good riddance!

[@jemma_19988]

Every team can beat the AB's nowadays, especially if old TJ is playing!!

[@josephl9619]

unity 😂

[@EugeneHuman-kl1vc]

How is New Zealand suppose to perform well , when 1minute before the game starts.... You have your own team mate taking a mickey during your own Haka. In rest of the world.... People have all kinds of things happening but we keep politics out of it. You can use it as motivation, but not as a stepping stone. That's just my thoughts.

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂

[@alanJones-c9l]

Totally agree with you Sean - except for the Sam Caine comment. I think that he 'is' the greatest All Black of all time - what he has given, and what he has brought to this team during his long tenure has been nothing short of incredible.

[@simonlattimer4607]

How many AB coaches in the last 15/20 years have not had a mentor in the role, the current coach is raw so give him some slack, it will get better😊

[@flyingroman247]

Dicth the tounge poking haka, showing full disrespect to the opposition at the beginning of a game, moari demand everyone respect there culture, yet they show no respect for any other culter other then there own, which would would not be in the world stage if it wasn't for the old empires national game, remember rugby was invented in Ireland not on a pa site !

[@iwiatua6735]

The haka and culture is what made the all blacks famous and respected worldwide, without us you boring bland bastards wouldn't have jack shit. You goofy muppets should do the river dance before every game see how far that takes you.

[@katainz]

Now I'm over the haka tbh. I've lost respect for it.

[@jamietownsend7545]

I think we need a day in mourning for all the bat crazy cookers upset over this 😂