Why Following Diet Trends Are Bad For You Long-Term | Simon Hill on Mark Bell’s Podcast EP

[@AG-jz8vd]

What a crowd. Cleverly argued. You really had a strong-minded fitness audience in front of you! (note taken) lol

[@PropheticCoachTheresa]

I am so appreciative of your willingness to not be religious about diet Simon. It's not scientific to do so and at the end of the day people certainly are bio-individual. There is absolutely genetic variability as well as differences such as age, gender, and life circumstance/stress levels. I LOOOOVE the whole food, plant based diet. And when I was younger I did it for a few decades. But as a 60 year old woman under massive amounts of stress for a long time, now with very difficult aging parents and being self employed, I've had to drop all refined grains and eat some animal protein. It's well known that protein digestion and assimilation declines as we age, and menopausal changes in women also create insulin resistance and lowered stress resilience. It's been a very hard realization and life change for me to make, but I've added in lower sat fat animal foods-eggs, poultry, occasional fish. It's helped me finally start losing weight (without exercise), because it's helping to balance hormones and I'm sleeping better. I held off as long as I could but finally acquiesced to what my body needs to be healthy. I hope someday I can go back to plant exclusive. Its a great way to live and a wonderful community to be a part of.

[@carinaekstrom1]

I believe you could have found solutions without animal products, but I guess that's for you to figure out, so I wish you the best in finding your way back.

[@mickilicyes5399]

I'm 67 and have been wfpb for seven years and although I did loose some weight at the start I was still over weight. It wasn't until I cut out all processed vegan "meats" and added a lot of non starchy vegetables to my meals that I was able to drop the last stubborn pounds.

[@JRP3]

Such an important point that our ancestors only had to eat "healthy" enough to survive long enough to reproduce and raise offspring to puberty, so maybe between 30-40 years old. That says nothing about what the optimal diet is for long life in the modern world.

[@Joseph1NJ]

_"Evolution doesn't care about your longevity."_

[@Sec_coach]

Antibiotics Are you guys so dumb that can’t have a good argument

[@georgecav]

@@JRP3 an inconvenient thought but very relevant

[@asdf1991asdf]

Evolution doesn't care about the modern world

[@VeganLinked]

This whole test yourself and eat garbage like body parts, organs and secretions is completely ignorant to the fact that chronic disease takes time to develop and is insidious. The data points that matter most are hard and human outcome data points grounded in science not narrow sighted transient mechanistic based death-based results.

[@VeganLinked]

In other words it goes without saying, anybody watching this video likely can afford whole plant foods which are actually the least expensive foods on the planet as well as the most sustainable, non-violent, and healthiest. It's not nitpicky, you wouldn't think it was nitpicky if it was your life on the line. And you're an animal too by the way.

[@matthewdelbelbelluz6266]

Awesome video Simon!

[@christopherb527]

@simon hill can you share the study you were referring too about the increasing rates v increase animal protein 🙏🏽 keep content coming 🌱❤

[@Joseph1NJ]

Simon, where would we find that plant/animal protein study you referenced early in? Thank you.

[@CarnivorousAnt]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7231027/pdf/nutrients-12-00943.pdf

[@VeganLinked]

It gives people a choice, yeah there's tens if not hundreds of thousands of options among legumes, greens, greens, fruits, veggies, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, herbs and spices pulling from a variety of each to tailor people's diets to their specific needs and desires. People are such p*****s when it comes to change. And it's even more pathetic when it's something that's ultimately right in every way.

[@carinaekstrom1]

Why would there be more animal protein available to starving people than plant protein?

[@CharlieFader]

I think he said if it’s available. Like some tribe.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@@CharlieFader I just doubt that starving people have easier access to animal protein than to plant protein. Sometimes people have been given interventions with animal protein. I think that's a big mistake when they just as well could have been given some good sources of plant protein, which are much more sustainable. Some people use bush meat, which is also very unsustainable. Give them a chance to grow legumes instead. It's both healthier and more sustainable.

[@CharlieFader]

@@carinaekstrom1 I don’t disagree. But I’m sure there are some tribes that at least part of the year may have easier access to animal protein.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@@CharlieFader There might be, but there needs to be encouragement and information so they can get out of that problem. Not support to make them more dependent on something that is not good for anyone long term.

[@CharlieFader]

@@carinaekstrom1 I think he was just making a theoretical point about different situations possibly leading to different recommendations.

[@VeganLinked]

He might be an outlier but we don't really know because we're not looking at his biomarkers he's just saying something. Furthermore he might be overcompensating in other ways that just make what he's eating more insidiously dangerous. He's not testing for cancer is he? How exactly is he testing for heart disease? What's his insulin resistance like? For all we know he could do better on a whole food vegan diet and simultaneously not be supporting the most violent jobs, the most atrocious industry that is the most destructive in every way, fostering antibiotic resistant bacteria, deadly pathogens and zoonotic diseases that kill millions of people, supporting an industry that's the most unsustainable and leading cause of deforestation, desertification, aquatic dead zones, species Extinction, there's a reason why there's over 200,000 concentrated animal feeding operations in the US alone that are toxic to surrounding communities. But hey he thinks his n of 1 blood work is good

[@MistyBell13]

Well said, my reasons for eating wfpb is for the animals, the planet and my health. If we were all a little less selfish and moved in this direction the world would be alot better off. I despair for the animals, it breaks me ❤

[@rik80280]

It’s all about me and my tastebuds with these guys. Forget the research, the planet, the animals. As long as my apob is okay right now, I’ll eat whatever I want. 🥺

[@KatoKato-mx1gf]

Love this, it's so refreshing to hear people talk as intelligently as Simon

[@georgecav]

Another great common sense presentation except for the dayspring effect. Bloodwork seems in your mind Simon to centre around lipid panel and apob in particular. I am no scientist but there seems to obviously more to even the cvd story than apob numbers, inflammation states being an obvious one. I would love to see you do a deep dive as part of this into 2 things 1) the cholesterol reverse J curve and the evaluation of studies support8ng or contradicting that including whether confounders have been appropriatey accounted for. 2) Evaluate the studies that show that losing weight / fat after a coronary event actually increases your chances of death despite probably lowering a whole lot of risk factors. It seemsclike an inconvenient truth that everyone ignores because it doesnt fit with anyones pet theories. I first heard of it arou 25 years ago at a seminar and a bit of online searching came up with scandinavian research in 2019 still finding the same counter-intuitive finding

[@TheProofWithSimonHill]

Inflammation is caused by ApoB retention.

[@georgecav]

@@TheProofWithSimonHill here we part company in understanding. My understanding of metabolic syndrome which in my lazy way was more what I was talking about is that its way broader than that. So far as apob goes, although here I am assuming a fairly useful correlation between apob and ldl cholesterol levels, ezetimibe lowering it by a large amount for no benefit in th early studies in my mind is damning of the apob as main cause hypothesis. Yes and then there was a small benefit in that study that combined it with rosuvastatin that one of the more sceptical yt doctors who posts said was reshaped 6 times insinuating they had to work hard to conduct the trial in sucn a way that showed it had any benefit.

[@MrJOHNMICHAELVEGA]

Testing ? Not everyone has the money or insurance to get these tests! There needs to be another system to make testing available for everyone ! You are good giving information on nutrition but not giving solutions that are affordable or free. I often wonder .... whom are you really talking to when you have these podcasts ? Blood work$$$$???

[@ZmogusJaponija]

if to take recomended tests from Simon's website (there is pdf on that) - in total they are max 200 EUR, where most of it Omega index. The rest are pretty basic and cheap. At least here, in Europe.

[@varunsoni5278]

come to India, it's cheaper and equally reliable

[@Steve-nb9kg]

Lipid panel costs $15, can order it yourself, don't need Dr.

[@thebalancednurse6938]

He is Australian and it is free in Australia to get blood work done. The USA is one of the only places where it’s expensive to see a dr and get bloods done

[@Steve-nb9kg]

@@thebalancednurse6938 Depends on what expensive means. In USA you can order a lipid test online for $15-20 without seeing a dr. With insurance annual physical is free and lipid panel cost me $15. If you need/want statins that's a few dollars a month. Cheap as heck. Or you can just save this money and spend thousands on stents, bypass surgery, heart attack treatment and rehab facilities later in life.

[@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398]

Love the fake troll carnivore success stories in the comments. Seriously humans are weird. Fancy feeling threatened by vegetables and fruit. They can’t be so alpha if a banana sends them into paroxysm of fear.

[@DaniilDimitrov]

What kind of question is this ????

[@victorcs_]

No !

[@stefaniehinton7719]

You are amazing Simon! You are so tactful and professional, even when speaking to condescending meat heads 🙌🏽😆

[@wolfenhauz]

lmao wild to use condescending then be condescending XD

[@kellrockets101]

@@stefaniehinton7719 pot calling the kettle black

[@stefaniehinton7719]

Thanks 😁

[@fallguy6196]

Here we go. A low saturated fat diet person. What in the acual heck is going on ? Every other guest on every podcast says Saturated fat is good and another says its bad lol. Why cant any of these "experts" agree on anything ?

[@TheProofWithSimonHill]

Watch my videos! Answer that question a lot

[@AnssiEriksson]

I highly doubt that. Keeping saturated fat low is the consensus in the medical field.

[@Harperangel59]

Consuming high saturated fat will likely raise your bad cholesterol. We don’t want that

[@Sec_coach]

Diet trends? Some people are ten years on carnivore diet Trends my ass

[@julianschweitzer5492]

some 20 years ago

[@dualhearts2035]

who?

[@DjJDtech]

@nicolasgirard2808 there are outliers on every diet

[@gisha6791]

bs

[@julianschweitzer5492]

he said low saturated fat high fiber is healthy i’m outta here!

[@aboutsupplies]

My partner increased her intake of pork, fish and eggs while decreasing her intake of rice. Before the diet changed, her heart was encased with fat, her x-ray shows. After the change, x-ray showed no fat around her heart. One person's experiment showed the consensus is wrong about animal foods.

[@Sec_coach]

That’s 100% fake comment

[@ScheveSneeuwSchuifSchep]

That's not an experiment, that's an anecdote

[@harvinderubhi5540]

Perhaps a case report exists on this incident, Would be great to see for confirmation.

[@chickenlittle829]

I’m trying to picture how an x-ray would show fat “encasing” the heart. Something is wrong with this report.

[@harvinderubhi5540]

@@chickenlittle829 maybe this less informed commentator means DXA scan. DXA scanning uses low level x-rays that pass through different types of tissues at different rates providing estimates of fat mass, fat-free mass, and bone density. This method is widely used to measure bone density and can also accurately measure fat mass. A limitation of most DXA scanners is the capacity to image extremely obese persons.

[@martsymartabacon2443]

The two ESSENTIAL nutrients for humans to thrive are fatty acids and proteins they happen to be delicious 😋. Don’t eat if not ESSENTIAL hello geniuses.

[@danfox8819]

Simon Hill, if you were so interested in human health, you would realize that food and exercise are about fifth and sixth on the list of important topics. For the love of God you need to interview someone that understands both the physics and the biology. You should have Jack Kruse on your show. Your head might explode.

[@nolanwardy7409]

They had him on not long ago.

[@georgecav]

Simon fortunately is not captive or a pusher for particular influencers unlike yourself and your pushing Jack whoever which no doubt is the real ooint of your tlpost. The beauty of Simon partly is that he interviews a wide range of experts with a scientists understanding of good questions to ask and unlike so many others does not need to settle on one guru to tell him what it's all about although I do get a bit concerned at times how much faith he has in dayspring

[@nolanwardy7409]

@@georgecavyou have so much to say about JK who you’ve never heard of lol? What a nut hugger.

[@georgecav]

@@nolanwardy7409 I have checked him out and found exactly what I expected. Donald Trump when he becomes president again should make Jack his chief scientist.

[@danfox8819]

@@georgecav Simon only interviews people that understand biochemistry. He needs to interview people that understand both biochemistry and physics. Without the physics, you will lack understanding because it’s the physics that drive all the biology.