Fast Swimming Technique - Butterfly Recovery

[@mskreidlerphysics3950]

You are so amazing at the details for superior technique. Your connections to the underlying physics, too, is just superior. I watch a lot of technique and swim videos on KZbin as a High School Swim teacher. No one comes close to the level of nuance that The Race Club brings to swimming.

[@theraceclub]

That is the greatest complement we have ever received!!! Thank you.

[@theraceclub]

Can we use this as a testimonial on our website?

[@badam9656]

Can you please help me. On my butterfly recovery my hands, palms and fingers are like too bent and what happens is I nearly enter with my wrist first and not the fingers. Can you please help?​@@theraceclub

[@timothydewa9096]

High arms raise is flexible for those who have short length of arms, just like flying fish catching up surface to move forward more and more powerful. Thanks to those two beauties from Hawaii, and the great teacher also.

[@theraceclub]

Yes, but the most important physical attribute is having great shoulder flexibility for extension.

[@nrico6666]

This is literally shoulder injury speedrun lmao, the arm is being bent at a very unnatural position putting strain on your shoulder. Nobody should ever try this. Even olympic swimmers dont do this

[@cooldude-i7e]

It is possible if you are hyper mobile and have enough strength for it

[@freespirit6724]

Thank you so much! This video make me clear my problem with shoulder and head position. I’ll fix it next week

[@theraceclub]

Awesome!

[@mistersod]

Interesting opinion, as always different coaches will have varied views on which arm entry is best or more efficient.

[@theraceclub]

That is correct. There are some pretty fast flyers out there using vertical recovery....but all of them have excellent shoulder flexibility.

[@theraceclub]

Nearly every swimming technique has a good and a bad side to it. This one requires more work, but results in more propulsion on the second down kick.

[@mistersod]

@@theraceclub Thanks for responding

[@BeaAndSam]

Great video! Thank you for sharing and I look forward to the next one.

[@theraceclub]

Thank you!! Glad you liked it.

[@paddlepower888]

Amazing. Would love to be young and flexible again, but doubt it'll happen. My approach: yards of body dolphin BD , mix in one arm fly OAF, then mix in full stroke FS. BD>BD>OAF>BD>OAF>BD>FS>BD>OAF>BD>OAF>FS etc. If it feels good, drop the BD. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[@theraceclub]

Me too!

[@indramani8888]

sir I get your point about both type arm recovery. I have some concern over here. My son is more kind of side arm recovery . And I find him having slower hand exit and entry , to and from the water which makes him slower flyer. So far I never tried the high arm recovery , since I was thinking it was a wrong tech to do so. As I have hardly seen top swimmers doing this way. So as you have suggested high arm cab be used with great sholder flexibility , can I try that with my son and how to conclude about his sholder flexibility. He is 8.6 years old by the way. Please assist, I really find it tough to pace him in fly.

[@theraceclub]

You can assess his shoulder extension flexibility by pulling his arms straight back from the back side at shoulder height (with head up). Grab the arms at the elbows, not at the wrists. If his elbows overlap, or touch together, he can do the vertical recovery. It requires more flexibility and strength to do so, but has advantages. If less flexibility, he needs to ascend his arms as they move forward, which doesn't require as much flexibility.

[@nikitaw1982]

I'd like to develop butterfly technique so can do hiit work outs. Thank you.

[@theraceclub]

You're welcome, good luck!

[@jaimecorvus6373]

great Gary. learn a lot from you; thanks so much.

[@theraceclub]

Very welcome

[@robohippy]

I didn't have any where close to that much shoulder flex, even when I was young.... Interesting point about high arm recovery...

[@theraceclub]

Yes. Not many have this amount of flexibility.

[@toonmouthtyne2482]

What is the reason for late breath?

[@theraceclub]

Less drag.

[@maxpan3616]

Nice 👍

[@theraceclub]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@danielkarkoska2051]

I noticed you're having them breathe late, can you explain the benefits of this technique? Also, I'm curious about where to find similar video equipment to use with my team. Suggestions?

[@theraceclub]

We teach late breath fly because it causes less drag and is easier for swimmers that learn it properly. It is not necessarily faster, as early breath technique can generate more propulsion. For these videos we use very expensive RED Epic cameras with 8K resolution. For our testing or analysis we are using GoPro8 cameras.

[@danielkarkoska2051]

@@theraceclub Thanks for the reply and clarification.

[@slim2047]

where the video for shoulder flexibility? thanks

[@theraceclub]

Some of the videos are only available on our website. You can find it here: theraceclub.com/video/dryland-pre-workout-shoulder-stretches/

[@____Ga]

Excellent video. Thank you!

[@theraceclub]

you are welcome!

[@handongfeng]

I thought recover her arms straight above her head is wrong because you need more energy to hold the arm. But this video shows that it depends on? sometimes it's better?

[@theraceclub]

We like the vertical recovery in butterfly for swimmers with excellent shoulder flexibility because it allows for more powerful coupling. You are right that this is less energy-efficient than having the hand in a lower position. This technique might be better suited for the 100 or 50 butterfly.

[@handongfeng]

@@theraceclub Thanks for the explanations. It makes sense to me. I will keep watching to see any swimmer use this technique in the future to get good results. Thanks.

[@MrSlimslime]

와 이게 차이가 많이나네

[@seel1350]

it looks like she sacrifices body position to get her arms that high

[@theraceclub]

No, it all comes from her amazing shoulder extension flexibility. Shoulder remain low in the water. Gary

[@newbynooob232]

Haha my butterfly is pretty bad, i hope this helps it get better!

[@theraceclub]

I know it will!

[@newbynooob232]

@@theraceclub any tips on how to time my breathing?

[@theraceclub]

@@newbynooob232 L/R/Front drill and come to one of our camps!

[@newbynooob232]

@@theraceclub i’ll certainly consider it in the future, thank you for your feedback!

[@mariatarazona7995]

Cuando nadaba creo que si elevaba el hombro más no estoy consciente si a la vez elevaba el pecho. ¡Excelente observación! Gracias

[@theraceclub]

De nada!

[@mariatarazona7995]

@@theraceclub Muy gentiles, Bendiciones

[@thibod07]

Surely amazing! But isn’t that pushing your luck asking for a shoulder injury to push your shoulder mobility to such an extreme? Is this something to even consider when passed 65 years old? My wisdom is telling me leave that mobility extreme to women that need to use an avantage they have on men which is shoulder mobility and as a man use your power something we have relatively easy.

[@theraceclub]

Yes Marc you're absolutely right. This technique is only recommended to swimmers with extreme shoulder flexibility. Good question!