Slavoj Zizek - Why white liberals love identity politics

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[@iwouldprefernotto49]

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[@thepipeline2839]

You mean Bartleby's?

[@freekshow]

I feel showered with truth and saliva

[@nazthe1_252]

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[@hmconner99]

LMFAO

[@jaymagen]

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[@nexusyang4832]

One of those things fits in a grail and the other you won't find near it.

[@bezbezzebbyson788]

Amazing sentence

[@ynntari2775]

I activated subtitles to understand his english and the subtitles thinks he's speaking italian

[@kingdiamondscream]

Same haha

[@LoganCrowe]

It get weirder if you change it manually to English. At one point it put that he said "...nudist se grinder gamecube young world press freedom drive kart racing."

[@czos9239]

Irish sheep farmers all over again! _"...well then fine ass... and there wasn't the sheep discount out tonight... did you have a good dog a boo-boo dragon..."_

[@jara1462]

you should practice more of the english

[@sanghelian]

Probably something to do how often he moves his hands.

[@KilgoreTroutAsf]

It is a way to congratulate yourself for having the right ideas without having to do absolutely anything at all about them.

[@100Mmore]

And covers up the more important issue of economic class

[@LikeYayHigh]

That's a good way to put it

[@100Mmore]

@Kvothe Windrunner I'm sure you believe and like your Department of Defense approved media, but the only people Communists killed in mass were fascists and imperialists in liberatory movements. Nothing wrong that.

[@100Mmore]

@Kvothe Windrunner Completely and utter wrong, you played directly right into the hands of capitalists. They laid out the bait and you took it. www.greanvillepost.com/2018/10/09/the-truth-about-the-soviet-gulag-surprisingly-revealed-by-the-cia/ The author of the gulag archipelago, as well as his wife, said the book was a work of fiction! He was also a fascist who praised Franco on spanish TV, and was disappointed when the Nazis surrendered. He deserted the red army instead of staying and fighting the nazis hahaha. There are anti-communist professors you know, they authored those studies. They come from the black book of communism, which lists Nazi soldiers as 'victims of communism' hahaha if those were the types of people that communists genocided, I wish they had killed 10x more. Mao killed a tremendous amount of imperialists, and their sympathizers, yes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with protecting your country from people who want to sell it's resources and people's labor off to the highest bidding foreign power. Globalist economy is the death nationalism and cultural & social relations. Mao did the right thing, it paid off, China is the most powerful country on earth now, and they're not even finished building the conditions for socialist transition while maintaining their social customs and nationalism. Yes they also lied about Hitler but I'm not a brain dead rightard so I don't care.

[@100Mmore]

@Augustus Mars oh yes kill commies for trying to help society progress further in equality and societal well being, assuring basic necessities for everyone. they're so evil that they even kill violent racists and imperialists lol you're either a rich kid or extremely stupid

[@iamawuss]

“We are not even allowed to be evil on our own.”

[@elsafralves]

So accurate!

[@FFede-ji9lv]

@Herra Tossavainen And exactly what kind of s**t do you think must be told about "blacks" or "jews" (the entire ethnic group)? I truly believe that there is nothing to say about any entire ethnic group, just to some ideologies (like US version of liberalism) o individuals.

[@christiano9693]

There are only two options, it's massive racism because evil borns from intelligence, an animal can't be evil, only the closest to human animals show evil. Or it's because they considering they so backwards, ignorant and child like that all its another's one fault, my little child is very good, some one misled him. Child are not accountable. The second one it's more probable, it's also racist, but not so massively.

[@Vdevelasko]

That being said colonialism fucked africa pretty bad and exacerbates some already existing problems. Which doesn't deny people's right to be potentially violent, crazy, evil... etc

[@KuyruksuzSatyr]

Being on moral high ground automatically makes you feel like you always win the arguments.

[@dayum626]

@Michael Cueva you're mostly right, just what Nietzsche meant in detail was that god is a creation of humans, used to keep people on track and not do evil. Throughout history this was a very important authority because people feared god and therefore did as they were told by him and maybe him only. But society has evolved and as you said a moral code has been established outside church and religious guidelines, laws are in place and work as well. So there is no more need for a god and many people abandoned the idea of his existence, hence he "died".

[@MarshallLloyd]

Easier for them to win all the arguments when they insist on doing all the framing, invent all the terminology, and definitions! Don't fall for it. Just because they have their framework doesn't mean I have to abandon mine even if they insist on judging me for it.

[@brianherman4912]

@Rafael Silva Daniel Nicely said!

[@GeorgeTsiros]

"moral high ground" is a void concept, since a _person_ has no "morality" property, only actions can _sometimes_ be characterized as moral or immoral. The only thing a person _is_ , is a _person_ . They are not virtuous or evil, good or bad, moral or immoral, intelligent or stupid. Only actions can _sometimes_ be classified as such.

[@GeorgeTsiros]

@@jcudal32 THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM

[@Ale-mv3gr]

He reminds me of my father, he was also a philosopher. Miss him a lot.

[@tyyer]

your dad sounds like he was an awesome guy. I'm sorry for your loss

[@PumpedAaron]

Yeah, Bless your heart Mister.

[@airbornepizza]

💚

[@nikusmar2085]

Don't lie bro I know your dad...

[@shookone568]

May he Rest In Peace.

[@JeffreyGillespie]

I wonder how Slavoj is doing with the whole "not touching your face" thing during Covid-19 LOL

[@LancesArmorStriking]

The longest he's lasted is 10 minute and by then he looked like he was about to explode, just GOTTA do the cocaine nose thing

[@BlackLabelSlushie]

Also, the way he practically sneezes when he talks.... seems a bit contagious to me 😂

[@josephfoster1987]

Man needs to step outside the library and work on his immune system.

[@olegwiththeknowledge1729]

Jeffrey Gillespie mind your own fucking business

[@robertstan298]

You do understand touching your face is not a medically dangerous act in itself, right? He's under personal isolation right now, would you think that his house furniture is infested with the Coronavirus and he shouldn't touch his face after he moves a chair or what? lol

[@EGreeneConversations]

This dude is literally and figuratively spitting facts.

[@noegojimmy]

What fascinates me the most is his ability to argue complex ideas in the simplest way, rarely diverging to long from the main line. The lamest individual could comprehend his points, but when you read comments on his videos, you somewhat get the picture of the mainstream mentality. Zizek here literally argued what I have been thinking about for a long time and could never summarise it.

[@ezioleonardo17]

It's weird that liberalism and socialism/ communism is put in the same branch of politics in the US, and that liberalism is on the left in the US. In France Liberalism is more on the right with the Republicans.

[@Rayhuntter]

it's a strategy used by capitalist propagandists - reductio ad absurdum. Otherwise there is a risk that ordinary people wake up to reality.

[@MrHamtits]

@@Rayhuntter Wrong. Sometimes liberalism denotes an economic structure and other times it refers to social liberalism. In the case above hes refering to the social liberal types. Not everything is a capitalist conspiracy

[@Rayhuntter]

@@MrHamtits and people on the economic left are intentionally associated with the so called "social liberals" by the ruling capitalist class when they have nothing to do with each other. Capitalist propaganda 101, if ever there was one.

[@bdfunke]

Socialists in America hijacked the word liberal in the 20s. They thought they could be an easier sell with that label.

[@Rayhuntter]

@@bdfunke liberals in America are anti-socialist. Neoliberalism = global capitalism.

[@slotenmakerdenhaag]

I can’t help it I just love Zisek. He simply always seems to find the essential subject and it’s always highly original. The real struggle is to find universality! Spot-on

[@jzen1455]

I barely understand what the hell he's talking about, but he's entertaining nonetheless.

[@Miniweet9167]

I’m white. I’m a social Democrat. I don’t like identity politics because I firmly believe what you do defines you not who you are. Don’t play their game by pigeon holing and generalizing.

[@Sikke_Kok]

Because your not American.

[@moose2959]

He reminds me of my father always high on speed and trying to warn me of the end of the world

[@maximbaazov]

So what do you think now after Chaz and all the shit that happends in the US by liberals still don't think its going down the drain ?

[@tylo8328]

This got a laugh out of me congrats

[@brumhelldah917]

@@maximbaazov nah i think he just spits facts but he does sound like a cryptic father

[@parishermianos5159]

One day I want to play a snorting game, when he does the thing with his nose, you snort a line

[@Wilson84KS]

@@parishermianos5159 Do you think you will survive that? I really wonder why he does that, is he taking speed or coke or is his nose just itching from the mustache and nose hair? I absolutely understand some of this when people are nervous, I tend to correct my hair all the time, but this is too much, he is even pulling up like he tries to get all the rest stickig in the nose.

[@JasonBourdon]

The importance of his message is equally proportionate to the difficulty of listening to it..

[@christophermorgan3261]

To say nothing of his disgust habit of compulsively wiping (dozens of times), coughing etc. . his work full of "I'm so clever" wordplay, and obfuscation.

[@LeSyd1984]

Prof Zizek is possibly quite interesting in written form. Just, gosh... the speech impediment and thick accent.

[@THOMASCOLTON1]

@Richard B you're disgusting dude, he is smart & learned.

[@rogi32]

I understand everything he sais without any problems

[@ImGodTheMaryBanger]

Yeah I didn't get a word of it and closed captions won't work lol Edit: actually they do work but it doesn't look English

[@HSOON38]

I can give you a story that happend with me with Liberals. Few days back an actor was a judge on a LGBTQ show called Rupaul drag race and he called out the audacity of one non-muslim contestant who wore hijab in his drag costume and asked him if islam is anti gay! You cant imagine the backlash that liberals had upon this actor. So i tweeted back to one of the famous ones and told him that I’m living in a muslim country and applauded the gesture and he continued to teach what islam is really about keep in mind he’s white non muslim teaching me, the one raised muslim, after two day there was purge campaign against homosexuals during the “holy” month of ramadan so i sent him pictures and links about it and HE BLOCKED ME this is the NEW LEFT all political correctness and no true principles

[@minzblatt]

I'm against PC-politics to some extent. I dont think hate speech should be allowed. We saw what happened to Jews after centuries of demonisation in Europe and we also see other forms of this ingroup-outgroup identity politics of the right wing (Mexicans & Muslims) and their consequence on hate crimes. Thats why I dont buy into this. Also: It's not the US' job to police the world or get involved in business that's not there's. Eventhough they dont admit it however this was and this still is the ultimate foreign policy of the DC establishment represented by folks Biden, Obama or Bush. They're all the same when it comes to exploiting the world.

[@ppazpppaz8618]

M E You hit the nail on the head. Identity politcs is right wing, racist politcs, masquerading as progressive or leftwing.

[@ppazpppaz8618]

Timemaster f Who is he?

[@wapleviathan4006]

Well I guess I am against hypocrisy right now. We can't tolerate hypocrisy right?? As like other Abrahamic religion, Islam is indeed anti-homosexual so what has he done to you is baffled me. Just do not understand why they support an ideology that is against their very basic value. Tobe honest, this is frustating. They should be in the front line to fight for their values regardless of any religions

[@DZ-hh5dw]

Yeah but that's a pretty stupid idea to imply that Islam is uniquely anti-gay. I mean thanks to Christianity, half of Africa is vehemently anti-gay to the point where you can even get the death penalty for being gay. A lot of this kind of legislation was thanks to evangelicals from America lobbying in their governments. Christian Eastern Europe isn't particularly friendly to gay either. So no, the problem isn't Islam but rather the people using Islam to push their homophobic agenda. Its the same shit as some Christians in Europe and the states. As with everything, you can't just paint a black and white image. Liberals do this, and judging by your comment, you seem to also be doing this. Ironically, even in this video Slavoj talks positively of Muslims (Malcolm X)

[@michaelhussey440]

I have a friend who loves to announce to others that he is 'a citizen of nowhere' , and I can always see the boast in this: '' nearly everyone is tied to their cultural and national identity and so handicapped by their biased and narrow minded outlook , only a handful of culturally advanced people like ME can see clearly the realities of our world''.

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

That is true in a sense though. Why do you marry yourself to these hierarchies that are against you?

[@foodchewer]

"citizen of nowhere" sounds very American to me. In his attempt to be universalist, he has revealed his parochialism. We can only be so objective, and we can only expect others to be so objective. And this is not a bad thing unless we let it be. This, to me, is what internationalism, intersubjectivity, and solidarity are all about: recognizing there is no true, objective, universal perspective, but that we have to come together in a dialogue, a dialectic of different, subjective perspectives to find as much peace and understanding as possible.

[@khalidamajoud4114]

​@@GalacticNovaOverlord That would make for au uprooted and confused person. It's a handicap, not an advantage, imo.

[@alphabetpeople2902]

cultural and national identities are fascistic and satanic.

[@erickgomez7775]

Your friend claims to have achieved superhuman objectivity.

[@odiwalker3973]

Zizek puts himself in a very difficult position: having to explain that 'liberal' ethos, narratives and perspective are somewhat correct and necessary to a certain point and at the same time explaining the ideological limitations of these same ethos, narratives and perspectives and the underlying problems these people impose on any serious project for revolutionary change.

[@cosminblk8359]

He even starts to look like Hegel.

[@ewancummins4975]

Holy smokes! I see it now.

[@loveonacid4253]

Zizek is such a smart guy. Dissapointing to see so many comments about his tics and not his ideas.

[@WheelChairwayToHeaven]

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[@s.s.6141]

Yes agree its stupid make fun of tics but alsp nothing to get offend of that .

[@ReplicantBattyman]

@@WheelChairwayToHeaven Wow you're so smart

[@JM-yf3ol]

“The true struggle is the struggle for universality”. If liberals admitted to this they’d have to drop their Id.Pol. BE and actually have solidarity with the poor and working class. The one thing liberals are loathe to do is help the poor, or cede that their own wealth may be immoral.

[@garylake1676]

What is 'immoral' is but a matter of perspective, your perpsective of immoral defines who you are, so as soon as you get to define what is immoral or not, you gain identity, I cant see how its possible to close the circle, unless Mother Nature rocks up with Covid-19 and asks you to choose your true moraility.

[@acidsunrise]

Yes-as Slavoj pointed out victimhood has great value.

[@garylake1676]

@@acidsunrise Indeed it does, by trying to be the smallest giant, you have to demand that the smallest dwarves be taller than you. How dare they have the temerity to position themselves so that you tower over them even when you are hunched over full of self loathing in uber victim mode.

[@acidsunrise]

Gary Lake .Very well put.

[@johnwilson6324]

@Jay Milla Liberals aren't pro-idpol. They're anti-white. White women and white LGBT people get shat on and are viewed with suspicion as potential traitors. Who is the main driving force behind anti-whiteness? The Culture of Critique: www.bitchute.com/video/KUkk9xisGinI/

[@clarac.6570]

Strong accent, funky respiratory problems and an excellent and accurate analysis. The most powerful way of uniting different people is through their similar antagonisms.

[@Tychoxi]

because otherwise they'd have to join the struggle

[@denxero]

a struggle they'd have to conduct essentially against themselves. Either in the sense that many of them are Bourgeois to begin with, or wish they were Bourgeois and hence have to fight against their pavlovianly conditioned desires.

[@citycrusher9308]

lol -Zizek espouses fem rhetoric. He is just as involved in identity politics as anyone else.

[@ppazpppaz8618]

I see a lot of posters here who should be reading the world socialist website www.wsws.org/ For a clear analysis of the right wing politcs of identity politcs this website hits the nail on the head.

[@TheFlipsta97]

The rabbi jokes really makes sense if youve come from a low income background and gone into academia. Arriving at a prestigious school on an academic scholarship it really hits home that you're an outsider, especially considering that everyone else is there because their parents can afford the six figure tuition fees. I always particular enjoyed hearing the working class be discussed at parties and social events. Like with all due respect, I could take you to my hometown, to the shittiest bar in the area, and show you just how wrong you actually are. Consider the following, Donald Trump swept union territories (i.e. Pennsylvania) because while he was promising them a future, the democratic party was more concerned with transgenderism, immigration and environmentalism. Maybe these issues are important, maybe they aren't, frankly I don care, nor have a solid opinion on the matter. But the average blue collar Joe simply doesn't concern himself with such matters (at least o in any meaningful way), rather he concerns himself with his work and income. There's a significant drift in what the party elites of the modern left believe, and what their voting constituents believe. I'm not hugely into politics, I mostly use this as a pleasant background noise whilst I conduct my research, but I feel I had to share what I had found, comming from such a unique perspective.

[@anonymousee716]

"the last respectable prejudice"

[@holliisixx]

Thank you.

[@TheFlipsta97]

@Andrew Friend Hahaha. I chose to do my masters. I am strongly considering a PhD. Perhaps I am a psychopath, but I can say with the utmost certainty, that I am a masochist.

[@AimanDhai]

the same is happening in Malaysia, but a little different where the right supporters which usually comes from rural areas do not concern their leaders involved in corruption like pandora papers as long their future is guaranteed, even though it involves racism. For context, in Malaysia's constitution, there is a specific term used which directly translates to human rights exists as long as "the special status of Malays and bumiputeras( a race of indigenous but ironically it does not include all indigenous people and cultures) is preserved, on paper, it is a racist and discriminating law or idk what to call it. So with this so-called thing, we called "ketuanan Melayu" which directly translates to Malay supremacy. So their kids will have education, special privileges like a uni only accepting Malays, a hedge fund only for Malays, a school that only accept Malays and so on and so forth. As a Malay myself I understand this perspective and experience it first hand. where the left concerns are political correctness. Where they fight for equality, human rights, women rights, anti-corruption things and all other politically correct issues. A concept that is generally very insignificant towards the people in rural areas. This comes to a really weird situation where the highly privileged people trying to politically correct people in rural areas what they should do what should concern them, that idea is alien from them.

[@kkounal974]

I mean there is also a lot of fear mongering about trans people and immigrants, those "culture war" issues have also played a role.

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

Its funny to me that one of the wealthiest homes in my suburb has written Black Lives Matter written in colored chalk in front of their very nice stone walkway. These are the same people who are too snobby to even wave to their neighbors. Obviously too good for the rest of us but very worried about black people. Its really weird.

[@anonymousee716]

it was pointed out to me by my Yugoslavian ethics teacher that he had some doorknocker come around to ask if he would donate for some far off place where children were hungry. he said to the person "well, what about the homeless guy that is three blocks from here every day? what will you do for him?" and the doorknocker got mightily offended and left. it's easier to love the poor afar off, when you think they are the victim of circumstance and hate the poor up close because they, by our system of virtues, brought it upon themselves.

[@tvanced8583]

They're not worried about black people. They are worried about how they're perceived by their fellow snobs.

[@bob45]

LOL

[@tomatom9666]

@@anonymousee716 The difference is, the poor person in the far off country will worship the foreigner that helps him and narcissists flock to such opportunities.

[@Richallmight2]

still best channel posting Zizek That initial joke is classic

[@reyPiti]

I like your name

[@brianlinville439]

how is your inferno doing?

[@bzdzb]

Ted Kaczynski said all of this in Industrial Society and Its Future in 1995.

[@thehypest6118]

I recognise you friend

[@crs2379]

Based and Ted pilled.

[@tomthetinker1024]

I think that was one of the first TED talks. Then he decided to become Santa Claus, mailing surprises to naughty kids.

[@Tucker_Talks]

Identity politics is the 'divide et impera' of human rights

[@brooklynlotus]

yes it is ! People will follow any apparent racial issue,any issue except corporate rule.

[@laurier3348]

We need more marxist professors on universities to make identity politics great again.

[@laurier3348]

@Augustus Mars they are already in hell, they lost contact with the real world, poor souls.

[@robertstan298]

@@laurier3348 LMAO... you're replying to a fascist and going off about rationality and "souls"... Good grief what a clutserfuck of stupid the comment sections is.

[@laurier3348]

@@robertstan298 Fascism and socialism are both big government bureaucracies oppressing the people.

[@__-wv1my]

Here's the paradox: How can a person empathize with someone that they have nothing but contempt for?

[@NelsonStJames]

Because it's not about empathy, it's about soft control.

[@Avengerie]

Easy: by realizing that you do you for yourself and that Trump doesn't offer any solutions, even if it entails voting for a woke ditzy bartender.

[@laserbrain7774]

you are confusing empathy and sympathy. You are not the only person who has this problem.

[@KTWEBS]

way to miss the whole point

[@EasyKiwi111]

@MrGuvnah I mean I don't know if she is really anti-white, I mean she did stan Sanders, despite being criticized for endorsing an "old white man" by the mainstream liberal media. What did she do to make you think this?

[@SkremoMcThrftsto]

In another Slavoj video, KZbin captions thought he was speaking Dutch. Now they think he's speaking Italian. He's clearly speaking Salivan.

[@jonathankohn9231]

“You reserve for yourself the universal position” 💯

[@AlexthunderGnum]

In our language there is a term for it - "кокетство". What these people do is called - "кокетничать". It means saying things about themselves just to provoke compliments towards themselves, or saying bad things about themselves implying that these are obviously not true.

[@johnathankwoodard3021]

In English, the concept you describe we call "fishing for compliments". However, this phenomenon also assumes a paradigm of sin and absolution which can only be conferred through religion (socjus, in this case).

[@bob45]

That sounds like a French word.

[@н.джед.т]

​@@bob45 It is. The word is 'coquette', in English 'to play the coquette'... The subtext of flirtation is very strong in either English or Russian.

[@kaibekkeli9140]

PR campaign: "remember not to touch your face, to lower the risk of contracting Covid." Zizek: "Enjoy your symptom"

[@特立独行-z3i]

Kai Bekkeli He really needs to stay home in these difficult days.

[@wrathford]

@@特立独行-z3i he is. these are uploads from old seminars lol

[@特立独行-z3i]

Joshua Kaye I’m glad to hear that.

[@robertstan298]

That's not what PR (also known as propaganda) is, dumbass. I think you meant PSA.

[@onurbole7921]

Also Zizek: The woman is the symptom of man.

[@angrymurloc7626]

6:31 typing this to remember this really interesting point: Asserted universality of identity still presumes particular authority on the measure and structure of the space on which identity is placed. If you say you think everybody is equal, you force everyone to be equal in your definition of equal, which is a word that is often deeply loaded with subjectivity

[@Avengerie]

Moral relativism is the way to go.

[@JordEmery]

With your words !

[@toneman335]

It's a psychotic condition called "White Guilt"

[@OrangeBananaMonster]

"We are not even allowed to be evil on our own."

[@sarahmasia6947]

If Peterson is Kermit this guy's Daffy Duck

[@jacobmojapelo2448]

Haha

[@Borreguita89]

that is kind of cute

[@spec1147]

Bahahahahaha

[@elliotjohnson1258]

lmao

[@Aenimus12]

😆

[@timgibson993]

I’m never sharing a wrap with this dude

[@JayDagny]

it's a good thing he apologizes every time he uses that joke because I've heard him tell that joke about 8 times

[@HakWilliams]

This might be the best 11 minutes of Zizek ever recorded.

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

"Nostalgia for the present." Awesome term. 🤣😅

[@jasperreichardt]

how can so many people not recognize this? i can not get my head around it. i see literally half of my left friends sink deeeeeep into identity politics. And they never come out again - they are insulted if you point it out.

[@KateNip]

This is perfect and exactly what I've been trying to do online. There are so many people who fell into the idea of Qanon. Those are the exact people we should reach out to and try to talk to. They are a very large base of people expressing that they are suffering under the establishment, and showing them that the "Deep State" they fear is just capitalism would be a great way getting a lot of people on board with our messaging. The problem I have with identity politics is while it is true we need to push for equality, we cant just ignore the issues of those who's social conditioning has lead them into a trap. We feed the narrative of conservatives when we attack all white people, because some people just don't understand what we are talking about. I also really like Zizek's take on the idea that all of the evil can be because of one group bc it also feeds into the same white supremist narrative of attributing some quality only to white people, and while we talk about all of this "whos to blame" shit we still arnt addressing the material concerns of the people who need help.

[@LinguisticLifeform]

@August 12 2022 The Movie then read it again until you do.

[@roquemaciel]

@August 12 2022 pratice your reading skills

[@foodchewer]

Exactly. Based and nuanced and actually focused on problem solving. In America (I'm assuming from what you said that we're both Americans here) politics has really shifted much more to "fixing" cultural and social issues rather than material/political/economic ones and this has made us a bunch of petty, squabbling birds fighting over crumbs of ideology instead of real projects. Most of us feel the real projects, the concrete, tangible stuff, is out of our hands now, and in many ways this is true, since we are in many ways living under a kind of oligarchy where state and corporate power have been merged. At least that's my understanding. We need to address the root problems again and stop focusing on "holding whites accountable" like the progressives say or "holding J*ws accountable" (censored so that hopefully my comment won't disappear) like the traditionalist right say.

[@andyxan3904]

this is not capitalism who created deep state. it's left-liberal oligarchy who did that. there are countries with capitalism and without deep state. and all socialist countries consisted of deep state for 100%. woke liberalism is a new colonialism

[@nickelbutt]

I think the challenging part tho is it seems that a large chunk of these people we need to change the minds of, will not listen. Then consider that really we need to convince those that vote far-right, and those people are likely even more entrenched. I agree with all this, and have felt this was for a while, but I think that this can only be a piece of the solution. We also need some cunning alongside.

[@bhg123ful]

Zizek is certainly a brilliant thinker, if one does their best to get over his speech impediment and is able to tune it out and listen carefully.

[@christophersatake2851]

It’s a Star Trek fantasy. All the alien races have ethnic identities while the humans are a universality.

[@dechenmo8966]

Identity politics is the worst way to deflect reasonable political discussions and debates.

[@ppazpppaz8618]

de chenmo I see a lot of posters here who should be reading the world socialist website www.wsws.org/ For a clear analysis of the right wing politcs of identity politcs this website hits the nail on the head.

[@douglasphillips5870]

When the doctors said that we shouldn't touch our faces, I thought "I hope Zizek is ok"

[@bendirval3612]

I really like listening to Zizek but I need good English subtitles.

[@brianlam1663]

I know the irony of my words, but thank God for Slavov Zizek!!!

[@twilit]

Wow that’s such a cool idea which he discusses about Malcom X’s use of X.

[@csapienza001]

"Nostalgia for the present"

[@basstrip73]

In my experience identity obsessed liberals also support every US/NATO “humanitarian” war and the efforts of the US and Europe to force liberal capitalism and social liberalism down the throat of every country in the world (or as in the case of, say, Saudi Arabia, they don’t care about repression because the west gets what they want from those countries). Compare to a place like Syria which is constantly punished for not allowing western capitalists to plunder it economically. Western foreign policy is very much based on cultural and/or economic supremacy and, ironically, upper middle class identity liberals obsessed with “white supremacy” largely support it. A question I often ask is why does the west (Greater Europe) think it has a right to dominate the entire world and dictate norms to other countries at gun point or with deadly economic “sanctions”? Should not countries be allowed to develop as they see fit, at their own pace without liberal capitalist imperialists breathing down their necks? Take North Africa and the Middle East (Western Asia) where the UK, France and the USA have been meddling in a major way for well over a hundred years by supporting despots, starting wars, fomenting coups etc. How can these countries ever work out their problems and progress socially and politically with the US and its European vassals wreaking deadly havoc throughout the region? Zizek and many on the left overlook present day imperialism completely.

[@ilnigromante666]

Liberals spouse "humanitarian" interventionism. It's not a stretch to state that liberals and neoconservatives intersect in foreign policy.

[@EGnoSecondG]

Indeed. I cannot help but think about the protests in Lebanon now..

[@ppazpppaz8618]

I see a lot of posters here who should be reading the world socialist website www.wsws.org/ For a clear analysis of the right wing politcs of identity politcs this website hits the nail on the head.

[@billbrown1335]

Please, Africa gets enough aid, that in comparison---the Marshal plan could have rebuilt Europe 100 times. Failed cultures need excuses. Imperialism isn't why Africa didn't invent "texting" but Tiny Israel only 70 yrs old did. Excuses excuses

[@artemis01]

The problem with present day imperialism is that it is controlled and run by progressives, they just run it out of the State Department with "aid"

[@Wissahickon]

This is why I’m skeptical of heritage months. You can dish out months to certain groups, but that only implies that the year itself is white. It reinforces white defaultism. Also, I’m so happy he talked a little about Malcolm X.

[@Mahaveez]

I don't think "the white society" is even the default at play here, really. We just don't have an easier way to talk about clinging to a troubled sense of universality than with racially loaded terms like "white liberals".

[@NUCKINGFUTSCO]

When KZbin's caption think he's speaking Italian 🤣🤣🤣

[@toomuchinformation]

Isn't he? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@roxyguts23]

I was in high school when I read handmaids tale and I never liked it. I thought there was something wrong with me because my teacher pointed it out that I was the only one with that response from the rest of the girls in class. of course It was not for the same reasons as Zizek (Was just a kid from a charter school in a low income community) I might have to read it again to remember why I didn’t like it

[@MattB619]

If you didn't like it, we should probably put you in a re-education camp and give you therapy so we can "fix" you and then you'll like it, just like you are supposed to. At least that is what some other people in this thread would like to do.

[@marienemo6273]

we aim to treat all people equally rather than divide them into groups so they can be easily dismissed.

[@bozoc2572]

Video thumbnail is priceless!!

[@melissac5740]

Classic zizek: 5:32 " and So on and so on, Sniff Sniff"

[@sabrinakrisb4672]

Wow this is great I wish more people could hear this

[@harding10B]

For gods sake somebody give that man a handkerchief.

[@DooMRunneR]

he has a tick, always had this "problem"

[@truthseeker1871]

a handkerchief. Right. coming right up.

[@_smhmd]

Autogenerated captions are in Italian as opposed to English, OP.

[@antox00]

Pretty hilarious though

[@WarrenSenkowski]

Probably because of the gratuitous use of hand gestures ;)

[@propkid]

Last time I watched a Zizek vid they were in Dutch. No joke.

[@DrakesdenChannel]

Slovenia livid rn.

[@elliotjohnson1258]

This guy so confirms what I've noticed in a lot of white liberals, it's really gotten on my nerves. Glad someone else sees the subtle racism for what it is.

[@AlexKenas]

I despise the constant victim delusions that thrives in modern western society, which is complimented by corporations trying to avoid offending people in order to retain revenue. This is seen by Planet Fitness claiming to be judgment free despite its exaggerated and negative portrayals of fit people and its lunk alarm that activates to shame people working out loudly or dropping weights. This is also demonstrated by ESPN removing a Robert Lee from reporting due to his name.

[@MrClockw3rk]

Glad he jumped on the pile of people who thought the same thing about 5 years ago while receiving the level of credit of a novel thinker.

[@caixiuying8901]

@@AlexKenas lol. leftists and rightists both dislike corporations for doing this, but for completely different reasons. Leftists dislike performative political correctness Rightists are delusional for thinking these corporations are pandering to leftist ideology and being "woke" when you could just ask a Leftist and they'll probably criticize these same businesses for being performative.

[@caixiuying8901]

@@AlexKenas having that said, fuck the Lunk alarm, everyone should be able to yell when hitting a PR Still think Rightists accusing businesses of being "woke" is a stupid argument though

[@ReverberatingTenor]

I think we have a tendency to break down larger problems into smaller frameworks that we can easily assign solutions or fix. Classism and the consumerism that molds us into rigid predictable paths is often ignored by over exaggerated problems or caricatures of issues in society. There are people who are ostracized excessively for having certain conditions or identifying in one group or another. However it seems those that are hurting the most are rarely given attention. The solutions provided offer surface level acceptance usually that doesn't normalize whatever group they are seeking to help.

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

Zizek: Let's not treat each other as individuals. "let's link our antagonisms." (?)☹️ But the first part of this is excellent.

[@peternyc]

Zizek really understands the importance of Bernie encouraging white working class and poor Republican voters to hear his message. This is the point: identity politics is Marx's false consciousness. True consciousness is understanding that social class is "universal," not identity.

[@peternyc]

@Augustus Mars Ok to you too, Mr. Non-Commie.

[@peternyc]

Augustus Mars Are you saying that you are a fascist, or that I am a fascist?

[@peternyc]

@Vasilijan Nikolovski Because the 2 party duopoly have divided the country along the lines of identity and culture, not social class and economics. The "white - working class" have gradually joined the GOP since the late 60's. From the 1930's up to the early 70's, the Democrats represented productivity over financial ownership, but now both parties represent financial ownership. Neither party represents productivity. For the record, Trump's rhetoric was similar to Bernie's in this context. Trump said he wanted to bring jobs back, etc., - economic nationalism. This economic nationalism should amount to productivity, but I'm not sure Trump really wants that, or if he understands that in order for real flow of income and spending to occur, monopolies need to be broken up. America is extremely "top heavy" and believes that its empire needs monopoly. This is the paradox of empire - like the dinosaurs. Empire and dinosaurs both suffer and die from giantism. The working class, if they are to be capitalist, needs an economy comprised of mostly small and medium sized privately owned companies, not corporations. Otherwise, the only other solution would be socialism, which would put ownership in the hands of the entire population, not shareholders. To get back to why the emphasis on "white" working class, I'll add that those whites who defected to the GOP did so with the blessings of the current Democratic Party. They are known as the New Democrats, as opposed to FDR's New Dealers. New Democrats are Ivy League, professional, and snobs. This is no place for working people. The New Democrats are the modern version of the old Rockefeller Republicans of half a century ago. The political spectrum in America has been measured by identity and culture for too long. It can't survive like this much longer. The measurement must revert back to economics and productivity. The only other choice is war.

[@artemis01]

Identity politics is the result of people taking their instruction from advertising. In consumer culture, the splintering of society into "focus groups" is a natural outcome. That progressives were tricked into thinking "identity" had anything to do with Marxism or revolution proves only that they are the result of TV propaganda just like their domestic political enemies who vote for Trump and shop at Walmart. The status quo always wins if that's the only voice you listen to

[@peternyc]

Simon Barfield The working class want Med4all, free university, affordable housing, etc. In short, they want to lower the cost of living and doing business. The ruling class have monopoly control over the cost of living and ding business. They want us to be in debt till we die. Both parties are in agreement on this. Bernie seemed real in 2016, but less so in 2020. We still need solutions to our problems, regardless.

[@stephensuddick274]

To say that one side of the divide embraces identity politics more than the other is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have heard today. And I hear a lot of ridiculous things.

[@stuh4932]

I’ve never heard a person I so dislike to listen to more than this guy.

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

That is the greatest way to put it that I've ever heard. Now I understand myself a bit better. Cheers.

[@bernardo_olafson]

watching this makes you understand why the average person touches his face fifty thousand times a day.

[@honestpat7789]

do you think he might pose a significant covid threat :/

[@Dilkingt0nne]

Zizek just drags up the average for everyone else

[@James-iz9qb]

This is actually very insightful and deeply correct

[@stevenlight5006]

He speaking about human nature. We will never change .we are out of the garden ,pride always goes befor the fall ,gravity is ,u want beat Trump? Be more open ,more frank ,more honest.

[@jmcitr382]

Why are there always no subtitles in zizek's videos?? We definitely need them

[@marshallodom1388]

I love how he speaks for everybody.

[@Gurci28]

0:19!

[@aster.ækes]

It used to be "lie and hide". Now it's "f*** me, you got me."

[@cwdrock]

Never ever give this man cocaine.

[@davidemura4444]

The not entirely rare but uncommon quick one-two sniffle is my favourite atm

[@amosjulien2539]

universalism ... a good thing for all of us today.

[@peaknonsense2041]

Because they lost the argument a long time ago so race is all they have left.

[@Mahaveez]

I'm a civic nationalist and I like Slavoj Zizek. His ability to cut to the heart of the matter puts me in utter awe. He may be the best cultural commentator since Nietzsche.

[@simmy3666]

I agree, Zizek reminds me of his writings

[@alphabetpeople2902]

Nationalists are mentally ill.

[@dominicparker-tc7sb]

Hahaha shut up you mad bastards.

[@muzammilibrahim5011]

​​@@simmy3666 In many ways he is the opposite of Nietzsche actually. There are no modern personalities who can be said to be similar to Nietzsche.

[@denisloukeris2523]

He understands that identity politics is the problem he is a genius exactly moving more to the left rainbow coalition Fred Hampton they both think alike Fred is more pragmatic less philosofical

[@fidel2695]

Everytime I see his videos I end clinged up on knowing exactly which are the books behind the examples that he sets

[@BMADRAY85]

Playing the victim role: Manipulator portrays him- or herself as a victim of circumstance or of someone else's behavior in order to gain pity, sympathy or evoke compassion and thereby get something from another. Caring and conscientious people cannot stand to see anyone suffering and the manipulator often finds it easy to play on sympathy to get cooperation.

[@duckmasterflex]

Turning on subtitles is fun

[@stalingrad66]

Remember the cat who always wanted to catch tweety bird? He speaks like Sylvester the cat.

[@_karla._]

the photo of the girl in the thumbnail has actually been put out of context a lot. In the video where this still image has been taken from, she isn't even mad about anything, she just happens to have an expressive face.

[@bdfunke]

Hilarious that Google peppers a Marxist’s speech with commercials.

[@douglasgiarletti7910]

The working class must have class conscience and adblock conscience

[@MK_ULTRA420]

That's what true Marxism looks like.

[@JeermynRex]

Marx was sponsored by Engels

[@anttam117]

Slavoj Zizek: So, anyone here in this whole room doesn't know my classic jew joke? **one lone guy out of hundreds raises his hand** Slavoj Zizek: Ok, so there were all these Jews at the synagogue....

[@VivaTunita]

next video: Slavoj Zizek - Carrot Cake Recipe: "- Ok, so.. there's this joke about some jews in a sinagoge..."

[@PrimitiveBaroque]

I don't understand why Chomsky simply cannot find anything significant with what Zizek says, at least here, which is mostly an expression of his own analysis of ideology. It's clear that Zizek formulates how certain attitudes limit our ways of understanding the world around us. If Zizek is right, Chomsky himself is also involved in his own ideology that limits his capacity to understand anything outside of empirical reasoning, which is bizarre because language is also in part established by conventions.

[@Fonzleberry]

Imagine coronavirus spreading in a world of Zizeks.

[@HakWilliams]

Week 2: herd immunity achieved

[@imrtdet]

This was interesting...and so on...and so on.

[@felixt5532]

This is why I love Quebec, we never renounced our identity for the sake of universality

[@citycrusher9308]

I wish Quebec would separate. Then they really WOULD have a separate identity

[@felixt5532]

@Augustus Mars lol u a filthy anglophone?

[@felixt5532]

@Augustus Mars wow dude, these arguments are fucking belters. Guess I got rektd

[@Bix12]

OMG - this is so bang on the nail head!

[@uniktbrukernavn]

"The coke was angry that day, my friends" -George Cokeanza

[@ocan1033]

It's the "Down With Us" phenomenon. There is no greater joy derived than asserting that one's own country, race, citizens etc are the worst. The reproach is the entire point and is absent any concession of the positive or effort to suggest a functional alternative.

[@dereckandre3485]

Slavoj Zizek is officially my favorite political commentator.

[@erickgomez7775]

For me he is my favorite comedian

[@1c9ds96]

It’s scary how accurately zizkes description is to Biden

[@Longtack55]

Ok, so identifying the former guy as a convicted sexual offender is unfair or just me believing that character has no place in choosing a political leader?

[@benjamintrevino325]

Doesn't everyone have an identity they associate with? Black, white, Jew, Protestant, Catholic, conservative, liberal, southerner, northener, etc etc etc.

[@edjabarbosa]

Alguma alma bondosa legende esse vídeo! ♥️

[@searose6192]

Brilliantly put. Class and power is the only dynamic that matters.

[@cwdrock]

It's always been about class. The elite class is terrified we will unify on that front instead of the phony left vs right dynamic. That is why populaist candidates are growing more popular.

[@stevenlight5006]

Chop wood carry water .that's what important.

[@mr.bruhmoment4732]

Do you also think that every intraction between humans is nothing more than a dynamic of class and power? Seems like a very simplified version of the truth

[@RickyMud]

It’s less than that

[@thrillingsuspensefantasy]

This video is unwatchably monetized. 5 ads in 11 mins? Garbage

[@i.ak.1684]

I don’t even believe identity politics to be moral high ground.

[@keithlarsen7557]

Precisely, white liberalism is not counter to white supremacy, but a continuation of it. You have to have a very low opinion of someone's ability to think they're incapable of committing evil.