Offering VS. Tithe - Dave Ramsey Rant

Tithe Vs. Offering - Dave Ramsey Rant
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[@madreof2]

Giving/tithing is part of the Christian faith. This is between you and your relationship with God. I don't believe it should be based on anyone's opinion. I do it according to the Word of God and my faith.

[@jefflewis9154]

Can someone show where the tithe was money. Everything I read says it was food?

[@MinimalisticLifestyle333]

Jeff Lewis I know ! They are confusing tithe with the temple tax which was only meant for the single Temple in Jerusalem which does not exist anymore (which eliminates the possibility of it being local churches)

[@sarahwilson7983]

At the time of writing, cold hard cash currency as we know it today was not necessarily the most common or popular means of payment. A grain farmer could exchange grain for, say, fabric or pottery. A cattle farmer could trade a calf for a donkey, etc. So food was absolutely an accepted commodity. At this point in our world, we exchange cash or coin for goods and services because that is how currency and its use has evolved.

[@iam.mariejen]

*if you consider gold, silver, bronze was monetary back then, then here it is* Exodus 25 New King James Version (NKJV) Offerings for the Sanctuary 25 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 2 “Speak to the children of Israel, that they bring Me an [a]offering. From everyone who gives it willingly with his heart you shall take My offering. 3 And this is the offering which you shall take from them: gold, silver, and bronze; 4 blue, purple, and scarlet thread, fine linen, and goats’ hair; 5 ram skins dyed red, [b]badger skins, and acacia wood; 6 oil for the light, and spices for the anointing oil and for the sweet incense; 7 onyx stones, and stones to be set in the ephod and in the breastplate.

[@mycatmorgansdailydose6516]

@@iam.mariejen this is still under the law of Moses, we're under grace now

[@iam.mariejen]

Joy Belza Moses doesn’t have a law, it all came from GOD. Same GOD. 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@TheHopeofIsraelWorldwide]

Thank you so much for the clear explanation on tithing Mr. Dave Ramsey.

[@chosenlight7289]

Whoa😭 I didn't know this man was packing the word of God like that 🤣!! Go on ahead man of God 🙏☺️

[@shannonchiquito8839]

Thank you. This made so much sense to me. I have been having this on my mind lately. ❤

[@v_perez9027]

answered my question! thanks Mr Ramsey

[@TheHopeofIsraelWorldwide]

I really liked the way Dave explained it makes sense to me.

[@fabulousfamily564]

Good question! Good answer too. you can only give when you're able.

[@diahill1945]

How many churches take care of orphans and windows ? From what I see churches just get richer and build great buildings

[@Bmc2021]

Not all the churches

[@elizabethmanangan4341]

Youre right i knew some pastors having millions houses and lots of assets having personal jet plane imagine better we gi e direct to d needy people specially d poor ones

[@scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557]

Dave my investment in fishing quota increased from 100k to 200k. I sold the quota then did a 1031 exchange to buy a different species of fish. I never saw the cash in this transaction. Do I owe a tithe on this? Or do I owe tithe when the money eventually becomes taxable?

[@snowboardslider24]

you have debt, you're broke and not in surplus. Thank you Dave! I have come this the conclusion, with God's help: tithe, bills/expenses, offerings. second liked quote, "it's very difficult to be gentle when you're weak, and giving is a type of gentleness, of compssion"

[@ADEehrh]

My problem with this is; the church knowingly collects 10% of a seniers monthly SS check; each Sunday. Ie. Some months this is 40% of a seniers incone. Now; bring this to the attention of your church head and watch them dance around groping for an acceptable response for you! Freakin lying thieves! I asked my church head to bring this up then got the cold shoulder til I left the church!!!

[@samuelmatthews9092]

What church do You Know operates that way? By stating "the church", you're incorporating the whole body of Christ into what a few assemblies may've done.

[@prestinawillis9825]

😳😳😳😳😳🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐!!!!

[@markb7067]

There's no such thing as a biblical tithe on earned wages. Tithes under Mosaic Law were compulsory as such can't be considered "giving", only involved produce and livestock, were limited within the Holy Land to farmers and livestock raisers and was really a tax that is now long since obsolete. If one does give money to a church, it's an offering but giving doesn't have to be just money. It can be ones time or an item etc... There's no biblical "base line" provided for any gift, the sky is the limit. We are to give as spiritually prompted by the heart. Also, there's no biblical curse for not giving money to a church nor is there any promise of a blessing for doing so. We are free to give, not bound to pay.

[@robertadams5437]

Net increase? Since wages are an exchange of money for labor, is it an increase? Would wages not be a static change of value from time and effort into money? Increase would seem to be profit, which is brought by proper application of capital. Would we tithe on the capital and the profit (increase)?

[@nildaramoscutrone337]

I have a question? so the tithe is to the church only or can u tithe to your church and the 700 club half and half?

[@1PITIFULDUDE]

Your Church

[@nildaramoscutrone337]

you can't go wrong when u tithe, God knows where your heart is always and the good intentions u have, give and it shall be given ten times fold...and that's what we have ....everything we have belongs to God..we have nothing with out him...our life, jobs,money, family, home,health...we need to give ,it is our Right!, regardless 10 percent or not we have to give and help the less fortunate...I know I'm gonna do the right thing in Gods eyes, not just because the bible saids so but because my heart saids so...and that's exactly what he is looking for, the churches need to spread the gosple and other organizations that they have that we need to support....dave ur in the right track with God, thank u for ur show...Many Blessings to believers and unbelievers!

[@sclark7577]

@Carl Stallins Right on 👍

[@frick6946]

@Carl Stallins Tithing was instituted before the Levites when Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek, see Hebrews 7:6. Also, the Lord leads me to tithe and give offerings, so we should obey. Obedience is still here under grace. Obey God. Grace does not mean we disobey what the Spirit of the Lord is telling us to do.

[@AdvancedMarketingGro]

SINCE WHEN did you (or a church or ministry) inherit the Tithe? Can you show me Book, Chapter and Verse where God has given the tithe to you, your church, or your ministry? >> If you answer "tithing was around before the Law," Jesus disagrees with you; Jesus clearly stated that tithing, as instructed by God, was a matter OF THE LAW... > 1. Jesus stated that tithing was a matter of the Law of Moses, The Torah - Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42:49. > 2. Jesus did not state that tithing was a matter of Abraham or Jacob, neither of the two are ever cited in God's Word as examples of tithing to be followed. >>> The Facts; Clear and Concise.... > 1. Jesus stated that tithing was a matter of the Law of Moses, The Torah - Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42:49. > 2. Jesus did not state that tithing was a matter of Abraham or Jacob, neither of the two are ever cited in God's Word as examples of tithing to be followed. > 3.The Law of Moses, The Torah, is described by the writer of The Book of Hebrews in Hebrews 7:18 clearly as... - Weak, - Unprofitable, - Annulled. > 4. Malachi 3:6-10 was written pursuant to the Law of Moses, The Torah, of which the Children of Israel were under and subject to at the time of it's writing - Malachi 4:4. > 5. The Law of Moses, the Torah, where God instructed tithing originates from, has been annulled, and even as much of the moral principles of the Law are now part of the New Testament, nowhere in the New Testament did God transfer any instructions to tithe to anyone, to neither Jew or Gentile. > 6. Tithing is not advised, suggested or commanded for any Christian living under the New Testament. God instructed tithing has nothing to do with New Testament Christianity. > 7. If you have been told that you, as a Christian, must or should be tithing, YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO. Don't believe the lie... 2 Timothy 4:3 - "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they draw to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto myths." Titus 1:10-11 - "For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: WHO's MOUTHS MUST BE STOPPED, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for FILTHY LUCRE'S SAKE." > 8. Christians are instructed to be free will cheerful givers as God leads, not tithers in any way shape or form. >>> A Tither's Checklist... Be sure to check the Tither's Checklist before paying your "tithe." Make sure it complies with The Law of Moses, the Word of God, where God established commanded tithing. >> The tithe is, and / or you are... 1. Comes from the Promise Land. Lev. 27:30, 32, Neh. 10:37. 2. Is fruits, vegetables and clean livestock. 2 Chron. 31:6, Neh. 10:37, 2 Chron. 31:5. 3. Is paid to a Levite. Numbers 18:21. 4. Is three tithes totally about 23 1/3%. Tithe one; Leviticus 27:30-33, Tithe two; Deuteronomy 14:22-27, Tithe three; Deuteronomy 14:28-29. 5. You live on the Promise Land while you pay it. Deuteronomy 12:10. 6. You are not a Gentile. Leviticus 27:30-34; Psalms 147:19-20. 7. You are a physical descendant of Abraham and Sarah, and of Issac, Jacob/Israel living under the law of Moses. Psalms 147:19-20. 8. If temporarily converted to money, is not paid in the form of money, and you buy what you want to buy with the money. Deuteronomy 14:22-27. 9. The money is converted to wine, strong drink, food, and what ever you desire to buy with the money that you share with a Levite and his family at the feast where God has placed His name on the Promise Land. Deuteronomy 14:22-27. 10. Your pastor can prove he is authorized to receive a tithe, and that he personally owns the tithe, and that it is his inheritance. Numbers 18:21. 11. You tithe because you are living under the Law of Moses, and not the New Testament. Numbers 18:21, Acts 15:24 12. Your pastor is claiming you must pay tithes because Abraham did, Jacob said he would, or your pastor said so, when God has NOT said so. Ezekiel 22:28, Lamentations 3:37. >>> Does this sound like the "tithe" your pastor is telling you that you must pay him every Sunday? NO? ...THEN DON'T PAY IT; you're being robbed by thieves who God has NOT given the right to take tithes from anyone.

[@frick6946]

The tithe was instituted before the law when Abraham tithed to Melchizedek, Hebrews 7:6. It did not just start with the Levites. Jesus is on the order of Melchizedek ( see Hebrews). Jesus is our High Priest now ( spotless, blameless forever and ever). He is the Head over the local meeting place, the church. He is the Head, the church is His body.

[@cindybelbin4722]

My pastor wants to have offerings added to our church budget. I feel that this is wrong. He asked me to show him in the Bible that this is not suppose to be done.

[@markb7067]

Ask your Pastor to show you where in the bible tithes were collected from earned wages.

[@lugiomo]

Dave the new testament church started over two thousand years ago, how come tithing started in church 585 AD.? maybe apostle Paul, Peter, John, James and all the church fathers do not understand tithing.

[@promaster1351]

theres not even ONE verse in the entire bible that's says God required the tithe to be on monetary wages anywhere. go read gal 3;10 and see if anyone follows that as stated.

[@halohalo2498]

Please go read lev 27 30 and get back with us thanks and God bless

[@jorisbezemer]

@@halohalo2498 then you have to keep all the laws and I guess you don't

[@randomkid7390]

Get out of debt, build wealth, then give. If you skip the first two steps, your giving will be greatly limited by your small net worth.

[@joycekanyangii7679]

I have a story I wouldn't even begin to tell, about church and giving...I wish it was jus the 10%, it isn't....once you are in...there are services during the week....a service collects offerings twice(they say give a GOOD offering), they say join a department which means money, theres special giving for conferences, when conference guest comes he or she says sow a prophetic seed, theres church outings.. theres passing by the church library...there's the widows or orphans or just people in need within the church who ask for donations...since the church won't use its tithes and offerings to help even the poor within it....all this happens then over the years we see the leaders lives improve...their children grow up going to best schools...they become something...and you are still at the same spot....I could tell this story because it happened to me, and my friends. I worked for 14 years and had literally nothing to show for it, not even an education..I had to leave church at 36...(everyone was screaming and yelling at me)...I gathered courage and went to school, I began spending my money on myself(feels good). I still help whenever someone is in need and I can...never beyond my means)...and I still attend church whenever I can...but now with firm boundaries

[@greenbrickbox3392]

Tithing in American churches is a waste, leadership overwhelmingly just enriches themselves or makes the church more influential than actually helping the flock

[@henryuribe4322]

Absolutely Amazing! Dave, you are amazing. The tithe works. It takes courage to teach this and it takes courage to trust God, but he has never let me down.

[@outdoorsnevada4138]

If you give your word to do something you do it. Otherwise what good is your word. If you signed a contract then you certainly need to do it. If you did not however you promised to help and just started that's pretty scrappy to bail so soon. If you can not continue to help say I will give support the next x amount of months as I have had other financial obligations come up. If you don't have it don't promise to give it.

[@jimmyt7194]

Tithe means tenth and is only mentioned one time in the Bible and that's in Malachi (spelled wrong) in the old testament. The new testament only mentions cheerful giving and never mentions tithing. Why do some people pick and choose which law to obey?

[@kca741979]

James Thompson EXACTLY! And the tithe was paid in crops, never money. So much of the Western Church is stuck in an old covenant mindset.

[@holtscustomcreations]

You guys must read different Christian Bibles than the 66 books that I read. The first mention of tithing that I see is in Genesis when Abraham goes to the king of Salem and tithes the 10th of all that he had. Deuteronomy has two chapters dedicated to tithing and describe three different types. So do your Bibles not have Genesis and Deuteronomy?

[@kca741979]

Timothy Holt first, Abe didn't tithe all he had. He tithed from the spoils of war! Next time I win a war, I'll be sure to remember that. Second, what covenant was in place during Genesis and Deuteronomy? The facts are that, post-cross, tithing is never mentioned. Even pre-cross Jesus only mentions it once, and that was with the Pharisees. Paul, Peter, James, John...none of them mention tithing. However they have much to say regarding giving...which is led by Holy Spirit, and sometimes is much, much more than 10%.

[@jimmyt7194]

@ Timothy Holt Thank you for the reply. I need to check into that. My point was more toward giving in the new testament and how most people compare it to the old testament way of giving.

[@holtscustomcreations]

James Thompson I don't believe in tithing a strict 10% of my wages. I look at tithing as a guideline, or baseline. It's my interpretation that Jesus of Nazareth took the levitical law and expanded on it to include motivation and not just strict adherence. It's a matter of self-discipline and the heart, not the law.

[@skidude9800]

How do you handle a situation in which you give a few thousand to family members in need each year? I want to be generous, and I don't have any debt, but I don't think I can adequately save for the future if I give 10% on top of a few thousand per year.

[@GigaTSCK]

Read the word God promises to increase your income if you bring the full tithes he even says test me on this and watch me open the floodgates of heaven to you.

[@frick6946]

I wouldn't give it unless the Lord leads you; we have lent before and sometimes family doesn't pay you back. Also, I wouldn't give it ( not lend) unless the Lord leads you to. Some people will take advantage of your kindness, plus you may be enabling them to not be wise with their finances.

[@maryhall1181]

Widow's mite? Widow's MIGHT.

[@ThompsonSmith505]

Hello Mary How are you doing today?

[@charliekiger]

I'm not sure what you mean by "worse than an unbeliever when you clean up your debts."

[@taffi607]

Austin Kiger that threw for a loop too. I think Dave is referring to 1 Timothy 5:8. I’m paraphrasing...”anyone who does not provide for their own household is worse than a non believer”.

[@traceycook7136]

You have made me feel so much better

[@ThompsonSmith505]

Hello Tracey How are you doing today?

[@win-dcitygirl6111]

What is the difference in tithing and alms?

[@mrprosperity4897]

Alms giving is giving to man. Homeless, needy what have you

[@hiitsmemindyourownbusiness2602]

Me personally I never sign up for child giving or sponsor. I would rather give to someone I can see at least have idea where the money is going.

[@whitneya7578]

Hi It's Me Mind Your Own Business I sponsored a few kids through World Vision for a long time. I felt like I needed to stop all sponsorships a few years ago. Recently, I read an article about how World Vision was funding terrorist groups. I was so angry because I gave them thousands of dollars over the years. But I am so glad I stopped giving them money when I did!

[@azra5648]

Would giving 10% to the homeless on the street be the same as tithing to a church if you don't agree with most of these Sunday churches false doctrine?

[@markb7067]

There's no such thing as a biblical tithe on earned wages. Tithes under Mosaic Law were compulsory as such can't be considered "giving", only involved produce and livestock, were limited within the Holy Land to farmers and livestock raisers, and was really a tax that is now long since obsolete. If one does give money to a church, it's an offering but giving doesn't have to be just money. It can be one's time or an item etc... There's no biblical "baseline" provided for any gift, the sky is the limit. We are to give as spiritually prompted by the heart. Also, there's no biblical curse for not giving money to a church nor is there any promise of a blessing for doing so. We are free to give, not bound to pay.

[@jomariromano]

@@markb7067 please say it louder, it's annoying how churches throw out tithing here and there without understanding what it meant under the Mosaic law. Back then they had to give produce otherwise the priests have no sustenance. If you gave money instead of crops it should be more than 10% since the priests need food not money.

[@rubycarr5623]

We don’t have a home church how do you go about tithing ?

[@elizabethmatchefts8509]

My husband and I have approached this in the past when we moved by giving to the old church until we found a new church to call home. Another option would be to pray about a charity to give a tithe until you find a home church.

[@Ariel-mo3om]

The new testament does not mention tithing like in the OT. It mentions cheerful giving, from the heart. This is how you freely give to the right causes.

[@elizabethmatchefts8509]

While I agree with you on NT, I would argue that tithing is not a rule, but a principle that is good for NT believers to follow.

[@Ariel-mo3om]

Some places pressure folks into tithing. When ministries are run on gifts and offerings, people can see that folks are doing things for the right reasons. Actually independent communities like the amish actually tithe correctly to free themselves from debt. If people did this, every Christian would have a farm & a restaurant and would owe no man, but to love him.

[@Contendforthefaith1]

Don’t bother. Under new covenant, tithes are done away with. This is a lie!

[@Anthm2011]

1500 years? What rubbish. The Early Church didn't tithe.

[@Ariel-mo3om]

A local community bank is the new version of the store house. Monopoly banks put communities into debt. The store house and the temple were different. Christ turned the tables because you're are not to trade currency in the place of teaching & praise.

[@dennisking4589]

Tithing began before the Law was given and is an important understanding of Christ's priesthood as a Melchizedek order.... but we also see sacrifice as an atonement before the law was given when God gave Adam and Eve skins to wear.... Or as an act of righteous worship in Abels sacrifice of his flock, All three which were then later bound into the Law, and then done away with. It is not that tithing is not older, but that it became part of a thing no Christian must adhere to; our tithe is in our free giving. To say tithing is required is to say the law is required. As to it being part of the Law it is seen in Lev 27:30 and Num 18:26 clearly.".

[@CharlesLukoba]

Kindly, Is Tithe out of Gross income or Net income? I’m a Christian.

[@LC-hv1qn]

The Evangel church hasn't even been around for 2000 years. 🤣

[@droptozro]

The Bible never says to give 10% of your income to a local church. And there was more than one tithe in the OT. Funny to me that this is the only OT law that many won't let go of---yet they ignore all the other laws of God? Still waiting for that verse about giving it to the local church in your time studying on this Dave. And yes, I've read your books... I've heard some of your claims but with little support..always hoping for more. Respect you greatly---nothing there to show this is what's to be done with your money. Pastors are able to be supported monetarily and widows/orphans and LEGIT poor people(basically disabled) can be given to... nothing about a salary and a staff supporting a building being built that's used twice a week. *disclaimer* I'm not against giving or even giving money to your local church. You go right ahead all you'd like--just don't fool yourself into thinking that's the commanded "tithe"(one of them) of God from the Bible.

[@holtscustomcreations]

Jesus spoke of giving to the local synagogue (Jewish church) and even had Peter go fishing to do so. Likewise, Paul commends several local disciples for their giving to the local churches in Asia minor. How would you propose the local church be funded in order to provide for the impoverished? Will you provide references for your Levitical law claims?

[@holtscustomcreations]

Disclaimer: Jesus of Nazareth criticizes the church leaders for misusing and abusing the money in their trust. He out right condemns them at times. Simply because a church "leader" does not follow though with righteous stewardship of the money does not exempt the one giving it from not giving. (If your local church leaders are not wise stewards and taking care of the needy, get new church leaders!)

[@MsAussieSheila]

Exactly! I'll give my 10% to the church when they start teaching the tithe properly. Which doesn't mean giving the local church 10% every year, year on year.

[@holtscustomcreations]

Rachel L It seems many are quick to give an excuse to not be generous. This being the case, I would charge you to Jesus putting out the Widow's Mite or Jesus telling Pharisees to give unto God what is God's. Tithing is a discipline, not a mandate.

[@droptozro]

The widow's mite is a mis-understood story with a chapter break that is in a bad spot in modern versions of the Bible. That widow was an example of someone whom the Pharisees convinced to put in all her living to support them. I.E. they were extorting from her essentially. Read the chapter just prior more closely. Even Dave knows this and speaks on it in his book "The Legacy Journey." And the Pharisees to "give God unto God" is not commanded of you to give to a local church. If you read the actual comments we've all had too--none of us are against giving, you're just falsely accusing of something we didn't say now.

[@AslansMane88]

"The storehouse...is the OT version of the NT church." That's the fulcrum of Dave's argument, and rises or falls precisely as that position is true or false.

[@jefflewis9154]

The store house was where they kept food. The "church " has always been the people. The commanded tithe is always food in the bible.

[@dedankimathi7136]

The storehouses were in levitical cities, physical locations. The church isn't a building... It's a body. The body of Christ. Tithing is not for Christians. As believers, were to give without being coerced or manipulated by scripture twisting, or stories. New testament giving is free will giving

[@sarahwilson7983]

@@jefflewis9154 read my comment above. Unless you are a food producing farmer, as were many/most at the time of writing Malachi, you are not dealing in food. So are you saying that if you are a car dealer, you need to be paying your tithe in cars? You are kind of getting hung up on your perceptions rather than looking at the teaching concepts.

[@sed2142]

Yup not money

[@leir2005]

So he's not going to mention that tithing was in the Old Testament and that we as Christian people are no longer required to tithe under the New Testament. Probably get a lot of money via tithe which is why he doesn't bother to point this out here

[@numi8985]

if you are not an evangelical Christian than this has nothing to do with you" - Ramsey looks like you didn't pay attention

[@win-dcitygirl6111]

It is food

[@vickilee6808]

Should you give 10% of a total inheritance

[@buffymcmuffin5361]

"Very hard to be gentle when you're weak."

[@jvolstad]

A tenth of your increase? Is the income from your job considered an increase? Give it to whom?

[@rosebud7105]

Yes, income from your job is considered an "Increase". It's where you get your money from. As for "whom" it's to your "local storehouse" If you watch Chris Brown (one of the Dave Ramsey personalities he talks quite a lot about stewarding your money.

[@jvolstad]

Rosie The Budgeter My local storehouse? I assume you are talking about a local church. I have not attended a local church in decades.

[@jehmusic3959]

@@jvolstad You should go to church :) God wants you wealthy, both spiritually and physically.

[@mcallisterc22]

He wants us to be wealthy? as in riches? where does the bible say that? jvostad: Tithing is NOT for the church today. When you study and find out the p who, what, when and how's and also the PURPOSE for tithing you will see that its impossible to do so today

[@jehmusic3959]

@@mcallisterc22 Yes, God most definitely does want you to be wealthy. I didn't say greedy, hasty, coveting, idolatrous, or not generous (like most of the rich fools in the Bible). I simply said wealthy. If you don't think God is wealthy, you don't know God. Are you planning on going to heaven? Do you want to go to the streets of gold or a garbage dump? I used to believe being poor was more righteous than being rich. God had to show me that is not true. That is actually idolatrous because only the blood of Jesus makes you righteous, not how much money you have, whether a lot or a little. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were all very wealthy, and that's who God says He's the God of! As for verses, check these out: Psalm 35:27, 3 John 2, 2 Corinthians 8:9. For tithing, see Matthew 23:23. Jesus told the Pharisees that they should have mercy but STILL tithe. The very first sin was stealing from what was the Lord's, which is what God says not tithing is (Malachi 3). Adam and Eve could eat from any tree, but not from the one God said no to. God set that tree apart as to not be touched. God says you can spend the money you have, but not what belongs to Him (the tithe). The tithe is not to be spent. It's funny how this sin is so tempting to people. If you can't live off of 90% of your income, you have more severe problems.

[@Snowdog856]

Just to add an offering is almost always an animal or food. Kill an animal sprinkle its blood at the alter and then burn the flesh as a burnt offering. Try this at your church. So you see we dont do tithes or offerings. Do some study. You can and should help people but we need to get off this tithes and offerings lie. It's not for today.

[@MrClarkisgod]

Walking the path > knowing the path. This lady is walking the path. She's doing more of God's work helping that child than what... paying the water bill for some gigantic church building.

[@davidgooley8940]

Now the question is, where in the Bible does it explicitly instruct income as in wages as a tithe? As a Christian who has studied this topic, the answer is there isn't a verse within the Torah aka Law of Moses nor in the New Testament that states the tithe is from wages. Here is what the Bible does illustrate about the tithe: First tenth of land produce Tenth animal of a group of ten from the herd or flock Anyone wanting to redeem aka keep the tithe must pay the valuation plus 20% Levite tithe Feast tithe Every third year tithe to widows, orphans, Levites and strangers The Levite received the tithe in lieu of not having a land inheritance and the tithe needs to be brought to the temple, and neither the Aaronic priesthood nor the temple exists today. Next, in case someone wants to cite Melchizedek receiving a tithe from Abraham, the word all doesn't specify wages, so it is eisegesis interpretation to suggest that. I am not against giving at all, and I actually financially support the church I am part of, but I am against people and more specifically pastors twisting scripture and using emotional manipulation, coercion and guilt-tripping against people to get money (hence the infamous misuse of Malachi 3 that was actually a rebuke against the priests). Now if someone wants to give an offering that is scriptural in nature, Acts 4 illustrates how people sold their property and laid the money at the disciples' feet and 2 Corinthians 9:6-7 addresses the level of giving whereas Matthew 6 addresses intent. Of course, you can use the tithe percentage as a level of giving if you choose, but it is irresponsible and frankly predatory of any pastor to demand someone to tithe under compulsion when that struggling individual should be the recipient of donations as per the every third year tithe instruction.

[@Ghanaba23]

I feel more comfortable hgiving 5% to a homeless person than 10%to a church. I give offering to the church as well, don't get me wrong. Remember Jesus said when you do these to "the poor", you have done it to me. I just don't see why I should give 10% +double offering to people in suits driving Mercedes and BMW whereas someone has no place to sleep 😎🙄 Afterall I can have my own service at home thanks to KZbin

[@pep590]

My feelings go a lot like yours do. I so enjoy seeing the face of someone in need receive help vs giving only to the church.

[@jeffreyblunt2233]

Unfortunately, giving to a church far too often results in buying a new jet for (insert name of "prosperity gospel" televangelist here) or another gold plated toilet seat for the Pope. Giving is fine, but make sure it's not going to help the less fortunate, not some pampered church official.

[@jefflewis9154]

Danny Green plus the scriptures never command 10 percent of one's money. Every tithe scripture in the bible is talking about food. Israel had currency. If God wanted 10 percent of income, he would have said it. A pastor is worthy of donations though. They should be based off them telling the truth.

[@jefflewis9154]

Danny Green I've never seen a pastor that teaches the tithe is money be able to answer the verse that says, if the way be to long, turn the tithe into money. If it's money, how do you turn money into money? Deuteronomy 14 22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. 23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always. 24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee: 25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:

[@Ghanaba23]

Very true. Why give $800 to a church who want to be on the TV channel? I will rather give $100 to someone homeless due to cancer diagnosis. I believe there is more blessing to that

[@happy5055]

The community bank or resource center is the modern day store house. The temple is free. This is how you keep false teachers out of business. You dont just give to a ministry because its local. Ministry is based on support, not salary.

[@derobertjames2083]

I disagree with Dave for the first time

[@buffymcmuffin5361]

What do you disagree about?

[@warrenlantz]

If the Spirit leads you to give. Give. If the Spirit does not lead you to give. Don't give. It's a relational issue.

[@Christsavedme77]

Warren Lantz the Spirit does not lead you to give. You have to decide to give if you would like to. 2 Corinthians 9:7 - Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. This verse mentions nothing about the Spirit leading you to give. Because if it did, then the Spirit did it, not the person. Ot states that one has to do it on their own voluntary will. It has to be done purposed.

[@andreamichelle1]

@@Christsavedme77 Yes He does. When you translate 2Cor9:7 in the original translation of the Bible, it means Spirit led. God has led me to give in past times. However, I believe that it is not a sin to give as we may be giving to an angel of the Lord or truly helping someone in need.

[@Christsavedme77]

Andrea Michelle I’m sorry but we do not need the original translation to understand the bible. The KJV was written for english speaking people and is understood for english speaking people. If God led you to give then it was not you that wanted to give but God. The verse in 2 Corinthians 9:7 clearly reads “Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.” It says that every man purposes himself. It does not say God led him. You do not need the original translation for that but that is pretty clear to me. God wants people to do it out of their own heart because that is a willing heart. Just like the gospel of Jesus Christ, God does not force people to get saved but for them to want to be saved so clearly giving is done willfully and not forced or led by someone else.

[@richardc-ex7rt]

The irony of saying “not with a legalistic mindset”, but advocates tithing (which is from Old Testament law). There’s zero biblical scripture directing tithing outside of supporting Levite priests.

[@carterallison7909]

Richard Jimenez wrong. The only reason you don’t advocate for giving is because you want to ease your guilt for being a stingy Christian. Read your Bible.

[@frick6946]

Abraham tithed before the Levite law; see Hebrews 7:6.

[@joaquinvargas6351]

First of all he's wrong about the 1500 years of tithing of the Evangelical Church didn't exist in 1,500 years ago, the tith in the 1800's, 1500 years ago was the beginning of the Catholic Church and they do not give or practice tithings, because the Jewish temple was destroyed by the Romans so there was no place to give the 10%

[@thesaintmustwalkalone708]

Man... The alms were for orphans and widows, but not to pay pastors. And our goal is to follow in the steps of Jesus, not to be wealthy. Giving away money is great, but our goal is to share the Gospel. Jesus was not trying to get wealthy to help the poor. He prayed for them, sat with them, put them before Himself.

[@charliekiger]

If your goal isn't to become wealthy, what are you doing watching Dave's videos? My goal is to be wealthy.

[@holtscustomcreations]

Austin Kiger Obtaining wealth Simply for the sake of obtaining wealth is Vanity. Obtaining wealth to benefit others is Noble. What is the motivation for obtaining the wealth?

[@jlar1984]

Can’t talk about anything biblical without scripture. Your thoughts on tithing are just that, your thoughts. It is unscriptural to say tithing is how we give in the NT church. It was for the nation of Israel but not for us today. With that being said we should love to give as NT believers.

[@frick6946]

Funny you say this, because God leads me by His Spirit to tithe to my local church ( Trinitarian and one that preaches/teaches the gospel). So by the leading of the Lord above, I tithe to my local church and give offerings besides.

[@hiitsmemindyourownbusiness2602]

I never see churches give to widows or orphans. So they give out food but not like they paid for the food they get it from the state. So in essence you're lining the pastor's pocket. Then there is 25 year building fund.

[@loriloristuff]

Firstly, churches are not given food by the state. Where did you get this idea? The food either comes from donations of food by the parishioners, or by purchase by the the church. Secondly, you don't see who gets what because of privacy issues. Would *you* like it if you needed a helping hand, and the church bragged on it in public? I thought not. Third, Scripture teaches us, when giving, to not let the right hand know what the left hand is doing. Again, it's not a bragging moment.

[@holtscustomcreations]

If you have never seen a local church care for the needy, then I have serious doubts on your involvement in a local church (or you are involved in one that does not practice what is taught in the Christian Bible.) When I have been in need, my local church family was there for me. Not just once or by one local church, and not just when I was a member. Actually one local church in Cedar Rapids, IA helped me in time of need and lead me to know the Christ through their generosity. After my wife left (we lived in PA at the time), the local church help me out immensely. As a single dad with three young boys, I needed all the help they provided. Recently this church operated a food bank supply solely by donations. (FYI all money the church receives in through donations, as well.) When I was unemployed and had no money, they gave us food. When I needed a ride, many members gave me a ride. When I needed someone to watch my boys while I was at work, they referred me to wonderful sitters.

[@luischav3z]

Well said. Timothy Holt

[@Tyler-sq4lt]

Hi It's Me Mind Your Own Business “Lining the pastor’s pocket” With a few exceptions, pastors are far from wealthy. If your church is misusing it’s money, you should find a new church. Pastors have possibly the most important job in society, and are also possibly the most under appreciated. It’s not a coincidence that pastors often suffer from depression. They are fighting a spiritual battle and require the support of their congregation.

[@scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557]

um, repair, maintenance, employees, plus the guy deserves something for the service he provides.

[@ambert5790]

I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we do have other offerings including things like humanitarian Aid and missionary fund and there's also fast offering and other offerings

[@TedFarabee]

Wrong. I would like one scripture where Jesus validated the tithe for Christians in the age of the church. You won’t find it. Apostle Paul said to be hilarious givers. That’s it. If we are to follow the tithe then we are to keep the sabbath on Saturday and many more doctrines under the law. We are no longer under the law. Also, the Hebrews followed three tithes- that’s 30 percent Dave. How many thinks Dave gives 30 percent of his earnings. Yeah, right. The tithe was for the Hebrews, period. We are called to give generously from the heart. And people wonder why so few tithe in a church. Well, people aren’t stupid. I give 24 percent of my income to the church and missionaries because I want to, not out of intimidation and fear.

[@cloudripper82]

Ted Farabee what does it mean to be "under the law?"

[@liveforchrist1474]

Remember to pray for the Martyrs , they're the persecuted Christians. Some have been imprisoned for being a Christian, some have been burned or beaten for the same reason. Voice Of The Martyrs is a Christian outreach ministry that raises money to give necessities and Christian teaching to the Martyrs, their families, and those at most risk for being persecuted. Give to this ministry and God will bless you so much for it. I hope you do give and enjoy the blessings of it! To God be the glory!!

[@VerlinBontrager]

This is one reason why I don't trust Dave Ramsey. "Don't give a small amount to a child in need, but give 10 percent to an American church so they can buy better sound equipment. "

[@LegendaryWoke]

Tithing was/is never monetary in the Bible. Offerings was/is to fund real minister's obvious works not Cadillacs, planes, and huge holy fortresses. Dave more Bible study, less money study since your soul is the greatest investment.

[@gittin_funky]

Is there a tax efficient way of plaything tithes ?

[@Jana_PalmTree]

Yes tithing was a command in the Old Testament, but in Hebrews 7, it speaks of how the priesthood of the Levites was done away with when Christ died once and for all. Verse 13 says no one attends the altar on earth. Verse 18 says the Levite priesthood law is annulled. Christ intercedes for us in heaven. Romans 12:1 we are to be a living sacrifice for God. He still welcomes our offerings.

[@arturoherrera160]

IF YOU HAVE A THOUSAND OF BIBLE STUDENTS WHO DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO THE THE LORD TO BECOME HIS DISCIPLES LEAVING EVERYTHING ( Matthew 19:29 ), YOU HAVE AROUND 500 PASTORS AND MINISTERS WHO DOES NOT HAVE A SALARY ONLY WHAT THEY NEED IN LIFE AS MINISTER TO PROVIDE BY THE CHURCH ( 1 Corinthians 9:14 ), AND YOU HAVE MANY SACRIFICE SERVANTS TO HELP THE PASTORS IN EVERY LOCAL CHURCH NOW HAVING A THOUSAND BRANCHES AS REQUIRED AND PART OF THEIR TRAINING TO MOLD FIRST BEFORE SENDING TO BIBLE SCHOOL. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THERE FOOD TO EAT TO FEED THEM ? " Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house ". Matthew 19:29 King James Version (KJV) 29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 1 Corinthians 9:14 King James Version (KJV) 14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. Malachi 3:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. NOW ALL OF YOU, TELL ME, DO I HAVE TO GIVE MY TITHES ( Compulsory ) and TO GIVE A GENEROUS GIVING ( not reluctant ) TO THE CHURCH ? BY PMCC 4th WATCH MEMBER

[@Snowdog856]

Numbers chapter 18 tithe is from God not for God.

[@hawgdawg556]

Where is the old testament practice of tithing (Deuteronomy 28) or (Leviticus 27) reaffirmed by Christ. I see nothing of the sort in my new testament reading ? I only see where Jesus and the Apostle Paul speak about offerings...............not tithes. Where does God's word tell us that offerings are paid out of a surplus? According to what I've read in the scripture, because we are under the New Testament covenant we are not obligated to pay tithes. So, while the new testament scripture does speak about offerings, we are not obligated to pay tithes because we are not under the Mosaic Law to pay the 10 % tithe as the Israelites paid into the temple for the Levitical priests. Nor are we compelled to pay additional sums which could amount to a total 23.3 percent under the old law. And there is no place in scripture that I have seen which requires us to pay our tithes to a local church. We do our best to give to others whom we know are experiencing difficulties, and even that isn't a qualifier. We simply give to whomever we believe we are led to give to meet whichever need must be met.

[@dedankimathi7136]

Jesus didnt tithe, didnt collect tithe, Paul didnt tithe, didnt collect tithe, Peter didnt tithe, didnt collect tithe or teach tithein. So where do you get your theology from? Your wrong my friend.

[@carterallison7909]

dedan kimathi and you clearly don’t read your Bible.

[@frick6946]

Jesus tithed and told others to tithe . see Matthew 23:23 . Pay Caesar what is Caesar's and pay God what is God's

[@dedankimathi7136]

Carter, I'm sure you don't read the Bible otherwise if you did, you'd agree with me. Since you seem to disagree with me, show/quote me book,chapter and verse of the Bible showing where Jesus,Paul or Peter tithed. @Fran MATTHEW 23:23 says weightier matters of the LAW are Mercy, Justice and Faith. Tithing isn't more important than Mercy, Justice ok Faith.. According to Jesus Christ.. And He should know... Don't u think so? Either way, since Jesus made it clear that tithing is a MATTER OF THE LAW (of Moses), then it different apply to Christians, because according to Apostle Paul in Romans 3, we are NOT UNDER THE LAW. Therefore, tithing doesn't apply to us.

[@frick6946]

@@dedankimathi7136 Jesus did say they weren't weightier matters ( but justice, mercy and faith is)), but He still says in that verse, not to leave the tithe undone. Not leaving a tithe undone, means you are to tithe. So , it is important. But you can't treat people badly, you have to have justice, mercy and faith and tithe. Tithing is not more important than justice, mercy and faith, but it is STILL IMPORTANT, because Jesus said to do it when He said not to leave it undone.

[@frick6946]

@@dedankimathi7136 Also, God leads me to tithe to my local Trinitarian church and give offerings. So are you trying to say God's leading is wrong in my life? I'm sorry but I'm going with the leading of the Holy Spirit on this one. I"m obeying God on this one, because God has His best interest in mind for me.

[@Foxybe12]

Thanks for being a Christian financial advisor!

[@joshuat770]

Makes sense. Thank you Mr. Ramsey

[@VampireKa1n]

Did you just tell your viewers, many of whom are broke and fighting through massive debt, to give away 10% of their income? I thought you were smart.

[@costco_pizza]

Mike D Never quite understood why a financial expert is telling people to do this.

[@jefflewis9154]

And the bible doesn't even support that claim. When one takes a closer look, one will find that the commanded tithe was always food, and never money. Giving to a pastor should be based off if they are telling the truth period.

[@gdg1963]

How are they in debt? Credit card debt? Some hospital debt, having not bought medical insurance beforehand? Housing debt, by taking out loans for a house they can't afford? An automobile debt by taking out a loan for a car they can't otherwise afford? Give GOD of your finances to help do a little on your part to help further advance GOD's Kingdom work on Earth, because it does require money. Just like it takes money for people to eat, drink, wear clothes, live under a roof, et al.

[@gittin_funky]

Mike D he said Evangelicals should yes the majority he said should ignore what he is saying

[@CJacquot]

"worse then non-believers" really?

[@k.alipardhan6957]

did you hear the rest of the sentence?

[@Focusandseek]

If you want the blessings and promises of the tithe you should tithe.

[@mann234]

Christians should give above the law ABOVE THE LAW NOT below the law, therefore if the law was 10% then Christians should give above 10% whether split in 100 places or one place. Tithing would mean to put the 10% in one place, so to GIVE in the new testament you split it into many places obeying giving ABOVE the law. REMEMBER "The tithe is the Lords" not any Churches or Cult. The tithe is the Lords for you to give above the Law unto the Lord by Faith. Even carnal men can tithe unto the Lord to Charities because all the wealth of the earth belongs to the Most High. The difference between the Old and New Covenant is that in the NEW covenant the Lord removes all differences between Tithes, Offerings, and Firstfruits and Alms etc. All are OFFERINGS nevertheless the Lords weighs the heart to know if he/she gives a worthy offering or not. We say we live in the dispensation of Grace and seedtime and harvest yet we give less than the Old Covenant? ABSOLUTE NONSENSE! Do we give less because we are poorer than those in the Old Covenant or some say they were for Jews ... however, Malachi says "Will A man rob God?" A man any human being with flesh and blood: will a man rob God? Some say Tithe have only planted fruit crops and farm produce: Do we still live under seed time and harvest and why do we still give Offerings and Charity today? Some say the Tithe was a tax by the Children of Israel to God as ruler: Really is our tax today more spiritual? Why do we use offerings in Church then? Notice I have mentioned only converting the 10%TITHE into giving in the NEW Testament dispensation as a minimum giving and not controlling where and how it is given as I am not an advocate of giving the 10% constantly to the same church week or month after month. But Christians total giving should be above 10% per income thereby living above the Law in grace.

[@thesaintmustwalkalone708]

No, they gave alms in Matthew while Jesus walked the Earth because He had not fulfilled the law yet. The Bible teaches if you go back to the law in any part, you must do all of it. We are to give, according to the NT, as God has prospered us each week. We give being led by the Spirit. Giving a 10% to feel like you did your duty is not what God has called. In fact, in acts, they sold all their possessions and distributed it among the poor. People want to be bound to a tithe and not under the Spirit for fear of what God may call them to give.

[@holtscustomcreations]

So what does giving as "God has prospered us each week" look like? Shall I "give to God what is God's" and not pay my debts? Is God honored by this? Or shall I you the 10% as a baseline (floor, no ceiling) (not mandate, voluntary)? Or would you have another benchmark to go by? Have you prospered by being alive this week? Then, do you give you time back to God? Or are we only discussing money?

[@jefflewis9154]

Timothy Holt In acts, that's not a tithe at all. It was it was what they agreed to do, and they lied about the price, and held back money

[@holtscustomcreations]

Jeff Lewis Are you referring to the incident of the two who lied and withheld money from the church when they agreed to give it and were struck dead? If so, I'm not sure what that has to do with tithing. They made a commitment and publicly stated what they were going to do and then did the opposite any matter most deceitful. Subsequently, they might an untimely end. So what other Benchmark would you propose? The tithe existed before the levitical law. It was in common practice with the Chaldeans in the land of UR. Abraham gave a tithe to the king of Salem recorded in Genesis. The levitical law expanded on this tithe and mandated three separate tithes. AKA 30% total. Jesus of Nazareth expanded the tithe even more by telling his disciples and the Pharisees to "give unto God what is God's." In other words, give everything back to God. Jesus of Nazareth took the levitical law and expanded on it to be incorporated into every aspect of life so much so that it became our very existence and nature. So where is the heart of the matter? Are you looking at what you can keep or what you can give? For none of it is truly ours. Everything we have is simply on loan to us to be wise stewarts with. So I ask again, where is your benchmark? Where is your floor?

[@jefflewis9154]

Timothy Holt I'm looking at exactly what the scriptures say. The scriptures say the commanded tithe was food, and nothing more. Lying pastors have turned the tithe into 10 percent of one's income. My floor is the truth

[@jefflewis9154]

Timothy Holt The tithe Abraham gave wasn't commanded, so it doesn't fit the context of the conversation.

[@itsthe11thhouranditisurgen32]

Hi. I was just wondering if the tithe is on the gross or the net?

[@GauravGRocks]

Although I'm not religious, Dave is exactly the type of religious person I love. He understands the boundaries of religion and the real world and takes the Bible's advice from a practical standpoint.

[@karentaylor6051]

This has helped a lot.

[@ThompsonSmith505]

Hello Karen How are you doing today?

[@thesaintmustwalkalone708]

Also, World Vision supports unbiblical practices. If you want to give, give to Gospel for Asia or a Biblical organization.

[@kandylandfarms9898]

watch this on youTube "Power of the Tithe Gary Keesee"

[@Contendforthefaith1]

I can’t keep quiet about hearing this nonstop garbage about tithing. This is a complete lie and is furthest from the truth. Read Hebrews ch 7 and it’s crystal clear that it is disannulled. This was not reaffirmed by Christ in New Testament either. This was part of the law of Moses and was only to the levites. Levi is out because now the high priest is Jesus Christ. I love you Dave but you are deceived in this, sir.

[@frick6946]

Abraham tithed before the Levite law. see Hebrews 7:6. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek; Jesus is after the order of Melchizedek, see Hebrews. Jesus is our High Priest forever and ever. His church, is His body, He is the Head. The least we should give is 10% of our gross income to the local church, which is His local body of believers. Your local church is His body. Local Trinitarian bible preaching and teaching church.

[@jmorris1674]

God bless everybody helping people as myself for the kingdom anything is appreciate $JMorris305

[@reynux1]

Malachi 3:8-10 King James Version (KJV) 8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 2 Corinthians 9:6-7 King James Version (KJV) 6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

[@teddysthaiadventure2534]

Why would you advise people with high debt to give money to organisations who hold billions in assets? If churches were run like charities, fine but they seem to always keep lots for their own good

[@az21bob666]

church do not have billion on assets. some church have billion in assets. some are small that use that money to help people. and since you pick your church you can see how they help.

[@teddysthaiadventure2534]

Yes not all churches, some only have millions... Curious how you can see given church financials don't need to be made public unlike real charities. Fools and their money mmm.

[@holtscustomcreations]

Michael Ryan If the church is designated as a nonprofit organization, 503c, then they have to have their financials open to the public. It's one of the requirements for being a community-based nonprofit organization. Overwhelming majority of churches fall into this taxation category.

[@teddysthaiadventure2534]

Hi Tim, hope you are well My understanding is as per the IRS requirements Generally, tax-exempt organizations must file an annual information return ( Form 990 or Form 990-EZ). ... In addition, churches and certain church-affiliated organizations are excepted from filing.Aug 16, 2017 If this is wrong, please show a reference point so I can correct my ideas. Cheers

[@holtscustomcreations]

Michael Ryan I was unaware of the change in August of 2017. I know our church records are open to the public. So have all the churches I've ever been involved with for the past 20-plus years.

[@arturoherrera160]

Let us clear and read if Jesus himself gave money as Tithe or Tax Temple ? Matthew @-27 New International Version The Temple Tax 24 After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the temple tax?” 25 “Yes, he does,” he replied. When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak. “What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes-from their own children or from others?” 26 “From others,” Peter answered. “Then the children are exempt,” Jesus said to him. 27 “But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours.” SO TITHE IS NOT JUST FOR ANIMALS, FRUITS, ETC. BUT ALSO MONEY ...

[@markb7067]

Nope. The temple tax and tithes are two different things. There is no biblical account of money being received as a tithe item, new testament, or old. Blessings in your giving.

[@samuelmatthews9092]

In this part of the chapter the focal point is the Posture in which Jesus is speaking. Because Jesus Christ is Fully God and Fully Man, we can understand that in his questioning peter, He was speaking as God Almighty. When reading these parts of the scripture “What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes-from their own children or from others?”26 “From others,” Peter answered.“Then the children are exempt,” we see that He is Speaking from His Lordship as God, and His Children don't have to pay the earthly temple tax at all. However, Jesus provided for for the payment of the temple tax, because peter said He would pay and not paying after that would've caused offense, thence hindering His Mission in Capernaum.

[@michaeltatro1131]

All you christians crying about the tithe SHAME ON YOU! how dare you not support your own cause. I mean dont you want christianity to grow? Do you not want the heathens to notice how christians get blessed by GOD? (Gold Oil Diamonds)...isnt it ironic...dont ya think? A little too ironic and she said "yeah I really do think"