Ep105 Late Holocene Bronze Age Collapses Correlated? Little Ice Age Extreme -Randall Carlson Podcast

[@novembertango1298]

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[@Roguescienceguy]

Well, I would wanna see him stay calm against those creationist geologists. They can turn the biggest evidence against their Noah's flood into evidence for it.

[@joeshmo8267]

​@@Roguescienceguy those people are so crazy

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WE Have Been Here Rising and Falling For Millions Of Years.! That's Why They Find Artifacts Deep In Mines Under Millions Of Years Of Strata .. 🔨 OPARTS AKA Out Of Place Artifacts.! Word

[@MrBTBusch]

Agreed

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Wonderful, a whole two new hours. I listen to Randall & Co because it's enjoyable. And then you learn a lot.

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Exactly what I need on a sleepless night. Very interesting stuff. Thanks very much.

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[@LegendaryJew]

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[@HearturMind]

In 1989 PBS aired " After the Warming " a documentary on the consequences of warming to the planet, including raising the concept that history may be missing the influence of climate changes on rise and fall of civilizations. When they got to remedies, carbon taxes, quotas or fees were raised as likely for nations (not corporations or individuals). Fast forward to trickle down to businesses individuals . This is directly linked to efforts to track or monitor or restrict human movement and activities. And yes, i remember that in the 70s there was a lot in the scientific research and popular science press and general media that cooling would be the disaster on the horizon. Can you imagine if drastic cooling ensues we would be then forced to consume and produce CO2? Madness.

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[@themetaphysicalaxe5506]

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[@mitchk.9049]

There’s a great book called “Still the Iron Age” by Vaclav Smil. US iron and steel production peaked in the late 60s and early 70s. Open Hearth furnaces were used to produce that. Just think of all the emissions and carbon generated. Before Open Hearth furnaces in the early 1900s they made steel through the bessemer process which had even more emission. Steel mills around the Great Lakes region like Gary, Indiana had continuous clouds of grey. Similar to what we see in the big factory cities in China. Ironically China dismantled one of Germanys last open hearth furnaces brick by brick and rebuilt it brick by brick in China and it’s still being used. Talk to all the old timers about the winters of the 70s. We haven’t seen anything close to that since.

[@CmprDohn]

When listening to or reading about theories of the cause of the Bronze Age collapse, I often come across references to the invasion of "The Sea Peoples". WRT the discussion at hand ( particularly in and around time-mark 12:25 ( or there about ), I find it particularly interesting ( given the speculation among historians ) that the "Sea Peoples" may have themselves been displaced due to severe climatic disturbances in their own native lands

[@ericjohnson1147]

That and the ability to make iron but absolutely climate change ( severe) ! Look what happened to Doggerland .

[@shorelines5303]

Perhaps the Phoenicians aka Venetians. Shd come with a health warning.

[@ericwid]

Awesome 👍 thanks everyone Peace

[@dazsmlemk1119]

G'day Mr Randall Carlson I'm a outback living Australian and I'd love it if you could do some research and shed some light on events and things that shaped Australia

[@conradswadling8495]

ozgeographics

[@footballdrills3434]

'Not by Fire by Ice' was ice age fear book back in the 70's.

[@robertporch8895]

I love listening to you talk and explain things Randall. We think a lot alike so it makes it easy for me to just sit and listen to all your dissertations and explanations and theories and such. I wish I could have taken your classes. I imagine that would be fun and a great learning experience.

[@zemog1025]

Love me some Kosmographia!

[@prometheus_beard]

Mmmmm info, my favourite haha

[@prometheus_beard]

Did you guys see the news that Saturn's moon, Titan, has hydrocarbons? Assumed to be made by compressing methane, not dead bio-matter, but what if...

[@prometheus_beard]

44:44 that's there globally. The channels and flattened out land above. Floodmap site if you enter depth to -400m and then come back here and say "woahhhh", then look at G earth and see it everywhere. Water level was so much lower then. All those plateua's need exploring.

[@prometheus_beard]

If you look between Newfoundland and Cape Breton Island, there is a scoured out ancient river channel running from the NW to SE, out to sea. It has about a 150m depth difference to the now submerged land around it.

[@wiccanmoon0001]

Looking forward to it 👍🏻

[@warrickg1250]

Love how the UN had to post there (facts) at the top before Randall and the team go deep with actual fact and evidence haha

[@blutamis7697]

Thanks so much for allowing us to listen in on and learn from your conversations. Hopefully I'll join u in the scablands before u stop doing the events with Ben.

[@pdriot9424]

I love you guys!!

[@mikemcgrath5188]

the mammoths ate all the clovis people, every...last...one...!

[@blutamis7697]

Lol

[@bessiehadley3497]

I did some checking online because the mini ice age onset made me wonder when Krakatoa went off. I found that medieval monks, per a University of Cambridge article, by faithfully recording lunar eclipses (I took some screenshots of the article - they recorded 51 of about 60 eclipses) accidentally recorded for us volcanic eruptions leading perhaps to the onset of the Little Ice Age. They recorded especially dark moons during lunar eclipses, & those especially dark moons coincide with volcanic eruptions having occurred all over the world. Wikipedia states the 1257 (1250?) Samalas eruption could have triggered the Little Ice Age, & that vulcanism was very active during those centuries. I am finding this series so interesting! I wish I was strong enough to travel on those expeditions of yours - I would love to actually stand on those overlook points & see it for myself.

[@debcamp2359]

Great discussion.

[@graeme7twice]

On the shorelines of the southwest of England, there are lots of examples of where the sea level has waxed and wained during the Holocene

[@FindingEnoch]

Every episode makes me wish I could go back in time to get my degree in Archaeology or Paleontology. Thank you guys for the educational material, and the inspiration to go out and view the earth in a completely different light. 🍻

[@josephcorcoran8714]

He was BASSALTED with the 666 joke😂

[@mercuryshadow09]

Sitting here bored looking for something good to watch and along comes a new Kosmographia vid.

[@1950Archangel]

If you get bored -- or as I did when Randall and the guys were off touring and I was tearing my hair out with desperation for MORE RANDALL!! -- I went back and started over with Episode 1. Watching those early episodes again but now with a GRADUATE DEGREE in Randall's work, OH! All the stuff we missed! All that stuff we didn't know how to match up or didn't even see go by. Absolutely fantastic! I just went back to watch to 'hold me' until the next new one -- but it's so MUCH MORE than we knew back then!! Try it.

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[@jamesbohling4864]

One of my favorite subjects

[@TheyCallMeGlitchDash]

Randall can you speak more about the new technology they are developing in the Maldives?

[@madincraft4418]

Fascinating as always

[@clintnorton4322]

Hey, guys. When you're talking about how people got to Catalina Island, did you forget that the Pacific coast is subject to tectonic subsidence? Those depths you're looking at may not be consistent with "elevation" from 10 to 20 thousand years ago. The mountains may have been pulled down in some large or series of large plate shifts.

[@lawtongore7053]

Probably like what they're going to do in the future????

[@Dormiens_Custodibus]

Randal really needs a rug… To tie the room together 😎

[@DrekJS27]

He pissed on my rug man...

[@butziporsche8646]

I have run into moose swimming from the Alaska mainland to Kodiak Island. We were sailing from Seward to Naknek and there it was, half way across. Lived on Catalina (Avalon) for almost a year through the 8th grade. It’s 26 miles from the mainland as per the song. It was pretty boring for a 14 year old but we’d usually spend a couple of weekends a month in Redondo Beach. There was a museum in the lower level of the casino. I don’t like living on islands. Lived on Vashon for 6 months and could wait to move back off there.

[@shaunb1156]

Great show very informative

[@forcemultiflier1746]

Elephants have been known to have travelled (swimming ) 48 Kms, @ around 2.7 Kms an hour !

[@AndyOpreshyn]

strap several together ...you have a self powered raft and enough muscle to power all your needs in your new home!...

[@forcemultiflier1746]

good luck strapping Elephants together !!@@AndyOpreshyn

[@donsixpack6779]

For the best correlation of the water levels of the past take a look at the Palos Verdes Peninsula. The terraced topography will help you understand what happened as far as water levels. Also the Channel Islands include a patchwork of regulatory authorities. All for their preservation. I'd also like to point out that people swim to Catalina Island more than you realize. I got to know the lifeguard at Abalone Cove and he paddles long boards over to the Island, pretty often. I've not seen Jimbo in years. I've heard The Channel Islands, in the past were exposed enough for the tiny mammoths to live there for some time. And I've not seen anything saying humans and mammoths cohabitated the Channel Islands.

[@tsukiini]

Elephants are strong and natural swimmers (unlike humans, who need to learn to swim) and recent studies have even suggested that elephants may have an aquatic ancestry and that the trunk may have developed for snorkelling.

[@Alarix246]

29:09 what is important here is to follow the direction of those footprints, she run towards a camp/village, so somewhere on the shore innthat direction there should be a place with fireplace and oodles of flintstone implements.

[@annewitkowski7586]

Gotta love Brad: "Goodyear...Topper"

[@QuadRipper]

Seems reasonable to me that mammoths would have been used for all kinds of things. Also seems reasonable to me that if you were able to navigate the seas, it wouldn't be too hard to bring a couple newborn calves (M and F) with you. 200 to 300 pounds each, very doable. I'd venture to say they had tech capable of much more, but that gets pretty fringy, but based on what we know for sure, its not much of a stretch at all.

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[@iammaxhammer]

*So this is what Santa Clause does the rest of the year!* Love your work, Randall.

[@rebjorn79]

Another shiny episode!

[@gernotzemanek853]

Where can I acquire a graph of the greenland ice core proxies, printable and shareable. Thanks

[@sacha11666]

So, when the shit was hitting the fan "SAINT ANNE DRYAS" is what i'm adressing. Was the rich dudes back then just when for the WEEK end in a bed and bunker on the island with their "2 mammoth power". (I have russian /ukrenian blood from the end of the mini ice age. That's why i'm hard to follow). . Man, when I right in english and I red myself for the errors. I sound like DR. Terror. (dude hidding behing his pinkiwik 😂 AI will begg me to stop when i'm gonna be old.) . Great Show guys! t's well greased since last time i watched. ( sorry for the typos, it's -20ºC here , my fingers are like pogos..)

[@MrBTBusch]

Great Comment.

[@Crazy_Terryy]

Don’t shut the gate on Randall! Let him go on and on til he deems that he is done!!

[@MagneticReversalNews]

These young woke punks control Randall = Sad

[@cjhaas4127]

I have to stop listening...for tonight! If I continue... I'll be awake all night...😊 Great info!!!👍👣🌎

[@ryansmiltneek5786]

Thank you for making my friday morning awesome! 1:58:55

[@McInally.]

Should live stream and answer live questions.⏳

[@matthewkashnig3061]

". . . Disasters , catastrophes, upheavals,,,,"😂😂. Math meets 'shot happens'. . . and get over it -was his tone I feel

[@johndagne6623]

"26 miles across the sea. Santa Catalina is waiting for me"....

[@kjs503]

Some hunter gathers believe in sky burials which leave nothing behind.

[@carlulrich845]

Search the following: A Fluted (Clovis) Projectile Point from Crystal Cove State Park, Orange County, Alta California. Fluted projectile points are rarely found along the California coast. Only three have been previously documented, one from norhtern California and two from southern California. A fourth found in Orange County is reported here. This isolated artifact made of local material suggests a Clovis presence along the California littoral at the end of the Plesitocene. We re-examine the evidence of Clovis in California in light of the early occupation of Santarosae Island and explore the possible relationship between Clovis and the Late Pleistocene occupation of the Santa Barbara Channel Islands.

[@DabblersDen]

I love geology!

[@mikew3965]

I'm so busy catching up with older videos, I had no idea a new video was available 😅

[@Dan-DJCc]

Ensuring a secure source of food, after realizing the habitat on Catalina Island could support such a population, someone loaded baby mammoths onto a sailing pirogue and started a new herd that was safe from predation and available for feeding families when needed. Getting and keeping food sources used to be the first concern.

[@dananorth895]

The oceans were 400-500 feet lower not considering subduction which was probably considerable on our west coast. They could have walked to Catalina Island or Vancouver Island for that matter. There's also a buried canyon/gorge off the mouth off the Columbia River mouth on the continental shelf. When some came by boat down west coast most is submerged and buried now.

[@Voodoo_Robot]

Elephants are documented to swim 30 miles in 6 hours. Their bodies float, so they can rest. In fact they enjoy swimming. So a mammoth swimming to Catalina is a possibility.

[@mjesarey]

So when are you all getting together with Joe to go check out The Boneyard in Alaska?

[@alanserl4046]

The buffalo on Catalina island were brought there by a film company to film old cowboy movies. After the film company was done with them, they turned the buffalo loose and they thrived.

[@JimMcHugsU]

Growing up in So. Cal. standing between door jams is the safest place to be if you are inside a house during an earthquake. Apparently, this has been common knowledge for over 3,000 yrs.

[@bjabbbjabb1286]

Plus a greener planet provides more shade to keep it perfectly cool . Just sip your pina colada under 2 palms insted of 1.

[@dananorth895]

I was born in 61' and remember 69' moon landing and 70's ice age articles. I'm still waiting.........be patient. It'll get here!

[@dananorth895]

And 70's speculation Mt. Hood might erupt! It did a year or two before Lewis and Clark expedition came through. Of course St. Helems went off gloriously. Native indigenous cultures spoke off battles etc. between the N. and S. Mountains.

[@jdedmnds1]

If the Pacific plate is diving under the American plate, the sea may have not been as deep as now plus a 400 ft. sea level lower.

[@themetaphysicalaxe5506]

Yeah! If I plant 1000 trees a year, i should be able to drive as much as I'd like !

[@mercuryshadow09]

I suspect a solar cause for the late bronze age collapse, it lines up with a stronger than normal sun cycle at that time. Higher solar output will cause increased volcanism and earthquakes.

[@AndyOpreshyn]

my thoughts as well ...would explain everything....

[@mercuryshadow09]

@@AndyOpreshyn yes, also plasma discharge from a solar flash could be mistaken for an asteroid impact.

[@gruboniell4189]

The eastern wall in the collapsed building with the skeleton may have been buried preventing more mordern earthquake damage

[@petercurtis6716]

Russ cracks me up, referring the Catalina island giants dug up in 1951 as “interesting burials”

[@fenixgirl9]

wouldnt there be a changes in teh ice sheets as the crust shifted changing what part was in the polar zone..so as an area of crust moved away from the pole there would be retreat of ice sheet (how much depending on general global temperature as well as how much was over land and how much over water) and then a build up of ice in the area shifted to the polar area, growing over time? so looking then at North America and where and how much was covered in ice would be dependent on where the land was in relation to pole location and shifting over time as the polar region shifted. thus areas that were habitable would change over time.

[@Roguescienceguy]

Over a period of a million years the crustshifts are negligible. Polar procession, however, isn't. Heck, the north pole has moved 80 kilometers in a few decades.

[@isaackellogg3493]

If we take the 1290 BC date for the Exodus and that the forty years of Wandering in the desert was accurate, then Joshua’s victory at Jericho would date at 1250 BC.

[@direbearcoat7551]

Oh! Yeah! The walls came down during the period of the earthquake swarms. That's what you mean, right?

[@BruceAndrews-h8d]

Kramer's find of sulfur balls ( from the air )all over is one new thing. Also Tall el-Hammam is loaded with human remains like seashells. The place has had the super burn.

[@monkerud2108]

Have you seen the movie "dude where is my gravel?" reminds me of something

[@dananorth895]

A West Coast subduction zone unzip or a large Central Mississippi quake would be catastrophic to the U.S. and probably bankrupt every insurance company.

[@karldeweese8501]

During the winter the Santa Ana winds blow from the mainland towards the channel islands perhaps some swimming mammoths were blown to the islands.

[@Tracysbrokenwing]

Hi guys!!🤗❤️

[@jeffwright6501]

Look at the underwater flood channels....almost like an entire ocean,was pouring over the edge for a period of time long enough to create them ,then it was over but changed.

[@JimMontgomery-i8h]

Older rocks on bottom. Correlate vertically as well as horizontally. Usually igneous rocks can be used to substantiate ages through radiometric methods. Basic stuff

[@merlinalexroni]

So... Here's something that very few people even try to approach. How about the domestication of Mammoth as a cause for the subsequent traits post YDIE. You guys alluded to it but kind of laughed it off. But I think it's something that should be looked into.

[@spitfirered]

In History There Was 1,000 Years Where No New Technology Nor Any Building Going On, What Was This All About?

[@blutamis7697]

If u are talking about the dark ages it was a cold spell and the black plague.

[@AndyOpreshyn]

dark ages...it was climate related as well...i am certain...

[@jdedmnds1]

Why would there be shale in the mountains of New Mexico?

[@mercuryshadow09]

It's an ancient sea bed. Same in Colorado.

[@jdedmnds1]

I suspected as much. Thanks@@mercuryshadow09

[@poynt9372]

Love the dichotomy that the 70s were thought to be a possible a time of mini ice age onset yet in UK we had a record heatwave in the mid 70s. Isn't nature just so fickle and unpredictable.

[@wadenulton9243]

Wtf is with the context bar? They’re afraid of what you’re saying!!!

[@jh1859]

According to yt this subject matter is subject to Misinformation and needs to be massaged for a more supple message.

[@enabledev]

Given that the East Med bronze age collapse dates to about 3200 years ago, the date line ties in with the Chinese bronze age collapse at Sanxingdui (Chengdu), albeit perhaps a bit later. I've no idea about droughts there, but I wonder if both suffered a shortage of tin from Afghanistan - perhaps pre-historic Taliban, or a geological event that cut off supply routes/destroyed mines

[@graeme7twice]

Lots of terraces around those islands.

[@rogerdudra178]

My sister's son has 6 kids, now. He's a surgeon back east.

[@visjesvanger]

whats the difference between pre inca and clovis?

[@MrBTBusch]

Decent question.

[@dominicalbrecht7039]

What would an air burst impact look like over a shallow sea and not on land..?? Just thinking out loud.

[@svena.halstensen5699]

objects found when ice sheets recede need not be in situ where they were dropped and need not have been dropped before the ice advanced. more likely than not they were dropped on the ice at some point. an ice sheet is not just a barrier. people have been traveling on the ice as its much easier than across rocky and uneven ground.

[@zachrawlings6523]

The 'pedia says about a cliff that breaks and falls to near vertical lithography: "cliff retreat" or "cliff failure," where erosion or other forces cause a section of the cliff to detach, leading to a vertical rock face. This can occur due to weathering, erosion, or geological activity.

[@hughaskew6550]

As Tony Heller so clearly and often points out, there have been global warming and global cooling predictions and scares for the past two centuries at the least.

[@Eyes_Open]

Tony Heller clearly points out what he wants you to believe.

[@someoneunseen5168]

​@@Eyes_Open 🙄

[@pikslide360]

Does it track how many trees I plant man?

[@bendy6626]

No. Because you don't matter to them. Sorry.

[@Tango4N]

I went tree planting one spring 30 years ago....several thousands planted.

[@marenpurves4493]

or how many tree seedlings I give away?

[@timothymchugh6232]

Maybe the Catalina underwater canyon was eroded after the mammoths went to the island.

[@jerrymccoy1947]

Vekikovski said that in Mesopotamian archeological terms, a "hiatus" was a 6 foot deep layer of dirt and boulders that separated successive Bronze Age cultures.

[@mattterry1255]

They could have taken BABY mammoths w/them to Catalina. If you use them as labor, that's what you would do.

[@MrRabiddogg]

a mammoth is heavier than humans by a ton. if you had a sandbox at an angle with to scale humans and mammoths in it and then dumped a bucket of water on the high part and things get swept out to sea, those that have less buoyancy would be dropped of in increments along the path as the water pressure lessens. Man being lighter would be at the bottom of the sea somewhere possibly. Mammoths would not get pushed as far.

[@wendykleeb2071]

Just listened to the book "The Empires of Atlantis". It offers a coherent long history.

[@tillman40]

Upstate NY has plenty of shake