Therapist Debunks "Alpha Male" Dating Advice | How to Spot a Misogynist

[@trashedx]

These TikToks scream "insecurity". It's not even about impressing women. It's about impressing the same type of alpha men. *dies of cringe*

[@rhokesh4391]

This post in combination with your thumbnail just made me cackle XD

[@edvh88]

You’re so right. It’s all performative. Reminiscent of gorillas in the jungle banging on their chests. And those female gorillas are over it too.

[@Ace-ud3qp]

or selling courses.

[@FreedomGirLStar]

You are cringe bro, your"alpha male" podcasts are everywhere and a lot of women know the tricks now, and we roll our eyes... Like, grow up! ​@@rhokesh4391

[@Lisa-sg1of]

Correction- ''alpha male''* (you forgot the '' '').

[@mrs.w8193]

A lot of men think sexual coercion is part of sexy banter and flirting. But it’s dangerous, abusive, harassment and makes most uncomfortable

[@MatildeVallespinCasas]

Wait when a burly gay man does the same 😅😅😅😅😅

[@xyz-jv9df]

Thisssssss

[@xyz-jv9df]

Yes, many men and sadly even women think dat sexual coercion is not rape !!! But it is!!! If u have to Gaslight someone to sleep with u, it's rape.

[@juliaarambula3153]

Yes!!! They are so dumb and more women are on to that nonsense. All I can do is laugh at those 🤡 🤡.

[@TheAn613]

There have been absolutely ZERO instances of men winning me over by decidedly violating my boundaries. Shocking, I know.

[@bottomofastairwell]

crazy right? that if you lead with disrespecting me it's not gonna go well...

[@supercrazylegs1]

A lot of women will laugh and giggle with a man in these situations just because they feel unsafe and don't want to set him off. Maybe she'll even give him her number just to get him to leave, and then she'll block his number as soon as she gets home. And if he listens to these guys, he'll see that situation as a success.

[@AliceBunny05]

​@@supercrazylegs1sister does this all the time.

[@Storm_cryo]

Funny how every time a guy violated my personal space/boundaries I would just avoid them even more

[@crazywithak790]

​@@supercrazylegs1My system is to text my friend our emergency emoji. She calls me in hysterics which gives me an excuse to leave. She's also very good at it considering she's an actress, she really sells it when she starts crying and yelling in Spanish.

[@earthaforester3141]

You know what actually helps guys "understand the female mind"?.... Having authentic conversations with women.

[@fbkkhfjlnbh]

Fr

[@GellaHumbug59]

@earthaforester3141 If only there were a way to test that theory… 😅

[@gordonbecker1456]

You have to be attractive enough for women to want to interact with you in the first place for you to be able to do this

[@TheLurkerFox]

"What do women like? WE ASKED A MAN" fucking type of behavior, on god-

[@MrsTruthTeller]

The amount of male friends I've had conversations with who tried to "figure" women out and my response is always, "Well did you talk to her?" And they all seem to look confused like having a conversation with her wasn't an option, hahaha.

[@DataRae-AIEngineer]

Also, if anyone ever asks for my number and tries to be like "it's ok just put it in my phone" will usually get the US Army recruiting office number that I have memorized. You call them once and you'll get callbacks from them at all times of day for years. So, protip to the other women in this post.

[@giasas]

iconic behavior 😂

[@FrumiousMing8]

I don't understand that guy's "advice" for getting phone numbers either like I think it's well established that people will give out fake numbers to anyone who won't take no for an answer 😂

[@patriot-hj5vx]

Or, just say "no thank you i dont give it out" ?

[@giasas]

@@patriot-hj5vx ok troll 🩶

[@acujenpete]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@CarolineIronwill]

My first date? Go for ice cream or hot chocolate. It's public, it's fun, it's safe. I limit the date to 60-90 minutes to see if there is chemistry. I ARRIVE EARLY AND ORDER FOR MYSELF. No one will ever say I owe them anything over a $5 ice cream. If the date goes well, I may end with a consensual hug (I'm a hugger). The next day, I will text them and either say "thank you for meeting me, I enjoyed spending time with you, and I'd like to see you again" or "thank you for meeting me. I don't think there's chemistry. Best of luck!". Best case scenario, I met a wonderful and compatible person. Absolute worst case scenario - I had a $5 treat, and learned more about what I like and what's not for me.

[@Mushroom321-]

Yes!!, wise !! 😮😮👏🏼👏🏼 YOU GO woman!! 😊

[@jclyntoledo]

Yeah that's exactly why I don't get ppl who trash talk the coffee/tea date; like it's not expensive and most women would be fine getting their own beverage especially if they're showing up early. Also for me that's more of a pre-date to feel vibes/chemistry. If you don't feel anything then it's fine bc it's something easier to get out of vs a dinner date. Also if it goes well then the next meet is the official date that will be more of an activity and meal thing.

[@justkiddin84]

@@jclyntoledo Yep. They are either: women who are actually wanting all their meals paid for, sadly; or men like this who want you drunk or want a drink they can drop something into-and want complete control over you. Any guy who really wants to go out with you will be fine with any scenario.

[@notapeacockfan3356]

In my area there's a Cafe that serves exclusively waffles (some savory, some sweet). And also has alcohol, and all kinds of nice nonalcoholic drinks and most importantly has a whole library of board games for you to play while you're there! I take new friends and first dates there.

[@brit331]

This is all SO smart. Will be sharing with my friends that are dating :)

[@emilyk3825]

Most of these guys that mysticize talking to women are too scared to actually speak to one in reality. Be wary of someone who sounds like he’s tracking some wild animal through the woods when he’s talking about just another human. 🙄

[@bellycurious]

If only they knew women are humans too... and if they treated women like were humans too, everything would be more simple.

[@suzbone]

​@@bellycuriousSeriously. We're just people.

[@bottomofastairwell]

it's LITERALLY that simple to talk to women too. just, i dunno, treat us like we're human beings??? but these dudes simultaneously put us on a pedestal like women are these crazy mysterious beings, while also completely de-humanizing us and stripping us of our humanity. like, nothing good comes of that. just treat women like they're people. cuz, you know, they ARE people. what i just can't wrap my head around is how men CAN'T accept or understand that

[@melchiorlise2466]

That's true, you'd think they are talking about the elusive blue-footed booby of the Galapagos and not a fellow human being with needs and expectations. There's also this weird belief that we can be "nudged" in the right (wrong) direction without our consent, even if we're not attracted to them..

[@emilyk3825]

@@melchiorlise2466 Well that’s where the theory of these “magic lines” you can say to make a woman swoon over you. “What women want to hear” “Decode this and that” and all this crap. The Language of The Females is a very complex dialect. 😅

[@CarolineIronwill]

Whenever an "dating expert" refers to women as "females" all I think about is the Ferengi on Star Trek.

[@presentfuture7563]

FEEEEmales 👽

[@llynxfyremusic]

Yoooo same end my suffering The funny absurd ferengi misogyny hits different these days lol

[@CarolineIronwill]

@@presentfuture7563 right?

[@veronica5lmaa]

Hahaha I'm currently rewatching The Next Generation and that's so accurate 😂

[@karinwahlrab3377]

we’re “trouble” and that’s the one constant in the universe according to Quark 🤣🤣

[@ErutaniaRose]

As a survivor, the idea that dudes like this exist teaching other men to be sexual predators is absolutely terrifying.

[@destroyraiden]

unfortunately this has been in effect since before the 90s it just blew up then.

[@ErutaniaRose]

Yikes...@@destroyraiden

[@Ari-ze8wm]

Same . As a survivor I find this problematic .

[@weedblossom77]

what is truly horrifying is that youtube platforms this dehumanising violent trash...I suppose most of youtube big-heads are single red-pill sexually frustrated males

[@Sarah-re7cg]

Counterpoint: these videos are circulated all over the internet for women to share and warn each other about! And educate one another! Can also be used as a teaching tool for little boys on who to avoid associating with and how to choose their friends wisely. We’re commenting right now on a video that’s countering the effects of these fucking freaks.

[@eccod]

I’ve practiced Shibari for a long time, and this is exactly the type of guy we warn new bottoms about in classes. Anyone who doesn’t take your first no at face value is NOT safe to do bondage (or anything else) with.

[@AliceBunny05]

Yes, I know many people are hesitant to join in on community based events around these things because it can be such a private subject, but people who are new really benefit from being around others who can clearly state to them exactly what they need to stay away from and when it's genuinely unsafe to engage with someone.

[@TheDerpyDeed]

I've never practiced, I'm an ex-scout with a whip and a loving heart, and i've been doing alright - but I've stumbled into a bottom who screwed the whole city and manipulated EVERYONE to get her way, glad to have dodged that bullet... is there advice for switches/tops to avoid toxic partners too? just more thorough vibe checks and looking for red flags?

[@emmatfink]

Exactly. In all versions of BDSM, if the Dom doesn't know the sub is the one who's actually in control of the situation, that's a red flag.

[@FrumiousMing8]

It reminds me of this screenshot I've seen of a Tiktok thirst trap where the guy was like "Pick out a safe word, you're going to need it." And everyone was clowning on it like "I'm going to do sex so bad you're going to want to tap out immediately." That guy was giving that energy, talks a big game about kink but it's painfully obvious he doesn't actually know anything about it. And if it's obvious to an asexual, you're just embarrassing yourself.

[@lingodelfo5415]

To be fair, it's okay to ask why not, that might give you valuable information (however, you're not entitled to an answer). It's also more than okay to look for people who are into same things as you are, and if not, yes, that person is probably not the best for you. But I'm getting a vibe that's not what he means...

[@spiceupyourafterlife]

"You have to be okay with kink and my mastery of ropes." I'm willing to bet that this guy doesn't even know how to tie a single column knot.

[@XXwhoknowsXX81]

People like him and that behavior is not acceptable in the kink community.

[@AbeNoSeirei]

He probably has his "own version" of doing the single column tie, which is "obviously better".

[@loreleialexander8607]

😂😂😂​@@AbeNoSeirei

[@Biiku_]

His "mastery of ropes" gives me velcro shoes vibes.

[@TheSightOfTheStars]

​@@moiz85I wanna see the panic in his eyes when he gets called out for not owning a single set of safety shears.

[@PeterHowe228]

I may not have credentials but I'm going to say this right now, the guy who says "It's my reality and she is just a guest" has a raging case of main character syndrome.

[@kconway2263]

And women are NPC’s? 🙄

[@dopex89]

Coming soon to the DSM 6 😂

[@steggopotamus]

I love that term.

[@lingodelfo5415]

In my culture we bend over backwards for our guests and treat them better than ourselves. For some reason I get the feeling that's not what he means...

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

Yeah. I would MAYBE say this to someone who pits everyone above themselves, doesn't move on from previous relationships, ect... Basically someone lacking self-respect and self-love on a self-harm level when it comes to dating. "They're literally just testing the waters, don't throw your WHOLE self/life into this! You are just a guest in their reality/life rn and they are a guest in yours!" Just as a reinforcement that this isn't a guaranteed life-long thing. But out of a specific context like that, _it's pyscho shit._

[@daisiesforghosts]

He didn’t include it in his course because “not accepting her rejection” is him saying to coerce the woman which of it includes sex, it’s actually a form of rape and he doesn’t want to be sued.

[@powderandpaint14]

Totally.

[@mercedeswalt6621]

That’s a really good point.

[@NobodyImporttant]

People who don’t take no for an answer really are scary.

[@powderandpaint14]

For good reason, they're not safe.

[@isaa8521]

That’s why women need to carry.. I do in my purse all the time.

[@lizlovsdagmara5525]

Gavin de Becker writes about this inability to accept no as an answer in his book "The Gift of Fear" and why that is so dangerous. The book is a must read.

[@broidkanymore-zc4lt]

yep, they're gonna 🍇 women sooner or later

[@bbo7002]

Fr tho!! I've never understood why so many ppl will describe someone that way like it's a GOOD thing 👀

[@annikki73]

Something that has always bugged me about guys pushing a woman for her phone number. Why don't they ever just offer the woman their own number first???

[@erinhaury5773]

I feel like if it's going to happen, then it should be the interested party handing over their own phone number. It lets them know that you're interested, but the ball is in their court and they don't have to call you if they're not interested.

[@stampandscrap7494]

Because that would put the woman in control.

[@psyolytesaille]

So they can later say she asked for the number etc.

[@Ace-ud3qp]

rejection hotline.

[@maureenlaneski2802]

He needs to have control AND needs to win something.

[@cortneyosborn1141]

“The female mind”-as if there is just one 🤡

[@abbywolf9701]

There’s just one, and it’s his emotionally absent mother 😂

[@cortneyosborn1141]

@@abbywolf9701💯👏🏻😂

[@Jessicad9304]

I know right?? It’s so clear they view us as mindless drones or something. If anyone is going to be an expert on the female mind, it would be a woman. But even then, she’s only an expert on herself. Lol

[@beautyininsanity421]

You have to have a membership card to use it. There's a queue, and it can get pretty long! ♀️🧠

[@jalapenofarts]

@abbywolf9701 I know you're just joking and all, but it gives me "who hurt you" vibes. There's a lot of baseless assumptions about how women raise these dudes, and they do, but I think it should be emphasised how most of all men raise these dudes. And men in straight marriages don't have the excuse of not having a lot of power in the relationships they model for their sons.

[@rashycraps]

i'm a middle and high school teacher, and men like this seem to prey on nuerodivergent young men, I feel like. Some of my cis male students who had one difficult experience in a relationship turn to tiktok accounts like these and think that they're being heard and understood and that women, in fact, are both the enemy and the goal. For nueorodivergent kiddos, it's harder for them to read a lie - because so often, they are very honorable people themselves and wouldn't dream of lying. It's messed up on all levels.

[@xxBreakxxAwayxx3]

Ive noticed that autistics and neurodivergent folks can be super vulnerable to these societal lies. Being autistic means taking people at face value most of the time. There is no single guaranteed wake up call where cishet white men realize that the entire world is lying about this... I almost feel lucky being poc autistic because the early run-ins with inequality taught me to look deeper. But i know a lot of folks in less marginalized positions who cannot concieve of a society that is inherently traumatizing or dehumanizing so many people and getting away with it. For autistics like me, it is REALLY easy to only see the black and white, or to assume there is only one correct way to live because we have to learn to distinguish shades of gray as young adults, which is not encouraged at all! Autistic men in support groups often struggle with knowing what is appropriate or ok, and their only source of info might be porn. autistic women might not know how much attention is appropriate and be accused of being obsessive or stalkers because they see loves as a special interest. When someone is partially "immune" to nonverbal social cues, we get bias filtered in weird and complex ways that make it even harder to get good advice and skills. phew!

[@gigahorse1475]

I’m an autistic woman and I’ve noticed this as well. It breaks my heart that so many autistic men are being set up for failure at best, and encouraged to be criminals at worst.

[@austincde]

^^^yeah I'd like to co-sign on that black & white thinking , how things *should* be simple and direct when they are not. A "no" is a no, but the anatomy of rejection via social cues, ghosting, ignoring, requires more explanation than these guys can provide

[@d3pr0fundis]

This is a very good point. I’m thinking of the king incel Elon Musk.

[@unicorn73212]

​​@@austincdeyeah people think these influencers aren't dangerous but they are they strike fear into people and say things to get a reaction from there audience these are the same group of men that said there was more men struggling with homelessness then women even though one day I came across this website for battered women and on the front page it showed that they did a count and there was actually more homeless women in my state than homeless men. Women usually don't make it obvious that there homeless either so if men are being targeted more for it more then it's because they purposely put themselves in these situations. A lot of them refuse to get help so much to a point we're some of them would have to have rehab forced on them just for them to get help.. that could be one of the reasons I've seen them steal so much out of my store because there trying to get themselves busted. Instead of offering these men rehab they put them up in a hotel rooms knowing men that are uncivilized like that need rehab and a job first before you just put them up in a fancy hotel like that or they might destroy the property or start killing people if they don't have access to their drugs. That's why it annoys me when these pick mes try to help them because some of them actually can't be helped and they don't even want the help there perfectly fine with being low life's.

[@monicabender3943]

I've seen that creep at the beginning a few times... My husband came home and showed me what the boys at work are watching. All I can say is, as a woman I'm so glad I found my person decades ago because I don't think that I could handle this nonsense.

[@powderandpaint14]

And then you get men saying "women are so demanding these days, women are so high maintenance" when actually it's just that men are not respecting women's boundaries or the concept of consent anymore!

I've seen people react to that guy before... and I could definitely see me and my friends _laughing_ at that... but watching it unironically or thinking you're going to learn something about meeting women from it? That's just wild to me.

[@melissarandolph8444]

This isn't dating advice. This is "How to be a predator"

[@brookep4464]

i haaaaaaate the alpha male/beta male garbage. anyone who uses those terms unironically to label other humans is a walking red flag. my dad referred to someone as a beta once and i told him anyone who labeled people as alphas or betas was automatically a beta - he's literally never mentioned it again! LOL

[@Jessicad9304]

Good work lol. Shame this disgusting ideology any time men bring it up 😂

[@johnwalker1058]

The "Alpha Paradox" - The most "alpha" thing a guy can do is to totally reject the entire "alpha bro" manosphere system and everything contained within it, and instead simply live out his life as he sees fit in whatever way makes him happy (provided the things he's doing are not causing harm).

[@xxBreakxxAwayxx3]

I loooove calling these dudebros betas. They have no idea how obvious it is to everyoneeee. wanting to be "alpha" is the most desperate BS they could possibly do. This is also how i ruined the text-foreplay with a unicorn hunting couple....

[@TheDerpyDeed]

I used to say I'm a "ligma male" (ligma balls, f outta here with that fake "alpha" bs) ...and then I transitioned, I can't say I'm a ligma male anymore, but I'm a lot happier now~

[@vibethecat4194]

its like those people who are WAY too into astrology like "oh, I can't help it, I'm such a Gemini!" its basically that, just slightly more sexism

[@nekovalley]

“She needs to spend at least 200 dollars on the first date” bro wants a sugar mommy BAD, which is fine but like. Say what you mean

[@coda3223]

Are we sure that this tiktok wasn't an attempt at (misogynist) satire? It really seemed like satire to me...

[@ExElliexE]

I know that channel and it was in fact satire. It is a comedy channel

[@coffeelover5780]

Yes, it is it's called content machine. I follow them it is absolutely satire.

[@PetMama1313]

Yes. Just be upfront about what you want and it's fine if both /all parties agree.

[@meaghanorlinski8464]

That is from Content Machine. It’s a KZbin channel. They are 120% satire. They have whole series of this where they are CLEARLY lampooning red pill podcasters. It’s pretty funny actually, because they ridicule them and play up the super embarrassing or cringe thing these podcasters do. It’s like taking An Onion or SNL skit as reality. It’s not!

[@justkiddin84]

You do not have to accept her rejection. Wink, wink, nudge nudge. Hey dude, meet my bear spray and this is a cop. Have a nice night in the jail.

[@kconway2263]

I thought women carried pepper spray and tasers to ward off attacks, but perhaps it’s to ward off creeps like him who won’t f-k off when women tell them to.

[@gamingforever9121]

@@Sputterbugthat’s what 45.caliber was made for, those times when a guy just won’t take the hint.😂

[@gamingforever9121]

Nothing says back up like a 45 😂. Remember ladies firearms are there for a purpose.

[@ladylarry75]

i'm convinced they don't believe the imprinting nonsense (side note, humans are animals, but not many animals actually imprint), the reason they want to be somebodies first is because then there is no comparison. This is ideal for a lousy (and/or abusive) person, nothing to compare means you can pretend this is just what everyone does, this is how romantic relationships work. Also.... the amount of guys i have experienced that used "kink" to just be abusive is terrifying. to the point where i just had to pretend im completely vanilla until i know a person is safe. and now? i just do not date. it just proved to be too risky and i just cannot put myself out there again.

[@nari5161]

been there, traumatized from it

[@bottomofastairwell]

they just want naive women with no real experience who don't know any better, so those poor women will endure endless amounts of these dude's shit. that's literally it. they just want to find someone who will tolerate the abuse because she's too young/naive/has unhealed trauma/whatever to know her own worth

[@ladylarry75]

@@grazielaalmeida8438 I apologize for the term "vanilla", perhaps the word "typical" would have been more fitting? you don't deserve any shame for not wanting to be hurt!

[@AliceBunny05]

​@@grazielaalmeida8438well, any term can be used in a degrading way, that dosen't mean vanilla is an inherently degrading or shaming term. the whole point is supposed to be that everyone likes vanilla, so I'm sorry people have used it to take pot-shots at you. anyone using it as an insulting term isn't worth their salt in any way.

[@steggopotamus]

This is part of why teaching age appropriate consent is so important. I didn't even know feeling safe was a physical feeling until I was 39. So, like, as a society of we teach younger people what healthy relationships should feel like, our society can not only identify these toxic types faster, but also more thoroughly insulate against future generations falling for this ish.

[@MissKashira]

Twenty years ago you could say, "Sorry, I have a boyfriend," and they'd leave you alone. They might not respect a woman's wishes, but they respected the property rights of another man. Nowadays, *nothing you say can get them to stop.* It's scary. Even giving them the wrong number won't work as they will dial it right then and there to make sure it's yours.

[@hannahc8213]

Right? If you say you have a boyfriend they think "ah, a competitor"

[@SableRain]

I was a single young woman 20 years ago. Saying, "I have a boyfriend," didn't work back then either.

[@powderandpaint14]

We have to get to a point where "no thankyou" is enough. I would never want to engage in any way with any of these pushy, scary men!

[@jcfreak2007]

Sadly it wasn't for my mother with my Narcissistic father who "chased" her for 2 years by coming into her workplace every single week and asking her out every single time until she finally said yes... 🙄

[@carolallison9685]

Haha i have been married for a very long time. We have 3 kids, the oldest of which is 15. I still get men doing this crap. Ive had guys try to do this with my husband right there. A few were actually friends of his friends. My husband is a literal federal agent and they still don't care. So its nothing to do with "status" because being a federal agent is about as "alpha male" as you can get. They think they have a shot because they were in the military for 5 minutes 20 years ago (but now work at the home depot). Im pretty close to bringing out my mexican roots and just leaving fools out in the desert. Also, if the government is listening, i meant leave them in the desert alive and well with their full knowledge and consent, like a retreat. Yeah, im taking them to a desert retreat with blackjack and hookers. But legal hookers, so the bunny ranch. Yep, im taking them to the bunny ranch.

[@kjhaygood]

Then they blame the girl saying “pick better guys”. How insane is that when the guys are not genuine in the first place.

[@MatildeVallespinCasas]

It has been suggested that they want to pour into women responsibilities which are theirs. They assume that it's so transactional that it's a way of "rewarding" them

[@elleofhearts8471]

as if the most conventional wisdom to getting a woman to sleep with you as a man hasn't always been lies and deception. Its victim blaming to women and enabling/evading accountability to men to blame women for falling for tricks and lies they were meant to fall for. Why is the onus always women to pick better but never on men to BE better?

[@loveself6396]

Then when women do find an amazing good man they’ll call him a simp . They’re literally a joke.

[@meoueo]

I feel like nobody dislikes women as much as straight men do

[@pearlpearl3806]

There are plenty of straight men that respect women. But weirdos get a platform by exploiting certain men's insecurities

[@idkwuzgoinon]

Facts

[@bottomofastairwell]

on the whole, yeah. its terrifying. obviously not all men. there are great ones, i'm dating one. but like in general, straight men? yikes

[@coolchameleon21]

@@pearlpearl3806 where are they? cause i have yet to encounter them

[@TheBlankInk]

Are they even straight at this point? You gotta be a man who genuinely likes women in all ways other that just sexual. This is what an actual straight man looks like to me

[@n.r.tupperauthor6573]

Did he say the first guy 'imprints' on her? Does he think we're dogs?

[@AyyJayAgain]

Maybe bro read twilight

[@KillerFallenAngel]

We are all newly hatched ducks apparently. Imprinting on the first person 😂

[@endTHEhegemony_Today]

Lol my bad experiences imprinted deeper than ANY great experience I've had with a man. It's why I'm so shamelessly mad dog toward male entitlement and manipulation these days. 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 They built this B*TCH by treating me wrong when all I sought was genuine connection. 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Mad dog 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣bark bark West 4b is the way forward for me!! (I love the circles I keep finding myself in since I've chosen to de-center men) 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Much Love!!

[@n.r.tupperauthor6573]

@@KillerFallenAngel LOL It makes no seeeense. Like, by his logic, women would never have more than one partner. Or does he think no woman has ever broken up with men, it's only men leaving women? Like, I have SO MANY QUESTIONS.

[@xxBreakxxAwayxx3]

seriously!!! problematic in SO MANY ways! Not only do they legit believe women are a separate category of functioning human, they have to rely on "imprinting" to cement their own importance in womens lives. It is beyond icky that they actually believe women to be more similar to animals, that they can only understand one man at a time, forever. What makes the loss of virginity any different for the man? does he also lose the ability to be attracted to other body types? nope, because men are supposed to hump anything that moves... This belief is really gross for men too!! it infantilizes women (pedo) and it assumes men can never be more than base instinct (since their "natural" self is such a turnoff and they have to work so hard to do what they are "naturally" designed to do). 🤮 on so many levels i cannot even

[@karasmusic123]

I saw a gay guy complaining that other men treat gay men like sexual objects as well.

[@justkiddin84]

These kind of ‘men’ do, yes.

[@angelaa7388]

I do think there is something hormonal at play here. I'm not saying "boys will be boys" but I know testosterone makes you want sex in a way that perpetuates a drive for novelty and frequency.

[@idkwuzgoinon]

@@angelaa7388that has nothing to do with treating people like sexual objects. Try again

[@yes2542]

​​​@@angelaa7388 Eh that is a weird and transphobic take. Definitely not true in my experience, with myself or my gay guy friends. Dont like the testosterone = toxic stuff

[@coolchameleon21]

hmm seems like there’s a common denominator

[@shannonz3018]

That first guy looks like he tells stories that end with "and then everybody clapped."

[@Emily-fh8en]

"I'm the best... come to my house and I'll show you" fucking ew!

[@xxBreakxxAwayxx3]

forreal! guy probably doesnt even do his own laundry. Forgive me if im not able to withhold my arousal while you sweep beer cans off the couch for us to netflix and chill Family Guy. EW

[@naryainc]

She's a guest in your reality? wtf does that even mean... the male ego is something else.

[@VioletFoxisms]

They think they’re Leo DiCaprio in Inception.

[@angiep2229]

Sounds like solipsism. The idea that reality if of your making, and you're the only real part of the universe. Leads to some seriously messed up perspectives.

[@naryainc]

@@nonamepainter It's just something I've noticed men tend to have in common. They think they're the normal average person and that their opinions and perspectives are the reasonable common sense takes. It makes it difficult for them to empathize with others and to understand different viewpoints. E.g if they don't see sexism, then sexism doesn't exist, or it's not that big of a deal. If they don't care, nobody cares. If they don't know something, then it isn't true.

[@PetMama1313]

Yep. Definitely not partnership language with that guy.

[@austincde]

Welcome to the Dojo 😂

[@feliciasjoberg9886]

2:24 The FeMaLe MiNd is soooo mysterious! But fret not, the EXPERT is in.

[@bmay282]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@Jessicad9304]

Hahaha right?? It is soooo unbelievably cringey to watch lol

[@xxBreakxxAwayxx3]

It turns out ANYONE can be an expert! you just have to ignore everything they say (its a game) and manipulate them into doing what YOU say!!! solved!

[@jinijinxer97]

This is my specific ick with transwomen who clearly are misogynistic. Worse still, these alpha males think actual trans ppl who think femme are acc gay while if they comment on it, its facts. Like do they not see the irony?! I'm just so sick of the world thinking we are the most priviledged class while fetishing our mind & body.

[@hkandm4s23]

I can't imagine being so insecure that you can't even have a conversation with someone without playing a character. Nor can i imagine being delusional enough to believe i am an expert on an anyone other than myself, much less an entire gender i don't live as.

[@sadbunny23]

It also just seems so exhausting

[@rigelc.hoffman2496]

It's a hassle, especially if people who know the character meet people who know the real dude. But it's a lot worse to expose the real you and get destroyed, so it's all worth it

[@elleofhearts8471]

I don't think superficial people have a hard time making and maintaining artificial or engineered connections with others. I think its what they live and breath for, actually. I think they live for deceiving others and having the internal satisfaction of "having the upper hand" on others. While others are sacrificing their pride and vulnerability, fake men Ike this are sacrificing nothing because there's nothing authentic about who they're presenting as. Not only do those fake men know this, i also believe they do this so that when everything comes to a head and they've ruined multiple people's lives to include their own , they'll have someone lined up to blame for their own life going to shit. They know faking it until they make it can only get them so far. But the drama and manipulation is more valuable than authenticity and uncertainty to them.

[@WellMindsStudy]

The scary part is that the effect that these influencers are having is pretty substantial. The casual sexism I've been witnessing has been growing by the week.

[@simonakatsman974]

I can tell you- as someone who has DATED guys who worship these "alpha males"- even seeking them out is a big red flag. They don't see women as people and all they're interesting is gaining XP to impress other men. They don't care about women and have no problems getting violent as soon as they feel like it.

[@lizlovsdagmara5525]

"You don't have to accept her rejection" = restraining order.

[@broidkanymore-zc4lt]

it teaches impressionable men that its okay to SA or 🍇 too; how does he even have a platform on tiktok ☠☠

[@rnbsteenstar]

That is dangerous.

[@Kimberly-fm1bc]

I just can't get past that idiot's lisp.

[@broidkanymore-zc4lt]

encourages SA too

[@kaicat7540]

I really love that you say “folks who are affected by misogyny.” It’s so validating as a transgender man who has been harassed this way. I love your videos!

[@bingusdingus7417]

Same here. I feel like I'm in a game of tug o war with my own identity

[@Genesis_06178]

@@bingusdingus7417sameee

[@the.masked.one.studio4899]

Me too!!! I’m trans masc 💗✨

[@R0mbVs]

This! Misogyny honestly affects us all. I've been going to events with a group of gay guys and Im straight but I recognize that the hatred the guys experience really is about how liking men is for women. Its all related.

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

Yeah I love Mickeys content because she always makes an effort to include as many people as she can!!! Which is always a green flag for a creator, a therapist, and just a person!!! ❤

[@oliveaches]

His long nails tell me everything I need to know about all the women he gets 😅

[@jclyntoledo]

Yeah but he doesn't seem like he's into foreplay either way

[@hkandm4s23]

Yep. All those imaginary women.

[@happythredz]

HA

[@justkiddin84]

Imaginary corn women.

[@gabiluch87]

😂😂😂😂

[@sparrowasmr1773]

As someone heavily in the kink and rope scene, "come to my house and see how I'm the master of ropes", would make anyone with the smallest amount of experience run the other way. And I think he knows that. Which means he's probably preying on new people who might be kink curious and he's most likely traumatizing them (if any of this is real at all).

[@AliceBunny05]

It's deeply disturbing and saddening people take advantage of such a (for some people) unexpectedly kind community and sully it's reputation. People are already judged enough, now we've got to deal with losers who claim to partake in kink and yet don't uphold it's most basic values and guidelines.

[@ramunebradfordtake2710]

He's giving a lot of Hammer vibes. Not safe at all. Yikes!

[@manuproulx2764]

If someone (whom I just met or went on a date with) told me "come to my house! I'll show you a good time", I would run faster than I've ever ran in my whole life!

Fortunately, I doubt that any of it is more than his own fantasies... he reeks of _"then everybody clapped"_ energy.

[@xejelah]

I'm going with 10k that never happened Johnny! I heard that whole thing. He said a woman already rejected him and he replied with how can you not, I'm the best! And because he said he's the best she responded with "how?" - that is not a normal conversation and any woman would've already walked away at that point. In order to find out 'how' she'd have to come to his house. A woman that already rejected you is not going to go home alone with you.

[@Biiku_]

The more I ineract with men like this, the more the 4B movement makes sense and the more I just want to quit straight cis men entirely. I don't want to be friends with them, I don't want to see them, I don't want to interact with them at all period. Were it not for being married with 3 kids, I think I would have quit a decade ago. Anyone else just want to quit? Like, let's just not.

[@annajohnson7139]

Tbh sounds like you need to find new social circles. People of all genders and identities can be lovely human beings, and that includes cis men.

[@Biiku_]

@annajohnson7139 what I heard from that was "that sucks, try harder". You don't understand. I don't want to try any more.

[@annajohnson7139]

@@Biiku_I’m sorry. It’s not on you to have to seek out better people. It must be awful that all the cis men you know are so sucky and being in relationship with them is not adding value to your life.

[@Biiku_]

@annajohnson7139 I'm sure you didn't mean for it to sound harsh, but unless someone tells us, how are we supposed to learn. I know I have given more than enough effort. Different states, different jobs, different countries. But every where I went, it was the same. Everyone suffering under a system created for specifically men, and everyone else perpetuating it to the detriment of all. But, after many attempts to fit myself into something that never existed and never could, (specifically the ideal mother, wife, daughter, sister, woman, adult, and sailor) I've had to accept that I am me. And me does not mix well with cis men and it's best for all involved if I remove myself instead of insisting that they change.

[@pasteldad39]

So you are the same just the reverse sex version of them

[@DataRae-AIEngineer]

Shit. Here I am almost done with a PhD in a male-dominated field, and thank God this dude is here to finally help me understand that I have a female mind and not a normal male mind.

[@AngelOfMusic12457]

thank you for saying "you are allowed". i constantly struggle with boundaries and am conflict averse which has gotten me into icky situations. gotta remind myself I AM ALLOWED. ppl who push boundaries do not deserve that level of grace

[@endTHEhegemony_Today]

Yes yes YES 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 I'm learning this too, and it is like a breath of healthy air!! 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Much Love and Strength To You!!

[@ghettocr42]

How did it never occur to any of these men to treat the human they are interested in as people?

[@AliceBunny05]

because at the core of this belief is that women are inherently less than. many people who hold misogynistic beliefs would never dare say it out loud, but it's really truly the basis of how these men treat women they are unfortunately attracted to.

[@elleofhearts8471]

probably because these are the same people who say society needs to make a return to tradition. And conveniently women have traditionally been treated like property. Theres a huge overlap between dating advice guys and reactionaries/antifeminists.

[@rexpowercolt8216]

Just want to say, in men's perspective men were women's slaves, doing the most hard job to survive, it was hard to hunt, build house and defend from attackers. Men built physically stronger so they are doing most dangerous and hard job, and women physically weaker(no hate) raised the kids, because it is very hard for them to build house or working on a farm, so in a kind of way men was women's property too, don't hate, i believe in equal rights for women and i respect them, just saying how it was long ago ​@@elleofhearts8471

[@therealtulip]

You assume they are interested in that human

[@Itri_Vega]

I'm a trans man and present very masculine (which is not a must for all trans men but I feel comfortable doing it). I'm also very passionate about my hobbies, gush about them, lose my mind over cute birds and am very expressive if I feel safe around someone. While I do not experience romantic attraction or sexual attraction at all I have been told by people of all genders that they like that expressiveness and that it makes them wanna try new things. Similarly, I love learning about what excites others. If someone told me I couldn't use a purple heart because it makes me less manly I'd laugh in their face.

[@endTHEhegemony_Today]

You sound fun and secure in your masculinity, and thats a really healthy way to be masculine!! 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 People who believe that Only Tough = masculine are insecure and it SHOWS 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 My favorite is the green heart!! Because I love green!! 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Much Love To You! Keep on being incredible!

[@MOTHHMAN]

heyyyy I'm a trans man on the aroace spectrum as well ❤ much love to you brother

[@TheDerpyDeed]

trans guys like this are the best, I'd love to hang out at my favorite bars with this kind of guy (the kind that presents very masc, understands my transition woes, and doesn't try to touch my boobs)

[@lilimandula]

good for you dude!!:)

[@elizabethyow1165]

Birds are awesome 🦜🐦 you seem like a great person!

[@semplybalanced3210]

Why do men treat dating women like they’re going to war. It’s so bizarre & gross.

[@flygirl1221]

Because they’re psychos

[@lpatterson787]

Prolly cuz adults are more comfortable explaining wars to teens than safe sex.

[@rigelc.hoffman2496]

You put yourself in a vulnerable position. You have one life, a higher chance of failing than succeeding. You can never get good at it... And most important, it sounds epic

[@dontme4132]

Because sexual conflict is at the base root of all male/female relationships

[@elleofhearts8471]

I get what you mean. there is a weird blurning of the lines between sex and violence, conflict and satisfaction, drama and victory, adversary and prey. The fact that they meet sexual desire and mystery with violence and brute force is quite telling. It's like primitive approach of meeting things you dont understand with violence and brute force.

[@britsaunders2151]

Fun fact: In many places (one being where I live) sleeping with someone under false pretenses is actually considered SA. Someone might wanna tell these manipulators that.

[@korpzmarcelfranca6825]

What is a "false pretense" in this context? And where do you live?

[@TheAshleydelmar]

The Content Machine video you included (the “woman should spend 200 dollars on a date video”) is satire. They are a comedy channel and were making fun of Andrew Tate type podcasts.

[@MistyEry]

Yes. Thankyou for saying this. I was looking for this comment.

[@empressdostomousky-ow8xs]

👏👏👏👏 came here to say this too. Still laughing at the guy in the Harvard sweatshirt and the wig with long hair 😂

[@kaiyakershaw1028]

Thank God! This restores a little of my faith that there are at least a few sane and decent men on the internet.

[@wrenbear]

thank you! i almost made my own comment about it until i found yours lol

[@Jefflon_Zuckergates]

It’s funny to think that it’s become this difficult distinguishing between red pill guys and straight up satire lmaoo

[@claredavis4026]

All of these men are 1000/10 on the ick scale.

[@meaghanorlinski8464]

One is the channel Content Machine, and it’s 100% satire and making fun of dudes like this. I’m actually a bit disappointed she didn’t look into them more. No point in being mad at this, or passing off that actual men think this way.

[@patriot-hj5vx]

Incel behavioto match their incel looks

[@sushmitaraodesaraju6330]

​@@meaghanorlinski8464Yeah, I'm surprised this creator didn't do more research on the people she was criticizing. I only clicked because I saw content machine in the thumbnail and the title of the video an thought "surely she realizes content machine is lampooning these alpha bro weirdos?" But she clearly did not

[@AmandaNoahMusic]

41:47 Mickey reached her max daily tolerance for BS, and without missing a beat, she offers us the best band-aid reminder: “You are a magical collection of stardust.” So clever and compassionate. Thank you!

[@franciebelcher4594]

What scares me, most, is the kids that watch that toxic crap. So many parents do not monitor their kids' content. There are no discussions, no alternative opinions shared, no education! So glad I don't have a family. Too scary.

[@ColdBaltBlue]

I experience the unusual phenomenon of having more women wanting to talk to me because I’m actually interested in what they have to say.

[@lindseystein9676]

Ugh, these “alpha male”/“pick up artist” weirdos are just complicating relationships in such a misguided and gross way.

[@kconway2263]

I know the alpha male is a disputed concept. A better term is probably bada$$ (not sure if cursing’s allowed here). Women can be one, too. These guys are way too self-aggrandizing to be “alphas.” A real bada$$ doesn’t need to brag about it. It’s obvious.

Sadly, I've even heard stories about some men _already in relationships_ starting to watch such videos and managing to get their asses dumped! How? Why? If you're in a relationship with someone who obviously likes you the way you are, what makes you think turning into this alpha dude-bro would be a good idea even if it were true that's what _every other woman_ was into? They're not just complicating relationships, they ruin them!

[@elleofhearts8471]

^it's because equality feels like you're being cheated out of having more when you're used to or are being convinced that the subjugation of women/male supremacy is normal. so ironic that dating gurus advice is leaving men who already had partners single. I wonder if they make the connection or are they gonna blame women for not playing their natural (god given) role 😒.

[@elleofhearts8471]

right? an didn't it ironic that the same group that wants to oversimplify relationship dynamics are the same ones trying to gamify them, making them needlessly confusing and conflicting.

[@squid3946]

My brother recently talked about a first date he went on to the movies and afterwards the woman agreed to drive separately to a restaurant for dinner but once they got in their cars she cancelled and ghosted him. He was upset because he paid and he felt entitled to the "basic human decency" of a conversation with her. I explained that it's not safe for women to reject men and that while it's fair to *expect* conversation on a date, he is not and will never be *entitled* to anything from anyone. He's even read books by authors like bell hooks and he agrees that women are oppressed, and yet he still feels his date owed him conversation because he paid for the movie. It truly can be anyone. Be safe out there folks.

[@gabiluch87]

Hope your brother listened to you!!

[@Jessicad9304]

Yikes. Honestly hearing the way men think about things just makes me afraid to go out with them at all. I got into a Reddit argument the other day that still has me shaken. It was a man talking about how girls ghost so much on the apps, and he mentioned it was annoying because no one calls them out. I politely explained that women have way more matches than men, and sometimes it can be difficult to respond to them all. I suggested he not take it personally and that it would be creepy to call them out. Then another dude came out of the woodwork, saying I should be swiping less if I don’t want so many matches 🤦‍♀️ and they piled on me, asking if I swiped so much just because I wanted validation. I honestly felt really attacked lol and I was like ok, that’s the last time I try to help a man understand something about the female experience. I have to say sometimes it’s hard not to say “I hate men” lol.

[@Biiku_]

Not even a second or reflection on what might have made her feel less safe to say no later or the idea that maybe she just... got tired?

[@Lady.Fern.]

@@Biiku_or a raging case of bubble guts lol then his likely crummy response to the situation kept her from explaining and trying again.

[@thesingerintheshower]

Thank you for being candid in your comment. I also admire that you challenged your brother's belief. Amazing ✨️ 👏 kudos to you, and thank you for sharing!

[@Isaacthesensei]

Welcome to another episode of “Nobody’s gayer than straight men!”

[@neodaltiair8624]

Homophobia!!!

[@tiffaneycerda744]

One time I heard a guy giving advice say” just treat her like your best friend, because at the end of the day that’s what you’re for in a partner.” I’ve had a crush on him ever since! That’s good dating advice

[@kimberlybega8271]

That is solid advice! Now that I am married I understand why my mom used to say, "The best couples start as friends." I like that my husband and I genuinely enjoy spending time together and have inside jokes.

[@Heideberry]

I went out with my colleagues yrs ago and some of my colleagues had some friends that joined us at the club. It was a fun night my colleagues friend danced with me. That was fine, what wasn't fine was the guy insisting on staying at my house when I had never met him before that night. He lived in a city that was about 50 mins away from the town I live in. He was saying how he was so tired and he'd rather stay the night in my town than get a lift or taxi home. There was no way I would allow a stranger to stay the night in my parents home without their permission either, they had gone to bed. I was not interested in that guy romantically or in any casual one night stand as that's not the type of person that I am at all. Hell no. He made me feel guilty as I was able to walk home as he was visiting his friend. He was using a sort of emotional blackmail to make me feel bad that he was tired and had to travel home. I felt like he might follow me home and I didn't feel safe. I had to walk home and my friends were going in a different direction. He took a good night to making me feel unsafe. What a creep.

[@Jessicad9304]

Thank you Mickey for the amazing breakdown! I usually don’t watch these types of alpha male videos because they’re so emotionally fatiguing, but sometimes I’m curious what they’re saying. This felt like a safe space to explore that. Now the next thing I want to say, I want to be clear that in NO WAY am I blaming the women in these scenarios. Men who treat dating and sex like games need to take responsibility for that behavior, and work on their ability to see themselves and others as autonomous beings. However, I think these views persist on the internet because in some cases it has worked for men. Before I was deep into my healing, I was somewhat attracted to emotionally unavailable men and what I thought was “masculine”. Now I know that was because they reminded me of the toxic men in my family. That said, even though I consented, it still wasn’t my fault that they went on to mistreat me and cause harm. I only mention this because it’s just another reason to focus on healing and growth!! Now if I catch even a whiff of these attitudes, I call the men out. I knew I was healed on a deep cellular level when I started feeling physically repulsed by them too, instead of attracted. Anyways Cheers!! Love your channel ❤️

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

Yeah I think some of these men do get encouraged by the fact they can keep finding victims but that is definitely not the victims fault. My ex was like this and luckily he wasn’t able to be as bad as he could have been because we were still teens and his parents would have hopefully stepped in for that. Finding someone emotionally vulnerable that could not set boundaries (me) absolutely made him think what he was doing was fine and that he wasn’t doing anything bad. It’s awful and one of the reasons we need more videos like this to both combat the men like this and help give their victims a place to maybe start getting out and healing. They’re definitely also encourage by people *not* stepping in when they do see or hear these things. Especially other cis men not stepping in.

[@endTHEhegemony_Today]

It's so true, patriarchy lays the framework for so much ab*se and grooming to happen at such a young age and at home in children's lives, that framework undermines (using the binary here in this context like misogynists do) women's ability to discern character flaws and mistakes and oversights from the manipulation that men use to gain access to them. 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 It's absolutely hideous. I hate that too, I used to blame myself for everything and had no self confidence and zero education on how to spot manipulation or set boundaries so I "played" into a lot of these tricks too, when I was just trying to make friends (guys never satisfied with just friends) and date peers. 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 (Also: the amount of dudes who LIE about their age is astounding, I look young for my age, but I am still my age, and no longer fall for the "lots of men Gray at 30" reason dudes have given me in the past for why they look 45-50 at the big age of 30, like me. I never wanted to hurt their feelings telling them they look older and never pushed back on it until a few years ago, but lie they do) 😝 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Much Love!!

[@Jessicad9304]

@@saltydinonuggies1841 yes, you’re exactly right! The reason I wanted to comment was because I could imagine if one of them watched this video… their response would be “well, it works”. Which is super problematic in itself, but I wanted to make a distinction that it might be working with women who are still operating from a place of trauma. Again, I tried to be really careful with wording because this line of thinking can easily devolve into victim blaming. I just really want to see more women standing up for themselves and walking away from bad behavior. Which is easier said than done of course!! And you are SO SPOT ON that more cis men need to be speaking out on this. That would bring so, so, so much change. I’ve seen it starting to happen in small online circles but they get lit up with abuse from other men calling them Simps. Really sad.

[@Jessicad9304]

@@endTHEhegemony_Today thanks for the very insightful comment - I can relate so much!! I definitely felt I was “groomed” by my family to later accept poor behavior from men. It’s taken years and tons of work to take back my power and set boundaries. I’ve also experienced men lying about age. One I met on a website put 49 when he was 54 because he said he didn’t want to be edged out of the younger girls setting the upper limit of their age range at 50 🤮

[@Jessicad9304]

⁠​⁠@@endTHEhegemony_Today you make such a good point. I definitely felt I was “groomed” by my family to accept poor behavior from men (and authority figures). It has taken years of healing and education to get to a place where I can set boundaries. And you’re right about some men lying about their age.. I met one on a website who said he was 49 but he was actually 54. He said it’s because he didn’t want to be cut out from the younger girls who set their upper age limit to 50 🤮

[@dawndreamweaver8373]

Thank you for this video Mickey. ❤️ Perfectly describes why I don’t date anymore. It’s too terrifying and I’ve been too traumatized by abusive men. Men’s loneliness crisis was preceded by women being abused and dehumanized for so long, that we’re are so lonely and traumatized that we’ve given up trying to engage. I hope content like this can help de-radicalize men who have fallen for the lies of the toxic patriarchy that abuse women and at the same time keeps men locked out of true connection and intimacy. 🤞

[@SableRain]

Thank you so much for this. I'm in a difficult marriage. My husband believes some of this stuff, and I actually did too for a while to try to make things better between us. The things you said in this video are so healing to hear. Thank you.

[@powderandpaint14]

If you need to seek help to leave safely contact a domestic abuse organisation, they can help you make a plan. Especially if you have kids.

[@celeste3100]

Dec. 31, 2023 I was at the grocery store buying some wine. A guy buying lots of booze tried to tell me he thought I was very beautiful bla bla bla. I told him I wasn't interested and he got booty hurt. I bought my wine and decided to walk the store so I can then walk to my car. I asked the self-check out lady if the dude was gone. She says he took off his big puffy coat and is standing by the exit. I saw him with his cart just waiting until I walked out. I'm sure to continue to harrass me. She called the store's manager to walk me out to my car. I waited 20 mins until I was able to leave the store! I was ready to call my brother to escort me out of the store. Finally the manager walked me out and he saw us walking out and didn't follow because he saw the manager walking with me to my car. Some guys believe NO means YES! This is why I stay at home and alone. The male species makes me feel not safe.

[@rooseveltcapehart1614]

That is unfortunate, and there is some truth to that. What I object to is your use of "male species." One main point of this video is that the creator and many of us viewers agree that using the term FEMALE minds ' (aka, all women) links all women together and takes away their individuality. Which is unfair and gross. But yet, here you are blaming the 'Male species' (aka, all men) for you feeling unsafe, instead of the action of a few individuals' men. So, how does that make you different from the men in those? Who I'm sure are speaking from their experience of being hurt by a few women, and just like you, find it hard to distinguish the actions of a few, and, instead, links the entire population together?

[@racheld6338]

I'm a friendly person and was a sheltered kid...I've had it where I just smiled at a guy in a store passing by me and he then turned around and followed me... I was like dude I just am friendly 😂 I've learned since then!

[@racheld6338]

I am a very friendly person and was a sheltered kid... I smiled at a guy in a store while passing by and he immediately turned around and started following me..I was like dude I'm just friendly 😂 I've learned since then!

[@willowway3349]

​@@rooseveltcapehart1614there is a very obvious distinction when it comes to comparing women traumatizing people to men traumatizing people. For centuries men have held the power and have created the systems in effect today that harm every single person. The reason people don't see women as predators is thanks to the patriarchy, the reason men don't usually fight for custody is due to the patriarchy, etc, etc. The violence that has been perpetrated against women by men as a whole society is very well documented for centuries. The governmental systems took rights away from women, often times with very violent means, there is nothing comparable that women have done to men. The amount of sex crimes that flood our history books, even the fact that marital r@pe wasn't even illegal until the 70s-90s in supposed "civilized" nations is barbaric. Now should we talk about the violence in the medical field that has targeted women for again centuries? How about the fact that the way women give birth in hospitals is thanks to a Male king's fetish? How about the fact that the "father" of gynecology systematically tortured and brutalized enslaved black women to "experiment"? How about the fact that for decades husbands would lobotomize their wives, institutionalize them, drug them, etc for something as small as having an opinion? How about the fact that women used to be able to own land and then that right was stolen for them, how about the fact that women had to fight for the right to vote and that black women had to fight for decades longer? How about the fact that women couldn't have their own bank accounts for decades? How about the fact that women used to not he able to divorce their husbands? There have been centuries of systemic violence that is mostly perpetrated by men and the patriarchy that has harmed and brutalized women for centuries, and it still continues to do so. The fact that 1 in 4 women is a victim of SA and yet when a victim comes out the first response is to try and prove them wrong. It is not dehumanizing to be wary of the primary source of violence in society. If women have traumatized you no woman will chastise you for being wary, men might. But if a woman is scared of men due to trauma and is just wary of all men you automatically cry "oppression". If you are a cis het white man you have never felt oppression based solely on who you are. Men are statistically the most likely to he violent, the most likely to sa, the most likely to do a myriad of things. If you'd be wary of a shark in an ocean why can't we be wary of men in a society built by them? Open a history book.

[@celeste3100]

@banquetoftheleviathan1404 I always have my airpods in when I walk into a store but I don't have anything playing so when they try to ask, I pretend I didn't hear them and keep walking. And you know all they're doing is trying to get to the next hit. I don't go to work to support your destructive habit! I do it for me!

[@silverlining7602]

He says, "This is my reality, and she is a guest." Then does he not expect her also to say, "This is my reality, and he is a guest"? What makes him think she will happily be a side character in his movie when he doesn't want to be a side character in her movie? What if she is a main character like him? Whose reality will then it be, and who will be the guest?

[@sadbunny23]

I mean, I'm sure every man thinks it's their reality and with the state of the world they're not exactly wrong

[@lpatterson787]

I would go to background npc character in his reality so fucking fast.

[@crystalheart9108]

I had a boyfriend who listened to Andrew Tate and tried to convert me to a Christian even though he knew going in I wasn't a Christian nor did I have plans to be one. When he started to get upset over me not wanting to convert he called my friend drunk and tried to get her to give him advice on if he should break up with me. 6 days later my bff spilt the beans to me and he got upset at her for telling me. This girl has known me since we were in the 7th grade, no way in hell was she not gonna tell me. He also barely knew her. She told him to just talk to me cause she knew it was something that could be worked out if he just communicated with me. Did he though? No, not at all. It was plain stupid 🙄

[@joshuabuchanan1141]

Andrew tates videos and his mindset are both super toxic

[@Alexandraadftxr7052]

Break up with him. Anyone who listens to that guy is toxic.

[@crystalheart9108]

@@Alexandraadftxr7052 yeah he gone already 😂 I told him that if he was going to disrespect my beliefs (that don't harm anyone!) while I respected his then I didn't see it as an equal relationship.

[@jurneybrown-smith-mz1eg]

You deserve so many more views. As a person with severe adhd you kept my attention through this entire video. I appreciate that you have the educational background to speak on these things so it adds extra credibility to what you have to say (not that it wouldn’t be credible if you didn’t have the education, it’s just kinda an extra layer of armor against misogynists). I’m glad I found you today :D

[@Greenplanet949]

While I also enjoy the fact that she has an educational background, why should we worry about some of the dumbest men on planet earth’s opinion?

[@scarletgoldenthorn]

There is absolutely no chance that the first dude is “pulling” numbers. The face, the voice, the overwhelming misogyny oozing out of him… Yeah no Seriously though, anyone who actually understands women would NEVER talk like this… unless they are a bad person.

[@yulebones]

Man that first guy talks a lot about what people NEED to be doing when all I can think is that he NEEDS to trim his nails. He really expects us to think he's "pulling numbers" when one glance at his hands can tell me he wouldn't be doing anything particularly fun with them. Blargh.

[@xxBreakxxAwayxx3]

😂😂

[@annak804]

Oh so true

[@agent_277]

I remember the „You don’t have to accept her rejection“ part going viral on TikTok. People just started blasting music over his voice so no one could hear him anymore. Best response 😂👏

[@AshleighCarter5100]

That guy needs to be in jail.

[@lizf1353]

Hey can you talk about how toxic masculinity is perpetuated primarily by men but often blamed on woman by many men. I see many examples of this. Just yesterday in a short of a girlfriend who paid off half of her boyfriend's home loan (very likely fake) one of the top comments was a guy who was saying "for all the women and girls who say men don't cry and show emotions this is how a man will cry with a woman....."

[@Greenplanet949]

Yes, if you pay him

[@gabiluch87]

There's a very famous singer from Central America that had this song back in the 90s that said "If you say no, think about it again, it might be in your best interest to say yes..." and it went on and on like this... It was considered one it the most romantic songs back then... The level of cringe I feel looking back at my younger self listening to this is insane.

[@estrellaln3836]

I'm from Central America and don´t really recall this. Who was the singer?

[@gabiluch87]

@@estrellaln3836 Ricardo Arjona

[@bottomofastairwell]

$200. on a first date. IN THIS ECONOMY?

[@TheDiamondNet]

That $200 guy is just a comedian making fun of alpha male dating podcasts

[@Gchildwarrior]

R/peoplewhobittheonion 😂

[@lilymulligan8180]

Ain't NOOOOO WAAAAAAYYYYY that first guy has slept with the numbers of women he claims to 😂😂😂😂 my man is trying so hard to manifest it for himself ahahahaha

[@FiraRP]

As soon as he mentioned kink I physically reacted.

[@goatbabe0666]

Same, I was watching this and instinctively clamped my legs SHUT.

[@playinglifeoneasy9226]

@@goatbabe0666 I think that’s what she meant because however, undesirable he is and I think he’s pretty “eww-creepy” undesirable, His mention of kink disturbing level of danger because he is a narcissist, objectifying, women, advocating, nonconsensual, and interactions.

[@feliciasjoberg9886]

26:22 Jake imprinting on Renesmee vibes

[@wooogie672]

“jake” 😭😭🤣

[@delphinedelphinedelphine]

Oh baby, am I ready to hear this roast about my ex 😆

[@wowlukewalker]

Is your ex one of the men in the video??????

[@veronica5lmaa]

What? That's your ex?

[@lifestylelines]

Who is it? 🤣🙆🏼‍♀️

[@FrumiousMing8]

Imprinting??? Ok Jacob Black... You cannot make fun of girls/women for liking Twilight, a fictional story, and then talk about imprinting like it's real. BE SERIOUS.

Depends on what species we're talking about but... for humans, yeah, silly. I saw the cutest video of some baby chicks that had imprinted on a cat, though... following it around, learning to be kittens. :-)

[@hannahpollard1010]

I've come across the first guy online before too. I could tell he was lying even from just a video of him talking about the fact that women _love_ when men wear a leather jacket. Acting like "all girls love the bad boys so you have to look like a bad boy wah wah" while he writes self insert romance fanfiction about himself being the coolest, baddest alpha ever.

[@MissBlueEyeliner]

10/10 that dude is a virgin and is bitter about it.

[@feliciasjoberg9886]

Speaking of danger: In "The Saga of Karissa Collins", Rachel reads Karissa's blog post about how she gave her number TO EVERY MAN SHE DANCED WITH IN THE CLUB.

[@justkiddin84]

Yeah. Don’t do that.

[@stephaniewright8570]

Im only 5 mins in and its so damn hard to watch these guys even with Mickey's commentary. So much ick

[@jinijinxer97]

FR had to literally speed up the rubbish that come out their mouths to 1.25 😂

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

35:08 I literally didn’t realize any of these guys were “looking” for relationships, I thought they were one night standing.

[@huzzahfancypants2023]

That first guy films in his car, I’m convinced, because he lives with his mom and she still folds his underpants for him.

[@tdaddy26]

I understand why a lot of femme presenting youtubers concentrate their critiques on other women instead of men (because men will send them threats etc) but it is really nice to see someone actually calling out men instead of focusing all their attention on what women are doing wrong, because the latter is often less harmful than the former. Thanks, Mickey.

[@wonhur885]

Fascinating video, Let's stop taking relationship and family for granted. I have battled depression since my wife left me. I have tried all I can to make her see that I love her with everything I am made of but she has insisted on leaving. This has made me so empty, and I do not know what to do. I can barely function properly at work. I am frustrated and miserable. I really miss her.

[@wonhur885]

I'm keen on meeting the counsellor you're talking about. What steps should I take?

[@wonhur885]

Thank you for this information. I have just looked her up on Google. impressive.

[@meeowmeeowmeeow]

I'm sorry you're going through this. Breaking up from someone you love and have been with for a long time is very hard, I've been through it myself recently and my ex is struggling with depression since it happened also. It does get better eventually... Hang in there and go to therapy. It will all be all right in the end. Love will bloom again some day just as the flowers do 😊

[@angel-astanfield7939]

Apparently men are punching women in the face in New York City in broad daylight after they get turned down. Listened to a story from Don’t Cross a Gay Man who had it happened to friends while on a girls night out. All the women were married. Love to you all in the USA. 💕🇨🇦

[@brandy4530]

Does “pull numbers” mean sleep around? Because that’s not dating. That is just sleeping around. Which is fine, but not when your sleeping around is based on lying to people by trying to convince them that this is a relationship.

[@Ryanneey]

Everything about this first guy screams, she's probably going to regret her encounter with me, but I didn’t force her, I just coerced her. Barf!

[@kiasaur7986]

“Pulling numbers” as a dating coach just means you’re a bad dating coach lol He has numbers because nobody stays.

[@nonenone5413]

24:00 THANK YOU for speaking this observation. I have heard people (mostly women, but also some men) paint these guys as these sympathetic long suffering tragic heroes who just want somebody to love them but don't know how to go about it - and it is not true! You are right, they never talk about finding a partner to whom they can give love and respect and share companionship with who is a 'good fit' for them. it is about finding "hot" women, and about getting their rocks off, etc.

[@ouo7343]

I love how you say “women and folx who are negatively affected by misogyny”. It centres women in women’s issues without negating gender queer, trans, and otherwise femme humans. Very respectful. No one can argue with that.

[@RandomSwiftie13]

Men themselves have also been negatively affected by misogyny.

[@MonicaG_]

To the detriment of humanity, bigots argue witlegislative. Loudly and dangerously enough thru social media but even worse, legislatively.

[@MonicaG_]

​@@RandomSwiftie13 💯💯

[@elleofhearts8471]

^you are absolutely right, even if derailing the conversation. Men HAVE been negatively affected by mysoginy. Gee, I wonder what MEN are doing to push back against or abolish mysoginy since we can all agree what mysoginy hurts everyone 🤔

[@gunshitknife]

​@@elleofhearts8471jack shyt, is what theyre doing.

[@wolfeprocter]

"It is my reality, and she is just a guest." That's just main character syndrome. No, it is not my reality, nor is it your reality, nor is it her or his or any single person's reality, and it is not everyone's reality. It is simply reality. It is simply that which is not false or incorrect or fictional or imaginary or make-believe or any of that, and you are either aware and cognizant of reality, or you are ignorant and even escapist of reality.

[@gingerannamae6308]

And if you can't tell the difference, you're what they call schizophrenic.

[@karinagutierrez7134]

31:09 Super important to know that video is satire!! I’ve seen other videos including him and they’re all parodies of other types of people

[@afrofaeries]

Oh okay because I was like THESE MEN GOTTA BE DL 😂😂😂😂

[@immortalalia]

Yes! I was like, those people are known for satire. But they do it too well sometimes 😂

[@rachelstechman5959]

Ooh, got links? I would be keen to check those out

[@karinagutierrez7134]

@@rachelstechman5959 The channel name is content_machine !

[@solar0wind]

​@@rachelstechman5959 They're called Content Machine.

[@graciespaceycakes3714]

My bird shat on my chair back from the very top of her cage, perfectly splattering the exposed skin of my lower back with cold poop almost indistinguishable from the chill crawling up my spine. 4D youtube experience

[@xxBreakxxAwayxx3]

cheaper than VR

[@yourancientancestor]

Probably still smelled better than these guys ass cracks

[@annak804]

🤣🤢

[@sheldonpon9141]

Mickey really needs merch that says "that's a wild-ass fucking take"

[@jeannedd.2709]

Yessssss

[@feliciasjoberg9886]

Recommend Münecat's video about the manosphere!

[@R0mbVs]

Münecat ❤

[@Shayistic]

absolutely, some of my red pilled bro's turned normal after watching that video

[@jcfreak2007]

I swear, even as a woman who was raised by a Narcissistic father and taught by the church that I was a second class citizen and before I healed from those views, if someone had told me that it was his reality and I was just living in it, I would have been like, "Boy bye! I don't want anything to do with you!" 😂😂😂 I have a lovely husband now and much better self-esteem now than what I grew up with but even before I gained that self-esteem I definitely wouldn't have gone for a "boy" like that because I was looking for someone who was the exact opposite of my father!

[@Terracotta_Me]

I’m 100% certain the kink community around that guy has rejected him wholeheartedly and he’s decided he doesn’t need that community…

[@arranmphillips]

I really wish every single male "dating expert" would watch this video because it is such a fucking smackdown

[@Butterflier00]

too bad they won't cause they will never see any woman as intellectually superior or equal.

[@VioletFoxisms]

It wouldn’t matter.. any intelligent woman with expertise and opinions is a ‘low value woman’ in their eyes🤡

[@gigahorse1475]

It wouldn’t get through to them. They’d just be like “hur dur I don’t listen to women with colored hair.”

[@jinijinxer97]

They will just show they're hatred. I recently commented on a war veteran PTSD thread "This is why I'm a female psych student" & a dude was literally "you're a dangerous umcompassionate person who's intellect is better suited for hairdressing lady"

[@ripleysigningoff1231]

Yeah, they need to be forced to watch this stuff, Clockwork Orange style.

[@motorcitymangababe]

My pre watch hypothisis for this video that I'm about to hear a buncha nonsense that these dudes would be very salty about being used on them. Can't wait to find out! ETA: yuuuuuup

[@abbywolf9701]

Ohhh I am READY for your take on this, Mickey! I hate these kinds of men with a burning passion 😂

[@siyuancarter-patkau9260]

"The female mind" doesn't really need explaining imo... Like, treat us like fellow humans with kindness and respect and that's a good start??? It should not be that difficult. And yet.

[@AliceBunny05]

"The female mind" as if we all share one brain. There is no such thing as the female mind or male mind, there has simply been a forced false dichotomy among men and women for so long that we've developed these sort of differences. If women were treated the same as men from the beginning, we'd all be much more aware of how similar we really are.

[@walterhoward5512]

31:08 Is Content Machine. They are a comedy channel and that video is a satire of pickup artists.

[@ilioo90]

Honestly, if we throw out every bit of the imprint shit, it could be actual good dating advice. "Go out and try new things or foods." That does sound like a wonderful date idea, "hey this restaurant just opened, want to try it?" Or something, I LOVE stuff like that and it gives you some things to talk about since it might be a new experience for you both. But the rest made me about retch...