INSANE $700 Helicopter CRASH!!!

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TheRcSaylors

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@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
Check out the RC Helicopter here: bit.ly/3Kd9kxh LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS HERE: join.modelaircraft.org/rc-saylors/ This is our most expensive RC helicopter crash ever. This insane $700 rc helicopter crashes on takeoff. This is the Fly Wing UH-1 V3 rc heli. Upon reviewing everything we still have no idea why this failure occurred. Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Disclosure: This description box contains affiliate links. Check out the RC Helicopter here: bit.ly/3Kd9kxh LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS HERE: join.modelaircraft.org/rc-saylors/ The products in this video are rated for ages 14+. Support TheRcSaylors Patreon & Stickers | www.patreon.com/TheRcSaylors Merch | www.thercsaylorsyt.com/shirts Mail | 1140 Carter Ave, P.O. Box 361, Ashland, Kentucky 41101 Social Media TheRcSaylors Shorts | bit.ly/3rN37xp Facebook | facebook.com/thercsaylors Instagram | instagram.com/thercsaylors Twitter | twitter.com/thercsaylors Vlog and Live Channel | kzbin.info SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR PATREON FAMILY!! Jesper Larsen, john salt, Jose Valentin, Michael Keller, Michael Schouten, RC HOOLIGANS, Richard Higginson, Robert Sanges, Ryan Alexander, Terry Kellogg, The Brennan's, Bob Hardy, Chris Hamlett, Chuck R, David Chenzoff, dmilbrandt, Doug Dahlheimer, erik palmberg, Gary Zion, Haar Bear, Jason day, and Jeff Buys #rchelicopter #rcheli #crash
@paulariano4506
@paulariano4506 Жыл бұрын
The mechanics and electronics in these helicopters are all version 1 that's the issue, fly-wing
@joserefe5950
@joserefe5950 Жыл бұрын
The GPS setting and calibration was probably set to some other countries. You should have reprogram it using a laptop and internet. Also, after few turns of the tail rotor it stopped then it started to turn backwards.
@rasmusbengtsson2787
@rasmusbengtsson2787 Жыл бұрын
why recomand a shitty heli?
@zacharymarcum5628
@zacharymarcum5628 Жыл бұрын
I'm just not too far away from you outside of HTN, WV. I am a seasoned intermediate collective pitch rc hobbyist-worked my way up into the blade models to the 450 size collective etc. I was very excited about this chopper.....had 1 single great flight on the v3 huey/ 2nd flight was hovering to show my brother at a family function and all of a sudden chopper went left uncontrollably........home switch did not solve.....had to hit the off switch and it came down hard. I ordered new gear had a week later /repaired it as damage suprisingly wasn't too severe./ went thru the setup etc/all a go with gps and receiver prompts/colors/-the esc was very hot and no spool up......there are issues with this version/ so don't blame yourself. I believe there are issues with the esc as well as the connecting rods/degree of binding and popping off.... as some have pointed out. Too many issues so far reported.
@truenaturestormers2525
@truenaturestormers2525 Жыл бұрын
Bummer, I am just glad you and the wife, are ok.
@squaddingquads
@squaddingquads 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for this I was going to drop 700 bucks on one myself for Xmas and to help my channel as I've just gotten into reviewing helis, I don't think I'll pick one up now, thanks very much for this video and I'm really genuinely glad your both safe from it, could have been much worse.
@js32257
@js32257 Жыл бұрын
For all new to helis: You should mount the tail rotor without the main blades and verify you can yaw the heli correctly on the ground and also that the gyro corrects in the right direction. To test the gyro hold the heli in such a way that you don't get hit by the tailblades and yaw the heli by physically moving it. You should feel it resist the yaw. If the gyro accelerates the yaw then the correction is backwards.
@exit1368
@exit1368 Жыл бұрын
🤙 Great advice, many thanks. I did this yesterday several times before taking up my Flywing Bell 206. Everything was textbook perfect for the maiden flight in 10 mph winds. Hopefully they give this one another whirl. Had a blast flying mine! 😎
@maximumdeflection2113
@maximumdeflection2113 11 ай бұрын
RTF doesn’t mean RTF. Everything should be looked over before a maiden, and double checked. Also always perform a preflight check. Learn to fly the basics without the assistance of the flight controller just in case,😉. This could of been prevented. The important thing is that no one was injured. Yeah I’m late to the party! Lol
@joshandersons6914
@joshandersons6914 9 ай бұрын
Please keep this video on youtube and never take it off because of pressure from the company or anyone. $700 is a lot of money people have to spend their saving to get this helicopter. As buyers, we deserve to know the quality of the product we purchase, especially at this HIGH price.
@urnotaman4444
@urnotaman4444 4 ай бұрын
...😂People don't need to know About it Cause after they crash they can get off hobby and we won't have to see them anymore because they don't belong in the hobby in the 1st place because they're posers
@goldenmanuever1176
@goldenmanuever1176 Жыл бұрын
GLAD you never took this down. Long time FW user. This V3 Huey got absolutely DESTROYED in the comments section of the product showcase video by MotionRC. I mean nuke'd..so bad that they REMOVED the video a week later. I wonder if A) FW asked them to remove it or B) its because they are seller of them. Good to see there is someone who still has some kind of a moral compass in this day and age.
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
I’ve always said Motion plays dirty, because they do. Interesting to know they’ll delete comments and even videos if they can’t handle the truth! Did you know this company has offered to pay us to remove the video? They’ve said they’d send another helicopter too, but only if we agreed to remove this. I think it’s important for people to know the truth, and so many will sell out or back down when challenged with doing the right thing. Like Motion! ⚓️
@jeffgagawood3741
@jeffgagawood3741 Жыл бұрын
Guys don’t worry about the negative comments as you know everybody’s a EXPERT on the comments!! I’m glad you all didn’t get hurt, glad you’ve brought this to light! I’m constantly emailing manufacturers to test products and always shot down. I’ve been racing cars and off road trucks for over 30 plus years and I’ve seen it all. But glad you get to make a living doing what you love which in the end is all that matters.
@MerryBoozerRC
@MerryBoozerRC Жыл бұрын
I have flown this helicopter a lot this week. You did everything correctly unfortunately looks like you had a defective one. It’s actually super fun. Whoever you got it from get a warranty and try again. If you get one that works it’s absolutely amazing.
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
Dude! It’s so good to hear from you! 😁😎❤️ I wasn’t even sure if you were still active on this channel! 👍💯 Really appreciate your input here. Makes me feel so much better ⚓️
@paulariano4506
@paulariano4506 Жыл бұрын
I bought two these from motion RC and they're both we're junk , and a top that all they're all version 1
@MerryBoozerRC
@MerryBoozerRC Жыл бұрын
@@TheRcSaylors I’m not really active on MB anymore now that I’m full time at Motion RC. But sometimes I still comment with it. Yea we just got them in stock and I’ve been letting everyone try it at the field. Sorry to hear you got a bad one I highly recommend you get a replacement as this helicopter is awesome. I almost wonder if your tail rotor was wired backwards somehow from the factory. Hopefully you can get another one and give it a proper review because I think you would truly love this one.
@paulariano4506
@paulariano4506 Жыл бұрын
They don't tell you that the mechanics and electronics on these helicopters, when you buy them are version 1 not version 3
@timdoyle8199
@timdoyle8199 Жыл бұрын
I got one where the tail rotor was wired backwards, luckily because of your video I was able to catch it and rewire it😮😅
@Flight6677
@Flight6677 Жыл бұрын
I did not see you do any pre-flight checks. Most important is to check the response of the gyro - in your case its looks like you had the tail response reversed. You also need to check the gyro response for aileron and pitch. Again, its absolutely the most important thing when maidening a helicopter of this size.
@davidlevine2682
@davidlevine2682 Жыл бұрын
It was definitely a teal rotor issue. Whether it was installed backwards at the factory or the motor was turning it the wrong way that’s what made it spin out of control.
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 Жыл бұрын
I am no heli expert but it looks like the tail motor was wired in the wrong direction. The good news is that you can learn from every crash. I think in the future it might make sense to test the motor direction before installing the main blades. I know how bad it can feel but don't be discouraged. The factory should have made sure the wires were right for the tail motor but it doesn't hurt to check. BTW, my hindsight is 20/20.
@ronaldcobbs5260
@ronaldcobbs5260 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. You did everything right. The tail motor failed. Not your fault. I own several Flywing FW450Ls. I own that one and crashed several of them. Flywing has quality control issues. I fly them often and have crashed several times due to manufacturers defects. No worries. All you could do is flip the off switch once back down. I crashed the Bell 206 when gps failed. I delayed a second to flip that switch too. Still repairing it now. No worries.
@richardhalliday6469
@richardhalliday6469 Жыл бұрын
Captain Drone is flying both the mark 1 and mark 2 versions of this drone on his channel posted today, they look pretty good in the air.
@Lonsome1223
@Lonsome1223 Жыл бұрын
That was a tail rotor failure i had the same problem with the fw450 the tail boom wasn't fully pushed in so the motor didn't spin.But in your case the motor was spinning so either it was going the wrong way or the motor wasn't producing enough thrust.
@kenappleby8481
@kenappleby8481 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you guys showing this and glad you're both safe. You should do a follow-up to let us know how support with the company over this goes. Do you show them a video and see what they say? How do they handle the incident for customers?
@tonykyle2655
@tonykyle2655 Жыл бұрын
Please post a follow-up after you do the root cause analysis and if the company provides you any support. ty
@djcarld
@djcarld Жыл бұрын
It seemed to behave like the tail gyro part of your flybarless system was reversed. That could be a flaw caused at the factory when they set it up. I don't believe this was pilot error, as I've seen you fly helis before with no issues.
@stewartcaulfield6969
@stewartcaulfield6969 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it looked like the tail rotor is spinning opposite its started and stopped and then started again when you powered up. But I think it was spinning in the wrong direction. There was absolutely no tail rotor authority
@SodCase
@SodCase Жыл бұрын
yea 100% what it was
@alexcrasci3940
@alexcrasci3940 11 ай бұрын
I would like to know if u found out what caused this heli to go out of control and crash because im interested in puchasing one but now im scared to its alot of money for a malfunction like that
@glenwhatley7366
@glenwhatley7366 Жыл бұрын
I think you might have missed the orientation/initialization procedure for the h1 controller. Well since it's crashed maybe you can get a kensen receiver fix it and learn the prodeure to set it up for your dsmx radio. You could also strap it down to a table ir build a test stand to confirm your setup is good. Thanks for sharing your experience. I've been looking at getting one of these myself. I've also watched John Salt's setup on the the h1 receiver with his radiomaster setup. He makes some good points.
@glenwhatley7366
@glenwhatley7366 Жыл бұрын
OK I just saw captain drone do a review on this. If you have a version 3 you didn't do anything wrong. They may not have correctly oriented the gps at the factory. He was using a version 3 and said it didn't require the orientation procedure out of the box.
@goldenmanuever1176
@goldenmanuever1176 Жыл бұрын
Dude, gotta be careful. As an insurance professional, AMA is an excess policy not primary. You fly into something or blow someone's car up, it's your homeowners, umbrella or whatever policies you may have first, not the AMA.
@cheynevoss8994
@cheynevoss8994 Жыл бұрын
"Keep filming" best quote ever....
@darkdaze3860
@darkdaze3860 9 ай бұрын
Hey Nate and Abby! Thanks for posting this video. You guys keep it real, that's what's great about your channel! I feel your pain Nate!
@majorsmackdown
@majorsmackdown 23 күн бұрын
First sign of trouble you hit throttle hold. This is the danger of not verifying all motors servos and gyros before trying to fly.. and not knowing how to do a technical inspection and maiden on a helicopter. I’m not being mean I’m just stating the facts. There is a lot of temptation for people to skip heli indoc. I’ve seen the same type of results numerous times.
@delbert9357
@delbert9357 Жыл бұрын
Back in 2008 over the winter I built a stunt plane with a O.S. 40 on it. I have everything dialed in, go to the field do a range check with my old now 75 MHZ radio. Took off great then got weird and went straight up and straight down and disintegrated. I forgot to put my antenna out. You guys are great. Keep having fun.
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
Man. I’m really sorry to hear about this crash! But also really appreciate you sharing it because it lets me know that I’m not alone! Thank you 🙏❤️😎💯⚓️
@goldenmanuever1176
@goldenmanuever1176 Жыл бұрын
For the younger physics students, this is a great demonstration of Newton's 3rd law. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi Жыл бұрын
Tail rotor was turning the wrong way, it's motor was mis-wired. Evidence: As seen at 02:52, the tail rotor was turning the other way around. Not only because by turning the way it did it had its top blade moving forward and bottom blade moving aft (contrary to what is generally used), but especially because turning this way the blades are obviously turning backwards, i.e., the blades are advancing leading edge-first, as can be seen by the blade shape at 06:14. The tail rotor motor is wired incorrectly. To fix it: if it is a brushed motor, swap its two wires. If it is brushless, swap any two of its 3 wires. Regarding the crash itself, if you did the connection yourself, then that's that. If, however, the motor came pre-wirerd, then someone at the factory is to blame and you're in for a replacement. Here's one check that could be done prior to flying those ready-built helis for the first time: remove ALL of the rotor blades (main and tail), and briefly spin up the motors, verifying that they in fact turn in their appropriate directions. Mistakes do happen, and this simple check can save the day.
@welder062
@welder062 Жыл бұрын
Man, that was bananas. I'm glad you are both doing well. Helicopters 🚁 are so scary when they are running good. When this happens people can get injured very badly. You can so hear the disappointment and sadness in your voice. Never really heard you rattled before. Again, glad you are all ok..
@Tkeets
@Tkeets Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your crash. Something was defiantly wrong with the tail (not spinning or turning in the wrong direction). I’m not sure what you did or checked before this flight, but you should never take off that quickly on a maiden flight. I’ve been flying RC helis for over 30 years, and I always take off very slowly on my first flight to make sure everything is set up correctly. I will admit, I’ve had the same issue you did with 1 or 2 helis on their maidens, where I had the tail gyro correcting in the wrong direction, but I was only light on the skids when I realized it was about to spin out of control, so I could stop it before anything bad happened.
@M4rkmcc21
@M4rkmcc21 Жыл бұрын
Nate dont take this the wrong way as its ment as a compliment... I love how genuinely goofy, realistic, honest and how "unprofessional" you are. U represent the ppl and you make mistakes, u laugh and giggle and show the real side of this hobby, where 💩 and 😂 does happen. If i was gona spend a day flying with any KZbinrs it would be with you and obv Captain Brian Philips 🍻
@bobturner3388
@bobturner3388 Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats HONESTY!
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
Thank you! ❤️🙏💯⚓️
@edkessel3599
@edkessel3599 Жыл бұрын
Captain Drone KZbin channel posted his flight video of this helicopter this morning and it sounded differently than the one you were flying. Probably doesn't mean a thing but I did notice a difference.
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi Жыл бұрын
Tail rotor motor is turning in the wrong direction. Its motor is mis-wired.
@mikelinderman8514
@mikelinderman8514 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, and your safe to live and fly another day
@ricardopr54
@ricardopr54 Жыл бұрын
Any second part video with the aftermath on this matter? That would make an interesting video! 😁👍🏾
@threefingeredrc
@threefingeredrc Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you guys are safe. That’s the most important thing. In the end, getting paid to play with toys is the life. Keep up the great work. 😊
@russgalpin7943
@russgalpin7943 Жыл бұрын
Boy, I’m glad I saw this, and read the comments, I was just about to pull the handle on buying this. To read that Flywing and Motion won’t cover this, can’t afford $700 defects.
@Mike_and_Life
@Mike_and_Life Жыл бұрын
I love this video! Thank you for sharing it.
@FORDEVR
@FORDEVR 9 ай бұрын
Crashes suck! Crashing on youtube sucks more. Thanks for posting. Great video and many ppl have learned a lot.
@Tye13274
@Tye13274 Жыл бұрын
The gyro tail rotor direction was backwards It was trying to compensate the wrong way. Did you verify tail rotor direction? You shouldn’t have to as a RTF but still.
@scotboy1297
@scotboy1297 Жыл бұрын
We are at mercy of quality control of all of these manufacturers from overseas, these things can and will happen and you took safeguards that you could take, dont beat yourself up.
@Hoomi2
@Hoomi2 Жыл бұрын
My suspicion is something wrong with the tail rotor motor or ESC, and the tail rotor ESC was the source of the smoke. The battery, from what I could see in the video, did not look like it had suffered catastrophic failure. As others have said, the way it was spinning was indicative of insufficient tail rotor power to counteract the main rotor torque. When it was sitting on the ground, the friction of the skids on the pavement was enough to keep it from spinning, but when you lifted off, there was no longer any resistance.
@MrZeek101
@MrZeek101 Жыл бұрын
Elecrical failure on ESC and motor were caused from power still on when it tipped over and hit the ground and Nate you were right about everything else except not hitting kill switch other then that thank you for posting the whole video God Bless Take Care
@joselenisolidum3158
@joselenisolidum3158 Жыл бұрын
Love ths vid. Keep giving us Crash vids. More exciting to watch!!!
@petewatts30
@petewatts30 Жыл бұрын
Its a scale feature you must have pressed the "mayday mayday were going down" button. Clever how they did the smoke at the end.
@BobbyKimbrough
@BobbyKimbrough Жыл бұрын
I ordered one of these from RCGoing then watched your video. That made me very cautious when mine came and I started it up. Needless to say, I went super slow and double checked everything. My flight experience was far different than yours, but I have to say that your video made me go slow and do things correctly. So... from that aspect, your video had a positive impact on my experience. For years I was an editor for a couple of digital car magazines. I was always amazed by the keyboard warriors that never had anything positive to add, nor did they put out any content of their own. The people that hate on this or other planes because they aren't "real" helicopters or whatever... do nothing more than drive people away from the hobby. I appreciate that you put out content that is interesting and helpful. If it helps anyone that gets involved in the hobby to have fun... then it is worth it. Keep putting out more content. There are plenty of us that enjoy and benefit from what you do.
@unzipitjoe8928
@unzipitjoe8928 Жыл бұрын
That was soooo fricking cool!!! At least minimal damage was done! I love ❤ watching this your videos!! 👍
@bernardhfox
@bernardhfox Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss! I lost a quadcopter I loved a year ago. I panicked and hit the disarm instead of GPS rescue, completely my fault. It plagued me because I really liked that quadcopter. It may be recoverable however it went down in tall thorny brush, a tick infested area and I don't want to risk being attacked by ticks. Nate don't be so hard on yourself, I've recently had some bad days of RC however not all days go like this but some do. Wishing y'all the best!
@AL-RCjunkie
@AL-RCjunkie Жыл бұрын
I crashed my UMX timberX into a tree branch, where it stayed, 25ft up yesterday. Ive flown that plane 100s of times. But, stuff happens. And it seems to happen when you really don't want or expect it- like on a youtube review or while showing your dad what a good rc pilot you've become... whoops. Dad helped me get the plane down. And it's flying again- broke a wheel when the tree finally let it go. But, now it's on floats! 😊 Love your videos. Hope you get to evac some little army men out of an RC hot LZ with a Huey soon 👍
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
🙏❤️💯⚓️ Your comment means more to me than you probably know!! Thank you!
@713Ace529
@713Ace529 Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for keeping the camera rolling guys. What a bummer for you Nate!. I’m sure you’ll get it next time.
@FlyingFun.
@FlyingFun. Жыл бұрын
Looking at the video of it starting It looked like the tail motor was going the wrong way but if that was the case I think it would have spun on the ground, but maybe the heli was very heavy and so held in place by friction. If tail motor was going the right way it will be the gyro that was set up wrong. The tail rotor is installed the same way as other reviews and looks correct to me , I think it will just be the wires were wrong on tail motor.
@reelemin7864
@reelemin7864 Жыл бұрын
Seems like something with tail was defective. I was really looking forward to see this one fly too!
@BDF-
@BDF- Жыл бұрын
Agreed -- I was waiting with baited breath to see that bird in the air. 😲
@TK-fp5fp
@TK-fp5fp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this, after watching & watching it sure looks like there was a problem right off the start. It started to autorotate at lift off so I'd be interested in what the manufacturer said about it, it really looks like factory defect. Hopefully you can post a follow up video to keep us updated because $700 is a lot of money for some people and your experience with it could save others from a bad situation. Have a great day you guys and keep flying.
@karlnowakowski7866
@karlnowakowski7866 Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched the tail rotor spin on slow speed and then the tail rotor spin. The tail rotor is spinning in the wrong direction which means two of the wires from the motor to the esc need to be swapped to make it spin in the right direction.
@frederickwilliams2183
@frederickwilliams2183 Жыл бұрын
Factory error...? Wiring I'll guess many more affected but not pretested?
@SightsNjunk
@SightsNjunk Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for taking us with you on this tumultuous journey.
@saundylove
@saundylove Жыл бұрын
On the bangood site the heli tail rota is mounted on the left side, yours is mounted on the right.. This could possibly the issue.
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I will say the motor and prop does come installed like this. Any chance they maybe just “reversed” the photo? 🤔🤷‍♂️⚓️
@brianharris7029
@brianharris7029 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRcSaylorspics of it flying show tail rotor on the right side like yours
@jasongixxer6438
@jasongixxer6438 Жыл бұрын
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@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
HI, engineer and private ilot here. 1:51 From plan view (i.e. from the top) the rotor is supposed to spin clockwise. In doing so, the resultant torque will try to turn the tail anticlockwise. To counteract the torque, the tail rotor must try to blow air. 0:42 from the angle of the blades, to blow air, the rotor must turn anticlockwise. However, at 2:53 we can see the tail rotor spin clockwise. So, not only the tail rotor NOT counteracting the torque, but also contributing to the torque. Therefore, this is 100% NOT your fault, but I believe the manufacturer miswired the tail rotor. This is a manufacturing defect so I think if you contact the manufacturer, they should be obliged to either repair it, or send you a new unit. Q.E.D.
@stuartthurstan
@stuartthurstan Жыл бұрын
You are of course, quite correct, however it seems to me (watching the video frame by frame) that although tail does in fact start initially in the wrong direction it then appears to stop 2:53 and restart in the correct direction. Not easy to see though because of the speed of rotation, camera shutter speed and playback framerate. It may just be an optical effect. Clearly though, something wasn't right with the tail or gyro.
@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
@@stuartthurstan Yes, it started in the wrong direction. That it seemed to spin again the correct direction I believe is an optical illusion. A correctly built rotor, propeller or turbine system should not be able to spin both directions.
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
So glad to know it wasn’t my fault! I was really worried for a bit, so greatly appreciate your feedback! Also, much respect knowing both an engineer and private pilot might watch our videos every now and then!! Thanks so much for the input and for watching! 👍💯❤️😎⚓️
@Zeaiclies
@Zeaiclies Жыл бұрын
I also suspect the tail rotor was wired wrong direction.
@anthoneyking6572
@anthoneyking6572 Жыл бұрын
Hi I hope you let us Know what the seller says about it as I'm sure it was not your fault it seemed the tail dint respond to the flight ?? thanks for showing this
@kunzjake
@kunzjake Жыл бұрын
Dude i'm so bummed that happened! I really wanted to see how that airframe performed.. Looking forward to a follow up video for sure! You and Abby are awesome!!!
@emersonb5764
@emersonb5764 Жыл бұрын
Good case for thorough pre-flight check. Even if it’s pre-assembled. Check your tail rotor direction. Hitting throttle hold in time takes practice too. Don’t beat yourself up. I like to give the rudder stick a bit of a gentle test when the heli is on the ground and light on the skids.
@glenwhatley7366
@glenwhatley7366 Жыл бұрын
Well said. I wonder if this could inspire him to build a test stsnd.
@BenjySparky
@BenjySparky Жыл бұрын
Abby and Nate y'all rock! Love the channel and content! Peace
@sbass32
@sbass32 Жыл бұрын
Nate keep us informed,that was a malfunction for sure. Love your channel,you guys seem like old friends to me lol Keep up the good work.
@oggycat73
@oggycat73 Жыл бұрын
Not your fault. I started helicopter flying with the small ones that are ready to fly. The experience has been very much the same as yours. Then I built my first T-Rex(450) and that's when things started to get much easier. The easiest thing to fly is my T-Rex 700 Pro HV. Built and adjusted by myself and flown on its back and loops with no effort. Believe me.... I was blown away by how much better they handle.
@johnwittmann26
@johnwittmann26 Жыл бұрын
I started flying RC 3 years ago after a very long hiatus of nearly 50 years. Military, family, work, and a whole host of things required my attention rather than RC. I found a somewhat local AMA club and latched onto an incredibly talented member who took me under his wing. I bought an Apprentice STS, flew about a dozen buddy box flights with him and have been a solo flier ever since. What I didn't tell him was that I purchased the GPS accessory and several weeks later he noticed the plane doing that telltale dance and reminded me that he had told me from the beginning not to buy it after I owned up having it. The result after the maiden takeoff with the GPS was akin to what Nate experienced and I could not disengage the GPS. It circled higher and higher then abruptly came in for a near full throttle landing that turned into multiple touch-and-go attempts. My mentor and another friend also tried to disengage the GPS amongst other control inputs with no luck. It finally aborted the landing and went straight into the largest tree in the woods. Not a whole lot of damage, except for the GPS ----I threw that as far as I could into the woods.
@chadcameron8969
@chadcameron8969 Жыл бұрын
Hold ur head high ur one of the best rc channels on KZbin
@greg0063
@greg0063 Жыл бұрын
Like said in the comments, looks like the rotor was running backwards or the gyro was correcting in the wrong direction. Usually you can tell when it spins up, but if there is good grip on the ground it might not be obvious until its airborne. A slower lift off might have revealed it a little earlier and might have saved it. Might! Dont be hard on yourself. Also next time pull the main rotor blades and run it up to make sure the tail is correcting properly. Don't sweat it, I've screwed this up with more than 1 heli and numerous tricopters (same concept). Now whoever gets this will double check.
@oldmandoingstuff8997
@oldmandoingstuff8997 Жыл бұрын
Mr an Mrs Nate, There are Several utubers flying this one last 90 Days. . Good case for Out of Box Bad one. Update us. If Your not Flying Nate your Not Crashing, . Good to see you Counting Your Blessings during Aftermath, Good Man.. Mrs. Abby is a blessing for sure!
@donnienorton7341
@donnienorton7341 Жыл бұрын
I hope you contact the company and they send you another one.i was so disappointed for you and it definitely was not your fault! Glad you both were safe.
@designamind
@designamind Жыл бұрын
Sorry to see the end result being a crash! would love to see the outcome. Don't believe this is your fault Take Care Martin UK subscriber
@davidpiper3652
@davidpiper3652 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the tail rotor brushless motor had the connections crossed and was running backwards, it would be very inefficient and sucking instead of blowing. Throttle up it would have had no tail control. Many other videos on KZbin show this helicopter flying really nicely. But you guys are safe, that's all that matters really.
@TheRcSaylors
@TheRcSaylors Жыл бұрын
That is extremely possible!! It acted like it basically had no tail rotor, so either that or a bad ESC for the tail rotor.. such a simple little thing can bring down such an awesome helicopter 😢⚓️
@dzydvl33
@dzydvl33 Жыл бұрын
Tail motor defiantly wired backwards. Watch at 2:49 when it starts you can see it is going backward. I guess RTF doesn't always mean RTF. Thank you for putting this out. If nothing else it serves as a reminder for all of us in the hobby that even if it is ready to fly we have to check them. I know that i would have done the same as you, and I have. Grab a new RTF, throw batteries in, Quick control check and GO. Thanks again for keeping it real, and God Bless You and your Family.
@sherwoodp2738
@sherwoodp2738 Жыл бұрын
Looks like no counter torque was applied or certainly not enough.
@n1978m
@n1978m Жыл бұрын
So I checked your video against others of this same V3 UH-1, and one thing is different. At 3:06 in your video, the heli jumps sideways a little bit, and the tail rotor sound/noise goes away. In other videos, the tail rotor sound is constant after that little jump, AND you can hear the constant RPM adjustments to the tail rotor as the controller/gyro hold the heli stable. Yours NEVER does that. So for some reason the tail rotor slowed down quite a bit below what it needed to be at.... It's like the controller wasn't sending the proper signal to the tail rotor ESC.
@nsbob70
@nsbob70 Жыл бұрын
What a BUMMER! Looked like a pretty decent looking model too.
@TheTootie52
@TheTootie52 Жыл бұрын
I thought it sounded "wongky" a second before it took off!! To me, the binding process seems more tedious than usual. I think you got a bad item!! But WOW...that was a GREAT crash!! Thanks Saylors for your HONESTY!! This one will become a CLASSIC video!! Sorta sorry about the helicopter. 💟👍😘
@jeffreystone7327
@jeffreystone7327 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I’ve been away for a while. This was a total shocker being my first video back. Thank the good Lord you were both safe from any injuries. I’m definitely not a seasoned Heli pilot, but have had a few in the air. Almost seems to me to have been a gyro or tail issue???? Never worry about other’s comments or opinions. All of those are their business. Onward and upward my friend. What a homecoming ❤. Next video please 😅 God bless.
@indroneswetrust1
@indroneswetrust1 Жыл бұрын
Your tail rotor was spinning the wrong direction. You have to have to make double sure with your tail rotor first before lift off. Cuz i seen that on many of helicopter crashes cuz of tail rotor was spinning wrong direction. I can see the trail prop is on correct, but the rotor is spinning wrong. The RPM speed went out of control when center rotor or tail rotor is spinning wrong way. I'm so glad you guys are okay though! I'm sorry about this helicopter 🚁
@kevinsoliday7405
@kevinsoliday7405 Жыл бұрын
The Viet Cong was hiding in the grass and shot it down.
@video80634
@video80634 Жыл бұрын
Sorry man. That's heartbreaking. My guess is something with the tail rotor. The tail rotor counters the torque spin of the main rotor. And when it spins like it did, especially right after it lifted, leads me to believe it was the tail rotor.
@MrMackAtack
@MrMackAtack Жыл бұрын
I hope to see take 2 of this video when the manufacturer sends you a replacement!
@glenwhatley7366
@glenwhatley7366 Жыл бұрын
Could this inspire a heli test stand build?
@f86tooth15
@f86tooth15 Жыл бұрын
Your tail rotor is spinning the wrong way, that is definitely the cause of the crash.
@f86tooth15
@f86tooth15 Жыл бұрын
@@Mikeylikesit1968 What's your reasoning behind that? From my analysis it's a heli with a clockwise spinning main rotor so it will produce anti-clockwise torque reaction. Therefore it needs a tail rotor which produces thrust towards the left (port) so it's pusuing air to the right creating clockwice rotation to cancel out torque reaction. The Tail rotor on this heli has a leading edge facing port if rotaing correctly, but it would be trailing edge in this case with the direction reversed as you see in this video (forward rotation) it produces thrust in the wrong direction enhancing torque reaction effect, making yaw rotaion very fast. I've referenced other videos of this heli and it looks like the tail rotor spins backwards in those videos which aligns with the theory and aerodynamic principles. If i'm wrong about this i'll eat my hat :)
@Mikeylikesit1968
@Mikeylikesit1968 Жыл бұрын
@@f86tooth15 eat your hat
@jacobingram147
@jacobingram147 Жыл бұрын
​@Mikeylikesit1968 ok but why is he wrong tho? If you don't know just be quiet
@judgehastheword9069
@judgehastheword9069 Жыл бұрын
The blade in the back was on the right way. Look at all the pictures the company posted an pictures that people who have bought it, its on the same way. That is why I said the company had to have the wired it wrong. On one picture it showed the blade on the right side an there is a nother picture it on the left side.
@GaelVeerasamy
@GaelVeerasamy Жыл бұрын
You are totally right. When watching in slow motion you can see the tail blade rotating the wrong way
@Saltysteele
@Saltysteele Жыл бұрын
that tail rotor isn't just there for looks. you need to start applying counter-rotational force before the skids even lose contact with the ground. whether it's a blade or a jet of air, you have to counter the rotational torque of the main blades and motor.
@ricardoventura6005
@ricardoventura6005 Жыл бұрын
It is very curious that the exact same thing happened with that helicopter on another rc channel, the advantage is that the other one fell on the grass and did not suffer as much damage; what this other youtuber did was reverse the propellers and the helicopter worked fine afterwards, regards.
@eosspektrum8654
@eosspektrum8654 Жыл бұрын
I'm no expert when it comes to "toy" helos, but the tail rotor was NOT working to counter the main rotor torque.
@iriquiosgunship
@iriquiosgunship Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to see that happened. I have one. I flew it a few times, no problem. Now, the esc is toasted. I'm waiting for a replacement part.
@jayi.6448
@jayi.6448 Жыл бұрын
Wowza... put that on the DO NOT BUY list. Thank you for the video as always!
@sunilkarki5738
@sunilkarki5738 10 ай бұрын
tail motor is reversed,main blade rotates clockwise causes fuselage rotate anticlockwise, to counter that tail has to push on the other side but the reverse motor caused the system to counteract .
@duncan649
@duncan649 10 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct with your diagnosis. The H1 flight controller is set up and calibrated via a PC download. It gives you the option to reverse the rudder servo to ensure the rudder is counteracting the main rotor. This should have been checked prior to flight, however it is not obvious to the untrained eye as with a fixed wing aircraft rudder.
@MRKCDQ
@MRKCDQ 8 ай бұрын
​@@duncan649 you need to write in the tittle that is your fault, who never crash something ??? and sometime very more expensive than 700
@duncan649
@duncan649 8 ай бұрын
@@MRKCDQ I'm having difficulty understanding you as your English is so poor. I think what you're trying to say is that my comment shows I'm smugly satisfied that he crashed, and that I'm so loftily superior that I never make mistakes myself. If you read my comment you'll realise that the opposite is true. I've crashed many times and made many mistakes and I always try to learn from those mistakes and listen to other opinions with an open mind. You may care to do the same.
@oned8305
@oned8305 Жыл бұрын
Just one question were the little plastic army ground troops anywhere in the vicinity there might have been a secret strike and took down your helicopter
@rsantiqueshop
@rsantiqueshop Жыл бұрын
Looks like tail rotor failure indeed.
@AL-RCjunkie
@AL-RCjunkie Жыл бұрын
Good thing there weren't any little plastic army men inside. 👍
@davidregan9872
@davidregan9872 Жыл бұрын
Rambo should of flown it!
@Hootman
@Hootman Жыл бұрын
Don't listen to 'em bro. Chit happens.... 👍
@BreatheRC
@BreatheRC Жыл бұрын
To be honest was surprised how calm you stayed ,and you handled it really well ,helicopters can be very very dangerous as you know would be interested to find out what caused it , didn't look like you did anything wrong at all . Thanks for the video 👍👍👍
@JustFlyIt09
@JustFlyIt09 Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, this is one of the reasons I quit flying helis...the occasional crash was usually painful in terms of damage and time to repair. It always reminded me of the sound of a cash register or ATM exploding🙂
@powderriver2424
@powderriver2424 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, that is absolutely true. Once many years I had my family at Disney World and every ride in the children's amusement area seemed to be broken or malfunctioning, but one thing remained operational with no mishaps was the cash registers.....😮
@jamesgeorge2852
@jamesgeorge2852 Жыл бұрын
I've heard of problems with the FW450 V1 Kevin Talbot had the same experience in his review
@lx2008max
@lx2008max Жыл бұрын
Hello, i was just the other day on rc motion site and was thinking about buying a flywing gps heli. Now i just came across ur vid. What exactly was the reason for the heli to crash rc saylors? Need to know before i decide to buy. Thnx!
@Strigon01
@Strigon01 Жыл бұрын
Having crash a few RC helis myself and repaired them. I had one crash that resulted with the tail striking first. I replaced the tail boom and main blades. I went to fly the heli after repairing it a few weeks later. When I powered up and started to take off, it started to go into a crazy spin like yours. Much like you, I throttle down and watch it land hard on the pavement breaking the landing rail. After going over what happened and reading other peoples experience with heli crashes. For my situation, it was the tail motor that was no longer able to keep up with the speed of the main rotors. Once the main rotors went up in speed, the tail motor was no longer able to keep the heli stable. Thus causing the heli to spin in the direction of the rotor blades direction. For me, I had to replace the tail motor and that solved my problem. So my guess is, you have a defective tail motor on your heli. If not, it could be the programming on the speed controller too that has caused your heli to fail from the start.
@garyvause2628
@garyvause2628 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the video of this helecopter by motion rc it may explain the reason why it was unflyable .
@skrub6969
@skrub6969 Жыл бұрын
Ok I can confirm your tail blade is spinning the wrong way, I played back your video in slow motion and can see the tail blade spin in the wrong direction. This means the wires on the tail motor are wrong, and this was most likely done at the factory. If anyone else watches this video please check your tail blade rotation before flight, it should spin CCW or spin up to the main blades looking from the right side of the helicopter.
@gadlevy9205
@gadlevy9205 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right! I carefully checked the direction of rotation of the tail rotor and it is spinning in the opposite direction than it should be!. This is the reason for the anti-clockwise rotation of the helicopter body .
@richiebricker
@richiebricker Жыл бұрын
If throttling down does nothing then the stop switch usually wont help. This used to happen with drones alot, even the expensive ones. I seen one of old autel evo kept going and the guy was afraid ( I woud too) to approach with the motors still going, so he waited 30 mins till the battery rqn out. Sometimes these things just go crazy
@joshandersons6914
@joshandersons6914 9 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss. . . nice scale heli, maybe it is good for display only. I'll wait for the next version V4 hopefully they fix these issues
@anthonysmith5979
@anthonysmith5979 Жыл бұрын
I've got one, havent had any problems, apart from the assembly of the tail boom, the electrical connection was upside down. Spent an hour fixing it.
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