Is the PlayStation Portal better now? ☁️

[@eRocKzah]

Portal is the dad-station when the tv gets hogged.. for that market it works really well.

[@benvarley2927]

That's why I wanna get one. 😅

[@kirkminnick5085]

thats y I got one and love it

[@larod92]

Yessir! My girls love playing a bunch of the games I have downloaded on the ps5 for them..sure, I can't really play cod on the portal, but at least it gives me an excuse to catch up on a bunch of single player games that I sworn to myself in as gona play. And now with the cloud beta, even better as I have a child account on the console for my kids, which give me the option to still sign into my account on the portal without causing a conflict

[@stevenesbitt3528]

Or when I have to kick my kids off the ps5

[@OregonChronic]

Yup 100%. Let them take the couch and tv. I’ll take the portal and my temperpedic

[@shayes.x]

Network engineer here, wanted to note some things: 1. It doesn't matter if you have the PS5 Pro with WiFi 7 if your access points don't support WiFi 7, or if they aren't configured correctly for WiFi 7. 2. WiFi 7 is very new and 99% of people won't have any noticeable benefits over WiFi 6, even if all hardware supports it. 3. You should ideally have the PS5 hardwired (GbE, avoid FE), which you did mention. 4. WiFi 5 should be sufficient if you have your PS5 hardwired, since obviously the Portal only supports WiFi 5. And you don't get any extra range out of the box with WiFi 6 or 7, that depends on radio hardware. 5. Channel width is very important in the case of wireless streaming. Too high can cause instability, too low can limit throughput. 6. In places where high speed internet is available (e.g., symmetrical gigabit fiber), and if you have a quality router, internet streaming from your own PS5 should be configurable to work just as well as Sony cloud streaming. Plus a lot more possible considerations I won't get into, but the point is, there's a lot of factors that will affect performance. (Disclaimer: I don't own a PS5 or PS Portal, and I personally think the PS Portal is not an ideal product in general.)

[@Merkantoine]

@@shayes.x the fact that phones can do the same thing without any issues on the same network should prove the point that it's a Sony specific problem and not wifi. I swear I'm going insane watching content creators talk about wifi 7 like it's some magical thing that's going to fix everything when most people still have their router in the basement in 2024 💀

[@Seirra54]

It’s the lack of wired connection from the PS5 to the router that’s the problem. My partner has a Portal and had pretty bad input lag when her PS5 was on WiFi, but it largely improved when we ran an Ethernet drop to the console. It’s still not perfect, but it’s not nearly as bad as it was.

[@conza1989]

What’s a good way to test optimizing channel width in your experience? I think I’m on auto 20/40/80Mhz is that the one?

[@TheIndulgers]

It is embarrassing that the psportal only support wifi 5. Probably why DF found AT BEST +80ms input latency on top of system latency. You would think they would have shipped it with wifi 6e or 6 at minimum.

[@Axiom-ug3js]

Well said

[@NANIanime]

JUST A NOTE : THE PS PLUS STREAMING JUST LIKE THE GAMEPASS STREAMING DOESN'T WORK IN SOME COUNTRIES, SO Y'ALL MIGHT CHECK IF IT'S AVAILABLE IN YOURS BEFORE GETTING EXCITED! 💬

[@Moli05]

it works as long as you have ps plus premium. obv it won't work with the deluxe variant

[@ThatDevilCookie]

Not entirely true, I can use streaming even when my country is not supported in any way

[@NANIanime]

@@Moli05 i meant if your country isn't supported it wouldn't work.

[@NANIanime]

@@ThatDevilCookie I guess it depends on where you live, for me I'm from the middle east and I can't use streaming at all even from back in the day with ps now if you remember that.

[@leticiasugianto6509]

I guess it depends on which account you are bought that ps premium from. My country is not listed as available, im just buying for portablity

[@tiffanymorgan8380]

I got my husband one when they released and we had a lot of trouble with it. It wouldn't connect and stay connected. Now with the update he's able to play it better and it seems to be staying connected.

[@DontLookAtMuh]

Say what you will but I’ve absolutely loved coming home tired from work and hopping in bed with the portal instead of sitting at my desk 🤷‍♂️ love this thing

[@JoeNokers]

I don't think the issue is what the portal can do, the issue is that your phone also does that, or even better a steam deck, which can stream from your playstation, or play titles locally. Obviously the steam deck costs some money, so you might argue its for those who cant afford a steam deck but you already own a phone and a ps5 controller. So this is really only for peole who can specifically afford a portal but not a steam deck and cant/don't access their ps5 very often. Its a niche market.

[@trelwilliams5003]

@@JoeNokersyeah I hate that people justify the portal by saying “well I like it”. You can do the exact same thing from your phone and that’s where they took the idea from. Finally having cloud gaming is cool but it’s not what people assumed was coming out.

[@seasonphan]

L take

[@TheOnlyEricDay1]

Just got the 30th anniversary edition portal. I have remote played from outside my home with my steam deck Mac and iPad and the lag is noticeably better on the portal than any other device. At home I can comfortably play BO6 with hardly any lag.

[@idehogo3969]

Ur phone can do the same thing lol

[@akg7873]

A few things to note. You don’t need to hard wire it directly to the modem/router. I have my ps5 in the basement and my modem on the first floor of my house. I used a power line adapter (fairly cheap on Amazon maybe 30$). I tested it and it’s pretty much as good as hard wiring it in terms of speeds and in terms of experience I’ve had 0 to minimal lag or stutter etc. Mind you I don’t play for several hours a day though I don’t have time For me, the portal is way better than playing on a phone using a separate controller. It’s not even close in terms of convenience and the size of the screen and ergonomics on holding it in your hand. It’s just not close. I can see how it’s not for everyone especially given the price it’s not cheap. But with the addition of cloud gaming it’s pretty good for me and I don’t care to use my phone for remote play ever draining its battery. The portal battery is insane.

[@alanmacdee]

The addition of cloud streaming in the portal is an absolute game changer for me. I have great internet and WiFi, and this worked flawlessly for me. I noticed no lag and, as a father of 3 kids, I don’t have access to my PS5 most days. I ridiculed this device when it was first announced, but I was won over.

[@DrinkBeers]

I was just about to give up on it & sell it… I’m happy I didn’t

[@bland9876]

I still think a Steam Deck or ROG Ally are better.

[@alanmacdee]

@ of course they are… but the cheapest Steam Deck starts at double the price so I’m not sure there is a direct comparison. The portal is literally an accessory and not a standalone. It’s only really good if you already have a library of PS5 games and a PS Plus subscription

[@bsexboy]

​@bland9876 i have a steamdeck at home with wifi or work with wifi the steam deck dont play games as good as the portal and the way it looks..... im playing right now i havent touched my steam deck since this update, i use them for diffrent reasons... but if m honest im playing full ps5 games on this and it feels better then the deck

[@felixlechat1780]

Games sucks don’t expect much

[@amkrishnan8732]

0:23 important to note that remote playing on your phone with a Dualsense doesn't allow you to benefit from Dualsense features like haptic feedback. But with the Portal you do get those features. So i disagree - the Portal is a better overall experience

[@TidyCrayfish764]

The difference is the portal costs way more than just using the phone you already own

[@kevinb4713]

I would buy a Portal right now if they would just allow a direct-to-ps5 connection like how it worked on PS4 with the Vita. I used to play the PS4 all the time using my Vita when my girlfriend was watching something I didn't like and it worked great for me as long as I was within 20-ish feet of the PS4 with the Vita. And neither of those systems had better WiFi than the PS5 and Portal I'm sure

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

The connection isn't the source of the Portal's problems unfortunately

[@kevinb4713]

@mechanicalmonk2020 Then what is? Because it's a huge part of the problems in EVERY review I've seen. You can't tell me if they(Sony) allowed direct system connection the Portals remote play wouldn't be better. I mean the hardware inside has to be better than what was in the Vita and it supported, and succeeded at, direct-to-PS4 connection for remote playing.

[@KillerCEOZ]

If someone streams a lot or wants to play their PS5 games on the go it is really a good piece of equipment and so much better than on a phone because it's so much more comfortable and has a much bigger screen. So for just 220 you have all you need.

[@AznMikey]

I suggest getting the Retroid Pocket 5 at that point cuz it'll stream it better and has a better screen and processor. I'm saying this cuz I own a Portal and never use it rather use my Odin 2 or Ally since its better connection.

[@nitind]

​@@AznMikey "Bigger screen" they said.

[@Gliiitchy]

I just returned mine. Every 10 minutes it would disconnect from my PS5. Looked it up online and it seems to be a common problem. Everyone says it's not a portal issue but Wi-Fi issue. Yet I have a super expensive third-party router and fiber. I have ZERO issues with anything else I own. The portal is the only thing that has issues. I tried all the suggested fixes. Yet every 10 minutes, portal would freeze and then 1 minute later it would say it lost connection to the PS5. I'll just stick with my Steam Deck and use my iPad+Dual Sense combo to remote play my PS5.

[@bonjourbraxton]

Was that even after the 4.0 update?

[@Gliiitchy]

@ yes, I bought it almost a week ago now and updated to the newest update and it just kept dropping almost 10mins on the dot every time I used it. None of the online solutions I found worked so sadly I took it back. I thought it was a nice device but couldn’t deal with that issue.

[@SharkeyStormcrow]

Just got a PSPortal. Using Google Fiber and the router is downstairs. Has worked like a charm and I love using it. Took it to another house to try their WiFi and use it out of the house. Worked perfect there too.

[@laughyourashevilleoff2546]

It is likely because I have my PS5 hardwired, but my experience has been really solid with the Portal over the last week since I got mine. I didn't even get it for the cloud streaming, although I have tried that and found the connection to be lacking compared to streaming from my PS5. I do lose a frame here or there, but it is consistent enough for me to play a round of Fortnite or a level or two of Astro Bot. It was also perfect for lounging around yesterday and checking out all the content in Tetris Forever.

[@mahiroid7479]

just the comment i was looking for . still in the middle of watching the video . But he isnt talking about ethernet cable connection to the ps5 yet . mine is and it is rock solid . and for casual single player games that dont need quick timing or response i rock it every day . runs smoothly and i can bare the "input lag" on a chill single player game

[@sharky255]

I really wish the PlayStation portal acted like a Wii U when you’re under the same roof and it just connects to the PlayStation directly instead of trying to jump through Wi-Fi I feel like that would solve a lot of the latency problems

[@guilhermerovida5488]

To me, the Portal was a great investment. As a married man who shares couch time with the wife, It definitely allowed me to play my PS5 a lot more. Before the portal, i would mostly stick with the Switch. I love the PSPortal! Also, i was able to get the 30th Anniversary edition! Now i have 2 lol

[@noire1991]

I don’t think you are dumb for saying those things because they incredibly valid points. But for a person like me that doesn’t even notice the tiny lag it has been great! I’ve played silent hill 2 remake on it and I can only play in bed after the kids go to bed.

[@ancientflames]

It’s not lag. It’s the latency and compression that make it gross to use.

[@Goldcastle2]

I had to hardwire in my PS5 but then the portal became my favorite way to play video games for the exact same reason

[@johnbowen7314]

The biggest deal with the 4.00 update, and my major beef previously with the Portal, is the fixed microstutter. Apparently remote play outputs at 59.75hz, and the portal screen 60hz. This update corrects that discrepancy and panning and lateral movement is now overwhelmingly smooth, to the point where the odd hitch doesn’t really bother me. I’d say for £200, if you have a decent library of games or subscribe to PS+, a decent WI-FI setup, then the Portal is a good device.

[@RyotoCZ]

There is actually about 200 games, and they are adding few more every few days. Eventually, they want to add more and probably also PS4/PS3 games with ability to purchase games and stream them. And as for me... I dont have PS5. I do have Xbox as my main console and Switch. But after this update I went and got Portal and from my experience, its pretty good. Its like Switch lite, but its PS5 with its own selection of games. I would recommend it. Its neat device and works good for me, and I think that they did bolster sales with this update.

[@greenchile6554]

Beta right now too. I want the Vita store opened on the Portal so I can play my old games and buy some new ones. Won't happen, but I can dream.

[@NikoBellicisback]

Chiaki ,the newest one, is amazing I use it all the time and even used it during my holiday with hotel WiFi. I didn’t hardwire my ps5, have 1gbps fiber optics internet at home and the ps5 is only 2 meters away from the router.

[@notesscrotes4360]

I struggled setting Chiaki up on my Steam Deck for ages, and didn't figure it out until the day my PlayStation Portal arrived. 😅 I'd recommend it for anyone with a Steam Deck, especially the OLED ones, since the Portal doesn't do HDR. It's way wonkier, but I don't think $200 is worth that convenience.

[@DigitalVersionOfMe]

@@notesscrotes4360when you hdmi on lc3 and I turn off the tv why does it disconnect form chiaki?

[@MaggoSheesh]

I use in home streaming with my Steam Deck and it works very well!

[@DeaconClash5000]

I have a Portal, and I do like it, but my particular situation is very specific. I work a lot and when I get home and have a little bit of time to game, I want to do it while laying in bed. The Portal allows me to do that. That’s it. That’s the whole reason I got it and the whole reason I like it. I also bought it for $100 from a guy who won it in a contest, so I got it at 50% off. Is it good enough to warrant a $200 purchase for most people? Probably not.

[@leonardonieves2370]

Works great for me. My tv is always tied up and I don't wanna use my phone. The wifi connection has been pretty good. I took it to a hospital while my loved one had surgery and it worked great on the public wifi. Played and beat astros playroom with no issues.

[@thedualitysystem]

Why do I only see blank pfp's saying it works fine?

[@EnyoTaiz]

@@thedualitysystembecause almost nobody cares or knows how to change KZbin profile pics dummy.

[@dannonyogurt98]

Really, not a single issue? No lag or stuttering on public wifi... Yeah ok. Then you need to pack and ship that bad boy back to Sony because that's one hell of an anomaly.

[@leonardonieves2370]

I don't know I just don't feel like updating a picture on profile. I use KZbin pretty casually ​@@thedualitysystem

[@leonardonieves2370]

​@@dannonyogurt98didn't work when I try to use my phone as a hotspot. At work we have a pretty tied up Network and I was able to use that to play Hades.

[@Fribee83]

Perfect timing! I have no idea what I want for Christmas because I can buy anything I actually want. Figured a Portal would be a good "might as well" but I'm stuck with Comcast where my upload is 5mb on a good day and I'm not gonna pay money to stream from their library.

[@BlackMagicFools]

As a dad, the Portal is PERFECT for me when sharing the big TV with everyone at home. I tried the PS5 remote play via my iPhone15 Pro Max attached to my PS5 controller but the Ergonomics are terrible… did not like the experience. The Portal is light and a perfect screen that simulates a 65” screen for me on the distance I have my regular TV. I hardwire my PS5 and get very stable connection to my Portal. I assume Sweden in general av very good internet so I hardly ever have issues with my gaming experience. The two things I didn’t like on the Portal was Bluetooth and to lower the lowest volume when not using wired headphones. And the last one they fixed with latest update. It’s great for my needs 👍🏻

[@mohamadelwafai9648]

Just bought mine 2 days ago, also in Sweden. Loving mine! Question, I keep on reading about setting a specific channel in the router or something like that, any idea on how to do this?

[@smith22vikes90]

It is great for this use case and I’m glad you’re enjoying it. I am still not a fan of the device because you can buy a controller with great ergonomics to attach to your phone for less than $100. With this you wouldn’t just be limited to the PS5 either. Xbox cloud gaming, PS remote play, Xbox remote play, whatever games you can get on your phone. I personally use it to remote play my pc with an app called sunshine and it’s fantastic. PS portal is for those who really only play PS5 and feel they want/need a device that is exactly a ps5 controller

[@BlackMagicFools]

@@mohamadelwafai9648 Tjena tjena! :) Are you referring to this setup/settings in the PS5 options so it will allow to be woken up both via your own home wifi AND if you want to play away from home maybe? There is a setting in there that is recommended to activate to also use it outside of your home from other networks. I don't remember exaclty where it was, but should be simple to do a quick google on! Recommended! And, hardwire it to your router is also recommended. Been playing "Darksiders" for many hours today, works soooo good while my wife watches movies and my son plays Fortnite there :D

[@pokyspy]

I just got a ps portal, and I am hyped it is so good, and the streaming is soooooooooooo smooth I love it

[@leticiasugianto6509]

Im so stoked of getting this. Competing tv with my wife and kids all the time, my ps5 has been on for a year. Tried it with wired connection on my phone it works just fine

[@dancitydancestudios]

My experience with the portal has been amazing. All over the house, at work wifi, hot spot everything worked perfectly. Amazing device

[@BeHempy]

Yeah until you try on an actual good device like steam deck or GCloud. Then you realize the the Portals streaming ability is kinda mid. Decent for sure, but not on par with other options.

[@dancitydancestudios]

@BeHempy I haven't tried the other devices but having a controller this comfortable on portal and ps5, streaming with no issues from literally everywhere and playing games I want beginning to end with seamless transition between both is amazing to me

[@M4rt1n.C]

So do you still have to turn on ur ps5?

[@watskeburten]

I love my Portal. It’s a thing about having something that works well. Sure, you could spend more and get more, but why would you when you’re content with what you have?

[@dancitydancestudios]

@watskeburten completely agree

[@jdarg4163]

I actually love the PlayStation Portal i got mine today and it runs much better tham remote play and I have been playing GTA 5 with no slow down it plays almost like a native PlayStation 5 game and it was also running from the cloud this device is amazing

[@boborambow]

Streaming to the Steam Deck using Chiaki has an advantage over all other streaming devices as far as I can tell. You can enable HDR while streaming. So streaming looks insanely good on my Steam Deck. Also the Steam Deck OLED WiFi is much improved. I get no dropped frames or stuttering at all. My PS5 is hardwired though. The only issues I have are slight input lag, I can definitely tell but it’s really not that bad. The other thing is about 5 minutes in to my session, it will just fail to connect to the ps5. I have to close Chiaki and reopen and then I can stream for hours without issues. It is strange that it will do this ever single time. It also does this with moonlight though, so I think it is something with the Steam Deck. So my guess, the ps portal just needs better hardware. Definitely needs a better WiFi chip. But it also may need a better CPU to increase bit rate. Cranking it on the Steam Deck makes it extremely stable.

[@RKramer105]

Just started using Chiaki and it's baffling how a community tool works better than Sony's dedicated service.

[@VilasNil]

I've had the opposite happen to me. Chiaki on my OG Steam Deck works god awful, most of the time audio breaks and many times even video stops working. Which is why I decided to cough up the money for the PS Portal and it has been working great, managed to beat all of Astro Bot on it.

[@boborambow]

@@VilasNil I never tried it on my lcd steam deck before I upgraded to the oled. I read that the oled has a much better WiFi chip. So maybe that is a big part of it. I would get the portal too if I had problems. I play my PS5 so much via remote play.

[@NikoBellicisback]

Chiaki the newest one is amazing I use it all the time even used it during my holiday with hotel WiFi. I didn’t hardwire it but have 1gbps fiber optics internet at home and the ps5 is only 2 meters away from the router.

[@RKramer105]

@@VilasNil Hmm interesting I literally just got the newest version (chiaki-ng). Have you tried it recently?

[@Mago-gq4xt]

This video could've been so much better if you actually tested the hardwire connection and mentionned your specific router. like an actual case study

[@MKGamingByMunish]

Great video and I might wait just a bit longer to grab my portal. Maybe around summer gamefest…

[@Spikemouth]

As a parent of two kids under the age of 5, the Portal has been great to get some quick sessions in. I was against the Portal at first, but I received it as a Christmas gift last year and it’s been great to tackle some of my PlayStation backlog while around the house. It does exactly what I need it to do and have not been disappointed with it. I’m an engineer with a background in networking and other areas so my house is properly set up with multiple hardwired PS5s and multiple access points around the house to provide a stable network connection at all times. Anything above WiFi 5 for the Portal would be irrelevant since it wouldn’t be able to effectively use that additional speeds anyway. I’ve had 0 connectivity issues during my year of using the Portal and it’s accomplished everything I’ve wanted it to do. However, this is still my third most used handheld at the moment, with the Steam Deck being in first, and Switch at second.

[@zacharycpalmer]

My PS5 is hardwired. 100Mbps download 50Mbps upload and I still disconnected from my console about every 30min. I tried all the fixes I’ve seen online and the problem still persists. It’s not a deal breaker because I value being able to play while my wife watches tv or plays her own stuff but it’s still very annoying and I know I’m not alone in having this problem. It’s a quality product but I have a hard time recommending it due to my experience so far.

[@SomethingNowhereMan]

I hope the portal gets another update. My ideal idea for an update is to have it be like a PS5 without being an option for ‘remote play’ function. Meaning you don’t need to have the PS5 either on or rest mode when you access the portal. That way you can play any games on the portal wherever you go. I have games bought both digital & physical. The digital games are okay for me since I can play them, but if they somehow figure out a way to continue to play physical game copy on the PS portal without having remote play on will be impressive to me, but I know for a fact that it’s not even possible. That being said, I’ve gotten the portal very recently for christmas and it does have flaws. Internet connection mostly. Even when I get near the net router and it still get’s a connection problem. Just hope another beneficial update for the portal will come around.

[@x_Rasputin_x]

I've never had a problem with mine since day one, but I'm in the UK and all the issues I saw and read about were in the U.S, so maybe the Americans have an overall issue with their WiFi? Oh and I've never used a hard connection and played it everywhere with no lag.... definitely an issue in the U.S

[@Rainoffire]

It is weird, but remote play is pretty bad on my phone, but is completely fine on my Portal. I never planned on getting a portal, but got one as a gift. Honestly it is been great using it, especially when my roommates are on the TV. Surprisingly, it has been good even when I remote in at work. Helldivers, FF7 and FF16 are fully playable even when I am miles away from my console.

[@joehendrson3815]

The portal was from day 1 as a very specific the for a very specific person like for me if a football game was on i can play the ps5 and watch the game yes I can use my phone and go blind trying to see things the portal is going to get better I think and I also think they will give us better games

[@javiersarmiento9709]

If buying this thing will break your bank then it’s probably not worth it but if you can afford the $200 bucks, it’s definitely worth it.

[@AznMikey]

Retroid Pocket 5 is better at the same price.

[@nosouponhead]

🤨 If someone doesn't have enough in the bank to afford $200, they're doing something very wrong.

[@yuricaptinprice3917]

​@AznMikey But i dont want to play emulated games. Youre talking about a product that has a different targeted audience compared to the PS Portal.

[@instastoump]

bought my portal 2 weeks ago. i have my ps5 a level above the router as im getting wifi connection from uncle who lives in the apartment downstairs and also we live in Greece which internet sucks in general compared to the rest of EU. So far my experience is really good and also today i tried both cloud and remote play in a friend's house and it was just fine tbf.

[@Double0Dann]

I would recommend being on a LAN connection constantly for your ps5 to have a solid connection to your portal.

[@CasualViewer-t4f]

Had overall a great experience with the PS Portal, except the lack of BT support for wireless headphones. My set up is deco mesh WiFi with Ethernet back haul. PS5 is wired into my mesh router which is wired to my modem. The only thing I noticed was the micro frame skip which appears to be fixed with the latest update. I play mainly single player action games and occasionally some NHL for context.

[@Wolfbecomehuman]

1:48 out of pocket Bob

[@BetaCypher]

Finally 😂

[@henryj5054]

Your dog in the surfshark promo is so funny. Just wanted to let you know that we appreciate the effort you put in

[@MichaelMineCraftings]

Playstation had Cloud Streaming before during the Vita era called "PS Now" which was discontinued fast due to the Vita not being popular enough I wonder what will happen this time....

[@tylere3782]

I said when the portal came out that it's a very situational thing. I have gotten WAY more use out of my PlayStation because of it when the TV is being used. That being said, I have had my fair share of frustrations trying to play some games on it because of lag or signal drop, but overall it's been really useful. The cloud streaming is a HUGE upgrade for me personally, but also I can completely understand how it's not a thing for everyone.

[@Nate-zz7zc]

0:41 I've heard you say emphatically on your stream that this camera is at the right aspect ratio when people call it out as stretched, but it's definitely stretched, anyone who hasn't watched a lot can see that. I even corrected it myself in Photoshop to 16:9 just to know I wasn't crazy.

[@sepulvjl]

Can u stream classic titles? Like the OG God of War trilogy and the GOW prequels???

[@leeclark5965]

I’ve had mine day one and love it only problem I had was connecting it to my ps5 for the first time since then it works flawlessly and now I’ve got the PS5 pro it works even better no problems I take it everywhere I go no connection problems including in hotels connect straight to my PS5 pro and I’m playing games within matter of minutes depending on that hotel Wi-Fi, but I always pay for the best Wi-Fi in the hotel anyway so if you use the public Wi-Fi in a hotel, yeah you probably will have problems, but that’s not down to the portal that’s down to the hotel Wi-Fi

[@jmacosta]

Tip: As long as your account is an American account (or based on any of the supported countries), this update will work/be available for you. The problem, however, is that it barely works with just about any wifi. Mine is WiFi six and it doesn't work even when sitting right in front of the console and router. So yeah, good luck getting it to work optimally.

[@Thornskade]

The frame skipping can't be fixed even with good wifi as far as I know. The PS5 internally sends 60 fps but for some reason the display on the Portal is mismatched, with 59 Hz or something like that, which is what causes frame skips under even the best conditions

[@ootje7076]

The PS5 pro WiFi 7 support only helps on an access point/router with WiFi 7 support.

[@lanakane7325]

Portal owner here, I like it. It’s not a separate game system, it allows you to play your existing system remotely. I have a medical condition that sometimes has me stuck in bed all day. I even considered buying another system for my bedroom. The Portal was a godsend. It allowed me to entertain myself with games I’d already purchased. Honestly, I’m not playing taxing AAA games when sick or sleepy, so I don’t struggle with lag. Buy what works for your life. Peace.

[@Thornskade]

The point isn't that the Portal has no use case, but that there are many other devices that do it better for better value

[@lanakane7325]

@ Maybe, maybe not. I just think that it is an accessory for a niche market. Those in that market love it and aren’t looking for it to change. The other options were always available, so there’s no point in all this negativity and constant raging that this one thing isn’t like other things.

[@WillToNihilsm]

The Odin 2 does that via psplay and runs emulators to play everything up to Nintendo switch and it's $300

[@mikeyboombox]

I held out on this and was very skeptical. When they opened preorders for the 30th anniversary stuff while buying the controller I decided to go for it. The first night was laggy and button presses were spotty. The next night I hard wired my ps5 on the opposite side of the house and put my portal on the second router and it’s been a really great experience. I do agree the price is a bit too high $150 feels like a fair price

[@dazzlelynn9953]

I have my ps5 in my room and when I want to be around the family in the living room I use the portal. It’s very convenient to just pick it up and play because I leave it in the living room. I can use my phone but it’s annoying to carry a dual sense around and hooking it on and off to Bluetooth to my phone. I also want to use my phone at the same time. I’m playing a lot of single player games because I do notice the input lag on fast paced multiplayer games. I’m getting through my backlog of games like unicorn overlord.

[@JGRICH61]

So I’m now playing Skyrim Anniversary edition for the ‘cough’ , very first time! And I finally think I have a use case for a PS portal.

[@Aspiration321]

I just watched your original video yesterday so perfect timing!

[@soulman3729]

that 6:52 lag test is the attention to detail i FW

[@carlosmonge7679]

I simply don’t understand the hate the portal gets, I haven’t had any issues whatsoever and to be fully transparent, I obviously prefer to play on my tv, however, I have a 1 year old kid, that I need to watch for hours and it’s just wonderful to get in his playpen and to be able to play ps5 games away from my tv whilst I take care of my kid. Remote play and the portal were designed for a niche group of gamers, it’s clearly not for everyone, so even though I try to understand where the complaints come from

[@beazdakid1988]

I had my since Christmas and no issues at all With steaming man I love this thing. I use it at work ok my iPads hotspot. And it’s fine 95% of the time

[@piplup10203854]

Thank you for revisiting this because I was curious. I saw that 30th anniversary release and admit it makes the portal look a lot better but I don’t own a PS5 yet and still don’t quiet get where it fits into PlayStation’s vision. I love my steam deck but admittedly don’t use it much handheld anymore as I do docked. I do enjoy it on the couch for my first play though on hollow knight 😊 very fun so far I like the little grubs I think they’re called they’re cute and my niece got a plushie that makes the in game sound. Anyway, I don’t know what I’d use a Portal for even if I had a PS5 today as I’d be more of a couch gamer. I do like the idea of a docked setup for my office space to take between the rooms of the house but I can’t think of much else 🤔 it’s neat though but too expensive for my needs. I got a refurbished steam deck to save cost 😊 so the portal and PS5 is an investment for me. Edit: ooh 😯 saw the price was $199 that’s better 🤔 but I’m still not sure where it fits into the whole PlayStation ecosystem and cloud streaming but it looks good 😊

[@RobertMcClure]

I've tried the remote play on my phone with the PlayStation backbone and at times it looks like dog water. But I got the PlayStation portal for about 3 weeks and I have loved every minute of using it. I use it at home on a hotel Wi-Fi on my hotspot with my phone and it works just fine and I love the device.

[@juancarlosalonso5664]

Love my portal, it allows me to play whenever the big TV is taken, and in my house that’s basically 24/7.

[@jcchaconjr]

So I finally got a Portal (the 30th Anniversary model), and… I have yet to get it to connect to my PS5 - yes, it’s on Ethernet, yes it has a fixed IP, and yes, my WiFi is good - the Portal turns on the PS5 out of standby, but that’s it. I’ve tried Port Forwarding, the “Airplane mode” trick, phone tethering - nothing. I’m at wit’s end here. What’s even more frustrating is that I can connect fine from my PC using PS Remote Play (which is on the 2nd floor of my house), and I can’t even connect with the Portal when I’m sitting 10 feet away from my router. The kicker? I also paid the pro-rated price to upgrade to Premium, and low and behold, I can play cloud games no problem. Ugh…

[@jeaz]

Like many say, it’s a great ”Dad” option. Even better now with PS Plus streaming. Got mine on day one and while the experience was good enough for me from the start, it’s surely nice to see how it’s been improved over the year. I’ve played hundreds of hours on it, even remote connecting outside my home with (to me) no noticeable delays. Even sold my Switch as I just didn’t use it any more with the Portal around. One concern that the server streaming solves is that I’ve had the PS5 crash once or twice while away from home. With server streaming I don’t have to worry about that. I guess we’ll see what the future brings but wording at the PS Blog hints at both more games added or even games you’ve bought from the PS Store, so fingers crossed.

[@mrmr3963]

Biggest issue I have with any of these videos on the portal is it's always compared to handheld PCs that cost more. I don't play PC. Most other devices that are just designed to stream cost more than the portal, and if they are cheaper they're not that great at streaming or have really crappy ergonomics compared to the portal. It's also basically turn on and play. I'm not buying a $250-$900 dollar handheld just to stream PlayStation. That argument will never make sense to me 😂

[@GarydeBrown]

Bob - Try plugging the PS5 Pro/console **directly into the modem** - Not the *router* but the actual modem itself. That will eliminate your issues. Please try this.

[@BaldBadger]

I love it for when I travel. I have a Legion Go. But sometimes it's nice to just have a lite, small $200 device to throw in the suitcase and not worry. Traveling with a $800 hand-held pc can be stressful sometimes. Or if the kid wants to play fortnight when me and the wife are watching TV. For $200 I can't complain.

[@gaor]

Still the best US youtuber when it comes to telling the truth. I sent back my second PS Portal after giving it another chance with firmware 4.0: the input lag is still unbearable (for me). And my PS5 is wired to an 8 Gbps connection (yes, you read right, even though the PS5 only supports 1 Gbps :). I think that the choice of Wi-Fi 5 on this device is heresy.

[@notesscrotes4360]

The PS5's shitty AMD encoder might be a bigger issue than the Wifi.

[@dungo5337]

Is your Portal connected to a 5GHz network? If your PS5 is actually hardwired (make sure that it really is using Ethernet instead of Wifi) and your Portal is connected to a 5GHz network with acceptable signal strength. Then it will definitely work great

[@gaor]

@@dungo5337 In fact, my router automatically selects the frequency (2.4 or 5 Ghz). So I don't know exactly which frequency is preferred for the PS Portal. I'd have to dissociate the two bands to make sure I only connect to 5 Ghz, but if I do that and move too far away from my router, performance won't necessarily be good either (5 Ghz being better... as long as you're not too far from the access point). Anyway, I know I have a very low tolerance for lag in general. But even if this issue were resolved, we'd still have to solve the compression problems. When I tested Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered on Portal and it started snowing in-game, the compression suffered a lot and the image was terrible. Even Netflix would have a hard time with that! Note that the experience is much better on Portal than on a phone with a DualSense, even on Wi-Fi 6. It really sucked on my smartphone.

[@jamiejean6020]

I dont have my PS5 hardwired, dont have my console in the same room either and play away from home daily with my portal no lag at all. It takes a minute or two to log into my console but once I am logged in, my experience has been great, currently playing Cyberpunk w no issues. The Portal has been very reliable.

[@thedroneguytoronto]

Been at the airport terminal playing Spiderman and lawn mower simulator for hours being delayed is great, cloud streaming works great

[@mytubechanneI]

To play your own games via cloud would be it. Whoever does that first wins

[@DanaSciandra]

Xbox Game Pass just did. It's somewhat limited. You can't play every game you own, but I can play the ones I want (i.e., Star Wars Outlaws, Space Marine 2, Balder's Gate 3, etc.).

[@cedarstuff]

I sit next to my router. WiFi keeps micro-dropping. It sucks.

[@MrCesarthegreat]

I am constantly on the move, utilizing hotel wifi to indulge in my favorite pastime of playing classic PlayStation games on the fly. However, the small screen of my phone hinders my gaming experience, which is why the portal with its larger screen size is a game-changer. I predict a PlayStation portal pro will be released within the next year, or so catering to the needs of casual gamers like myself.

[@Mgkamiolo]

"Never connect from outside your home network" - I can say from my testing (ethernet connected PS5 Pro playing metaphor Refantazio) that you can play games with no issues. Since I play slower RPG/turn based games I have not run into the issues you face. However playing games like Tekken 8 with faster input did lead to some slight lag but not too much. Also although I could stream from my steam deck there has been issues with it recently and on top of that the haptics on the ps portal feel much better.

[@MrMasze]

I’ve got a tip for those who experience disconnection issues every ten minutes when streaming from the console: set up a guest network for the Portal exclusively. It resolved all problems I had with the device! Also, streaming directly from servers works really nicely. 🎉

[@HEARD201]

It’s amazing. Even outside my house. Not sure what your set up is but I barely get any latency and I’m in FL while my PlayStation is in NY.

[@nutmeg9593]

Sometimes my back is killing me too much to chill in my cozy chair with the ps5. I would be able to use the ps5 more handheld. It seems to work on my phone just fine. Gotta test it on the iPad. ❤

[@petermcguire4769]

Thank you for showing some Astro Bot footage. It reminded me that I need to pick up another copy of Super Mario Odyssey while it's on sale for Black Friday.

[@charlesparson318]

I’ve had no issues using the portal connected to my ps5 or streaming. No input lag or anything.

[@RKramer105]

As an owner of one: the major pros for me is the hardware/form-factor as in I LOVE the 8" screen I think it's my new sweet-spot for a portable and of course having a dualsense attached is also great. Cons are even with my PS5 hardwired and the portal on good 5GHz connection it's still worse lag/latency than Moonlight or even Chiaki so Sony still has some optimization to do and why it only has wifi5 for a dedicated streamer is still anybody's guess. One of those little baffling sony decisions like no disk drive on the PS5Pro or proprietary memcards in the Vita.

[@bruthamann5697]

It did exactly what the Sony Website said it was suppose to do- mirror your PS5 console. That's it. No more. Any new update it gets now is a bonus.

[@lovepets8495]

Never had a problem steaming to my portal from my ps5. I'm unable to cable the P5 as its nowhere near my router. My router is in the lounge and my PS5 is in the loft room. I have only experienced a good connection, lucky me 😊 Looking forward to testing the steaming capabilities, thanks for the video and personal experiences 👍

[@Ty_7]

did u try turning off vrr, hdr, allm and setting the display out to 1080p before remoting from portal. I say this because I had a lot of issues at first and this actually helped it alot. It is a massive pain in the ass and I still sometimes do it if I have issues and restarting router doesnt' fix it. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact the ps5 is still sending a 4k signal to tv at same time which u can tell just by turning on ur tv. Maybe its more taxing or not converted/scaled somehow, but it seemed to help with mine. I feel like this is somethnig that shouldn't affect, but it is what it is.

[@MiguelRodriguez-fm1il]

HEY!! just putting it out but if your using your phone or tablet and attach your dual sense controller via type c to type c I heard you get the haptic feedback back you'd be typically missing out on if you Bluetooth duel sense to your phone

[@tfeatherstone]

For a similar price you could pick up a Logitech G Cloud which not only streams PS5, but also Xbox GamePass and PC. Not to mention Andoid gaming and emulation - the form factor makes it amazing for PSP.

[@JimmyJamesaustin]

It’s again a very neat concept idea I still love it Still having issues with the lag and latency issues even on 4.0.1 update

[@ToxicCabba]

Use a wired connection. Played it for 4 hours straight online with a friend (was playing sparking zero) with almost no lag was seamless as hell.

[@Rx7speeddemons]

I play it as remote play from work and it works perfectly and now with streaming it's even better

[@Rx7speeddemons]

I work almost 50 miles away from my house... and haven't experienced a single issue streaming or remote play... fix your setup... it's not the portal at fault

[@TheFinalIllusion]

I’m pretty sure 2.4 and 5 ghz are different frequencies. Think of it like a radio, most devices use 5ghz frequency band so 2.4ghz has less noice. That statement would be opposite 10 years ago when household phones were commonly on 2.4ghz

[@ShaunaMorgan]

As a successful video game content creator, you have a lot more options than the average person. So though I don't think you're "dumb," I don't think you objectively see it from the perspective of the average person. The Portal is $200. I paid half that for the backbone alone, that is not as comfortable in the hands, doesn't have the haptics/triggers of a DualSense or a rather pleasant 8" screen included in that price. So from a value proposition, I think the price of the Portal is rather compelling from that perspective. If I wasn't already grandfathered into Premium until 2029, from all my years of hoarding cd keys sales and lucky to have purchased a discounted PlayStation Now subscription during Sony's days of play before they moved to tiers, I would still be able to swing $18 a month, if there is something on the service I want to play. It's what I've been doing with Gamepass Ultimate, and that's $20 a month. Objectively, no other device would give you access to the PlayStation ecosystem at the Portal's price point for those interested.

[@johnf.r6658]

And the argument "just use your phone" well your going to be changing that thing every year, otherwise your battery would be so dead ... Having a dedicated device for remote play is so much better

[@JubalVoid]

The backbone also gave you access to Xbox streaming, PC streaming, emulation, and Android games. The value issue with the portal is its lack of versatility, if you only play games on your PS5 then I can see the argument for it, but if you do anything else then other devices will make more sense, even considering price. For $80 more than the Portal a base Odin 2 will support any remote streaming option, emulate pretty much everything except the newest systems, and will chew through heavy Android games like genshin and call of duty. The only thing you lose as of this new update is ps plus streaming.

[@dungo5337]

​@@JubalVoidAs a proud owner of an Odin 2, the screen is tiny for streaming modern games though. It's a beast for emulating older games. But playing modern games on a 6in screen is torture

[@ancientflames]

A ps4 is like $90 on eBay. So is a ps3. Would rather have two real consoles than stream stuff I don’t own with latency and artifacts.

[@troigrl]

@@ancientflamesreally, you would have 2 big clunky systems plugged in.

[@GrabEmByTheJoystick]

I have Spectrum WiFi in NYC and cloud streaming on my PS Portal has been incredible. It feels like I’m playing the game natively. I was 20+ feet away from my router and in another room and it was still streaming perfectly

[@SUB1KOIRA]

You got me with that Crocodile Dundee photo of Wood.

[@dylanmcgovern9030]

Taughts on buying one if I’m planning on using hotspot from mobile ? Better since update ? Bad reviews about it before

[@viciousviolet3783]

I live in Australia and run both my PS5 and Portal off my phone hotspot 100% of the time as I can't get wired internet where I am. I haven't had any issues it runs smooth and i play COD. Haven't played on the TV since getting the Portal. I have taken my ps5 to a friend house and plugged my ps5 into their wired connection and my portable actually ran worse for some reason. Now that I have to Portal I'd never play on my phone again as the Portal is way better for me. I really hope they release cloud gaming for the Portal in Australia soon.

[@21GUILHERME21]

It works flawlessly now. At least for me. Bought it day one, extremely disapppointed with it, didnt touch it much. Since the last update been using it everyday for hours straight without much hassle. The only annoying thing that happens is it fails to connect to ps5 the first attempt but on the second attempt connects in a few seconds.

[@21GUILHERME21]

I forgot to say, i play it outside my home using hotspot from my phone. (Ps5 is connected to ethernet at home)

[@Charlesdayis]

I tried my ps portal for the first time in months just because of the update. And I have to say mine has way less lag than before. It's still there but it's less often and definitely is working better for me. It's going to vary for sure

[@WyattPrice-un7xr]

Can i play games i bought in the playstation app with my account link download to the portal and be played without a ps5 sorry new gamer here?

[@TEENJAY3]

I’m wondering the same thing b4 I buy it!

[@ExhaustedHobbit]

You just convinced me, I'm buying a 2nd gen Backbone controller for my phone.

[@NewMateo]

I get why people like it. Its way more convenient to walk around the house with a dedicated device than have to carry around a controller with you and also forced to use your phone (and its battery)

[@seanpotatoes8379]

I really dig my portal. My ps5 is hardwired and it runs remote play great. Every once in a while it will get all choppy when I first connect. Whenever I resarted the portal the connection was great. The thumbsticks are the best of all the handhelds out in my opinion. It's pretty cool and now streaming games is available. Things dope.

[@SamFlo22]

Thankfully i've experienced no issues even when I visit other peoples homes several cities away from my console.

[@2gttalon]

I didn't hear you mention it specifically but did you try with the PS5 wired directly to router? I'm a potential portal buyer who's curious