There Are Only 2 Tyres Worth Buying

[@tieoneon1614]

I guess I went the different route. After years of enduro, I found it easy to get a bigger ADV bike thru tricky offroad areas just from balance, momentum and weighting the bars/pegs instead of full knobbies. Having a bike comfortable on long pavement stretches was a newfound pleasure being able to explore anywhere all day knowing u got the skill and experience to get in/out of anything offroad within reason. Or on a hot day after work, just go for a little rip around town to cool off without the worry of wearing out those $270 "offroad only" tires. I found myself riding my bike twice as much with cheap 50/50 tires and adjusting the psi on/off road.

[@onthebackwheel]

Hey it's whatever works for you. Which tyres are you running?

[@superflycatchermtb]

Agreed, I think with big adventure bike riding, unless you are really going for very challenging, steep or muddy terrain, relying more on rider skill, and balance is the way to go. The blocked up knobby tires are just too loud and unpleasant on the pavement for me. The Dunlop Trail Max Missions and the Scorpion STR's are both great versatile adv tires, the will perform great off road except in Mud.

[@tieoneon1614]

Smaller dual sport, I like the Dunlop D605. Cheap, soft rubber for rocks/wet pavement, and the sidewall is soft enough to do anything u want with psi adjustment.

[@tieoneon1614]

@@superflycatchermtb Im on a smaller dual sport, but heard a lot bout the Missions. And I go a long ways to avoid mud, I hate it

[@superflycatchermtb]

@@tieoneon1614 I don't think the Trailmax Mission is a good tire for a smaller dual sport. It's way too stiff and heavy, you need that for the power and weight of a big ADV bike, but there are better, litter more compliant tires for smaller dual sports.

[@meinekleineweltreise]

Wow, I would never call the AX41 a wannabe tire. I really enjoyed them. In the deep sand of Utah and also in the mountains of Colorado. They don’t last long, but perform quite good especially on my Africa Twin. For longer distances I would go for a AX41 at front and a Motoz Tractionator Adventure at the rear. You may get more out of a set of Dunlop Trailmax Mission, but in wet conditions for me they become unpredictable.

[@onthebackwheel]

I didn't mind the front at all, it's mainly the rear I have the issue with. It just didn't last for me

[@Hallnadventure]

I agree, AX41 Adventurecross are on my T7 and my 850GSA. They perform very good off-road, everything from muddy ATV trails in Wisconsin and rocky rutted backcountry roads in Colorado. They also perform very good on pavement, twistys and rain is no problem. This is my opinion… everyone has one. Ha!

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Hallnadventure that's it, they are like assholes 😂

[@Hallnadventure]

@@onthebackwheel Thanks for your insight. First thing I do on all my vehicles, motorcycles or pickup trucks is fit the proper tires for my purpose. On a side note, I had the opportunity to travel to Australia in 1996. My son was a professional mountain bike racer from the USA. He qualified for the World Championships in Cairns, Australia. I traveled to Cairns, we had a heck of a good time, stayed at a resort on the beach. Great people, Jeff finished 17th in the World. I stayed a couple extra days and rented a 650 Yamaha Enduro. I rode up the coast to Cooktown, then I rode inland in the outback. Got stuck in a creek and decided with all the crocodiles in the area that I better stay outta the creeks… haha! The whole adventure in Australia for me and my son, who is 47 years old now was a real highlight! Ride on!

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Hallnadventure sounds like a bloody good time to me. Cairns is a good spot

[@vtrack1963]

For the way I ride my VStrom 1000XT, mostly pavement and good gravel/dirt/rock roads, Dunlop TrailMax Missions have been fantastic. I have over 37,000 miles (60,000 km) on 3 sets of them. Your advice is spot on for the way you ride (as seen from your videos). Good video! Another note, I prefer reinforced bias ply tires for tubeless tires. Their sidewalls are stiff enough you may be able to ride them flat to a safe area to plug them.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good point and something to consider for everyone. That's some good mileage!

[@CorwinYoutube]

Myself as well. Love the TrailMaxMissions.

[@F1since79]

Aussies are the best! Who else would do a motorcycle tire guide video in their underchunders! 😂

[@onthebackwheel]

😂

[@TheShithouseADVRider]

Hi mate, I'm about to throw on my 4th set of MOTOZ Adventure, great tyres, like you said, big mileage, around 10-11k out of the rear on my 2018 R1200GSA. The front did scallop when going back onto bitumen after the dirt and I didn't raise the pressure. Off-road they are nothing but confident, on the road they are still pretty good, I slow down in the wet, I don't want any $hithouse moments.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear mate. I slow down in the wet too, not a fan of stacking it on the tar

[@tankeater]

It's really hard to take the advice of someone who dresses like Vincent and Jewels after they shot Marvin in the face in Pulp Fiction...

[@thegreenman2030]

Lol

[@TheIdlesurfer]

I'm glad it isn't fashion advice, but your man is talking tyres. I agree his basic point. I run my 701 on Michelin Trackers and been happy with Motoz Rallz and Anakee Wilds. Summer in the dry, my road wheels have Avon Treks which are fine on our dry earth and stone tracks. I run my Tiger on Dunlop Trailmax which are good until they get to a muddy incline but really good on the road.

[@saadstrips6573]

I agree with you. He should respect his audience and wear proper clothes.

[@onthebackwheel]

Hahahaha that's a great comment. And no, I will not be wearing 'proper' clothes @saadstrips6573

[@jimwood1068]

😂😂

[@mikef3300]

I have a Ktm 690 enduro r and run Dunlop Trailmax Missions on it. I was burning through knobbies in 2000 miles or less on the roads so I switched to the missions. They are much better on the road, fine on gravel and dirt but not good in mud for me. That’s fine because I’m no fan of mud either. The better road performance has been great. It seems a 50/50 tire suits my riding better than the knobbies and the extra mileage I’ll get out of the is a bonus

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear mate. They seem like they are doing the job for a lot of people

[@chukku2175]

I kind of agree with most of this. There are just two issues: A) most knobby tires are only abailable as tube types. And since many modern ADV bikes only come with TL wheels (because customers are always dissappointed if they don't, which is actually very misguided exactly for this reason), not suitable for those bikes. Only exceptions that I know of: Motoz Rallz / Desert HT and Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ (successor to the E09). And since Motoz are very hard to find in Europe, my only option for my Tuareg is the Mitas. B) Longevity is a double edged sword. Many tires that are famous for their good mileage (like the yellow stripes/Dakar Versions of all Mitas tires and all Motoz except for the Rallz/Desert HT) achieve that with a hard rubber compound (low silica percentage). That makes them a menace on wet roads and you should only consider them if you live in a dry climate like Australia / Africa or some sunny US states. In central Europe you should really value your safety higher than good mileage. Of course there are also tires with good mileage AND wet grip (TKC 70, K60 Scout,...) I am just saying: don't make longevity your main priority if you expect to see rain from time to time

[@onthebackwheel]

Good comment mate and you make some very valid points. I thought Motoz would be more prevalent in the UK and Europe, must be still getting a foot hold

[@chukku2175]

I am speaking mostly from my experience here in Switzerland and neighboring countries. The only Swiss importer stopped selling Motoz last year, and I couldn't find any in Germany, France or Italy either. I tried to import some from Spain, but they delivered the wrong sizes and in TT and then went radio silent.. So I am going to stick to Mitas for a while.. they are actually pretty awesome, try them out if you can get them in AUS. And yeah: I think that Motoz are easier to get in the UK than the rest of Europe.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@chukku2175 that sucks, but good you can still get other good brands 👊

[@edwardlawson9200]

I've run a few motoz and so far am yet to find one that is a fan of wet bitumen. They're tough as old boots and cop the Australian summer well but that may be why they don't seem as popular in cold climates... Just my guess.

[@josipprgomet994]

I have the XT+ Dakar tires on my Tuareg, and I’ve noticed that they feel quite soft, almost like gum. In terms of wet performance, I don’t think they can be significantly worse than the non-Dakar version. These tires have a very soft compound-you can actually press a fingerprint into them. Off-road tires, in general, tend to have less grip on wet surfaces due to reduced contact area. However, the main difference between the Dakar and non-Dakar versions is the firmer carcass. This makes the Dakar version more robust, allowing you to ride even when the tire is flat.

[@alexmoreno8156]

I have Motoz dualventure front and Rallz rear on my Tuareg. They are awesome off road. Totally confidence inspiring. They are noisy on road, but we should be wearing earplugs anyways. The dualventure does wobble some on road when you unload the front during acceleration.

[@onthebackwheel]

Did you find it wobbled from the start or after a little bit of time?

[@stubabyfuora5280]

Agreed, same issue with dual sport, go full knobby, it gives you a real dirt bike and still rides pavement. Add rim locks and balance weight as needed for street

[@onthebackwheel]

Exactly 👍

[@terratrodder]

I've done the D606/MT21 pair for a bit and they work well although the MT21 wore out quickly. I switched to the Shinko 700 with a MotoZ Rallz front and that has worked so good for me for all types of terrain, even amazing in snow surprisingly. I think when the Shinko wears out I'll try the RallZ rear.

[@onthebackwheel]

The Rallz rear should get pretty big kms depending on your bike. Fair few ppl like the Shinko, very solid for the price

[@Mikethebike-ov1yp]

Well said advice. I'm a 60 yr old who rides a lot of highway but needs to be able to scramble forest and fire trail roads. I certainly don't go as hard as you though Curtis on sigle track and the like- mostly solo riding. Easily the best tire I've found for what i do is the Motoz GPS- long lasting, reasonable to good grip on and off pavement, reasonably priced and ozzie designed. The best 50/50 i,ve found. Won't budge from these on my KLR. Allabest mate. PS- i can get up to 10'000 plus Kms out of them on the rear easily.

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate. Sounds like the perfect tyre for you (and lots of others)

[@waynedrew3334]

I found the Motoz GPS downright dangerous on wet roads after riding Tasmania in the wet weather

[@Mikethebike-ov1yp]

Wet roads are dangerous on any tyre. I find myself when wet riding, not pushing it far enough to find out!!!@@waynedrew3334

[@stefaniedmms]

@@waynedrew3334which tyres would you recommend for riding in Tasmania?

[@muzadv]

Yep agree with you. I do a lot of long road rides with mates and then live to go hit the dirt back roads for a weekend by myself on my 800de. The Trailmax Missions are perfect for me

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear mate. Haven't heard a bad thing about the trailmax missions

[@SomewhereInside]

Got a set of Pirelli trail master 2 ‘s …for Versys 650… compared to the stock tyres …they are brilliant , great for power slides on dirt, confidence inspiring on road

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

Love the jarmies 😁 Sorry could not resist. 👍 Good chat, I forked my MT21 not running enough air while doing too many highway and twistie Ks. Rear 606 has stood up well and still giving good feel. Cheers. New bike coming in March, but calls for a 140/80-17" not a lot to chose from. 606 130/80-17 ? Or Trailmax Raid 140/80-17, don't know it.

[@onthebackwheel]

There's a few out there, e07, 805, tkc80. I think you'll be right running a 130 too which gives you a ton more options

[@edwardlawson9200]

TKC70 Rocks is another good option for road with a decent amount of dirt hookup, plus it doesn't hate the wet bitumen. I was thinking about trying the E07+ for a rear next but I have just bought the CFmoto 450MT and now have an 18" rear.

[@flipfpv4539]

Thanks Curtis i ride predominantly road with occasional gravel road coming off "stock tyers" on 2023 KLR adventure i'm going for the Michaelin Adventure probable a bit over kill but i'm expecting high milage form these tyers with good wet weather grip 😊

[@onthebackwheel]

They look like a great upgrade from the stock tires mate

[@manybikes]

Great information. I agree with it all, except the AX41 not being good. Just because it only lasts 1500 miles doesn't mean it wasn't amazing "for a little bit." Motoz RalllZ rear 100% and the Dual Venture are great.

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers mate. I didn't mind the front, but if something isn't going to last I reckon you should just put a knobby on and get great grip too. I was running the tube type rear though, certainly a little different

[@manybikes]

@@onthebackwheel for sure!!!

[@hughmac7423]

Have you tried the Mita E07 Plus? I have them on my Pan Am, find them fantastic in the dirt, not flash in the mud but okay, and good on the road in the wet. 90% of my riding is commuting on sealed roads.

[@onthebackwheel]

Mate not yet. I was tempted by the e07 rear and would like to try the new enduro trail. Certainly lots of love for the e07

[@ToolkiT73UK]

I have E7's and they are great on dry(ish) dirt, but in UK winter mud lacking a bit ..

[@darcyh2889]

I took your advice on board 3months ago and bought a set of Motoz GPSs. Great tyres. You can push them pretty hard on the road and they provide good feedback. Offroad, they are pretty average. I realised that I was more focussed on relearning how to have fun on the dirt which I haven't done for close to 30yrs. Big miles are for later. Learning skills are my goal. Threw on a Motoz RallZ on the back and Dualventure on the front. Love it. Cheers mate. 👌

[@onthebackwheel]

Ah nice mate, good to hear. I'm really rating that set up for adventure riding. Did you go the tube type or tubeless front?

[@darcyh2889]

@onthebackwheel I went with tube type. I'm not going full balls out riding so I opted for the tube type for a softer sidewall and arguably a more compliant contact patch off road. The GPSs are tubeless even though I use tubes with green goop.

[@ianjones7486]

Great advice. I ride mainly on road and use Avon Trekriders on my Husky TR650. On the road they are magic but don't point them at sand on gravel. My 1290 is about to go the Motoz route. I can't wait to try them.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice mate, I haven't run Avon in years they always made good tyres. You'll definitely need something meaty for that 1290 rear!

[@Max-ye9xg]

My sister won't even let me walk around the house in my boxers and t-shirts and I'm handicapped with crutches

[@onthebackwheel]

Hahahahaha 🤣

[@RKmndo]

I prefer a DOT knob with good lateral traction on the front...and a long-wearing ADV tire on the rear. On a scrambler, an E09 or E10 front with an E07 rear seems about right for slabbing big miles while still being able to handle sand and mud.

[@mennonitemoto5941]

Amen! I ride sand about 80% of my km and i FINALLY went to a full dessert tire and its a world of difference. Still street legal and its noisey on the hwy but im mostly offroad

[@onthebackwheel]

They do get a bit noisy once they wear hey

[@mennonitemoto5941]

I am now using the Motoz Desert Tractionator ? I forget exactly what they re called. My Aprilia Tuareg 660 seems to be really difficult to control the front tire in the sand, all my friends who have more experience then me say the same thing, it's a really difficult bike to ride in the sand, gotta be 100% aggressive ALL the time and then it's okay.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@mennonitemoto5941 must be the tyre mate because I didn't find the Tuareg too bad in the sand. Certainly not easy still! I think you might have the desert ht?

[@mennonitemoto5941]

Yeah that sounds like the right tire. I'm a very new rider so I know that's part of my problem. But when I switched to my cousins Harley Pan Am it was WAAAAAY easier to ride in the sand! We have deep heavy dand where I live in canada

[@mennonitemoto5941]

I've also had fooled around with the suspension a lot and found that keeping things super stiff on the front is helpful and softer in the rear, but maybe that's wrong? Advice?

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Wise words Curtis. 👍 Most of my riding comes large chunks of pavement riding and the Dunlop Trailmax Missions have worked well for me there or even on gravel.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice Pinkie, good to hear I'm not recommending crap!

[@retiredwaterdoctor]

Great info when it's time to re-tire.....I will need to do that on the KLR soon as I rolled over 3000 KLM before putting away last fall.

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers. Hopefully you'll be out riding soon enough

[@dmumladze]

I think this is a fair review. RallZ or Tractionator are both are good. Not much difference between the two for size 150/70-18.

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers. Good how they come in 17 and 18s

[@maxw576]

Interesting as I've decided on the motoz rallz and dunlop missions for the same reasons. I've yet to use the Missions as their for a long upcoming trip, but the rallz worked great on difficult off road trails.

[@KristianKumpula]

I once made the poorly informed decision to use a Mitas E07 (which is 40% dirt) as a winter tyre in the rear. It was fully studded and I used low pressures, but it was still so awful that I sometimes I had to push the bike when going up particularly steep snowy hills. On top of that it was probably the stormiest winter I've ever ridden, and consequently a few commutes were an absolute nightmare. It's at least 80% offroad during winters for me since then.

[@modzso2]

So far I have tried Michelin Desert Race and Mitas E12/E13. Both has very good grip, but mitas seems to last longer.

[@onthebackwheel]

I'm looking forward to the new mitas xt+ that's replacing them

[@mazdar100]

Top vid and timely. I run Michelin Anakee Wild front a rear on the T7 but are getting the Michelin anakee adventure but they will be doing a road only trip and will be coming off as soon as I get back. Might consider the motoz you recommend when I fit the dirt tyres back on….

[@nkubitz1981]

How do you freaks not know how to spell “TIRE”??

[@onthebackwheel]

Sometimes I'm not sure if you yanks are joking or not!

[@miclinda256]

I have the motoz on my t7 , and can’t be much better👍 awesome on tar ! And high speed …. Its a 80/80 tire 😂

[@malybullg]

Mate the Rally Dual Venture TT front tyre is amazing. It is more aggressive than the tubeless version and it sticks like shit to a blanket and lasts ages both on and off road. I am on my 3rd rear tyre with it and only just turned it around to even up the wear. Definitely buying this one again.

[@onthebackwheel]

Really liking my front dualventure so far mate, good to hear you've had luck with them

[@nicolasfarbos5381]

I don't know about Australia but in Europe the mechelin tracker is a street legal enduro tyre and really cheap ! Some Motoz enduro tyres are olso street legal but more expensive and hard to find, at least in france...

[@onthebackwheel]

I just had a look and yes, we get them. Nice looking tyres

[@TerrySylvester-ip9on]

“Check out the big brain on Brad” 🤣. Can’t stop thinking about the movie now! I definateky like the Motoz rear on my T7.

[@onthebackwheel]

"Aw, man, I shot Marvin in the face!"

[@brunobb3356]

I had the Motoz Ralzz tires, I detest the front tire that makes an unsayable horible noise on the road , the rear tire is less noisy and has a good service life . For my road trip or you have to do a lot of road to go in the mountain paths, I take Michelin Anake wild or Pirelli STR that work very well on road and paths, and pebble pat and gravel 👍✌

[@onthebackwheel]

I don't think you're alone with your thoughts on the front Rallz

[@briangc1972]

I just switched from the Pirelli Rally STR to the Metzler Tourance Next 2. On road they are much better than the Pirelli Rally STR and on gravel up to 1" thick they perform as well as the Pirelli Rally STR.

[@brunobb3356]

@@briangc1972 thank you for the information 👍

[@TokenTombstone]

I use Maxxis Desert IT for my dual sport KLX 250. Works great everywhere except when it rains you need to be mindful of grip on pavement.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice mate, sounds like most knobbies on the road

[@dimsim257]

Enjoyed the tyre talk… now lets cover 2T oil 😂. But the go is second set of wheels for knobbies and swap as required.

[@onthebackwheel]

That's some big brain stuff mate. And castor oil forever!

[@peterrick3339]

FWIW, on a 1250 GSA i have used Trailmax Mission front & rear. Excellent sealed road tyres. The front was marginal on unsealed and the rear surprisingly works better than i imagined it would on both dry & wet surfaces. Used 3 TMM rears. And they last. 15,000 kms for a rear. I was impressed. A Motoz DualVenture front and TMM rear and this was a good combo. I don't mind the rear getting a bit loose but i need the front to go where i put it and best it can, stay there. The front wheel of a GSA tends to go where it wants to go sometimes. Mitas E07+ pretty good too. Front is great sealed road tyre, OK unsealed. Rear Mitas was good sealed & OK unsealed. Rear did not last. The front does last. A Mitas front & TMM rear was a good combo. It's a matter of finding the tyre(s) that work for what you ride, how you ride, where you ride and on what surfaces. And then ride to what the tyres will let you do. When it comes to choosing tyres, some expensive wastes of money eventuate. So long as no hospital visits eventuate.

[@onthebackwheel]

Great comment mate and good to hear from some real world experience

[@bryanreeme8584]

7000 miles on my rear Rallz on the old klr!.. didnt love my new dv front, but adjusted to it

[@onthebackwheel]

Goodness that's some decent mileage

[@daveo9844]

Running Motoz gps tractionators on my Tiger 1200 RP. Good mileage, just need to back it off a touch on wet bitumen 😅🍻

[@onthebackwheel]

She'd have some grunt too that big triple

[@edwardlawson9200]

Yeah, that's the only thing that I've got issues with on the GPS... Wet bitumen. I've got a trailmax mission on the front and its wet weather traction is excellent and good in the dirt and gravel.

[@chrisrakow48]

Solid recommendations! I've been running the dual venture front and I love it. Had that front wheel slip you mentioned on my KLR with stock tires and decided to get rid of them right away. For the back I got the motoz adventure which is just a bit less aggressive than the rallz.

[@onthebackwheel]

Great choices mate

[@FrancoisTX1974]

I run Motoz dual venture in front and tractionator adventure in the back and they are amazing.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear mate

[@FrancoisTX1974]

@@onthebackwheel good thing is, for the front you can rotate to prevent scooping and extend life.

[@tonyrdr7207]

Good points however I definitely disagree with the Starcross very flimsy side walls. If rapid deflation occurs during a puncture then this tire can cause loss of control within a few meters. It is the total opposite of a 606 and other heavy duty fronts that can be ridden to camp flat.

[@onthebackwheel]

Interesting, I've had one person say otherwise but I haven't had personal experience with them going flat

[@tonyrdr7207]

@@onthebackwheel not so much having it go flat it is the lack of a substantial sidewall that causes the loss of control. All tires can go flat but with this one you can loose control within meters

[@goodolbiker]

I have ran multiple sets and the Bridgestone AX41 tires are my favorite great on road and awesome off-road. I have the trail max right now seem good on road but im going bad to another set of ax41s asap.

[@onthebackwheel]

How much wear are you getting out of a rear and on which bike?

[@aleksandarbotic979]

I run the pirelli scorpion rally str tires on my ktm 1290 S and i love them, they stick like glue in the twistys, great on wheelie, i do tours on them, i get like 8k from the rear. only draw back as you said, they are really loud. but if you want a good twistys tire that can handle well on dirt and light terrain you can't go wrong with them.

[@onthebackwheel]

Solid tyre those ones

[@Snowy-r6r]

I have two very distinct lines of thought on the MotOz...one...I've had them crack until plies were showing, all around the base of knobs, and had them chunk themselves into a state where I didn't trust them any longer and literally threw away a 20% worn tyre, and the feedback I got from MotOz made me wonder if I'd ever use them again (they said they were implementing worlds best practice to correct compounding problems...so what practices were they using before that...worlds half assed?)....and two...I have them fitted to 2 of my 3 currently registered bikes. The smaller ones (750 and 650) that will do mostly dirt. The one that does mostly road (1200) has a set of wheels with Anakee Adventure, and a set of wheels with Anakee Wild. If I do a big trip with a fair amount of dirt, the 1200 will wear the Anakee Wilds. Because I no longer trust the MotOz on the big heavy bike. They have not been value for money for me, they get to a point where I don't trust them to not self destruct long long before they are worn out, and they aint cheap. On the smaller bikes, yes. Big bikes, no.

[@onthebackwheel]

Fair enough mate. I've had good luck on the big bikes with the Rallz and Adventure but can see where you are coming from. I couldn't stand the rear tyre life on the Anakee Wild, front not too bad!

[@Snowy-r6r]

@@onthebackwheel I get between 6000 and 8000 from the Anakee Wild, and I get similar or less depending on cracking severity from the MotOz rears. The MotOz cost more, or did at last purchase. So in terms of dollars/kms...I rate the Anakee Wild as being better bang for buck. In terms of performance...off road the MotOz wins. On road....after a near death experience on the XRV750 with Scorpion Rally front and RallZ rear MotOz last Saturday all I'll say is it's 50/50 you come out alive if things turn to shit. Emergency braking, and the rear didn't grip for shit. Literally the worst tyre I've ever tried stopping hard in a hurry on, and I wore out several Heidenaus in the Snowy mountains in winter. Given on Saturday I was trying to avoid a taxi hell bent on T-boning me it wasn't an experience that left warm and fuzzy feelings about the MotOz. It's only great in the dirt if you make it to the dirt. Buyer beware. Enter into MotOz ownership with open eyes. Are you going to spend THAT much time off road? If it's less than 90% of your riding, buy something more mainstream. The matching Scorpion Rally or even the STR rear would have been a smarter choice for the XRV in hindsight. They may not grip as well in the dirt...by a small percentage...but they sure as shit grip better on the tar. Nothing like deathstaring a taxi while sliding on an out of control rear tyre to make you rethink your tyre choices. The MotOz is coming off next weekend. I'll save it for a desert trip. That's where it belongs.

[@adventuremulemoto]

Tires, tires, tires....Great video! I'm a cheater, I have two sets of wheels for my 1250 GS. When I am heading out to do a BDR or Baja I run a 90/90-21 Trailmax Mission (trying the Trailmax Raid in Baja in two weeks) up front and Motoz adventure in the rear. I switch wheels when i get home and use my stock wheels with mostly street shoes for commuting and such.

[@onthebackwheel]

Best of both worlds there mate

[@theman3343]

have heard great things about the motoz lineup, too bad they are a bit hard to get in the US still. really would like to try the GPS on my 800GS. my shinko 705s have been a solid commuter tire, but every winter when things start turning to mud I really wish I had something with better off-road manners. I think my 705s are more comparable to the missions, do you think the GPS would have better manners in sand/mud, if even just a little?

[@onthebackwheel]

I haven't used the 705's, but the Motoz are a little bit more off-road oriented. Definitely worth a try

[@TRAVERSE_ADV]

Tried the RallZ front? Seems people dont like them, but I've found it a good tyre so far over 7000ks on the ftont and still plenty of life left, no traction issues so far. Run 28psi and never drop or inflate pressure.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice mate, glad to hear they are working for you. I've heard really mixed with them. The dualventure seems to just be a newer, better version

[@skyworx524]

I run Motoz duelventure and Motoz Adventurer done 6k of mixed dirt and road tons of tread left , Great tyres cost a little more than the D606 or pirelli scorpion race .either way great tyres sets

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear mate. Interesting that the dualventure and scorpion rally are the same price for me

[@timlubbers2884]

After trying the mission trailmax tires, I really don’t see myself going to anything else, unless it’s full on knobbies (for pure dirt work) … 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@onthebackwheel]

Good tyres

[@adamrichards2072]

Done about 800km on ax41's. I'll probably get that again out of the rear and I'll be replacing it with desert ht's.

[@onthebackwheel]

That's some ROUGH mileage

[@zerotheklr650]

I'm still a Learner on a Klr650 adventure and now have d605 rear and irc trail gp 21f. Much happier now than the stock tires with 8000km on them.

[@onthebackwheel]

Hand heard of those specific irc tires. I didn't like the 605, glad you don't mind them

[@zerotheklr650]

I got 605 for road and getting through some dirt/mud sometimes. Irc from crf300l given to me new and for free couple days ago. I'm literally and beginner rider on a big girl. Go big or go home...lol

[@onthebackwheel]

@@zerotheklr650 haha that's the spirit mate 👊

[@davewatson1727]

I have a Rallz on the rear of my T7, but after trying 3 different front tires I settled on the Dual Venture. A buddy of mine loves it on his bike, but when I exceed 100km/h I find it has a tendency to wobble, headed for outright tank-slappers as you continue to accelerate beyond 120. Still looking for that ultimate “dual” tire.

[@onthebackwheel]

Hmm I haven't found that yet. How was the balance? The shop did my balance both top/bottom and side to side. I had it up to 170+ the other day and it was good

[@davewatson1727]

Better get it checked again then…. That is exactly what I am looking for. A tire that is good off-road that can handle those speeds on road.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@davewatson1727 mate I was sitting on 100-140 in a rush and it was good. Sure it was no street tyre, but rock solid for a knobbie

[@davewatson1727]

Yeah, I am always having to steer out of a wobble as soon as I give it a good twist on pavement. Annoying as hell. Given you guys have better luck I will challenge the shop to rebalance it.

[@snail626]

I'm with you on the motoz tyres. So far there are unicorn on my 2nd set. Around 5k to 8k. Doing long fast straight Highway riding, twisty wet Rangers bitumen and Dirt. Just to get to the riding destination. A little bit more expensive then I would like but safety first. Far North Queensland riding

[@onthebackwheel]

I hear the riding is pretty good up there

[@denisKelly-sx8gq]

What about Michelin Desert I use the Desert on the front and Dunlop 606 on the rear talking DR 650 no Michelin Desert in 17”

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah they are only an 18. I'd steer clear, they are an FIM tire from memory and can only have limited tread depth

[@Brad.Atv.]

Michelin desert race is am awesome tyre. Rode the Portugal ACT on it & am in Morocco currently. Covers all surfaces very well even the mountain twisted like a supermoto!

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Brad.Atv. nice mate. They certainly perform well

[@toltod]

I want to run the Motoz Adventure on my vstrom so i can get better wear on road. My friend has GPS and wasn't a fan of them. But I want something comparable for the front which can do more road duty, but will perform well in sandy offroad. Closest i can find is the Metzler Enduro Sahara, but they don't make a rear for my 800DE so I'm not sure either work with heavy bikes.

[@onthebackwheel]

Sand and road work, something will have to give there whether it be road or off-road performance. The Motoz Dualventure front is nice, could be worth a look for you, the standard Pirelli Rally too

[@dbmission123]

On my WR250R I love Kenda Trakmaster Rear / Washougal Front. Mainly ride off-road, they're cheap to replace. I'll keep buying new ones more often then sacrifice off-road performance.

[@onthebackwheel]

Ran similar on my klx250, not a bad way to go

[@yvanni0136]

Really enjoying your content and appreciate the time it takes to create it! Very refreshing coming from a younger, non sponser biased aussie! Could I ask whether you've used the GPS rear or tractionator adventure on a larger ADV bike? My new to me 2017 1090R is asking me to put a tractionator adventure or GPS rear to be paired with an dual venture front. Like you, same age, kids, work I want to get on and enjoy and be safe on the 70/30 gravel/4x4/2 track trails but also something that will last considerably on a bigger bike.

[@onthebackwheel]

Definitely the tractionator adventure rear. Solid as tyre, lasts a long time and works in most conditions

[@pastrie42]

Your choice in pants had me hit subscribe almost immediately. Cheers from California. Thank you for the content!

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate 😆 👊

[@Arturiel777]

Mitas EO2 They do it all and give me 20k/mi. Used to use Heidi K60 but the center rib keeps them from hooking up in mud, sand, snow. Mitas front and back.

[@onthebackwheel]

Had to look them up, solid looking all-rounder

[@hagen-oo2cm]

Motoz GPS are great street tyres and just fine on fire trails/ 4wd tracks but just completed 3500km far west with a wide range of road conditions including mud, gravel, sand, bull dust etc and the GPS showed their limitations: kept losing the front on slippery surfaces so will definitely move up to knobbies. Will probably keep with Motoz range as they really give great milage.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good info mate. I'm very happy with my dualventure front, performs well off-road

[@everydaybiker]

Hey. Thanks for the video. The tyre answer for medium weight, like 701 690 tenere etc, is... the motoz Rallz for 50/50 or michelin tracker for nobby. easy,

[@onthebackwheel]

Good combo for sure

[@ADSCoachSimonB2112]

Now you set a benchmark may have to have a different set of board shorts at camera angle change hay wonder if rip curl will sponsor that. 😮 Love the vids just got a triumph x400 scramble mainly been just touring 👍🏻

[@onthebackwheel]

Mate I'm tempted to accept that challenge 😂

[@mkramsauer]

Great description brother 👊 seeing what you do on the bike I'd take your suggestions any day

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate

[@thexrs7062]

Setting sag/ head angle is important also to stop the push with all tires.

[@onthebackwheel]

💯

[@NunyaBusiness...]

This is solid advice if you are heavy in the dirt, and run some pavement to get there, but for somebody who runs 90% pavement and their "dirt" is just forest roads I think the 80/20s, 60/40s, etc. have a place. At least here in the USA. As I've never been to your beautiful part of the globe I take you at your word and would follow your advice! I'm in this 90/10 category myself. I live down a mile long dirt road that is washboards, potholes, and a bit of gravel, so a pure street tire won't work for me. Every time I ride I have a minimum of 2 miles of stuff that street tires suck at, but I may not ride any other "dirt" than that 2 miles in a day. I'd much rather have a tire that can handle my road and others like it on occasion, but can also run 80 MPH (130 KPH) for a few hours on the interstate highway without vibrating, being obnoxiously loud, or disintegrating in 2000 miles (3200 km) like a knobby tire would.

[@NunyaBusiness...]

I should add, I love the channel and am subbed. Really just commenting to boost interaction and try to help you grow!

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate! Sounds like you've got it sorted

[@brownsworthy7323]

Been running the Michelin Tracker TT front and rear for around 1200km and love them they're a little aggressive much like the Michelin Enduro but that suits me and have worn quite well. I prefer them over the old mt, 606 combo

[@onthebackwheel]

Hey depending on the riding you are doing, 1200km is a lot of time and fun. Mates ran them in the USA and loved them on the lighter bikes

[@brownsworthy7323]

@onthebackwheel I've only taken the top off the rear front looks new I'd say 65% off road 35% on road. I've been pretty smooth on them as I did my MCL last year and have been taking it easy I reckon I'll easily get 4000km out of the rear.

[@brownsworthy7323]

@onthebackwheel oh, it is on an XR400R that I use for single trail and light adventures

[@onthebackwheel]

@@brownsworthy7323 sounds perfect to me

[@magnav65online]

For those of us running tubes in adv tires, it would be very helpful to comment on how stiff the sidewalls are as in which ones will be a major PIA to service roadside w/ small hand tools 100 mi from the nearest shop.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good point. Definitely varies with different tyres. I do find it a lot easier to change worn tyres than new ones though. I hate changing new ones 😂

[@kristapseglitis4761]

So Mitas 07+ on the rear is a no go? There are very good reviews on the nets for them.

[@onthebackwheel]

They are good if you aren't doing much off-road. You're right, lots of people love them

[@hughmac7423]

I have them on my Pan Am, they are pretty good, not fantastic in the mud, but great on dirt and sealed roads, even in the wet, then most of my riding is commuting or road touring.

[@ckkrons2338]

E-07+ is nearly as good as a knobby with almost 2x the life. Plus no knobby squirm on the road with the big block pattern.

[@NoSkillzMoto]

Great content as always. I do a little off road with my DE but mostly on roads. I ride with 50/50 tires. I use Hidenau K60 Scouts. They are pretty good tires and very well priced they are similar to Motoz GPZ. Unfortunately Motoz stuff is just unobtanium in Canada where I live. I even have them on my Royal Enfield Int650 and I really like them in it, the bike handles logging roads very well. The K60 scouts are good for my area because the side lugs, unlike where you ride we got nothing but sharp blast rock and loose gravel. There is no going fast on this stuff because the DE just digs in with the skiny front tire and the 530 lbs of weight, I think a wider 19 inch would do better. This is another reason why I don't ride with hard luggage, I almost busted my leg more then once. Any who great content. Not sure if you took a look at the k60 scouts, K60 rangers are more nobby but very loud on the road.

[@onthebackwheel]

I'm not a fan of hard luggage at all for the rough stuff either. My local stores don't have a lot of Heidenau. I can get the KLR size rear but not for the big 800DE

[@NoSkillzMoto]

@@onthebackwheel Well Motoz is made in Aus isn't it? The k60s scouts are pretty inexpensive its 120 for front and 220 for rear. Motoz are like 160 front and 420 for rear. Crazy.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@NoSkillzMoto ouch, that's mental. This set was 480 aud. No doubt the scouts would be cheaper here too though

[@myronhorvathsk]

I have an Africa Twin 1100 AS and I am running K60 Scouts on it and I really like them. I'm pretty much due to replace the rear one but I do have about 22,000Km on it and just over 8000km of that I was loaded very heavy and made it up to just north of the Arctic Circle to the NWT border, and it was wet and snotty all the way up the Dempster and back down and my bike stayed under me where it belonged. lol. I am sure a more knobby rear would have been burnt off just from the trip alone.

[@Advcrazy]

After trying most of the more aggressive adv tires I’ve come tot he same conclusion: scorpion race (mst) front is amazing, and the rallz works well in most condition and also outlasts most of its competition. Have to say though, I slightly prefer the michelin desert rear. But man it’s an expensive tire! My choice between those two tears would only come down to price and availability at the time as they’re both great tires.

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah right, yet to try that one. Price is definitely a real breaker sometimes

[@xau]

I agree with you on Pirelli Scorption Race MST, however I have tried both versions the tubetype and the TL, and the tubeless lacks performance compared to the tubetype... Its hard to find excelent knobies on tubeless, specially for the front. For the back I am having a blast on Metzelers Extreme and the Motoz Rallz are just impossible to run on wet tarmac, here it rains a lot. I have yet to try the Dunlops 908RR rally raid, but i think they are also TT.

[@pastrie42]

I don't why I've never heard the term "front tuck" but it's the perfect description. It's my least favorite feeling on my Tenere with the stock tires on loose gravel. I ride 90% on road but I want to go on BDR's with my dad once/twice a year. I was thinking about having a road set and an adventure set, but I don't know how impractical it is to change them out. What are your thoughts on that? I am approaching end of life on my stock rear tire and wondering what your thoughts are for a guy like me? I really, really love the stock tires on the road atm, but I don't know if they are actually awesome or if I can do better with something else.

[@onthebackwheel]

They are good road tyres for sure. Something like the trail max mission will be similar on road but give more miles. It's always tricky when you ride on the road so much but don't want to lose off-road performance. Possibly look at the new Dunlop Trailmax Raid. It will be a compromise off-road, but might strike a balance for you if you aren't pushing hard. Otherwise I'd go for something like the Motoz Dualventure tubeless front (it's a good mix, not as aggressive as the tube type) and a Motoz adventure rear

[@pastrie42]

@@onthebackwheel Hello! I ended up being in a hurry and prioritized tires that are road focused for the winter as I ride rain or shine every day. I got the anakee adventure's because they are better in the rain. My plan going forward is to try your suggestion in the spring because the anakee adventures wear quickly. I think this 80/20 wet focused rain tire in winter and more adventure style tire for spring/summer/fall will be fun. I don't mind cost because it's my lifestyle and I want the best I can get when it comes to performance.I plan on using new pairs of tires that are more aggressive for any big BDR trips. It might cost me some more money, but that's just how it goes if you want performance. I just need to take the leap in spring and see how it works. I am going to start making some videos and stuff, so I will keep you updated on that journey next year. Thank you for your advice and your videos.

[@onthebackwheel]

@pastrie42 good to hear from you mate. We are lucky in that we don't have winters here like overseas!

[@dirtbike_viking]

When shopping for tyres I look at how they perform for the riding I am doing not mileage. I never had an enjoyable experience with motoz on any bike. Not sure about the other tyres in your line up there because I have no experience with them but I have had great fun and a lot of confidence with the Anakee wild Michelin tyres.

[@Biggiesbikes]

I love my Karoo 4 , I have a lot of confidence in them.

[@onthebackwheel]

What kind of mileage you expecting?

[@Biggiesbikes]

@@onthebackwheel The last set I got 10,000 on front till it was spent , i kept it on till 12,000 because iI got 6000 each out of two rears, I look for dirt where ever I can but there is always a lot of tar to get to there. They are excellent on the tar and they handle better than i ride on the dirt

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Biggiesbikes good to hear mate, that's pretty decent. Sounds like it's exactly what you're after

[@gilvietor1918]

Last September my buddies and I did the Idaho BDR, my close friend had the moto z and i had the Anakee. At the end 2066 miles I probably had 20% till bald and he was 50%. He was on a 2023 Africa Twin and I was on a 1090 adventure r, his bike also had more luggage and the CVT so quite a bit heavier than me. The Anakees were amazing in everything even a stream with silt on the bottom. I will try the Moto z after this front tire wears out, but man are changing tires on the KTM terrible with that inner seal.

[@onthebackwheel]

Adventure tyres are bloody hard to change!

[@robbieandbeckie]

I run Shinko 244's on my KLR and DR650, Michelin Anakee Wild on the Africa Twin. Happy with them ao far, but looking at the new Tusk 2 Track for the ATAS. Half the price of the Michelin. I run street tires on my cruiser, Metzler 888 on the Yamaha Raider. Wife says I have to many bikes, I was thinking about a T7. Go figure.

[@onthebackwheel]

You can never have too many!

[@repetitivemotion]

I put a set of Michelin Anekes on my VStrom that I ride mostly on pavement and occasionally on gravel roads and they work just fine. If I’m going to ride dirt I’m getting the DRZ out

[@onthebackwheel]

Fair enough mate, certainly nothing wrong with that

[@iynvfy1536]

Good talk 👍🏼 but hey! Do you know if it’s possible to convert these rims to accept a tubeless tire?

[@onthebackwheel]

You can put a tubeless kit in them, people love them

[@iynvfy1536]

@@onthebackwheel You da man! Others told me the front wheel wasn’t set up to be converted

[@onthebackwheel]

@@iynvfy1536tubliss.com/tubliss/. Check them out. Mates run them and love them

[@RyfusFox]

Appreciate the two cents on tires. I recently bought a Tenere 700 and wanted something that had a good balance for traveling as well as off road useage. I unfortunately have to travel a decent amount to go to trails that are more than just a dirt path.

[@onthebackwheel]

It's always a compromise, unless you love spending money on tyres 😂

[@RyfusFox]

@@onthebackwheel Yeah, that's a no on my end. Realistically, I ride normal trails with maybe some mud, nothing super deep and I take my bike out to the mountains and hit up trails there. I don't plan on running hard through a swamp or deep mud.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@RyfusFox the motoz are a good option in terms of wear and performance. Pretty crap on wet tarmac is their only fault

[@jac3126]

@@onthebackwheel is there a tyre that is good on wet tarmac? I run motoz and my last trip home was awful, 2 days rain on wet bitumen... can't fault it otherwise

[@MrRplo]

Good video. Michelin Enduro Mediums are excellent full on off road tires that are street legal.

[@onthebackwheel]

Great suggestion mate, serious tyres those

[@grantplaster3858]

What do you think of Shinko 244? They advertise as a 50/50 but it feels more like a 70/30 off road/onroad

[@onthebackwheel]

I had these on a KLR. Found them good on the road, ok on gravel and awful in the mud/wet conditions

[@danielw.9090]

Excellent Curtis, as always appreciate your input. Stay up bro👍🏾cheers.

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks!

[@craigwade8054]

Just put the rally and the rallz on the 690. Good to hear as I ride seq trails. Cheers mate

[@onthebackwheel]

Great choice! I'll let you know how the dualventure TT goes

[@craigwade8054]

@@onthebackwheel sweet. I nearly chose it too. But I was curious to try the pirelli first. Love your work mate. Cheers

[@onthebackwheel]

@@craigwade8054 thanks mate. I loved the Pirelli, will definitely be using it in the future

[@drifterdave01]

Just don’t get a flat. Ever changed a Motoz yourself?

[@BobsBikingAdventures]

Could depend on where you live but for me, the best compromise are the Michelin Anakee Wilds. You can do motorway, track day and mud, on a big adventure bike. Ideal for the UK. They're not perfect at anything but they're much better than average at just about everything. Riding full knobblies on a 250kg adventure hike on wet, winding tarmac is not my idea of a good time 😅

[@onthebackwheel]

I agree, definitely got to factor in your conditions

[@tndeere2]

I’ve been riding for 40 plus years and have found you get what you pay for. Bridgestone, Dunlop and Michelin all have served me well over the years. Avoid the cheap China tires

[@onthebackwheel]

The Shinko's are getting a fair bit of love now days. But yes, can't skimp on tyres

[@rickalexander3573]

Good and informative video. I'm definitely thinking Motoz. I like the Mission trail max too. You're the only guy I've ever heard though not lke the Bridgestone Battle Axe. The only gripe I've ever heard about them was the wear rate,everyone seems to like the performance though?

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers. Performance was solid for the style of tyre, but the rear wear rate was horrible

[@bpositive8551]

I don' t have any practical experience with motorcycles but I have watched at least 2 youtube videos and I now consider myself an expert. My tire-less research has brought me to a conclusion that I firmly believe every motorcyclist will agree with. There are only 2 tyres a motorcycle will ever need: 1. Front 2. Rear. 3. Tubeless

[@onthebackwheel]

You had me at 'tire-less'

[@davidellis9358]

Great Video, I have been running the Bridgestone AX41 on my Norden 901 expedition and your right , the wear rate is shit 3000 km and i am one of the old farts that's now venturing off road and loving it . But I am very happy with the grip both on road and off . My question is does the Motoz rall z have a similar grip leave on road wet and dry . Cheers Dave

[@onthebackwheel]

Gday Dave. It's slightly less in the dry and a fair bit less in the wet. Thing is, WAYYYY better mileage

[@davidellis9358]

@@onthebackwheel Thanks that's helps heaps

[@snowgsadventures3232]

Good coverage. Dual Venture are no better than the Adventure front they replace EXCEPT that you can flip them around to mitigate the horrendous scalloping the are prone to on heavier bikes (all adventure bikes). Motoz Adventure rear gave me 14,000kms…front Dual Venture without flipping gives you half that, with flipping you’ll get an extra 2000kms. I’ve personally run TKC80s, Trailmax Missions, STRs, K60s, and can say my Motoz Adventure rear has been the best but am still hunting for a front with off-road bite that doesn’t shake at 135kmph+ (DV and Rallz do). STRs and Trailmax Mission are good to 200kmph+ but have little dirt bite. My new 1290R (0kms) comes with AX41s and I expect them to evaporate like TKC80s.

[@onthebackwheel]

That big 1290 might be a bit rude on tires mate 😂

[@drott150]

You ride large, heavy dual-purpose bikes. Aggressive bite is critical on these sleds off road. Especially if you ride at any speed at all. However, if you ride small, flyweight type dual purpose - like an XT225 as I do - a more balanced 70/30 dirt/street tire can work great offroad and on road. The bike's low weight, limited power and calmer speeds means the limitations of not having full knobbies is a very reasonable compromise in exchange for decent roadability and much longer wearing tires.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good point. I used Dunlop 605s on my klx250 and they worked quite well. Tried them on my big KLR and they were terrible!

[@Thanatos2996]

What did you think of the D606/M21 combo compared to your recommendations here? That’s the standard combo I always hear for dual sports, and you mentioned you’ve run it on a bike, so I’m curious what puts the ones you went with above them?

[@onthebackwheel]

I found it to be a great combo on dual sports. The tyres I recommended are more for bigger adventure bikes but there's some definite cross over. The pirelli rally race front is basically a more aggressive, newer and better (also more expensive) mt21. The motoz rallz tube type 130 and 140 rear I found to be pretty comparable to the d606 rear

[@Thanatos2996]

@@onthebackwheel thanks for the reply, that's very helpful info.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Thanatos2996 any time

[@FeralPanda87]

So far I'm a huge fan of the Tusk Dsport tires. They are a DOT legal aggressive knobby and they seem to do great on and off road on my DRZ400 and they're cheap!

[@onthebackwheel]

There have been a few people really rating them. Sound like a really good small bike option

[@pimmeijer7589]

Problem I have is that every time I want to ride a trail I first have to take 100km's on the highway since there are no dirt trails close to my house. And even when I get to a place with trails I still have to ride about half on asphalt between the trails. What would you recommend for that? I'm assuming a nobby offroad would wear far too quick?

[@onthebackwheel]

I still use knobbies for that. I got 5500km out of my Pirelli set and I used it for commuting which is all road. My Motoz I'd say the front is going to get a bit more, rear similar, though I am rude on rear tyres!

[@stuart5899]

Advice please on best road tyres for my 2024 Triumph Tiger Rally Pro- - fast rider so need good grip & lots of touring Spain Portugal Croatia but live in England

[@onthebackwheel]

There are a few good options but you are slightly limited by the 21 front. Karoo street, Tourance next, Anakee road, A41 are all good options

[@noelbowerman1562]

I run Anakee adventures on my CB500X, they grip far better than they should ,pretty good milage too.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice mate. I might be trying them next month on an AT, keen to see how they hold up

[@Dave-sw2dm]

I run shinko 705 on my adventure bike. I don't do single track or mud.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice mate, lots of love for the 705

[@briangc1972]

I just switched from the Pirelli Rally STR to the Metzler Tourance Next 2. On road they are much better than the Pirelli Rally STR and on gravel up to 1" thick they perform as well as the Pirelli Rally STR. The Pirelli is better in the deeper sand and gravel up to about 2" deep. More than 2" deep and I would choose a different tire. I wish the manufacturers would rate tires by how deep of sand they perform well in instead of this stupid 70/30, 50/50 etc rating. What if your 30% off road time is in 4" deep sand? The current rating system is worthless.

[@onthebackwheel]

💯 agree

[@logangray9483]

great vid, what pressures you running front and rear onroad?

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers. Roughly 34psi rear and 31psi front with the motoz. Could go harder slightly harder if needed

[@logangray9483]

@@onthebackwheel just picked my motoz up, I'm excited! Tenere 700 dual venture front/ Rallz rear

[@onthebackwheel]

@@logangray9483 good combo mate! Bit slippery in the wet roads, but good everywhere else I find

[@Badlander87X]

I will stick with metzler karroos i had them on my 2002 varadero 1000cc and loved them and the life i got from them on and off road in ssand and mud but also on road . I will be outfiting my new bike suzuki vstrom 1050de with karoos for my trip

[@onthebackwheel]

Which karoos are you using bud?

[@Badlander87X]

@@onthebackwheel I was using karoo3s at the time . And I also used karoo streets they where more of an aggressive 70street/30off Road. But I will be going with the karoo4s or karoo5s if they come out in time. When I had the karoo3s on my varadero I would ride my varadero like a big trails bike and it would just hold great

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Badlander87X I had the karoo 3 on a review bike and found they really struggled in the muddy stuff. I'm looking the look at the karoo 4 rear

[@Badlander87X]

@@onthebackwheel yeah I never found the had a struggle on muddy stuff I did find very light grade sand there was some annoying slippage but I had countered that with standing up with my torso more positioned towards being inline with the rear wheel helped on that problem

[@jacbosmitt]

Hopefully you can test out the tusk 2track adventure tires sometime soon, they have good reviews so far from a lot of channels.

[@onthebackwheel]

So far we don't get Tusk into Australia. I'll keep an eye out