There's A Big Problem With FFA

[@f1scher209]

Haha Drongo literally moves the camera away every time a king is out, the one time you dont ever want to look away. Same as yesterdays vids!

[@dayvampire]

that really annoys me 😂. The seconds when it matters the most

[@Bamarama-]

The kings are rather glitchy right now now, I don’t know how anyone could look away! I’m like Sauron from lord of the rings when it comes to that moment.

[@sanethoughtspreader]

I think it might be a micro police moment? ;) it happens a lot.

[@jginda1]

Exactly 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Waddehaddeduddedaa]

Well deserved to then not get the king kill :D

[@Therover19]

checks eco at worst possible moment xD

[@TheHiveLife]

"now i can rebuild vills"

[@Rafael-c9c]

I was checking the replay, he selected the units but did not click on the king. He went to build a gate in the bottom east stone wall.

[@iurigato9351]

It triggerd me so much

[@gregiolo]

Why did you do this???

[@bonkers7888]

When you left the screen with the orange king, I was screaming at my phone pls stay on the screen u r not gonna get the king 😂

[@malikwaite9122]

Stop looking away mate 😂

[@GuilhermeBerger42]

"As long as we keep this one villager alive it's gonna be fine" Instantly looks away for 10 seconds and loses the vill

[@bmoore117]

that has to be the most sheep I've ever seen, nice haul!

[@tobplu]

Insane! Sheep king 😂

[@GuilhermeBerger42]

/106 Nice sheep

[@CloudCuckooCountry]

This problem could have been foreseen because Outback Octagon had to enforce sportsmanship through refereeing (folks might remember the time 3D!Bee was almost suspended because he was thought to have donated a king) and there's no way to referee random players in QM. Outback Octagon rules work in a tournament setting where players can be punished for poor sportsmanship, but don't work in QM lobbies

[@DjdanVans]

My gf hates these videos bc I watch them every night to fall asleep, love your work mate. Ps grass is greener over here in NZ

[@PedroGonzalez-ef3zv]

My wife too

[@helmetlvl1608]

lol i do the same thing and have the same problem

[@dr.evil2some847]

So it's not just me then...

[@matejlinek287]

Haha exactly, she hates drongos voice 😀

[@TheWeberlow]

Aoe4 contet for asleep over year!🎉

[@huib912]

Looking away again at the most crucial moment. 😂

[@jaspertjePoekie]

Drongo mate, you need to pay attention when about to kill a king. Everytime you are close to killing it (WITH MELEE ONLY), you get outsmarted because you lack the ranged units.

[@Abraktil]

40:44 you didn't freakin check the king death ...

[@patricity9355]

I dont understand why you assumed that blue gifted his king to teal, and looking away from the orange king was the most insane thing ive ever seen lol

[@mhcc3143]

You know that phrase “eyes on the prize”?… yeah…

[@Marcus-ft3bj]

Drongo looking elsewhere before the king is killed is so typical LOL

[@Deiyo_]

Handing off the king like that is pretty bad sportsmanship, like if I want to be sour I just make them work for it, make em earn it haha

[@sanethoughtspreader]

I feel Drongo needs to play more proactive against it. Like the first time he backed out when he didn't know where the king is. They nice so slowly. There's a big window to get them if you've vision and scouts. You don't need to be in castle to grab them. But I do get it is annoying and I've been given kings and it feels weird. Not given people the chance to do it to others though ;)

[@kianunez2341]

Everyone playing AOE4 while Drongo is playing psychological warfare simulator 😂😂

[@Bamarama-]

I’ve watched your casts in silence for the last year now but it’s finally time I sent a shout out! My guy, that was one of the best views I’ve watched and I’m really enjoying getting to know this side of you. Your skill is always recognizable and I think that’s why no king would ever stand in your path, unless respected but I see how respect works in this game now 😂 “it’s Drongo! Run!”

[@ryanspam3903]

I've called the macro police for the stone and food float and lack of cisterns. They are investigating the matter.

[@decoste007xt]

I've never seen Drongo more tilted. But honestly, you're a Conq 3+ player fighting a bunch of plats and golds. They're handing off their kings more often because of that. It's a fun watch, but it is getting old seeing Drongo pull a Stepbrothers and come in swinging at a kindergarden hahahaha

[@colinfagan539]

They just need to change that if you kill someone's landmarks, you get the pop bonus. That way they can't just run away the king and give it to someone else

[@ATTLASSXD]

This is 100% a great idea. I wished they would put this idea in game!

[@jurrebrouwer2885]

You tilted me hard by not securing the orange king... omg i was watching the minimap and he just walked away.... wtf idk why you go put your villagers to work when ur about to kill a king

[@thebosley4103]

Would be nice if they added a kill counter next to player names

[@thebosley4103]

Surely the technology isn’t there yet

[@rasselbock-games]

Psst come check out the meat grinder mod ​@@thebosley4103

[@rasselbock-games]

@@thebosley4103psst check out meat grinder mod

[@olegdragora2557]

King donations make it so there is no reason to do anything other than turtling and booming the entire game. Actually playing the game is double punished with being behind booming opponents and with them getting more population from the king donation. This has to be fixed.

[@nottaken81]

Drongo that was fun to watch. Keep up the FFAS! Likes incoming...

[@ChiefsPriest31]

appreciate the content, you're a great player, Dont take it so seriously man, you hilariously troll people all game in chat, under the guise of "tradecraft". its a video game. Have fun man.

[@taufeeqk018]

Will you do a vid on your keybinds??

[@dr.evil2some847]

U didn't hit the like button... That's ok... I'm sure u just forgot...... But I'm here to help...

[@leonidas_dragas]

Bro how did you know!?!?

[@dr.evil2some847]

@@leonidas_dragas well if ur the guy I said this to, at the time, it was only me and u that had viewed the video, and he only had 1 like, and I knew that I hit the button.... LMAO I'm not the police tho, just being funny, or trying to b anyway

[@ravikanth823]

I usually like all his videos but I'm not liking this one..... He was so over confident and looked away at the most important phase.... As an admirer I'm mad now 😂

[@brunolima.]

not the first time drongo allows the king be killed by other players for free hahahahahhahaha

[@RogersAB]

Ahh my favourite time at work. Time to lock the doors, chill out, light a spliff and watch some AoE

[@WalrusJones185]

I imagine people will keep king donating at a greater rate even after strategies partially counter it, because to an extent, the people who king donate are likely only down for low-rushing playstyles, so they will do what they need to push the balance in a punitive way that hurts everyone they dislike. After all, if the quickmatch for FFA is elo based, these choosing to die scenarios where you take the L are going to be rewarded: You are more likely get matches where you feel powerful if you do something that''s spiteful and makes you feel good in the moment. There are no rewards for doing well, so there is nothing to mitigate unsportsmanly ways of dying feeling good for people who are frustrated. Its like how I imagine, 6-8 months down the line, there will be people who keep forces in reserve to just rush people who speak like there is a code of honor (As this defends them to have units in reserve, AND lets them swarm like piranas at people who are trying to be smart.) These sorts of anti-social buzzkills tend to compound and get worse over time once they get discovered.

[@FuuzBeeen]

I think you were in the right for getting mad, as plenty of this match made me mad from getting so invested.

[@houseaccount3293]

Drongo the Berries dont need to be in the circle for the GW, as long as the vill walks back into the influence and drops off it counts. You can do the same trick with farms as you do with HRE and put one ring of farms set a mill and expand the amount of farms and the vills drop off at the mill and it counts.

[@_Makanko_]

You sure you're on the right island with that amount of sheep, jeez

[@Nicr0nRo]

Hey man! Love the content but you dont need the bamboozle chat: “stop attacking” you’re conquerer lvl… you are bigger than that! 16:02

[@kmaclub143]

You should have put the cistern in the walls with the keep and attached it to the walls to go through to the other cisterns. That way you would always have at least one cistern worth of upgrade on your keep.

[@snoober6690]

im pretty sure he right clicked with his cannon ctrl group and not his army. and his last cannon get destroyed before it killed the king

[@singularityraptor4022]

Its on you. Could have spent like extra 2 seconds to make sure to kill the king instead of Muh eFfiCiEnCy turbo apm with vills. 🤡

[@therichest3974]

Takes his eyes off the kill over and over..😩

[@michaelnel5272]

Your malding is the best part of this game 😂

[@patrickwasp]

It’s frustrating but could lead to an interesting idea. Have a dynamic handicap system that awards all surviving players additional pop space when someone gets taken out, except the killer of course. Or maybe that would just encourage turtling.

[@BavidDigg]

Oh man laughed so hard when oranges king escaped 🤣

[@tillhaferkorn6263]

just casually dropping of 29 sheep with the first return 😀

[@aldrintrinidad7496]

This is what happen when you celebrate early.

[@MichaelLwin2011]

Bro just said - We are going to have a "berry" good game. 😂

[@harishmandala3207]

that oil

[@hugomalacalza8977]

handing a king poor sportmanship? YES had u had the right to be mad? YES should a penalty be implemented against those actions?... unless it is a tournament or a ranked match, a dont think it should be penalize

[@berserk1934]

You have EVERY RIGHT to be salty , you wrecked them and then they rage quit. Poor , poor sportsmen these days.

[@Kreptiuz]

Would be fun to watch a FFA with 15min prep-time! :D 8 big armies batteling

[@ILIKETOBOOM]

'yes laugh it up brandon' had me in stitches

[@TheBrightStar217]

I think a good way to handle this would be to set a few key structures as anchor points, and have the player lose massively on their rank (or even some kind of griefing punishment) if they are eliminated with a king that isn't in proximity to those structures. And it would also clearly indicate collusion if you see a keep in the middle of someone else's base with a king tucked away.

[@Willius542]

You got completely fucked in this game and still managed to win, just shows how much skill you really possess

[@mariobro1954]

Found a Bug with killing a King as it enters a tower. It didn't give me the pop cap increase. Let me know if you want to see the game.

[@ForggeEsportsNutrition]

HAHAHHAA you go to check your macro at the most important part of the game! LMAO, discipline my friend.

[@sisi6679]

whyy drongo why ! do you look away when it matter most lol and let the king escape holy moly man lol

[@kohnjack]

I'm sorry... Did he say 34 sheep was "NOT BAD" ???? Excuse me Aussi man, 34 sheep is unheard of where I come from.

[@stephenbennett9991]

"In the end it comes down to raw skill." Fun to watch, but I spit out my milk when I heard you say that.

[@mrjonesyyy]

I got soo stressed out when you left the king without confirming he was dead. Alll of your seige got destryoed and you panned away then didn't see king defeated i knew something was up

[@Antid0te87]

agreed, huge problem. has happened to me countless times. lame. dont know what to do about it tho

[@thebosley4103]

Dude why the hell do you always look away from the king and let him slip, have watched it 4 times now

[@thebosley4103]

lol sorry. Love you, feeling your pain. When you looked away and 5 seconds passed and no pop increase I knew he was a goner

[@Grandwizard3675]

How do you love another man who doesn’t even know you? 🤢

[@thebosley4103]

@@Grandwizard3675 lol part of speech

[@kmaclub143]

How come the grand winery didn't get the 2nd 3rd or 4th cistern? This is why I think cisterns should be towers.

[@Nosedive_253]

ive noticed youve done this with a few fights, you dont take 3 seconds to confirm a kill or reorder formations and look away for extended amount of seconds, we all do it because that idle vil pop is nagging at our brain, but especially with big maps like this going for the confirmed kill, especially with how if they run out the back of the castle your units will get tied down with the closest enemy instead of confirming a king kill.

[@aspiringmarauder666]

King-gifting petty cowardice

[@ReinhardvonHolst]

Another masterclass from a classy Aussie.

[@davidt02]

These huge maps are getting a little boring because there's not much action until you attack them. In this game, everyone is just turtling and waiting for late game. Missing the 1vs1 casts.

[@nikk5316]

This actually so tilting to watch, letting the king escape with 50 units around...

[@MrAtaguas]

Drongos got some serious ADHD issues like the point of the game is to kill kings not make the 255th farm at just the right location bruh lol

[@misterbucksmorebucks5103]

29fn sheep!?!??

[@OahuKanaka]

Srry Drongo but theres no way in hell you take ur eyes off the fight RIGHT before you kill their king man. That was on you

[@session182]

how can i play this mode?

[@cybermini1]

Tbh if you support bullshitting in chat then throwing away the king to a different player is just a different angle to discourage getting attacked... I personally do not care for both of those methods. Bullshitting in the chat just leads to players ignoring the chat because any information there is unreliable. To me calling out people throwing their king away to other players (to spite their executioner, teamdonations are lame) when you're leading disinformation campaigns in the chat is like the scammer accusing the thief of theft.

[@BavidDigg]

Maybe just make visibility of all Kings possible from feudal onwards instead of castle. Doesn't really need to be a castle thing.

[@CanDooBU]

Drongo, we need your help! FFA Nomad on xbox, the king doesn't have abilities, no king run or king spy. Could u use your connections and make xbox the same as PC. (Idk how to report to AoE4)

[@fallenrangers]

Maybe the king should hit is invisible wall for Main TC.

[@abdulrhaman222755]

focus you will now HOW!

[@bentonli6942]

If you really want that king you need your own king hunting cav squad. Complaining dont help. Regardless of how unsporting it is.

[@ryanstone2581]

The audacity of orange to whine about 2v1 when he was teaming with red all game

[@nationarmy2514]

they should do that if u kil all enemy landmarks the king dies and the kill goes to the person who got the kill on last landmark.

[@LAUGHINGMAN91]

Drongo mate its not a bug its a feature lol, if you give your king to someone you've basically FF'd and allied them at the same time so you can keep playing and the games a bit more fun if they let your king live. I can totes see why you hate it tho tbh lol

[@raaaaaymond]

That fucking moment when Drongo no longer fucking gives a fuck about getting fucking demonetised LOL.

[@heritortheory6201]

The problem here is how would you even curb this sort of behavior? Make the King not obey commands to enter enemy zones? Give a penalty for pop bonus in future games? There really aren't good solutions for being this level of vindictive heel move.

[@yun-kengcheng9384]

53:24 Nice shot.

[@matejlinek287]

You do this mistake a lot. In crucial moments, you look elsewhere and the king escapes.

[@PSCmain]

Will there be an Outback octagon 3 if so how close to the announcement are we?

[@DavidKalinex]

I always love your content Drongo but I feel there is something odd about being okay with chat-spamming and lies in order to win at all costs, but then complaining when people refuse to let their king die to you...

[@mr_allba1453]

Awsome game bysantines are alot of fun

[@DarkArrow2k9]

Also feels bad when your matched vs Conq3 players so don't really blame him for throwing his king to someone else

[@naeemthomas7196]

i dont understand why you didnt get the elite upgrade for the vangaurds either

[@noirhftam2824]

why Dronggo stopped making house after killing population expanded???

[@Jackyguknowme]

The tc placement of dreams

[@sanethoughtspreader]

Was anyone else screaming "relic" at Drongo the whole time? There were so many around him and I'm still not finished but he took so long to go for the first 3 and didn't build another monastery. Come on it's free gold! Lol

[@sbla2381]

check out beasty latest nomad ffa

[@Bingusman]

You forgetting or ignoring to upgrade your units to elite on imperial makes me wanna go nuts lol And do your farms under the winery!!!

[@Nil-js4bf]

lol, only way to prevent king donations it to solve AGI and have that be the referee :P

[@TomMJH]

Drongo the deceiver! 😆

[@leek_beens9778]

Byzantine is the best lategame Civil by far.

[@LaimoKing]

why? I think 40%HRE Chapple and ×2relic gold is way more powerful.

[@mr_allba1453]

There siege sucks and all the gold units cost extra gold so there gold heavy and dependent running out of gold is a commen thing with bysantines.

[@-supercatlynet-5194]

@@LaimoKingByzantines have fair build speed bonus too, they don’t need that much gold really, and their military is many times stronger than that of HRE’s.

[@genesisSOC]

What Civs suck late game?

[@TheHiveLife]

​@@genesisSOCMalians, Mongols, and Jean D'Arc off the top of my head. There are other civs that shine a bit brighter in Castle than Imperial or whatever (Japanese, Delhi, etc), but those three specifically fall off pretty hard late game (unless they've been sufficiently oppressive up until that point).

[@jpteknoman]

Watching you not clicking the elite varangian guards for over 10 minutes is so triggering

[@willemnaude1301]

Epic battles!!

[@darkagerush3098]

Only noobs don't make a plan to catch the king. If u can't don't aggro ur just setting yourself up

[@kfeemer]

😂 how's your youtube channel going bud?

[@snoober6690]

is there a reason he didn't upgrade his v guard to elite?

[@sanethoughtspreader]

I thought he didn't either for a second but I believe it's actually the crossbow elite upgrade displaying in the same place as the Varengian guard upgrade because he's selecting all military production buildings which includes both the archery ranges and the barracks. So it displays a blend of both buildings technologies and units, making it look confusing. At least that's what I assume! Could be wrong!

[@ski102426]

Sheepin ain’t easy.