There's A Problem With Sports Talk Shows...

[@SWISHOUT]

These shows are literally for pure entertainment , no one can possibly learn a thing about basketball watching skip debate things with absolutely no logic. Dude’s a human troll who’s popular because he says stats people researched for him to back up his ridiculous takes. Great video yo 🙏🏽

[@cwetz226]

Yea this is big facts it’s a bunch of bs btw big fan here

[@AndrewL209]

Swish x Kenny collab again??

[@henry7486]

Are you also going to do a video on this topic?

[@ganeshs8522]

I agree the only reason I watch these shows cuz some are funny

[@youngboyxaj6692]

Yeah I don’t know why people get so offended when they hear Max,SAS, or Skip say something stupid because at the end of the day they’re just playing characters🤷🏽‍♂️

[@GeneralthekidPlaysMC]

He’s definitely talking about undisputed 😂

[@ramseyhanneman9843]

100%

[@reesericdotci]

And first take

[@calebqueen2090]

Undisputed is a waste of Shannon Sharpe’s personality.

[@juststarting3698]

100%

[@SilentCollector799]

Yep hundo percent

[@olliewhall2043]

Their target audience is literally people who don’t watch games

[@Cmcoluch]

Or box score watchers

[@aguyfromnz537]

So r/nba

[@kayanmehta313]

Yeah it is terrible because sometimes we can’t watch the game and to come and see this crap for info about the game is disappointing

[@leroyrodgers6089]

GotAL2Say he disappeared so I’m guessing he felt bad lol

[@mlkchannel5890]

No caupp

[@Moshuun]

Kenny, it's okay. You're talking about Skip. lol.

[@andye1928]

Kenny when the off-season is wrapping up, can you do like a 30 teams in 30 days type of thing where you say your stance on the team and what their future is looking like

[@michaelwashington4303]

I like the idea

[@sourboy745]

thats fire..

[@chasemathew5170]

This needs more love, I’m all for it

[@alexalleweireldt]

That would be amazing!

[@lucasromy7375]

this idea sounds awesome

[@solido888]

"But he wasn't trailing" -Skip Bayless

[@ianwilliams2413]

Who else watches all three of Kenny’s channels 🙋🏼‍♂️

[@jaredv1169]

🙋🏾‍♀️

[@chicagobulls1232]

Let’s be honest, all of us

[@jayhernandez2586]

He has four

[@Viper-yd8uf]

Me and he has 5 channels lol watch it and his twitch is a channel so he has 5

[@saikatbasak5233]

He has 4 if twitch counts

[@kellyevans3286]

“Fate of the universe on the line I want iggy taking that shot”

[@trashcan2641]

“Whatever colin cowherd said, that was gospel to me” oh god.

[@rswaggz12]

😂

[@trevor5834]

Young Kenny must have had god awful takes if Cowherd was his exclusive media figure head he looked to

[@paulgeorge8151]

@Francis Clark 💀

[@yonaslegesse6535]

TRASH CAN well he will at least get some positive marriage tips...

[@yousoldthebag]

Y’all must be like 10 cuz cowherd show used to hit different but now it sucks

[@drewedwards9471]

I definitely think you're on the right track. You've been uploading talking about basketball nearly every day on this channel and it hasn't gotten outlandish or repetitive or clickbait. Your videos are genuine. I would love to see sports shows go to more of a chillin with the homies vibe or barbershop talk feel instead of what they're doing right now. Keep doing ya thing. Much love and respect

[@bigtik5233]

“He went 8 straight minutes dogging Lebron” Mmmm I wonder who that could be 🤔

[@spen1057]

8 minutes dogging - we know 8 minute sucking- we also know Undisputed at its finest

[@imfrmspace5155]

Could be flight😂😂

[@bigtik5233]

JorgeJR I can’t tell what’s bigger... Lebrons mansion or the space he’s taking up in your head rent free 😂

[@johnvalverde9923]

SKIUP Bayless

[@jeronedavis2449]

SKIIIUUUP

[@he4v7e4gle4]

So I am a international viewer of sports, and I am watching from Germany. There I experience a lot of sports broadcasts every day so ranging from teamsports like football ("soccer" and American football) too Olympic sports or even more obscure things like pool and poker. But I follow the NBA aswell and it has a special sport for me because I play basketball since I was a kid. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, in US sports Media (both NBA and NFL broadcasts) there is a sensationalized approach to the sport, were I find that the talk about it should for some reason generate more clicks than the actual sport event itself. I have the impression that channels like ESPN really messed with there core audience by trying to one up themselves in clikbaiting people. When only watching short term analytics this is best done by making discussions more toxic and more controversial. But at some point there is a problem because not everything has to be controversial in the way that is fought out. I personally like the broadcasts and shows in Europe way more, maybe because of familarity, but I think mostly because they just don't shove the commerciallity in your face as much. So maybe watch, premiere league coverage, LaLiga (if you speak Spanish or don't mind subtitles), or if you want to go on a deep in research then the German Sportschau. (btw. these are no basketball league shows because I don't see that much European basketball, and these are in Germany at least very small networks, so football is more comparable in marked share fanbase etc.). There I think can be found sports broadcasting that is done in a better way. IN HOPE FOR LESS TOXIC TV

[@Arnd]

HE4v7E4glE I'm from Germany too and I totally agree with your opinion. We also have some shows like the us but our shows are more into analyzing and debating what was good or bad. In the us they want to make controversial statements for going viral or more viewers. Maybe for some it’s entertaining but if they are always screaming their opinions to their discussion partner it will be boring after watching it more often. Analyzing it deep always have other outgoings and that’s the special thing about our sport shows. Greetings from the north of Germany

[@Plupert]

As an American who watches a lot of football/soccer. I think the reason why the European shows are so much better is that most of the pundits are ex-professionals, legends in fact, like Hall of Famers in the US. There's a reason why NBA on TNT is widely considered to be the best NBA talk show, and that's because the hosts are legends of the game and have valuable inputs.

[@Arnd]

@David Adiemeli Basketball Ja aber ich glaube genau das ist das spannende an den amerikanischen Shows. Sie polarisieren und entertainen damit. In Deutschland haben wir meist das trockene analysieren. Wann gibt es mal Sportshows worüber ganz Fußballdeutschland zum Beispiel spricht? In den USA wird jede kontroverse Meinung von den Fans aufgenommen und beredet. Manchmal wäre es vielleicht auch lustig mit ein bisschen gehate, aber nur gehate ist das falsche und das sieht man jetzt in Amerika. Es muss ausgewogen sein, meiner Meinung nach.

[@Ryan-Novick]

listening to Kenny is my favorite part of the day. he’s out here carrying quarantine

[@seanthomson4282]

It’s not quarantine anymore

[@agyuyu1705]

Facts

[@Ryan-Novick]

Sean Thomson I’m still In mine. A lot of people are too

[@yungmilkchocolate9929]

A little bit. That was mostly Flight.

[@Aceboogie_13]

Sean Thomson is anybody in quarantine anymore

[@NJohn05]

He’s talking about Shannon and skip 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@joshuabolton3866]

I was looking for this comment.

[@comasali2963]

@@joshuabolton3866 hahahah same

[@alexbarrett3803]

Skip and Shannon*

[@leftenantthunder]

yup. Kellerman and Stephen A aint any better too

[@Isaac-gf3jt]

@@leftenantthunder kellerman is good

[@chaddad4046]

Kenny put it beautifully when he mentioned their formula is growing old and at this point it's obvious. The problem with these talk shows is that they turn sports into drama TV. Most of their "debates" are overflowing with illogical and generalized statements that can be applied to many other team sports. Additionally, most of their takes are scripted and are flat out just for the sake of clicks. They can be funny at times, but I would much rather watch actual basketball analysis than people shouting opinions at each other. The purpose of a debate is to seek truth with respect for those with different opinions, but these shows are only motivated by the money. If you want to know real basketball don't watch these corporations, there are plenty of great independent creators on YT that are miles ahead of ESPN and Fox sports. Examples include, Kenny, Bsolz, Rusty, Funky, thinking basketball, coach daniel, bballbreakdown, swishout, etc.

[@andreaydell5754]

Damn you spitting straight 📠🔥

[@subaruhassufferredenough7892]

Great list. I would add RBTheBreakthrough to the list too!!

[@freakreacts7575]

@@subaruhassufferredenough7892 Am Hoops is nice

[@kinedmm]

He doesn’t have the clutch 🧬

[@jorindal6382]

Legend of winning

[@ggkk8909]

This video is 100% legit. If you just keep talking about who the Goat is everyday, it's annoying.

[@Chessbox09]

It’s on us too. The reason they keep doing it is because we keep watching. I’m pretty sure they would stop discussing it if those videos got less views

[@Zekeee17]

The thing is now, that sports media is aiming towards the people that aren’t really into sports and pull them into giving the media views with clickbait titles instead of actual getting realistic content and debate for sport heads. Just my opinion though

[@brettroach3625]

There’s a couple shows that are good, although they don’t cover basketball often... The Pat McAfee Show is goated

[@princssnasty]

Brett Roach there’s an incredible wealth of high quality basketball podcasts but yeah, most respectable shows on cable only talk about NFL and boring oldhead shit like baseball.

[@TheColeGreenfield]

@@princssnasty yo shut up. People can like more than one sport

[@JayBee2Fya]

Adextr ye but not baseball tho

[@TheColeGreenfield]

@@JayBee2Fya why not? People like you always try and force people to not like a sport

[@polorockstar31]

Kenny: i will never use bad takes to get views Kenny 2030 on espn: Chris paul jr is the next lebron james 👀

[@BlueWorldJ]

Outlandish topics attract viewership like he said. Never forget when Max said he would take iguodala with the human race on the line

[@silk3142]

KidJoshhh lmaoooo

[@nachocheese2823]

Never forget his cliff theory

[@gregtziatzias4747]

With the fate of the universe on the line

[@hansolodolo1672]

Iggy was pretty clutch but not max clutch

[@frinky21]

@@gregtziatzias4747 im taking IGUODALA

[@spiderman4207]

“Person A went 8 straight minutes of dogging lebron” skip skip skip skip skip skip skip skip SKIP

[@אופקטל-ש8מ]

but Skiuuuuuuuuuuuup...

[@jacobniemisto1703]

Thats so fax, even my friends and I debate the goats, but whose this Jordan and Lebron guy everyone knows the true goat debate is Dusty Knox or Dwayne Neal Edit: Its Obviously Dwyane

[@6thman38]

“what’s the word y’all” hits different after a hard day at work, thanks Kenny

[@jayden399]

The “what’s the word y’all” was too angry. Now my day isn’t made

[@NealBones]

Real shit bro. That's why creators like yourself, and pods like TTW and All The Smoke are taking over the game 💯💪

[@Deebo-]

Funny how he said watching Espn while doing my maths homework and I am doing my maths homework rn and watching him.

[@olivershaw4948]

The cycle of life

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

So now u gotta be him in the future and continue the cycle

[@Kelporan]

Title: There’s a problem with Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

[@isaacacquarulo2106]

I’m 16 and I’m about to start this channel called breakdown sports. I have 10 videos recorded and I’m about to start posting. You have been my inspiration man. Thank you so much, keep up the work

[@mrvxg4820]

Good luck to you!

[@yeepikayey]

Goodluck man!

[@isaacacquarulo2106]

crab dude thank you sm 🙏

[@isaacacquarulo2106]

Mr VXG thank you man appreciate it first video should be out in a day or 2

[@matthewrotchford1706]

The best way for a pure basketball stand point is to just speak ur opinion. If ppl just express what they really believe about a topic then u can get the most genuine reactions. U might lose the viewership in some scenarios but u will have the respect of the ppl. I think Steven A. does this very well in most scenarios because he’s not afraid to speak HIS mind and not the producers or anyone who’s trying to feed him “hot takes.” Stay killin the game Kenny

[@cooperland5879]

These are the exact thoughts that I have rn. Led me to recently deciding to drop out of college and instead pursue my own podcasting and website for sports. Haven’t done much yet, but to see someone like you thinking similarly about these sports shows really helps :)

[@treysmith2527]

I am in the spot where you were at right now. My whole life was dedicating myself to watching sports listening to podcast and trying to commentate on my own. I’m turning 16 in three months and I just started to lose interest in these shows. It makes me not want to be a commentator anymore because I don’t want to be the person to not want people to be watching me. I love your videos bro and keep it up. Much love from South Beach.

[@jazavier170]

Tell me why this sounds like The show he’s talking about is undisputed era 😂 Shannon and skip would really debate like this 😭

[@thattallguy9053]

no one cares

[@jazavier170]

@@thattallguy9053 well I mean he did ask for people to comment 😎

[@redmangoose182]

Its true lol. All back and forth about lebron

[@jason615lakers]

Undisputed era? The hell he said nba not wwe😂

[@jazavier170]

@@jason615lakers um you really must not kno abt basketball 😭

[@errk8093]

This is a very applicable concern for many topics in media today... Media ownership, targeted ads, misinformation. These should all be concerns of viewers who should strive to demand better entertainment/ analysis from platforms!

[@applefanboy5706]

Yeah they always talk about the clippers, Lakers, rockets for basketball Cowboys, Browns, Packers for football Nothing for baseball, hockey or any other sport.

[@jakedemedeiros9978]

Bruh they ain’t talking about the rockets 💀 media shits on Houston so much

[@mohammed.badri_]

Ik they never talk about my Seahawks, Mariners, and sixers (it’s complicated)

[@viralskillz1946]

AlmightyJaxx fax

[@viralskillz1946]

AlmightyJaxx no offense tho

[@rvgprodss]

Exactly

[@Isaac-es7bb]

Man you are literally a step above all these trash click baiting tv show hosts I wish they were you g

[@jman652000]

Kenny, just call out Undisputed if you have to lol.

[@frxsted5]

PLZ LOL

[@zackreese7674]

On god

[@zackreese7674]

Really what I came down here and was bouta say

[@enriquegutierrez6161]

I definitely agree with you. At this point in my life me being 23 years old. All the videos I watch on day time sports shows are the ones I already know what they’re going to say, it’s a pointless never ending cycle . In my opinion they’re not targeting us (the people that can make their own assumptions) it’s the people that can’t make up their mind. Which most of those people can be considered ignorant even though I would like to use a different term for them . Love to talk sports with you brother ! Just got a subscription from me !

[@kaiz4335]

This is exactly why I love The Pat Mcafee show

[@jdelgado216]

Most ex player driven channels are really good and fun to listen, JJ Redick podcast for instance is really good

[@bendalsey9732]

The only show I watch daily

[@jayzer150]

Ben Dalsey then you’re missing out. There’s a ton of really good sports podcasts. Might wanna expand ur horizons

[@austinwittig9040]

I 100% agree with you Kenny. I watched Mike and Mike every morning before school and then would come home and turn on ESPN and I stopped watching all of those talk shows years ago. I really enjoy the post game talks you have with us, they have been very refreshing. I hope the big plans you have involve a show of your own on here. I'd watch daily.

[@bengordon9785]

Ye love for example how Embiid goes from 6”10-7”4 depending on the narrative on these shows from day to day smh

[@jackdixon1892]

Lmaoooo I’ve never seen something more true💀

[@caldeacon4547]

Frrrrrrrrr 💀💀

[@cortiz8235]

Akumpo is 102’5 so it don’t matter

[@andrewroyse2555]

We need this video to go viral. Kenny you are 100 percent right. You deserve a job at ESPN or Fox and having your own radio show. Keep putting in the work, you definitely got someone rooting for you!

[@TheFastBreakNBA2]

I'm sick and tired of Skip. He makes no sense

[@spen1057]

Skip and Shannon are in the same boat, they both are stupid but they are entertaining

[@TheFastBreakNBA2]

@@spen1057 Yeah. Especially Skip's takes on Lebron

[@andrewpruitt2k557]

Dead ass

[@3icepwn]

It's like what Mark Cuban says, "He speaks in generalities where there's no substance or facts."

[@fiidisksdiduui1898]

@@spen1057 Shannon is the best analyst on TV. Skip is the worst

[@ishmaelsesay3557]

Agree with u 1000% the formula for these shows is completely predetermined like u know what each side is going to say. What makes it worse is that they blatantly make these claims with no such credibility and with a straight face. It’s so frustrating. Appreciate the video

[@Cecil_]

It’s all for clicks nowadays

[@cadenchristensen5341]

Yea sadly you’re right

[@mohammed.badri_]

Bro especially the goat debate first take does it EVERY EPISODE

[@joeyrodriguez7210]

MC Stove they literally did it today too lmao it’s basically a filler conversation when they got nothing to talk about

[@oj978]

It's always been that way tbh

[@yonaslegesse6535]

Joey Rodriguez then they wonder why players don’t want to play with Lebron. AD could drop 50 and the discussion tomorrow will be “will Jordan allow a teammate of his to score 50 on his watch” smh 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@joshmishra6422]

there was this show called The Starters, which had like the nicest dudes ever who were so fun to watch (JE Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, Leigh Ellis) but then it got cancelled

[@jamesdavidgray]

Yo they are still around as No Dunks, they go live on YT and release podcasts. Still the same awesome takes and humor

[@joshmishra6422]

James Gray oh really that's great but eh their show was really fun they had cool like edits n stuff it wasn't a podcast

[@thatboimitchi2761]

They always revolve around one topic then run it till it’s dry lol😂

[@yonaslegesse6535]

ThatBoiMitchi 2 they’re looking for new ways to discuss if Lebron is better than Jordan and if Brady is declining

[@Hatingonyall2023]

And that topic has been LeBron James for the past decade and nothing else 😂

[@ZeekRobinson]

Small personal channels like yours are the antidote to what all these corporations have become. It’s the nature of the beast. They can’t afford to lose viewers. That can’t risk not making hot takes. That can’t not talk about MJ vs Lebron because they’ll lose money and now they have built up such a HUGE business any kind of change to what has been the foundation of these shows would only make them do worse. Let me ask you this, do you think they ever want to stop debating the GOAT conversation, really? It gets casual fans involved it, and it captures the attention of all basketball fans because like you said we LOVE debating. Y’all have a huge opportunity to fill in the gap we all want. I’m so happy I found your channel bro.

[@MPMCFC]

I love how the nba finals, nhl finals, mlb postseason, all of this going on but hey, let’s talk about football on a tuesday

[@Ch538Q]

Lmao

[@yonaslegesse6535]

Facts. I want to get into mlb and maybe know some of the best players but instead I hear about why the cowboys lost or if Lebron is close to Jordan everyday

[@brandonmitchell6627]

////// cuz they talk about MNF dummy🤦🏾‍♂️

[@cade579]

I mean football has a bigger audience

[@im_waffles2920]

@@yonaslegesse6535 if you want to get into baseball check out Fuzzy, Jomboy Media, GiraffeNeckMarc, and Foolish Baseball. They are all great at making baseball vids.

[@CuddleBuddee]

Maaan the KZbin algorithm finally got something right and suggested this video and your monologue to me. Bro, I have had this feeling for awhile now. Since quarantine, I have consumed even more sports and media content than usual, which was already more than average, and I see exactly what you're talking about. They have someone with a take, they have a heel(similar to the "Bad Guy" the audience hates in wrestling), add in the hot take and they go from there. All click-bait centric. Thank you for voicing what I believe a lot of us see and are getting tired of. I hope you can pull off entertaining sports content without trying to go the provocateur route or bias route so many of these sports media institutions have gone all in for.

[@liljoshcapalot2336]

Yea u talking bout undisputed skip and Shannon they both interesting😭😭

[@caseys.1405]

They suck what ru talking about. Skip is a racist and Shannon is not a good analyst

[@liljoshcapalot2336]

@@caseys.1405 I said they are both interesting with there debates which they are

[@Trey376]

I knew i wasn't the only one

[@zayzay2363]

@@caseys.1405 how is skip racist?

[@Adotch]

Casey S. How is skip racist 😂 he dumb but not racist

[@diamondpug1210]

Last time I watched a daily sports show was The Starters

[@jamesdavidgray]

They are currently on KZbin and record live on the No Dunks channel and release podcasts too

[@kortstuever1479]

That show is OP

[@bo.213]

Every time Kenny uploads I just get so excited man. Thank you kenny

[@bernardocruz6160]

I think pat mcafee has the best reliable sports show even though it’s mainly football

[@andrewrichardson441]

He has insane clickbait sometimes tho on KZbin

[@bernardocruz6160]

@@andrewrichardson441 that is true but most of his shows are actually pretty good

[@zachl2965]

Love that Pat sometimes genuinely talks basketball to the best of his ability while other shows like PMT brazenly skip over it like nobody cares about hoops

[@johnvalverde9923]

I love his show

[@shangojackson60]

I really like Pat, even when hes out of his sport element you can tell he takes the time to try and learn so he can at least be competent in the subject

[@javiermarquez9676]

Man Kenny really out here uploading videos every day, respect the king

[@christopherkagoo]

Man I used to watch those shows too and I just can't bring myself to do it anymore cuz it feels like so many of the arguments aren't logical. What you're doing here is really filling that void and I think if you keep it up, ppl will continue to take notice. Good stuff my man

[@emmettday]

I agree Kenny i do find most of it entertaining especially about my Cowboys and Celtics but it is opinion based shows that are looking for attention and ignoring the fact that their loosing respect from outsiders like us but I think your point is absolutely valid

[@antonio-chaurand-sportspod]

You’re not lying man, a lot of these shoes consist of guys saying crazy things to her the views talking about the show. I want to get into sports journalism once I graduate college so like you, I want to find out what the next best thing will be for sports media. Your takes are genuine and legitimate, knowing your character I know that’s not gonna change. Keep up the good work bro

[@BobeBryant93]

I really liked the OG formula for SportsNation. Michelle Beadle was the perfect counter to Cowherd, real dialogue was spoken most of the time, and all the fan-driven games and stuff they played on the show were really fun. Such a good blend of fun and sports, i feel like that's what we're missing now. Plus a lot of personalities now just flat out suck or aren't entertaining

[@justindavis5752]

Kenny, I love your videos man. 2k, trade articles, sitting down and talking to us, all of it. I'm in the same situation, I grew up the same and really don't watch many sports shows now. My dream is also sports broadcasting. Today's shows are just controversy for controversy. Im more of an analytical and data driven sports fan and would love to see a show like you're talking about. Your videos are great man!

[@farhanhafiz1924]

Bro remember "the starters". I was so sad when they cancelled them. I always felt like they actually gave their full and honest opinions not the hot takes you see on tv now.

[@NealBones]

Facts. I miss them

[@jamesdavidgray]

Yo they go live on youtube and release podcasts under the name No Dunks, go check them out.

[@xanklexz]

Wow tbh Kenny what you said on debating as a whole applies to a lot of things rn in the world. Keep preaching bro. Be moderate.

[@felipearteaga5282]

Bro I actually prefer athlete ran talk shows, they are more honest and feel like you understand them like men...Still I would like to be in TV talking basketball

[@yonaslegesse6535]

Jay I was about to say because even the athletes push their own narratives such as pierce, perk, and rose especially when it comes to the Goat debate

[@pelchluke8984]

Pat mcafee show hits

[@samplayz2366]

I respect your opinion, but I prefer Kenny ran shows

[@amadorluis2008]

I mean Shannon is a player it’s just skip who is mostly delusional

[@yousoldthebag]

PelchLuke ehh he’s ok he isn’t very funny to me and the people he brings on are very boring

[@JamesWilliams-uq1pm]

You are so right about the debates on some shows. I don’t watch undisputed anymore because it has gotten ridiculous now, and a childish arguments. The got debates also. Good video young man.

[@Travis_Phillips]

He talking about Skip Bayless for sure 😂😂😂

[@amadorluis2008]

Yea but undisputed is mad funny I can’t help but watch it

[@UNKNOWN-kp1bi]

Sad af skip gotta hate on bron fa ratings🤦🏿‍♂️

[@QDJW]

The small mid day shows on epsn are genuinely entertaining because no one is yelling. Im talking about shows like Around the horn and Pardon the interruption.

[@dariansopka4758]

The only thing fun about that is when Steven A and Max yell at each other

[@calebbarden4422]

I abandoned tv sports talk shows. They ramble on about nothing it seems when there are better more real platforms like you where you dive through the bush rather then dance around it for an hour to generate watch time. You’re real and awesome to listen to Kenny, and I feel like I get more out of a minute of your video than an hour of tv sports. Bless🙏

[@jcgang6844]

5:53 ConGRatULations you just descibed Undisputed lmao

[@hockeyfan1799]

At the end of the day, I think there's something for everyone. You highlighted one specific show that prioritizes a certain audience that likes debates and ripping on outlandish takes. ESPN has several segments that each have something to offer in my opinion. The Jump doesn't really have takes but they bring on NBA players and sometimes legends like Scottie Pippen to just talk about basketball like civilized people. Jalen and Jacoby is a radio show and they also just talk about it rather than make up opinions for the sake of getting clicked on. ESPN also has its own debate style show in First Take, but it's much more genuine than Undisputed, making it actually entertaining in my opinion. They do recycle topics, but it's not like everyone watches every single episode so it makes sense to rinse and repeat the topics that garner the most views. I think the key is to mix it up and have different segments that each appeal to the audience in a different way.

[@paytonwoolace4653]

You should react to “making the case” series, it’s about making the goat case for different players

[@rockrocker100]

Im glad these nba players started podcasting because that's some REAL insight into NBA basketball, not drowned by GOAT debates or player A is above Player B, but actual knowledge about the game. Man I watched Kobe on Darius Miles/QRich podcast and he's breaking down how to slip by screens and how that improved his game, like thats REAL talk by a Legend... And when it comes to analysis, theres Kenny and many great youtubers who actually research and provide good analysis. Like kenny said, nothing wrong with actual debate, but the click bait/nonsense takes are outdated as fuck. Support small youtubers (compared to TV) and player podcasts with actual insight. Keep it up fam

[@alithegreat2479]

Skip is a bozo, at least Shannon calls out lebron when he dosnet do well, he doesn’t try to cover it

[@isaiaharmand8841]

Rarely

[@jjb33083]

These are my fav vids of the Legendary Kenny man. You don't have to send a dime, your time is valuable enough.

[@vinceisalive_]

"we should stop talking about who the goat is everyday" yeah thats true because we all know that it's Julius Randle.

[@antoniowatson5914]

You’re a 100% correct. Hope you guys are able to give us something pure, something different, with your own formula. Hope you guys do well.

[@amadorluis2008]

“Don’t do that SKIUUUUPPPPP that’s ole GOAT JAMES” I’m sorry but the show is to hilarious not to watch

[@ethanyu3904]

I don’t even care if their fake. Their still entertaining asl

[@anthony9327]

Yea it’s funny I don’t even listen to the points anymore

[@ayk0wsk11]

ITS MY TURN

[@dank_frank2580]

Shannon is the stereotypical cool uncle that your parents don’t let you hang around because they fear he might influence you. Skip is just insufferable

[@landoncrumpton5009]

*too

[@ryanstoerger5432]

Kenny, we need more passionate, honest people like you. Not just from a basketball standpoint but in general. That’s what makes the world go round.

[@nateguajardo9049]

A “The Ramble” show with you on it would be dope

[@brianflowers9650]

Man this is a major form of catharsis, especially when you talk about the GOAT debate. Thanks for this video.

[@konkaiwa515]

There is no way skip bayless actually feels how he claims to about lebron. He literally just hates to play a character some of his points are completely dumbfounded

[@konkaiwa515]

@El-ahrairah I feel like at first, wherever he got his start, it was asked of him to be a lebron hater, and as time went on and he gained notoriety for being that, he or whatever management in charge decided to keep going with it regardless of what show he’s on. It’s kinda like his brand now

[@GiantFlamingClasher]

konkai wa i think unc shay said skip really does believe what he says about lebron. but ion how much of it is pure hatred or just for show.

[@youngboyxaj6692]

El-ahrairah Yeah he is in complete control but it’s his brand, it’s been built. He can’t all of a sudden call Lebron the GOAT, because one there’s no tension when Shay and Skip debate. No tension, no clicks, no cklick... no money, no money...no show

[@babymylo4909]

21 and I always watches ESPN and Nick/Cartoon network/Disney channel in the morning. Loved the old ESPN screen format w the topics on the left. Miss the old ESPN

[@WaffleDoffleDoxii]

“i don’t want to be that guy and i’ll never be that guy” *ad plays* i’m just kiddin kenny ily :3

[@rundamic3373]

😂😂😂😂

[@vba1000]

I love it when I learn about basketball through shows (or realistically, KZbin videos). The most interesting commentary of the Finals so far was the commentators explaining the pistol action. Love learning; don't want to spend more time talking about a dude that retired 20 years ago.

[@trashcan2641]

7:00 this was def Skip and Shannon

[@amadorluis2008]

Yea lol but it’s so funny

[@ChaserBiff]

well said kenny, i completely agree, this is all purely for entertainment. i also think on the other side of things that there are people out there that watch these shows when there are really bad takes to make fun of those takes or to try to see where they’re coming from with these horrible takes and try to understand it.

[@joelproctor7032]

He's definitely talking about Skip Bayless when he's talking about the guy hating lebron, Skip is a certified Lebron hater lmao

[@isaiaharmand8841]

And Shannon is A Lebron sucker so anything he does he defend him there's flaws on both of them

[@mrdectown]

@@isaiaharmand8841 he is a Bron Stan but at least he is willing to admit fault and actually gives a valid reason for his hate and keeps the same energy win or lose. Skip just hates just for ratings. No one dislikes someone that much.

[@Heart_ken01]

Rusty said this on Twitter but why can't the NBA Basketball community come together and just do their own? That would be so Clutch

[@lukedavis21]

“They had me for feven years” 😂😂😂

[@markmccormick4354]

Kenny! I don't comment too often, and only recently started watching you during the quarantine, but honestly now I watch your videos about basketball takes now all the time instead of first take, undisputed, get up etc because you're more real and more into the Xs and Os like you said. I think its admirable you've followed your dream and made these great videos. Even though your not on the big networks, you've made it in my books cause of the quality you put out. Keep up the great work man!

[@yahhikillu]

the worst one is the starters, its so tacky and forced, especially the opening catchprases lol

[@andrewlarson5265]

Don't change Kenny we love the way you are

[@LegendaryEA]

I swear every week its a bron v jordan debate even during the offseason lol

[@supermeza6403]

This guys is speaking facts!! I didn’t get really into basketball untill like 2 years ago and wanted to get more informed so I watch espn first take they were all capping so I ever watched again

[@bradleycombs2626]

I went through the same process. We are the same age and I used to stay up late watching SportsCenter almost every night, cause I wasn’t ever getting up early. But once I started watching the games and thinking about it I realized half way through High School where I realized they were saying stuff for the ratings. I still watched clips of Top 10 and I would watch when my fav team did something big but I stopped watching everyday and honestly once I could do stuff on my own I really didn’t need to have those talking heads tell me stuff. Honestly it turned from me watching these discussions to having them with my friends and the debating was happening at school or at practice. But like you I might watch some clips here and there but I just can’t ever get back in to those day time talk shows no matter who it is.

[@danielstokes2083]

“He wasn’t trialing” SKIP BAYLESS IN THE HOUSEEE

[@johnoneal5640]

I agree 100% I’m 16 been watching these talk shows for 2 years now and it’s only 2 guys I can say that actually say wat they believe to answer your question Idk what the solution is because like you said debates are the entertainment factor and there would be much less debates with everyone being honest but sense you are reading your the goat ‼️you need a talk show I consider you a commentator and analysis and I have you at #1 right above Steven A keep doing what your doing 💯

[@424-i7r]

Kenny for real is the only basketball talk show I need❤️

[@sheepje4288]

Kenny, I so agree with you. One thing you haven't mentioned is that 1 of the panelists has to love LeBron, and bring him into every single debate (and mention coming back from 3-1 at least once an episode). About the future of these shows, I think the problem is being stuck to a schedule. Sometimes you have a big sports news day, sometimes there's nothing. But all these current shows have their 30min/1h/2h etc timeslot that they have to fill. I see the solution that new media can bring is being flexible with your show, like the length of the show, and certain segments. It is why the podcasts these days are so popular. They are on a somewhat fixed schedule, but have a lot more room to flex. Also just invite P or DMills for an outlandish take if you ever need one :P

[@jacevillegas3891]

i knew what show he was talking about right when he said “8 straight minutes of hating lebron”

[@UptempZ]

Whatever you and the guys are in the process of making, I'm sure it'll be amazing!

[@nathanbrewer6781]

I like PTI but that’s about it. They’re really successful without making outlandish claims

[@eddiepollard681]

yeah by far the best show on ESPN

[@amircoffeyscafe5430]

Yea that’s my favorite show by far

[@JusRed48]

I like PTI because they're actually discussing and having dialogue and have to be concise because of the time and it's not just over the top overblown shouting with no real discussion.