What's Wrong With Sports Talk Shows On TV?

[@susanmaggiora4800]

“The focus is rating rather than making quality content.” This right here...

[@thatreddude7700]

Susan Maggiora exactly . . . Not realizing that quality and ratings go hand in hand

[@osu5inarow]

Remember when they used to actually show sports.

[@davidminor4213]

@@thatreddude7700 I respectfully disagree. I wish I could agree with you tho. Look at how many watch WWE and 99% know it's fake.

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

@@davidminor4213 The WWE is an anomaly to pretty much anything. And even then, they haven't put up great numbers in ages.

[@asiberiantiger188]

@@davidminor4213 Doesn't mean there's no quality to it. Sure it's scripted but it's entertaining as hell and the actors are all really athletic which should count for something in the quality department imho

[@aiwash2766]

Zach has integrity something every other show doesn’t

[@andrewcrist3249]

This is basically why I started watching you, I'm English and couldn't deal with how you guys do sports coverage in the states.

[@jeverly]

Yeah ESPN has been trash for a while

[@yunan9610]

How's it in the UK?

[@philipsode4168]

@@yunan9610 More honest and authentic but also less entertaining and dramatic.

[@unnanointedonesufi]

@@yunan9610 very boring it feels like I'm watching the news. But lmao lately they been adopting the American methods of drama and hot takes and it's honestly been better 😂😂

[@eakintunde84]

@@unnanointedonesufi So, you'd rather be entertained than actually get some good sports coverage? Isn't good sports coverage entertaining as is?

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

Lets see: All of them follow the same format: two loud, dynamic personalities who try to force points across using emotions rather than logic for the purpose of creating "controversy". Also, 50%+ of every program being about the Dallas Cowboys during NFL season is beyond annoying.

[@kekelaward]

Or the constant bleating about the Red Sox and Yankees during baseball season.

[@joeldykman7591]

Lets do a show of Undisputed during any random point of the year shall we? Hour long show so theres roughly 45 minutes of acutal airtime between commercials. 12 minutes discussing Labron, 10 minutes discussing the Lakers, 16 minutes discussing Cowboys, and 7 minutes discussing whatever sports news is relevant to the news cycle i.e. Superbowl punditry. Rinse and repeat until the end of time.

[@rodzila8314]

@@joeldykman7591 you forgot the "are the Patriots done?" segment

[@joeldykman7591]

@@rodzila8314 oh sorry, you're right.

[@MisterMomotaro1996]

"I make enough money" That's the point, isn't it? "Enough money" doesn't exist for corporations.

[@Mark_Knight]

Not true. Woke go broke

[@felipedibo7795]

Man, even though everyone can click on your video and hear this, it seems like you spoke to me. I'm about to be a freshman in journalism, and what you just said is my goal: to be free to speak what I think, to speak when I want, and to be the most honest I can be to myself. You are a inspiration to many young ones like me to do their thing, rather them subject themselves to lie. Long post, but short story is: keep up the good fight zac

[@dabearslive9605]

Felipe Dibo Do your thing, man. Be honest and people will value you what you say and you will gain a following. Best of luck.

[@bschmitke]

Idk if you went to a vocal coach, but you sound so different now than you did 10+ weeks ago. This is a compliment. Love your work!!

[@kevandowns6623]

The best sports content is on youtube. SOS, Brett Kollmann, Set the Edge, and Samuel Gold among others are all so much more informative and entertaining to me than mainstream sports media

[@DingoDIDeatmybaby]

Those guys became popular because one, they make quality content and analysis, and two, espn stopped analyzing the game and started producing debate shows that push bs narratives and storylines.

[@Whatdoievenwriteherebruh]

@@DingoDIDeatmybaby espn is bullshit! ,first take is bullshit! And that bitch molly makes it hard to even watch a min of the video!

[@Whatdoievenwriteherebruh]

Those all channels break down the game ,Brett has more knowledge about football then some nfl coaches(I believe) , but still you can't argue with skip and shannon as they're great on their own way ,Brett, set the edge, these are channels which provides you the information and knowledge while those talk show especially undisputed provides you entertainment (I haven't seen in my entire life the chemistry which they both have ,skip and shannon are just great to watch no matter what they talk about)

[@flaviodemoura6139]

FlemLo Raps is also very good. Dude speaks with good thought and insight into subjects

[@juliomendoza2355]

This right here is one of the main reasons why I truly love SOS I love that even if I don't agree with you, you speak from what YOU believe You don't lie or make outrageous takes just for the sake of it So again THANK YOU ZAC

[@mikeygee7]

I used to like sports. Than I grew up. I see adult friends get upset and elated, like true emotions, if “their “ team wins or loses. It’s absolutely shocking to see how brainwashed people are.

[@wzg8804]

Let's agree on one thing: Molly Qerim is so annoying.

[@Kenzoah]

🤝

[@scottlapier4797]

...but hot

[@espiritucallejero9127]

@@scottlapier4797 theres alot of hot women in this world that arent annoying. Dont give a damn if she's hot, thats just me 🤷🏾‍♂️ That chick from good morning football, Key Adams, actually like her takes, like her much more.

[@Powerlifter83]

I already thought this...but this just confirms it. You’re absolutely correct Zac.

[@davidkircher4072]

This is a big reason why I listen to your podcast. Keep up all the good work.

[@demarcusedwards32]

This was great. Love your humility and integrity

[@demarcusedwards32]

But make sure you can still get your bag sir! 💰

[@YasilTorvanna]

Stephen A turns everything into the race card. Skip interupts and says mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm so much its inoying. Thats why.

[@jeffscuderi8662]

Smith's a turd

[@experienciape4711]

I’ve been following you dude .. 1) the way you talk (clean) I can play the videos at work . No screaming. / no madness 2)genuine Keep the good work

[@TrippyCommentaries]

Wow you were behind the scenes at Gameday? Interesting insight!

[@beardedtankgaming7630]

Been here since 5k subs, keep grinding Zac we are behind you bud.

[@chriswahl1337]

Same. *checks* WOW, he's at 126k now?! Congratulations are in order! 🍾

[@starkiller578]

I'd say skip and Shannon actually agree more than First take

[@jeffscuderi8662]

Shannon is highly annoying as is Steven a Smith horrible voices overly loud mugging for camera awful

[@matthewduran5709]

I’m so glad that I found you about 3 months ago Keep up the good work!!!!!!!

[@joshespedahl443]

Best part about your channel is how rapidly it is growing and how easy it may be for you to have YOUR OWN SHOW! I give it one two years tops! I'm rooting for you now and always thanks for being an active and genuine youtuber.

[@elliotolsson5401]

One of the best talk shows. Love your thoughts and a specially how you express yourself. Keep up the good work /A fan from Sweden

[@jonforpresident04]

Zac, your honesty is the No. 1 reason I keep watching your content. Never change man, you are awesome!

[@herbie2herb540]

I agree I hate them fake ass sports shows

[@Whatdoievenwriteherebruh]

We watch those shows because we like the personality which those people have , the chemistry! I watch undisputed because the amount of chemistry they both have is just amazing(skip and shannon) ,I watch your video's for "knowledge " while i watch undisputed for their chemistry!/entertainment They are good in their own way ,any guy who loves sports ,loves to see people talk about sports,and especially when someone who is well respected in that sport(shannon) !

[@damianm-nordhorn116]

Have you been in contact with other sports KZbinrs like the 'QB school' or 'That's good sports'? All of you have different approaches to football, but I believe you guys could team up occasionally and boost each other to achieve a strong enough degree of monetization for each of you to make a living AND maybe develop your own combined QUALITY football/sports show.

[@stxfxn]

I randomly stumbled upon your videos and liked you but after seeing this I like you even more.

[@dj300chops2]

Remember a few years back when ESPN had that sports anchor contest show? One of segments Each contestant had to take a side on whatever topic. That was ESPN basically showing the world how there shows are structured.

[@kingpowerlifting5985]

Zac has more integrity than all of sports media combined

[@samueltractorton2088]

That's why this show rocks! We appreciate real, great show as usual Zac!

[@ishwill2]

You also arent afraid to admit when you're wrong unlike the rest of these clowns on tv

[@CampDefianceH5]

Like Max and his cliff theory lol

[@ericcalica7369]

Love your channel Zac. You hit the nail right on the head. The main problem with 24hr Sports Radio/TV talk shows (and 24hr News Channels as well) is content. How do you fill all that time with pertinent, interesting content? Well, the pertinent part is hard. So, make it interesting by manufacturing "hot takes" and over the top contrarian opinions, and especially manufacturing debates between the broadcasters and/or guests. I don't think all shows and all broadcasters are guilty of this. But, ESPN is a major offender. I think the viewers have caught on due to their sagging ratings. Keep doing what you do.

[@IchigoKurosakitheSalvation]

My man just asked the trillion dollar question... This video deserves all the views and likes

[@Potandthekettle]

Did you ever see that Dream Job show? They had a competition for a new anchor for ESPN and in that competition I saw them have the contestants take a side on an issue, pro or con, it didn't matter. It didn't matter what their ACTUAL opinion was. It only mattered HOW they expressed that "side" of the argument. It only mattered how convincing they were. They unwittingly showed exactly what is wrong with ESPN

[@hurlicane56]

Biiiiiiiiiiiig big thumbs up on this video. I can't stand the dishonesty on the major sports talk shows.

[@bryanv4835]

Love this. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@JoycenatorGaming]

Literally the only person I can watch in mainstream media now is Chris Simms. I loved watching him and Adam Lefkoe when they were with Bleacher Report because it was just 4+ hours a week of their honest, educated takes. Ever since finding guys like you, Brett Kollman, Marcus from PFF, etc I’ve finally been able to listen to someone else’s takes again. Thanks for putting out quality, bro. We need what you bring to the table

[@RyanSmith-hf7gc]

I really like Good Morning Football and I watch some Colin Cowherd clips on KZbin but I can't stand First Take etc

[@itachi1403]

I find Colin cowherd to be the worst of them. Because he doesn't have anyone to counter him he just talks shit all day. But I'm with you on the gmfb part

[@dj300chops2]

I stopped watching first take long ago and I honestly thought it was because I didn’t like Skip, but oddly I watch skip and Shannon all the time and realized that I really don’t like Stephen A. anytime he has other people to argue with.

[@nelsonpineda8047]

Good morning football is the shit First take is people talking shit, cowgirl fans New York knicks getting Zion KD And kyrie molly is hot Asf but annoying as hell. I’m surprised jalen rose can put up with her 😂😂😂

[@itsNRC]

FIRST TAKE SUCKS. COLLIN IS MASSIVELY MISUNDERSTOOD I FW HIM. SKIP & SHANNON WENT DOWNHILL BUT I LIKE IT STILL NOT AS MUCH BUT YA I AGREE

[@Tim_Leclair]

This is why Around the Horn and PTI are the only shows on ESPN i make time to watch every day. Especially Tony and Wilbon. They’ll agree if they agree, they’ll disagree if they disagree, but they always give their honest opinions and focus on delivering the news in full above anything. PTI is what most sports shows should try to be more like.

[@adielyanez5236]

Ur the best for keepin it real pimpin i love keep it up On ur side all day

[@Alexexe_]

Keep up the good work Zach, your show is of the best quality and it shows keep eating my dog

[@rjwohlman]

Right on man! Keep on kicking ass!

[@tomcaranovic9423]

Man don't hate on uncle shannon and drip bayless they are entertaining and thats all they need to be

[@christopherrichardson1730]

Best video ever made. Keep it up Zach.

[@jdelgado216]

Man I know you are more a footbal guy but I´d really like to find a channel about basketball with similar content, watching First Take sometimes is punishment. You keep it honest, neutral and well explained which makes it great

[@scottbryant6349]

Hey Zach, you should do a film analysis of Jacoby Brissett. Lots of draft projections have the Colts taking a QB and the fan base are pretty split on whether or not he's starting talent. Keep up the great work, love what you're doing.

[@jeffscuderi8662]

Brissett tanked late NFL might have figured him out.

[@jcorbo7518]

Well said Zach!

[@curtthechameleon]

Speakin truth. Love it man. At least there's 1 of you. Haha

[@yunan9610]

I've stopped watching TV years ago. Now it's just for the sports games airings

[@davidminor4213]

Zac, I wouldn't mind if you were to collaborate with another podcaster that disagrees with you. It actually would be nice to see a genuine debate

[@TheFranchiseCA]

It's more work to collaborate well than to work solo, but it can produce something great if you have good rapport and each contribute to the other.

[@trevonpernell0814]

Makes me genuinely believe that what all Stephen A., First Take, and ESPN altogether say about my Cowboys is pushed by Disney executives.

[@0neChubbyBunny]

Pat Mcafee kinda spilled the beans on that. He said He has to have a Cowboys segment on his show. I remember one week when the Cowboys lost he literally said, "Cowboys sucked this weekend. There that is my Cowboys segment."

[@tomfoolery-chan]

Well no shit. That tends to happen when your team is a dynasty. Do you expect people to just ignore you when you have a mediocre season?

[@trevonpernell0814]

@@tomfoolery-chan YES. People ignored the Colts!

[@Peter0531]

So many networks try to create these outrageous stories for the clicks

[@mayurbhakta758]

You are authentic.

[@cameroncorbin6952]

The world has an absolute abundance of smart guys giving smart analysis on any sport you can think of. First take and Undisputed are simply meant to be entertaining. There isn't anything wrong with that.

[@thebigmick1348]

Problem is, they aren't analysts. They are just TV personalities. Even former players don't know what they're talking about because most of them just wing it.

[@profjubjubs]

Love this channel

[@DenOndeMister]

It's called Sportstainment. It's entertainment formed around sports.

[@tubesox000]

Best sports insight content is on the net no doubt.

[@isaacf35]

Make this the channel trailer lol

[@fXInn14]

I personally watch the clips on KZbin (don’t have espn in Ireland) but I mostly watch them for entertainment I feel like you can get good takes on first take and undisputed in my opinion the problem is when a topic comes up they have a set narrative on and throw all logic out the window and many times make hypocritical points to try fit their side of the story they’ve become known for That’s why i tend to watch independent media for when I want serious discussions throughout about Sports.

[@Slaughtermayne]

Zach, I can't wait till you are on tv with you're own network or show. You'll take over once that happens

[@cristiantrujillo1288]

This is why I love strong opinion sports!!

[@Mark_Knight]

Reasonable isn't sexy... Great line.

[@Edmundrs3rd]

They make up rumours and cite 'sources' which are complete bullshit.

[@deborahlagarde7182]

And then you have consensus...God forbid some sports media pundit actually said something outside the box...Keep it up Zac!

[@hellofwiend1110]

I'm glad you don't even consider making that clickbait crap. You'll continue to grow if you keep doing what you're doing, and people will actually respect you. That's so much better and more sustainable than the typical TV network sports show formula

[@justinschexnayder8485]

Zach deserves all the success he's about to get

[@chublub4982]

your show is the only sports analysis show that i watch

[@RyanArcane]

I’ll come on the show and argue with you for ratings sake

[@jakubwidlarz]

My idea of hell: Watching those two shows side by side.

[@Alduinx37]

Hey Zac, when are you going to do the Drew Lock, Haskins and Jones analisis now that the season is over?

[@jeffscuderi8662]

Jones is by far best so far

[@stoozdee]

You wanna get tore up before noon on a weekday? Watch First Take and drink every time someone starts their sentence with, “Look...” or “Listen...” alcohol poisoning is assured.

[@rafaeltorres2460]

Filler subjects...Lebron vs Jordan, Brady vs Every other quarterback...Durant, Kyrie, Harden...

[@thenorsman3438]

I remember years ago Skip Bayless was arguing greatest return man of all Time. And the two debating him were arguing for Hester and this was when Hester was averaging 1 return for every 13.5 punts or something like that. Anyways long story short it felt like Bayless was choking on the words he was saying as if he didn't believe what he was.sayin.

[@SheLuvsBacon]

The first half of this video pretty much sums up why I enjoy this podcast. It’s not reality tv like first take and skip and Shannon.

[@fbbfan9476]

I wonder truly how many college football broadcasters hated the BCS and believe the play could expand up to 16 heck maybe even 64

[@poeskey]

I like Shannon, he does seem to try his best to give his honest opinion, and overall he's a pretty good guy. Those other 3 idk, skips a huge Dallas fan so there's always bias there and I don't watch first take (maybe like a highlights clip, but it's usually mostly yelling).

[@organizedconfusionkd]

These shows are 100% for ratings and they contradict themselves consistently.

[@Kenzoah]

Well they use strong takes because people usually don’t want to see two people agree

[@BurlASSque]

I hate how they're general sports commentators rather then specialized in one sport. It leads to them basing their opinion on highlights rather then actually watching games.

[@ibraheemrao8434]

Remember when SAS thought Haskins was more of a runner.

[@chriswahl1337]

And that Hunter Henry was gonna threaten the opposing team even though Hunter Henry was on IR all that season...

[@ibraheemrao8434]

@@chriswahl1337 in 2018 when the chargers played at Kansas City the next morning he called them the San Diego chargers on TV.

[@dantheman8152]

It’s all about ratings

[@GabeMacDonnell]

The arguments are often based around subjective definitions. Parker & Broussard were yelling for 15 minutes about whether Zion is a superstar, but they were talking past each other. Deliberate or not, when you know the trick it gets old fast. I follow on podcasts, & some of these shows are unlistenable- guys yelling about nothing, nobody listening.

[@RandolfLycan]

I simply can't watch those 2 heads getting together to talk matter and anti matter. Btw I never thought I could dislike Stephen A. Smith more until he started talking about the UFC 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mikiec6894]

Those shows are also kind of destroying how people view sports! The fake narrative that they use on those shows come with a fanatic & bias opinions” The sad part is that some of the athletes especially the ones these shows are fan of, they follow the fake narrative too! I agree with you, soon they will come to an end cause others will water it down”

[@generalstewie]

PTI is the only sports debate show I watch - 30 mins of the main headlines and that’s it. Doesn’t seem as outlandish than first take and undisputed.

[@Kingcob7]

No one would watch their trash if they weren't on a massive platform.

[@tasan215]

I can't stomach First Take at all

[@bentilbrook7215]

It's the WWE, SMACKDOWN and RAW. American's love that shit, the people who love this are wrestling fans who love drama and big stories.

[@ubon11]

Those shows are entertaining, but it is obvious that they don’t always believe the side that they are advocating for.

[@tomfoolery-chan]

That's the whole point of debate though. It's not a matter of things being fake. Sure, it may be inauthentic but debating is something that's a thing outside of sports. People literally compete in debates where they might have to defend something they don't believe in but they still take the time to make a good case for whatever side they're debating. When the whole point of a show is to be a platform for debate then what is the issue? Skip and Stephen's shows are essentially this. If you want to just hear about what's happening in the world of sports then just watch sportscenter or something. But when you're looking for something that sounds more like an argument at a barber shop or bar, where hot takes tend to happen in the first place, then watch these two shows. Simple as.

[@mezmerszn8894]

That’s the reason I enjoy solo talk shows like, Steven a smith radio show when it was around, Colin cowherd show, and you

[@jeffscuderi8662]

Smith's awful

[@mezmerszn8894]

Jeff Scuderi his radio show wasn’t.

[@jeffscuderi8662]

@@mezmerszn8894 ok I think his heads bigger now likes attention too much only thing I like about him is boxing comments

[@ibraheemrao8434]

Zach keeps it real.

[@MartymarMcFly]

That’s why Pat Mcafee is the goat. He believes every word he says. And he’s entertaining.

[@moonis2317]

i know this might be a dumb question... but why do you wear headphones while recording?thanks!

[@JG-tu1hd]

What do you think about Chris Simms and his takes very similar to Zac?

[@Dmoney8720]

Max won’t agree with anything. He doesn’t even have a plan or argument ready. He just makes shit up on the fly.

[@jakevengraitis5000]

How do people ask him these questions that he sometimes features?

[@StrongOpinionSports]

patreon.com/zacshomler

[@TheFranchiseCA]

If you donate money, whether a little or a lot, you can submit a question for Ask Zac. He promises to read at it with his eyeballs. Some appear on the show and some don't, but they all get read.

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

Shannon Sharpe has the perspective of a former player....

[@jonjonas2528]

The problem with sports talk tv is that they need to hire white men right now and have white men actually on sports talk tv !