Great video, I doubt the Protestant trolls even spent time listening to a single word said here
@markgordon53872 ай бұрын
I've never seen a Roman Catholic priest dressed like that. My mother and grandparents did 70 years ago. Is he SSPX?
@FatherJMarcelPortelli2 ай бұрын
He's wearing a cope instead of a chasuble because this homily was given within the context of eucharistic adoration, not Mass. He had exposed the Blessed Sacrament just prior to preaching. He is not SSPX.
@markgordon53872 ай бұрын
@@FatherJMarcelPortelli I know what it is. Here in Chicago, priests haven't worn that since the early-1960s. Pre-Vat. II.
@FatherJMarcelPortelli2 ай бұрын
Regardless of what some of those Chicago priests may be doing, copes are called for in the rubrics of both pre and post Vatican II when it comes to handling a monstrance (humeral veil, too).
@markgordon53872 ай бұрын
@@FatherJMarcelPortelli I was born in 1969, and I started Catholic school in 1974. I never saw a priest wear copes. I got my BA, MA, and first Ph.D. in Sacred Theology, and still never saw a priest wear one around the Chicago area. That's why I asked if he was a SSPX priest.
@FatherJMarcelPortelli2 ай бұрын
I can't speak for the Chicago priests who aren't following the rubrics. I encourage you to attend St. John Cantius Church in downtown Chicago.
@ThornyCrown-l5d2 ай бұрын
The truth is, there is no sacerdotal, sacrificing priesthood mentioned ANYWHERE in the New Testament (let alone a papacy) and therefore it is an office that was never a part of the church economy to begin with.
@FatherJMarcelPortelli2 ай бұрын
The concept of a Christian priesthood is rooted in the belief that Jesus established a ministerial priesthood through his apostles. This is based on the idea that Jesus conferred priestly duties to the apostles, such as forgiving sins and offering sacrifices, which are seen as priestly actions. The New Testament describes a threefold structure: the common priesthood of all believers, the ministerial priesthood of the ordained, and Christ's high priesthood. Additionally, early Church writings, like those of Clement of Rome, support the existence of a structured priesthood stemming from apostolic succession. Your Bible's New Testament uses the term "presbyter" which originates from the Greek word presbyteros, meaning "elder" or "old man," and in the New Testament, it refers to a leader of the church. In early Christianity, presbyters were initially indistinguishable from bishops but later became a distinct order within the church hierarchy, serving as advisors to bishops and taking on pastoral and liturgical responsibilities. The English word "priest" is derived from "presbyter," and in apostolic churches (e.g., Catholic Eastern Orthodox) , it is synonymous with a member of the clergy who performs sacramental duties.
@BrandonDanilition2 ай бұрын
What are you even on about? The New Testament explicitly states we bear a priesthood in Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:9), and as for ordained priests, that’s what the role of the presbyter/elder is. Also, bishops are mentioned in 1 Timothy 3, and the pope is a bishop. The Bible explicitly states the organization in the Church as established by Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Ghost. Anyway, the books of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, as we have it today, was compiled by the Catholic Church in the Councils of Carthage and Hippo in the 4th century, by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. So a church with bishops, a pope, and priests, compiled the books of the Bible that we have today, and you call this church wrong? Double minded.
@ThornyCrown-l5d2 ай бұрын
@@BrandonDanilition No! I never denied the priesthood of ALL believers. I DID deny the claim of a celibate, sacerdotal, sacrificing priesthood being mentioned anywhere in the N.T. Nor can you prove otherwise. Neither a "priest" or a "pope" is mentioned in the 3 verses the offices of the church ARE mentioned. I trust you know the verses? This is detrimental to your case. And whoever denied that bishops are mentioned? They were men who were MARRIED (I trust you know the verse?)...thus dismissing your claim for anything relating to a "catholic bishop" in any sense of the word. Regarding your statement, "and as for ordained priests, that’s what the role of the presbyter/elder is", you are 100% wrong. The roles of P/E were the SAME in the early church...and there is nothing to indicate any sort of catholic priesthood as defined by the RCC. Look at what "Word Meanings in the New Testament" by Ralph Earle says. Under the word "Bishop" used in 1 Tim 3:1, we read "It literally means 'overseer'. Turning to the N.T., we discover one fact immediately; there is no mention of any diocesan bishop. In the one church at Philipi there was "episcopoi" (bishops, PLURAL) ...Phil 1:1. The bishop was a local official, and there were SEVERAL of these in each congregation. [NOTE: exactly as in MY congregation and certainly not "ordained priests" as you suppose] . Furthermore, the "elders" (presbyteroi) and "bishops" (episcopoi) WERE THE SAME. [Again, they were the SAME]. This is shown clearly in Acts 20. In verse 17, it says that Paul called for the ELDERS (presbyteroi) of the church at Ephesus. In verse 28, he refers to them as episcopoi --overseers (KJV) or "guardians" (RSV). The same people are designated by both titles. We shall find this same phenonenom clearly indicated in the epistle to Titus. In the N.T. church, each local congregation was supervised by a group of elders or bishops, and a group of deacons. When we come to Ignatius early in the second century about 115, we find a very different picture. Now there is one bishop over each local church, together with several elders and deacons. Here we see the beginnings of the episcopal hierarchy that flowered during the second century. But in the beginning, it was not so." What Catholicism has done over time is separate the two and elevated one to be higher than the other. We do not read of this type of church government in the Bible, therefore the evidence for a papacy, an unmarried bishopric and a sacerdotal priesthood as we see today, is biblically unsustainable. Good day.
@Charlotte-rp6qu2 ай бұрын
You are apparently very angry and miserable in your beliefs. And Jesus said to Peter Though art rock and upon this rock I will build my Church. Anything after that is a spin off. And again He tells His apostles whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven; whose sins you shall retain they are retained. Christ appointed them Magisterium -- doctrines and dogma are different. Jesus gave full authority in doctrinal matters --- Dogma is set in the Divine ----- but the spin offs have changed dogma---- sacraments ---- divorce and many other teachings and rules set down by Our Lord. And look to the ten commandments ---- were they given in the new testament?? There are many Sacred Mysteries ---- the Mass which gives us the Holy Eucharist ---- not someone passing around bread, wine, or grape juice and calling Holy Communion
@ThornyCrown-l5d2 ай бұрын
@@FatherJMarcelPortelli Your own words show how DEBATABLE your position is, and therefore proves nothing. You say the RC priesthood is "ROOTED IN THE BELIEF" that Jesus instituted a celibate, sacerdotal, sacrificing priesthood. Yes, it's your belief alright, but we say that belief sorely lacks biblical support. The catechism claims Jesus instituted the apostles as "priests" at the Last Supper (in the Catholic sacerdotal sense), but that is pure speculation, nor can it be proved from the Text. Let's face it. all Catholic beliefs are "rooted in the belief" that we have to look in between the lines of the biblical data to find out what Jesus REALLY meant. No. We say the record suffices, period, case closed. Again, you say, this is "BASED ON THE IDEA that...". Yes, based on the IDEA, an idea we categorically deny and which we assert is biblically bankrupt. Moreover, while you are correct about the word "elder", and that these "presbyters were initially indistinguishable from bishops"...(yes, they were, the Text shows they were the SAME office), you go on to to trash early church government protocol by admitting that they "later became a distinct order within the church hierarchy". But that's just it. WE DENY this later "evolution", wherein once they were the same office, Catholics then uplifted the office of a bishop (who was said to be MARRIED), into an unmarried bishopric wherein the priest is now of a LOWER rank. So while I do thank you for your opinion, we say it is biblically unsustainable Good day.
@ragnaryahuwah2 ай бұрын
You calling yourself priest, make the people you attempt to lead, SIN by simply agreeing to calling you father or rabbi. That's Before you even open that mouth to tell what to do King Ragnar Yahuwah
@pete96882 ай бұрын
Why do people call judges , judge? He’s not my judge. But it’s their title. Kind of work through the semantics. 👍🏼
@ragnaryahuwah2 ай бұрын
@@pete9688 jew/You D Ge King Ragnar Yahuwah KADOSH AMEN
@MichElle-zc9tuАй бұрын
get behind Me satan.
@ragnaryahuwah2 ай бұрын
You're students at most, not teachers or priest or rabbi King Ragnar Yahuwah