There’s something wrong with Tudor (TRIGGER WARNING!!)

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Oisín O Malley

Oisín O Malley

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@phillygrappler
@phillygrappler 26 күн бұрын
“People used to say that Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex to which I always say remove poor, it’s the man’s Rolex.” “Perhaps Rolex is just the overpriced Tudor.” Pure gold Oisin!
@pauljdunne784
@pauljdunne784 25 күн бұрын
Henry Ford famously said Never ask the customers what they want, My customers wanted a faster horse.
@verynormalman
@verynormalman 18 күн бұрын
Gosh! This man loves the sound of his own voice. I only lasted to 4:30! So much clunky prevarication. That doesn't mean quality content.
@davidconnelly
@davidconnelly 26 күн бұрын
Am I the only one who sees huge similarities between the watch world and the guitar world? At this point I see Rolex as being like Gibson and Tudor is like Epiphone. Musicians will understand, hopefully.
@markwright2140
@markwright2140 23 күн бұрын
And Paul McCartney played an Epiphone…nuff said!
@Imw101
@Imw101 14 күн бұрын
Squire V Custom Shop
@frankieroberts3444
@frankieroberts3444 4 күн бұрын
Depends how you rock it
@bigmex8794
@bigmex8794 26 күн бұрын
Purchased a Tudor style 38mm a year and a half ago. I love it and only wear it on special occasions. Very happy with my purchase as it was only slightly out of my budget.
@Dronetothetop
@Dronetothetop 8 күн бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Also am Tudor chrono gold owner here.
@MeestroDavid
@MeestroDavid 26 күн бұрын
I look at it through the lens of the record business: I don't mind Tudor being Rolex's reissue label, putting out official, remastered, high-quality versions of old Rolex releases rather than leaving it up to bootlegs and cover versions. You can buy an original, mint copy of Coltrane's Sound on Atlantic for $300 dollars or you could buy the Rhino reissue for $30 that isn't as collectable but is pressed and packaged to higher standards than Atlantic's albums from 1960s, but you have that Rhino logo on the label. I see Tudor the same way-a new Black Bay 54 costs a fraction of the vintage Rolex (or even the vintage Tudor) it's based on, yet it's objectively a more durable, higher quality product. The only problem with Tudor is that they refuse to be honest about who they are with the whole "Born To Dare" branding. Nothing is less "daring" than recreating the most desirable references from Rolex's past, no matter who Tudor pays to flog them.
@daleyfamily2179
@daleyfamily2179 25 күн бұрын
Tudor is the sister to Rolex. Always will be. In the military world being retired Army after 21 years of service, we wore Tudor, as the shield protects the realm. Tudor is a military persons watch for sure. I love and will always wear my Tudor Pelagos FXD with pride.
@johnpuleo1532
@johnpuleo1532 26 күн бұрын
Awesome, cheeky vid Oisin.. I love both Rolex and Tudor.. I own both, but wear my Tudors daily
@erf-3
@erf-3 26 күн бұрын
My BB58 gets too much time on my wrist - the explore, sub and datejust are jealous. BB58 is so easy to tell time on a quick glance. Submariner no-date not as easy to read on a quick glance.
@uthred6849
@uthred6849 25 күн бұрын
There are a few special Tudor designs as well: I wear a Tudor North Flag, with a very unique tool watch design and bracelet. It's the most masculine watch I own.
@legionanders7041
@legionanders7041 26 күн бұрын
Spot on Oisín, per usual. As for my view, I thank the gods that Rolex has a sister brand platform where they can resurrect classic old Rolex models. Because the alternative, is that those great watch designs would end up as nothing more than museum pieces, viewed through a glass case. And those designs are too good for that; they deserve to live and be enjoyed on the wrist. The fact that they're doing that at a price point that more men can afford (than if it were Rolex) is icing on the cake.
@metro2171
@metro2171 26 күн бұрын
There is nothing wrong looking like your own family. Rolex and Tudor are cut from the same cloth. Great Job Tudor
@matt4590
@matt4590 25 күн бұрын
I personally love that Tudor are making the classics available at an attainable price and with modern quality. As a brand though, their catalogue feels like a mess. Black bay everything (genuinely what is the common link in the line?), ranger is another vintage inspired piece, royal is a dud. Pelagos is the one modern piece that’s interesting.
@user-yr2tz3xi3x
@user-yr2tz3xi3x 26 күн бұрын
Perfect pitch and, as always, very entertaining. Thanks Oisin.
@wristopia4101
@wristopia4101 25 күн бұрын
The main difference between Rolex, Tudor, and other brands..... is the feel. Every time you pick one up, put it on, take it off, unscrew Trip Lock™, wind, set, wind some more, screw in Trip Lock™, put back down, is a true joy ; ) Have not worn a Tudor in ages, but that 'Real Mans Watch' comment made my wrist swell a quarter of an inch, and I will dig something chunky out right now! 😈😂
@skivailfast
@skivailfast 4 күн бұрын
You contradicted yourself in the 3rd sentence. Go try a Tudor
@wristopia4101
@wristopia4101 3 күн бұрын
@@skivailfast I don't see how so.
@vintagewriting
@vintagewriting 26 күн бұрын
I loved Tudor when they were 'the poor man's Rolex'. You could take it out and jackhammer the streets of Geneva, according to the ads. When they went their own way, you got the butt-ugly North Flag. Now they're back, making classy and refined versions of the overblown, pretentious and overpriced Rolex GMTs and Submariners. A welcome development. Just cause some people like it, doesn't mean it's bad.
@brent54321
@brent54321 25 күн бұрын
I like the North Flag! 😂
@vintagewriting
@vintagewriting 25 күн бұрын
@@brent54321 and I’ll defend to the death your right to say that 🤢
@defenestratedone
@defenestratedone 23 күн бұрын
Indeed, beyond poor man’s Rolex, they’re just just what Rolex used to be a couple of decades ago. Rolex will just continue to push upmarket into there luxury fashion space, where everything is hype and scarcity.
@scwazrh
@scwazrh 26 күн бұрын
Tudor - the ultimate cover band
@garethpearce5266
@garethpearce5266 25 күн бұрын
Tudor fanchap, here. Couldn’t agree more.
@davids9549
@davids9549 26 күн бұрын
I've no doubt you're right about the brand and its current products. But whether that matters depends on why you buy the watch. I know next to nothing about vintage Rolex, or indeed Tudor itself, but I bought my BB58 simply because I liked it - as a modern watch. Five years on, I feel exactly the same way.
@denniskai2331
@denniskai2331 26 күн бұрын
Like the take on it .... but - why does tudor have to gilt everything up? And with the gold black bay they finally removed the rivets (hopefully they extend that to all the models)
@mariog7213
@mariog7213 24 күн бұрын
I share your sentiment. I quite despise the entire gilt/fauxtina phase the industry is going through and can’t wait for it to be over
@Geniusclicks
@Geniusclicks 26 күн бұрын
VERY TRUE!! But isnt that the Hans Wilsdorfs wish?? Rolex’s with different movements at a modest price point?? Call it a cover band but it is what it is.
@witoldkramarz2500
@witoldkramarz2500 25 күн бұрын
They follow Wilfdorfs wish indeed but it means no brand identity and let us call it like that
@Geniusclicks
@Geniusclicks 25 күн бұрын
@@witoldkramarz2500 in essense they are all brand Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. The materials ceramic, bronz, carbon fiber, silver. They are a extention of the Hans brand at different price points
@MaintenanceManNarratives
@MaintenanceManNarratives 25 күн бұрын
Great video!!
@robbiecleighmarks3088
@robbiecleighmarks3088 24 күн бұрын
Good video .. Oisin what do you think of Oris?
@joeskeptical4762
@joeskeptical4762 25 күн бұрын
*Rolex is a smart, successful marketer and Tudor demonstrates it.*
@marsh8417
@marsh8417 26 күн бұрын
I steeled myself to hate this, thinking maybe you were being contrary just because you enjoy it. But no, you weren't; it was a considered opinion, well thought out and well made and you played with the viewer with the clips echoing the sentiment you knew we might have. Enjoyed this take.
@GoHighOctane500LC
@GoHighOctane500LC 26 күн бұрын
After resisting for a few years I am surprised how much I like my black Pelagos 500m. It is the best legible watch under any light conditions.
@djknucklez1
@djknucklez1 25 күн бұрын
Been waiting for this! 👍
@galaga8834
@galaga8834 25 күн бұрын
Great video. This is why I like the Black Bay with burgundy bezel, the all blue and gilt Black bay 58 and the FXD. They are Tudor with credibility with their own character.
@chadlampe4026
@chadlampe4026 23 күн бұрын
Hilarious cut scenes! I have the Tudor GMT S&G and, like you, it gets more compliments than any of my Rolexes. A lot of fair points made. Rolex is definitely using Tudor to look back on references and cash in on that and I think that’s great. The watch market is somewhat of a bottomless pit where no one is ever satiated. Tudor is still at an achievable price point with budgeting and saving. The retort that the brand is not a “poor man’s Rolex”, but a Man’s Rolex is a good reply.
@Herbf173
@Herbf173 25 күн бұрын
Amazing review as always 👏
@michaelriera6277
@michaelriera6277 26 күн бұрын
Great perspective on the Tudor/Rolex dynamic.
@waynemoore9951
@waynemoore9951 25 күн бұрын
All very valid points as usual.
@raymeehan-wk6oq
@raymeehan-wk6oq 26 күн бұрын
Thank U Oisín, Yes indeed, When I Grow Up I Will Sell My entire Watch Collection & Buy my "Man's Watch" MY GRAIL "Tudor Watch"..! ❤
@micaljimenez7381
@micaljimenez7381 25 күн бұрын
I loved tudor sometime ago,but now its a little like a hit song you heard all the time everywhere,and at the end they finish to make you hate the song you were loved so much...
@GuyVanderAa
@GuyVanderAa 25 күн бұрын
This sank in. But you’re actually right. I’ll now think of that when looking at Tudor. Then again - as you said - they’re a beautiful way to own a classic for a better price and have a more durable version. Nothing wrong with that. 😎
@Walterliquori
@Walterliquori 26 күн бұрын
I am 48 and I can say I got to see Pink Floyd live in 1994 at foxboro stadium . It was awesome . Saucerful of secrets is my top . Great video Cin Cin 🥂
@josephferris76
@josephferris76 26 күн бұрын
I was at that very same concert, high school graduation gift/trip LOL
@Walterliquori
@Walterliquori 26 күн бұрын
@@josephferris76 same here class of 94
@phillygrappler
@phillygrappler 26 күн бұрын
I was at that show too when I was 24. Never woulda thought that 30 years I’d be into watches let alone watching a show on the Internet about watches!😂
@jessedavis7555
@jessedavis7555 12 күн бұрын
Great video excellent editing! The way a watch video should be shot.Thank you Oisin 👍
@emc14000
@emc14000 26 күн бұрын
hahah love that Big Lebowski quote, funny.
@webb3201
@webb3201 14 күн бұрын
This is actually a perfect strategy in this day and age. The fans of traditionally watches are relatively few in number, and very few of them are buying a 100k vintage Rolex. It is created for those customers, no one is going into Tudor and deciding they want to buy an analogue watch for the first time.
@gavinwhite9743
@gavinwhite9743 23 күн бұрын
Should have added.. Deeply refreshing to find a KZbinr…. With his own opinion. Not mindlessly sucking the Tudor cool aid. I don’t always agree with everything he says, but at least he has original and thought out opinions, and is willing to engage in the conversation. Enjoyed this one, great analogy.
@Werman20
@Werman20 13 күн бұрын
My god what a great video! The finale tied it all up so so well and the clips from movies are perfect. And the chrono Tudor is a very man’s man watch
@marvean2519
@marvean2519 26 күн бұрын
Honestly couldn't agree more, which is why I really like Tudor for what they are. (You could look into using a small wind shield to reduce your mic sibilance)
@GM-ii8gs
@GM-ii8gs 26 күн бұрын
Hence I have a black Pelagos 42 plus I don't like faux rivets.
@Kbo513
@Kbo513 25 күн бұрын
My friend and I had the same thoughts about Tudor recently too. We both enjoyed the BB58 Navy and the BB58 925, but year after year it’s seems Tudor just kept releasing pieces that we would like Rolex to release, but never did. They miss the mark just by one or two details that my Tudors didn’t become keepers in the collection. I think their Pelagos FXD is one of the few in their product lines that actually stand out. The Marine Nationale or even the new FXD cyclist version are so unique that they are enticing me to get back to the brand after letting go of their BBPro, Pepsi BB GMT, black Pelagos - all thick and top heavy in the end.
@paulhawkins95
@paulhawkins95 25 күн бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I owned the Tudor GMT when it first came out and while I liked the watch, I never fell in love because it was a copy of the Rolex model which I really wanted. I wish they would come out with more original designs. I’m one of the few that like the north flag it seems and I was a fan of the P01. The Pelagos is the watch that gets my attention the most because it’s far more original in design. What kills me the most about the brand is having so many watches under the black bay name plate. I find it extremely lazy to have 9 separate models under it and a few of them have sub model variants. Saying all of that they are great watches and I’m sure I’ll add another to my collection but they need to do something different to make me want to spend my money and not look at the other options in the $4-6k range.
@dyna88cui
@dyna88cui 22 күн бұрын
Thank you once again for an acute analysis and a thoroughly reasoned opinion. While not disagreeing, I would offer balancing considerations. The HW foundation has a narrow path to walk and they seem able to strike a great balance between experimenting on Tudor and staying conservative on Rolex. They may want to develop Tudor without damaging Rolex. Simultaneously, the heritage of HW's mindset is strongly respected. It results in a primadonna Rolex, loved/hated and going it's own path & a daring Tudor experimenting with nostalgia but also with excellent own designs like 1926, Pelagos, Clair de Rose and Royal... all that luxury at reasonable price. We are talking top quality luxury items here, so please correctly compare competitors: Omega, not Longines. That's loyal to HW's mission, waiting lists are just part of the difference in affordability. Allow me to digress: how many beautiful own collections does (great) Omega have? Do we agree that PP is the master of "ugly yet expensive" watches? How do the collections of AP or VC compare to the Rolex/Tudor conglomerate? I can't help but congratulate the foundation for the many great watches they deliver every year and hope they'll be able to refine a strategy that keeps the myth alive, which is everything else but trivial. A wise man once said "they lead, and we follow" - I don't love all their watches, but I surely love their attitude.
@RMA_432_
@RMA_432_ 26 күн бұрын
The Tudor guy: - Triumph Motorcycle - 5 o’clock Shadow - Cowboy Boots - Ripped Jeans - Tobacco Breath - Bigger 🍆 - Oisin in a previous video. 💪🏽
@Sirkelsag666
@Sirkelsag666 26 күн бұрын
And then there is me: Toyota Yaris Full beard Brouge boots P44 USMC trousers Bad breath Small 🍆
@PanSearedRibeye68
@PanSearedRibeye68 26 күн бұрын
That’s what makes it the perfect watch. Classy enough for the board room and casual enough for those weekends hanging out with the bros.
@duck853
@duck853 26 күн бұрын
🤣Close... -Ducati -scruffy Asian man goatee -RM Williams Chelseas -Coffee breath mixed with cigar breath -average eggplant Owns it.
@raymeehan-wk6oq
@raymeehan-wk6oq 26 күн бұрын
Triumph Bike..Yes, 5 o' clock shadow..Yes. Cowboy Boots. Ok ish. At least it's Pair Boots. Mmm Ripped Jeans, Ah that be a No No & A NO ( Hamster, Sorry HIPSTER ). Tobacco Breath Defo. As for a Bigger Vegetable..! Now that Just down right Offensive & Sexist..im Offended.😅😅😅😅
@verynormalman
@verynormalman 26 күн бұрын
6 times "no"! Your source is suspect.
@patricladubla5251
@patricladubla5251 21 күн бұрын
Awesome video Mr Oisin.
@charliekennedy91
@charliekennedy91 24 күн бұрын
You hit the head on the nail and that's why I wear an Explorer II and play a Rickenbacker 4003. Can't fake the funk!
@don1165
@don1165 26 күн бұрын
Once again (agree or not) you sum this (watch) crap up in a professional, thoughtful way. I mostly agree with your ideas here (though I would not have been able to come up with it as nicely as you do) Yes your Site is more than "watches" - but you still have something to offer the hobby.
@damiaanvanhouwelingen2308
@damiaanvanhouwelingen2308 25 күн бұрын
I believe Rolex is trying to move Tudor up and make it the Rolex of a few years ago. The professional toolwatch, the watch you get as a graduation gift, a special anniversary or as a retirement gift. That's why they make watches the public is looking for. Rolex themselve is becoming more exclusive and doesn't want the average Joe as a client anymore. They want to be seen as highly exclusive. That's why they release a ridiculous 18k Deepsea and diamond studded Daytonas.
@rickfanning5647
@rickfanning5647 25 күн бұрын
Being from the States, I see a comparison to cars, for example GM. Rolex is the Cadillac. A bit more chromed out and more of a status symbol. Tudor is like GMC or maybe Chevy. Similar design and often the same engines and frames. You get fewer features as you move down in price and the vehicles are more obtainable. Think an Escalade compared to a Yukon compared to a Suburban. (All are huge gas guzzling SUVs that are likely not practical in Europe. Sorry, they’re what comes to mind at the moment.) They are different points on the status/bling and price continuum. It is choice for the consumer. It’s a good thing in my humble opinion.
@generalpatton272
@generalpatton272 24 күн бұрын
I love the video, and love Tudor. It’s gonna be weird when Rolex discontinues the Pepsi, and Tudor releases the 58 Pepsi.
@user-ys5zz8cu7i
@user-ys5zz8cu7i 25 күн бұрын
I don’t disagree & yet I still love my BB! It’s just a fantastic watch that doesn’t project anything I don’t want to communicate - my workplace doesn’t have a “flex” culture and wearing my BB doesn’t get the attention that a Sub would- that works for me. I also have the blue FXD & think it’s one of the most fun watches fo wear due to its uniqueness - (countdown, fully indexed bezel/fixed lugs). Additionally, Tudor is a brand that watch geeks can enjoy without spending so much money or waiting so long on a list. I have a Rolex too and love it for different reasons. Which is to say- the brands have definitely moved in terms of the roles they play in the market, and it seems at this point that they’re being really successful at it. However, I do understand how that might leave you a little cold - so very interesting points Oisin!
@TD-uq6lq
@TD-uq6lq 23 күн бұрын
I can’t disagree with anything you say, you’re right on all accounts… but i still love Tudor and will be buying many more 😁. Enjoyed the video!
@craigroberts3483
@craigroberts3483 25 күн бұрын
Great video Mate, I like all your content but find it difficult to catch your live streams being in Australia time zone worlds apart and the length of the videos. Your correct I own a Pelagos LHD and wear it on my left wrist because I can. Love the watch. Look forward to more great content.
@MrPagnu
@MrPagnu 25 күн бұрын
You said it right once, Tudor is the Rolex nostalgia room and I’m entirely ok with that. Owning also a few Rolex icons from the early ‘00, I feel more comfortable wearing Tudor on daily basis, but I stick to Heritage models only - Monte Carlo, black Smiley, Ranger (avoided the BB54 for price and size reasons) - the remaining standard models aren’t my cup of tea, especially since they started using in house movements pushing their pricing beyond what I still consider their league in MHO.
@RobertFalconer1967
@RobertFalconer1967 25 күн бұрын
100% agree with this analysis, though my conclusion is a bit different. There's no question that Tudor are replaying Rolex's old hits, but it's because Rolex's old hits happen to be so popular and desirable just at the minute. So Tudor is going where there is a strong market, because Rolex certainly aren't going to. I do think Tudor has the capacity to do original stuff (the Pelagos springs to mind), and perhaps they will expand more of that in the future, too. But for the moment, I have no issues with brand new movements and metallurgy wrapped up in the designs of Rolex's past, with a very high level of fit and finish (something homage companies can't match).
@nestorarodriguez2845
@nestorarodriguez2845 25 күн бұрын
I got you and agree with your perception. We all have been noticing it for a while and pointing out the similarities with previous Rolex models. Oisin, I would love to hear what Lenny has to say about this year’s Watches and Wonders releases. I miss him so much. Please, let the beast out!
@JR-nl3mh
@JR-nl3mh 25 күн бұрын
Very well spoken. Nice metaphore.
@mauriebarnes8272
@mauriebarnes8272 25 күн бұрын
Agree. Very cool to be in Venice and watching this!
@dinodavanzo8536
@dinodavanzo8536 24 күн бұрын
Hey Oisin, read the title of this episode and as a big Tudor fan, was ready to get angry. I thought I’d better listen first. You raise a lot of what Ive thought about over the last few years about Tudor V Rolex and to be frank, about the hype in the industry which on one hand is good but where prices are insane. As you say, Tudor is probably right priced. I cannot bring myself to pay $20k+++ for an Oyster Perpetual, an Explorer II or a Yachtmaster which are my favourites. The rest I can take it or leave. I have a Tudor Reverse Chrono and love it. You summarised the Tudor Chrono perfectly. The Daytona doesn’t do it for me. As always you raise some good thoughts and talking points, and, aside from the Chrono, Pelagos and I’d throw the BB54 into the mix for those with smaller wrists. So, I think you’re half right and half wrong. That said, love the BB 58 GMT! Go THE MAN’s Rolex!
@wambugumassive
@wambugumassive 25 күн бұрын
Nice appraisal with some sublime movie clips to illustrate your arguments. Made me chuckle over my morning coffee. It's the Pelagos that I keep coming back to! You pointed it out as an exception to the "apparent" Tudor "tribute brand" rule!
@nchance1
@nchance1 25 күн бұрын
Great viewpoint, Tudor to me has been the "gateway" watch into luxury watches. You wonder if Tudor gives Rolex executives with an easy way to "play" too current trends, while capturing the revenue of people who do not feel like messing with the entire "waitlist" mentallity of some AD's. Nice perspective as always Mr. O Malley
@richmann8230
@richmann8230 25 күн бұрын
PERFECT TAKE ON TUDOR. I keep looking at them and they have copied the best features of the vintage rolex. Great prices and great looking. But I still only buy the actual real vintage rolex instead, or do without. If I want an homage, I'd buy an Invicta or a really good copy. But I like know that what's on my wrist is the real thing. And it says Rolex or Patek or Omega etc. Just my opinion. But yeah.. Tudor are great looking and probably just fine.
@SolidCaseBack
@SolidCaseBack 25 күн бұрын
Fair comments, yet perhaps slightly harsh as well. You mention Pelagos, but I think it deserves some more recognition as really THAT is Tudor doing Tudor, being their own brand. The Pelagos 42 line will be refreshed soon, while the FXD sub-line is fabulous. You can argue a Pelagos 39 is a rehashed five digit Tudor Sub (and I would) but it's also modern and I'd say their best current watch. The Black Bay is a Heritage line in name and nature, and so of course it leans on old designs, and plays on nostalgia. But that's fine with me. It gives me high quality dive watches in fabulous designs and as you say, at a fraction of the price for the original Rolex, and in modern condition. Win win IMHO. And surely one can argue that the BB Heritage Chrono is an old 6XXX Daytona "homage" but you seem happy enough with yours and why not? I have the 58 GMT on order and while I get that it's a quasi-6542 homage, I see a lot of people compare it to the 16710 Coke, which make be a fairer comparison and for me, Rolex's best GMT of all. It's also probably the only high quality GMT on the market under £5k. I could go further and say it's probably better than any GMT on the market cheaper than a GMT-Master II (although admittedly I have yet to receive mine and actually try it). So is it fair to say Tudor leans on the old Rolex (and some Tudor) designs? Sure. But if they are giving the people what they want, surely it's most fundamentally that they're giving them top quality at an unbeatable price, and as you rightly point out, with almost immediate availability.
@Ccprotectiondogs
@Ccprotectiondogs 24 күн бұрын
Love this ! Thank you for sharing.
@jonnyg5210
@jonnyg5210 25 күн бұрын
Bang on I’d say..great take on current Tudor/Rolex shenanigans… I wear my Tudors to beat them up and wear my Rolex for flash..so that kinda makes what your saying stack up for me at least.
@denis888red
@denis888red 13 күн бұрын
As a bloke who owns both (and the blue BB58 bought after owning a number of Rolex), I think you make some great, interesting and entertaining points. I wonder if the marketing people over at Rolex ever tune in? If so, I'd love to be a fly on the wall...;)
@CTizer
@CTizer 25 күн бұрын
The Shield protects the crown. Rolex is the leader, they set the trends. Tudor comes in to attack and “defend” with the aspiring competition below by tapping into market trends and offering a product that is virtually unbeatable for the money - how many times have you heard competitors of Rolex say they are just as good for half the money. Wilsdorf envisions this and created Tudor as another revenue stream for the foundation whilst keeping Rolex where it is. This was why Tudor Submariners where so prolific across multiple spec ops units all over the world- Rolex’s were untenable for the taxpayer if Tudor subs exist.
@gregsmith7145
@gregsmith7145 25 күн бұрын
I own a BB panda chrono and love the watch and I do agree with your statements.
@ImBatben1
@ImBatben1 20 күн бұрын
An excellent and insightful video. I personally have no connection with or passion for Rolex so enjoy Tudor at face value, but having watched this I can see why a Rolex connoisseur (so to speak) would object to some of Tudor’s releases. That was also a cracking selection of clips to punctuate your points! Very entertaining.
@dscotp185
@dscotp185 11 күн бұрын
Excellent review. Spot on. Great cover band analogy. Well done. Cheers.
@albertmeyer8983
@albertmeyer8983 25 күн бұрын
Oisin, jou nailed it! 👍🏼
@Jtjustintimberlake
@Jtjustintimberlake 26 күн бұрын
I own the panda Chrono, and love it. Also I am a big fan of the brand. I do agree, that Tudor does give it's fans more of what they want. I personally like the 42mm Pelagos and would love to see an update to that model. Also like the Opaline GMT.
@edwardblack7133
@edwardblack7133 25 күн бұрын
And he's back! Great vid thoughtful thought provoking and superb production as we've come to expect. Personally speaking I like indie watches bespoke watches mass produced watches expensive watches and homages. This hobby is so inclusive it's cool if you're wearing a Rolex sub a Tudor homage or San Martin homage. Buy what you like
@dean5346
@dean5346 25 күн бұрын
This idea of Tudor watches being a poor man’s Rolex, was over 25 years ago. The same example then was that Porsche boxster was the poor man’s Porsche. It was the 911 that every one wanted. I bought the poor man’s Porsche boxster that cost me 30k. I was very happy being in the poor man’s bracket of Porsche. Because it was far better than a fiesta, or ford escort. Now the poor man’s Porsche boxster are £ 55k up to £125k. Is that still classed as being a poor man’s Porsche. Anyway if you like the Tudor watch forget what other people think or say about the watch. They are not the ones wearing it. Just go with your own instincts. I own Rolex, Tudor watches. I’m just as happy wearing my Casio world time watch as much as the other brands.
@coffeeboyclips1973
@coffeeboyclips1973 24 күн бұрын
Bad analogy, a Porsche is still a Porsche, it's like buying a 3 series instead of the M5. Tudor is crap and you either buy a Rolex or an alternative like omega, iwc etc not a Tudor
@ian5445
@ian5445 25 күн бұрын
Spot on. I thought the same.
@mooseriderrik
@mooseriderrik 21 күн бұрын
great analysis!
@andyfallon9605
@andyfallon9605 21 күн бұрын
Tudor has maintained that tool watch appearance with retro vibes and I’m sure is a test bed for Rolex, the BB 54 testing how popular smaller sized dive watches are etc.
@BenNS1971
@BenNS1971 23 күн бұрын
I love Tudor. They make amazing watches. Though your various perspectives may seem antagonistic, I agree 100% with all of them… It seems to me that Tudor is actually all that.
@cianmurphy52
@cianmurphy52 25 күн бұрын
These are all the words I wanted to say in an order that makes perfect sense
@balisbest
@balisbest 23 күн бұрын
Design element and trends are always reused in fashion and design. There is nothing wrong with that it actually validates it's importance. I love what Tudor is doing I'm sure they will sell well
@Jckendall13
@Jckendall13 26 күн бұрын
Very well said. Personally agree that they are hashing out old discontinued Rolex greats. I’ve owned two Tudors, still have my BB58. But, there hasn’t been much innovation from the brand. I don’t like the change of the seconds hand with these new releases- now the lineup is mixed snowflake and lollipop.
@_Root_Beer
@_Root_Beer 25 күн бұрын
100% agree with this. I used to be a Tudor fanboy, now I just appreciate it for that it is
@beetrootjunkie4178
@beetrootjunkie4178 24 күн бұрын
Bang on as always. Few too many movie clips though😆
@DogStar84
@DogStar84 25 күн бұрын
For me it was down to : I can buy the Tudor at dealer. Can’t find a steel Rolex at an AD. Also, frankly, I’m worried about wearing my Rolex in SF, Chicago, LA or London. I don’t think twice about wearing the Tudor.
@Kalmar917
@Kalmar917 26 күн бұрын
F’ng LOL!!!! Great video man. Couple of things. The BB54 is the small crown. The 58 is the 6538. The new GMT is fantastic. There are two things going on. Tudor is making those throw backs for today. The Pussy Galore GMT was the hit, the bang of this year hands down. They aren’t just giving us what we want they are saying we are continuing what Rolex used to be which you hit it on the nail. Lastly, Rolex is going after Patek. Slowly and methodical as we know Rolex to be. Tudor as you said is a man’s Rolex. This is true. Rolex is over priced and they are moving up as far as their customer base. They are going phased out entry level models soon I feel or at the very least make them from precious medals. There are plenty of things Tudor does that Rolex cannot and I agree with you on that 100% because they are moving. Greta video and keep them coming.
@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu
@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu 25 күн бұрын
Holy crap, Oisin and I agree on something! Cheers mate! I think the original FXD was a better release than Rolex has had in decades tbh
@k2superlative72
@k2superlative72 25 күн бұрын
True True True, someone actually said it.
@dominickfrancis9808
@dominickfrancis9808 25 күн бұрын
🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ You kill me with this one for sure 🤣🤣🤣 , Amazing editing and I love all the old movies brings back good memories 🍿, True here for sure 👌🏾
@JosefEriu
@JosefEriu 26 күн бұрын
I am very happy with my Tudor Black Bay 58 🙂
@CryptoSeven7
@CryptoSeven7 26 күн бұрын
I love the new Tudor sub ❤
@Sirkelsag666
@Sirkelsag666 26 күн бұрын
You mean the pelagos 39?
@janein26
@janein26 25 күн бұрын
@@Sirkelsag666 No, the Tudor Black Bay METAS, Ref. M7941A1A0NU
@TheDudleyJames
@TheDudleyJames 17 күн бұрын
The Tudor with a burgundy and black bezel, I’m calling by the cherry coke. I will buy as soon as it’s on a jubilee
@wristopia4101
@wristopia4101 25 күн бұрын
Be careful what you wish for lol. A/ Most people have zero design skills/taste/personal taste. B/ Most people saying they want something, are buying nothing. C/ Most people say the latest thing (dial colour, bracelet design etc.) is the best (see 'A' above).
@timharris6688
@timharris6688 26 күн бұрын
Agree. I bought the Pelagos. Wouldn’t buy any others. But I guess if you want a vintage Rolex look for a fraction of the price, maybe.
@Julian_O91
@Julian_O91 25 күн бұрын
Pelagos the best independet Model Series Tudor!
@markgiles8527
@markgiles8527 25 күн бұрын
I love that Tudor are making these watches. Who doesn’t love the old style. If Tudor won’t make them the Chinese will (do). 😂 Fairly sure all the people who say that Rolex won’t and Tudor shouldn’t make these watches it’s because it helps keep the prices of these old watches high. $80,000 for an old Rolex GMT. 😂 or Submariner. Are you kidding me! Scarcity apparently makes a watch more valuable. Actually it means look at something else if it’s not available. Thank God for Tudor. 😊
@mickfpmcolo5478
@mickfpmcolo5478 26 күн бұрын
A really good cover band👍
@platinum_knowledge
@platinum_knowledge 26 күн бұрын
I have no problem with Tudor, but I understand what they are. This is a brand that is filling the old Rolex $3-5k range and are satisfying that segment of the market with the robust tool watches of Rolex yesteryear. Their BB models are blatant Rolex homages. Hell even their "original" model, the Ranger, is a modern copy of their original Ranger. There is a clear brand identity, even if we would like that identity to be something different. The hypebeast marketing behind them now, however, could be the subject of a whole nother video.
@jphillips8338
@jphillips8338 25 күн бұрын
Until recently it was Tudor leading the way with innovation. Experimenting with different materials like 925 silver, titanium, and ceramic.
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