There Was Nothing That Says She Wanted to Be a Doctor | Application Renovation (S3 E20)

[@Maureen-MO]

What application renovation shows me is that reflection is a big part of the whole process. Your story needs time to be reflected on in order to explain your story and motivation. You have to be able to convey it to other people. Also, if you aren’t able to reflect on your own story and narrative, you can’t provide answers during the interview that can separate you from other candidates. You will at least be just like 50-100 other candidates coming in without something to make you different (which lies in your story). You don’t need to be able to cure cancer or build a world foundation to stand out. You could, but have the means to elaborate your motives, what this means for you and how you want to apply this moving forward. This process has opened my eyes to see my own story from another angle. Where I reflect on my own why. Most likely, you will find that there is a commonality or theme behind all the particular activities that you decided to take up. They speak to you vision and mission, and this is the story you need to provide.

[@MartialArtsCat101]

Very well said!

[@jules5006]

For real! This channel illuminates so many helpful tips I absolutely would have done lots of the things that I see in these videos if I applied this cycle without watching these videos. So grateful for this resource oml

[@Maureen-MO]

Reflection= Action that I did/experiences + Meaning (behind them and what they genuinely bring to the table for you )

[@laurenford8641]

I know this applicant will probably never read this comment, but I'm an MS3 right now and we have very similar applications in that I was also a college athlete! If you ever want help about how to spin that in a way that is super beneficial let me know.

[@CarsoroniAndCheese]

my fiancé is applying and he was a college athlete!

[@kylelogan3923]

Yes lmk

[@RainbowGage]

Remember when you heard the joke drink everytime someone says a word. I apply that to my essays. I try not to make the reader drunk off a word.(eye rolling) I find a synonym and if it doesn't work then I restructure the point I'm trying to get across.

[@taquitaholt5013]

This is very sound advice. Thank you for this!

[@TheMrplayitsafe]

imagine having a drink everytime u heard the word "potentially" said on this show. u'd be dead in ten minutes.

[@Nick_isk]

That’s crazy her app was decent but only got one interview. (The bar is in space by now)

[@Maureen-MO]

She actually didn’t have clinicals though. Shadowing is separate from clinicals. Stats were solid though. She could have told her story abit more as well

[@AhlSunnah111]

😂

[@jules5006]

I wouldn’t say the bar is in space, especially binge watching this YT channel. It seems like most people have a good shot of getting into med school if they can tell the story of themselves genuinely and how those experiences impacted others Also I think lots of people underestimate the personal statement Thank god i have another year to apply because if I applied this year, I would make soooooo many mistakes like a lot of the students shown on the channel make

[@stoneleachman9647]

It appears that this student has good experiences but needs more clinical experience and needs to really think about what being a doctor is about for her. Obviously her stats are great and her EC’s aren’t bad either (as long as she edits them to more story telling). The good news is that these are all easy fixes. She can definitely get into medical school next cycle if she makes the appropriate changes

[@stephaniegreen5287]

Hi Dr. Grey. I am not sure if you read the comments section but I would love to understand your statement about the story of Henry. Many minority applicants (Black, Latinx, Indiginous LGBTQIA, or low socioeconomic status applicants have seen the pitfalls in healthcare of treating those particular demographics, and for some seeing those downfalls might be a motivating factor for them to become a patient advocate and representative face in healthcare. Could you talk about or show a video on how you would talk about those experiences without coming off as negative?

[@nd3723]

I agree! alot of my "why" stems from my grandmother not receiving appropriate care in a rural area. My app has the theme of alleviating health disparities and I want to talk about what happened to my grandmother because I really think it helps tell my story.

[@marinal2705]

Right. Also people with chronic health conditions often get bounced from doctor to doctor within the system. I find many of these videos seem to present a takeaway: don't talk about medicine in a negative light. Don't we want future physicians to be acutely aware of the pitfalls of the system so that we change it? They clearly still want to be a physician as they apply...

[@IM12111]

I’m a first-gen college student, low-income, first-gen US citizen, and wrote my PS based on underserved communities, I can email you a copy of my PS if you’d like. (PS, I’m a MS1)

[@destiny.shantelle]

@@IM12111 could i see it? [e-mail]

[@IM12111]

@@destiny.shantelle for sure

[@RichObiQuan]

imo, she needs to really find time to dip deep into her soul and do some introspecting, to see if being a dr is really what she desires. I feel like you need to feel it in your soul and bones. and when telling your story it has to flow like one. That's my opinion.

[@kathleenchrist6534]

Any non-clinical volunteering with underserved communities?

[@ariannadiaz2155]

Wow, I am pretty excited you mentioned HIV. I am actually part of a research group that is working on a vaccine for HIV!

[@habib580]

Would being a physical therapist aid consider clinical experience? I work directly with the patients and I help them with their exercises.

[@colenelson9443]

Please don't quote me on this but I want to say yes, but then again it's with a physical therapist so idk how well that translates over for a medical school application.

[@habib580]

The only concern I have with this is admission boards questioning why I chose medicine and not physical therapy. (I originally took the job because it was a local job offered in town)

[@colenelson9443]

@@habib580 if push comes to shove you could just add it as an extracurricular and highlight how you worked with "patients" but I would be scared to count it as actual clinical experience since PT and a M.D. doctor are different worlds.

[@Lulu-gb7xu]

It is definitely clinical experience with a caveat... you want to make sure that’s not your only source of clinical experience. Have something else on your app that’s more traditional or working with an MD/DO

[@chosenone5346]

Yes it definitely counts as clinical experience, just make sure it's not your only clinical experience. Perhaps you can supplement it by volunteering in hospital and shadowing physicians as well, just an example of things u can do

[@TheXenoBrosMC]

Damn, only one paragrapgph? That's crazy

[@tiarragreen5913]

😂

[@WhoisSunless]

12:10 C. Elegance worms is a funny mistake

[@janicetimmins8070]

I notice a lot of the students say "like like like" I wonder how that comes through on their interview

[@thenightking7167]

@Janice Timmins, I wholeheartedly concur. Real-time speech fluency during interviews is absolutely vital. The excessive interjection of "like" as a "filler word" gives the (perhaps) false impression of lack of maturity, and intellectual sophistication.

[@jayrollo1352]

@@thenightking7167 It depends on the person interviewing you for sure.

[@sadiem6758]

I’m confused how shadowing is considered “padding” to the application?

[@maymay728886]

Since it’s not super impactful and can be lumped into one (not multiple)

[@jayrollo1352]

Gate keeping by boomer docs

[@kylelogan3923]

See, my advisor told me not to lump shadowing.. eh

[@steinervision7643]

Never heard of her college, where is it?

[@kylelogan3923]

Ohio

[@musicmeister1313]

its small as sht

[@nik-5638]

I think paragraph might have been spelled wrong

[@glaucusyellow]

☝️🤓

[@alexmartinez3683]

I noticed he never asks what schools they applied to to and whether or not their stats align with the school. If. you start asking that, I feel their outcomes would make a lot more sense.

[@PreppyLauren]

If you watch until the end he shows all the schools where she applied. He’s done that in every video I’ve watched

[@bakralkarawi9977]

Dr. Ryan, I'm inspired by your work. I have a question. I'm planning on pre-writing everything I will be putting on my aamcas. I hope there was some kind of application simulator where you get to familiarize yourself with the application, but that's not the case. I plan on pre writing everything on a document and I'm wondering if the services you offer can take a final look at the prewrite before I put it on the application and submit it? That way I don't waste time and be more prepared for the application once it opens. Thanks so much for everything you do for us ❤️

[@ishu4ever308]

if you’re applying this cycle or the next cycle you can always make an account (which you will prob already have from MCAT) and put things into the actual website but just don’t submit it so that way when you need to actually apply you’ll know what you need and don’t need

[@bakralkarawi9977]

@@ishu4ever308Thanks so much for the feedback, I still have a long way ahead of me, like three years until I apply, but looking at how difficult it is to get in, I feel the urge to be over-prepared for it. I haven't done my MCAT, can I still access the aamcas app?

[@habib580]

I wouldn’t over prep too much about it since you really don’t have any experiences to write about yet. When you do you experiences, make a long about what’s you do each day and start to think about “stories”

[@ishu4ever308]

@@bakralkarawi9977 If you have more than three years then I would not focus on the application aspect right now. Instead focus on building your GPA, making connections with supervisors and professors, studying well in intro courses so MCAT studying will go better, study for MCAT early, and start thinking of your stories. Having a template website will not help here as right now is the time to get involved with things you are passionate about. Don't think about checking the boxes but think about what you can do to get involved. That's what I would do.

[@JackieeLovee99]

Can you do one for dental school?

[@rishisolanki783]

I agree

[@habib580]

Just so you know dental school is a whole separate process and it’s pretty different

[@JackieeLovee99]

@@habib580 could you elaborate a little bit more please. Currently I’ve been applying his advice to my apps

[@habib580]

@@JackieeLovee99 well I think I exaggerated a bit. There are definitely some similar and cross over but he doesn’t do dental applications because the admissions process for dental school is a bit different

[@kylelogan3923]

Wow I put MME for shadowing.. only because I never saw a trauma before

[@seifelmankabadi2885]

she lied about her collegiate athletic hours, no shot some NAIA school got 4K hours. Against NCAA rules, nice job.

[@jayrollo1352]

Can you even get into med school without exaggerating your hours?

[@thaythichgiacngo]

US medical schools now prefer accepting pre-med students with low statistics but have good writing skills🤣

[@kylelogan3923]

Omgg my stories are great my MCAT is trash

[@AhlSunnah111]

Lol

[@Lex2034-f7y]

It’s about showing why you want to be a doctor and connecting to people. Stats only shows one perspective. There are many smart docs who have poor bedside manner, poor connection with patients and poor patient outcomes but had great stats. Doesn’t matter how well your MCAT score is if you don’t value people, diversity, etc.

[@thaythichgiacngo]

@@Lex2034-f7y so MCAT should be discarded out of the requirements then, just take stories and interviews

[@kylelogan3923]

Interests in primary care ? She could be great for DO too

[@dma67111]

Dr grey..you’re pretty fit

[@glaucusyellow]

This guys a fraud