FULL PART TWO: Our Thoughts on Gina Rodriguez Singing the N-Word

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4 жыл бұрын

Real fam, what are your thoughts?

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@jessy123852
@jessy123852 4 жыл бұрын
If I can sing a song with my mom in the room and not say a single swear word, you can stop yourself from saying the n word.
@rebeccalove2065
@rebeccalove2065 4 жыл бұрын
Cheese Apple exactlyyy
@QaheemJehan
@QaheemJehan 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY✌🏾
@Fulani_Gal78
@Fulani_Gal78 4 жыл бұрын
Facts sis!!!👏👏👏
@misskris117
@misskris117 4 жыл бұрын
That part! 💯👏🏾
@heklapilar200
@heklapilar200 4 жыл бұрын
FACTZZZZZ
@JovianEmpress
@JovianEmpress 4 жыл бұрын
"If we can learn pronouns, then we can learn not to say the N word." Love it.
@victorstewart6993
@victorstewart6993 4 жыл бұрын
That part!
@irenebellettini3103
@irenebellettini3103 4 жыл бұрын
Where is it?
@chewnotchwe3384
@chewnotchwe3384 4 жыл бұрын
Irene Bellettini 1:10
@GigiMurakami
@GigiMurakami 4 жыл бұрын
WORDDDDDD
@Multiversetraveler93
@Multiversetraveler93 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need to come for another community to lift your own...
@simplytrinabean
@simplytrinabean 4 жыл бұрын
i feel like Loni and Amanda are speaking from two different generations
@kwesonabrams2906
@kwesonabrams2906 3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@laylay7179
@laylay7179 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@LaDiiNaya90
@LaDiiNaya90 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in Loni's generation (a little older than her). But I agree with Amanda. Problem is, Loni was so stuck on herself that she refused to HEAR Amanda. That came through clear, which then pissed off Amanda even more that Loni was flat out dismissing her without genuinely hearing her point.
@rickyo7061
@rickyo7061 Жыл бұрын
@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 that's not true. They were disagreeing with each other
@MrUnattainable
@MrUnattainable 4 жыл бұрын
Loni literally made Amanda’s entire point at the end and didn’t even realize it 😂
@MBCrusin
@MBCrusin 4 жыл бұрын
Right!!!!!😂
@chrivzy7084
@chrivzy7084 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@shivairas6717
@shivairas6717 4 жыл бұрын
Right! Her comments be confusing me sometimes
@Tay-cg1pt
@Tay-cg1pt 4 жыл бұрын
She didn’t. Her point was that the word shouldn’t be used. Jewish people made MJ take out the slur whereas these rappers will not do it, even though it would benefit the black community. Loni is saying they should take it out. Amanda is saying no.
@rubymunoz218
@rubymunoz218 4 жыл бұрын
Tay because most rappers are black. Mj wasn’t Jewish so he doesn’t have the right to use those slurs.
@THEGREEDYCOUPLE
@THEGREEDYCOUPLE 4 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen someone challenge Loni since Tamar Braxton days lol
@BigbossBonita
@BigbossBonita 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS she bring the REAL to the real. Without Amanda this show is Shallow
@NanaNaima1
@NanaNaima1 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigbossBonita I would like Amanda if she wasn't colorist
@sofiarodriguez6768
@sofiarodriguez6768 4 жыл бұрын
@@NanaNaima1 I feel that on such a deep level. Her comments and actions in the past have been past questionable. Hopefully she's grown and proves it on this show!
@allieeeekatt
@allieeeekatt 4 жыл бұрын
right , i dont like loni .. she not woke at all
@versatilevlogger9332
@versatilevlogger9332 4 жыл бұрын
Have a feeling this is why she is now an official cohost now! Loni finna go back to her place... y’all know she wasn’t like this when Tamar was there
@michiahnaylor7476
@michiahnaylor7476 4 жыл бұрын
This has been the most heated debate on the show 😂
@JudgeDredd_
@JudgeDredd_ 4 жыл бұрын
True and the facts are ain’t nobody trippin off of what homegrl said.
@yandhi_6382
@yandhi_6382 4 жыл бұрын
@@JudgeDredd_ I hurd she's anti black or doesn't associate herself with her black woman and that's a problem
@JudgeDredd_
@JudgeDredd_ 4 жыл бұрын
YTM_ Facade I’m literally looking across the room from several white coworkers who hate my black ass but I don’t care if they wanna rap some lyrics especially if it’s the Fugees Hahahaha. Ain’t nobody trippin. Its people out here trying to get money and eat tonight in these streets
@umaroof3708
@umaroof3708 4 жыл бұрын
Omg totally agree!!!
@stephaniesantiago7490
@stephaniesantiago7490 4 жыл бұрын
@@yandhi_6382 whether her stupid ass wants to admit she black or not she is 😂 and shes ignorant you want to say the word but dont want to admit that u have black in you. Just stupid
@BlkOnyx0508
@BlkOnyx0508 4 жыл бұрын
I Agree with Lonnie 110%. Its derogatory. Period.
@mcmandy086
@mcmandy086 4 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is, how come that woman says that when rappers use it, they are "sharing their story" if rap songs tend to be obsene and violent (not all of them). I don't think that when a rapper raps about being horny and uses the N word, he is "sharing" the history that comes with the N word. What he/she is doing is cashing in and willingly and knowingly recording these lines for the entire world to consume.
@asiamnow6832
@asiamnow6832 4 жыл бұрын
same
@cynthiap.2573
@cynthiap.2573 4 жыл бұрын
mcmandy086 BECAUSE THE RAPPER IS BLACK AND HE CAN. that is his right. black people took the slur and made it their own. no one else can say it or should want to. it’s not that hard to understand.
@schojdfjf6495
@schojdfjf6495 3 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Beans it’s sorta like making lemons into lemonade and taking that word back from the people that used it to oppress them
@livinlife8280
@livinlife8280 Ай бұрын
I actually agree with Loni
@JV9644
@JV9644 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Amanda here. Majority of rappers and artists these days throw that word around in songs talking about women, money, sex, drugs. So how is she going to say that they’re using the word because they’re “telling their story and black experience”... last time I checked that word had nothing to do with women, money, sex, or drugs. I agree with Loni, throw the whole word away.
@Fernanda-qh2uq
@Fernanda-qh2uq 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@Fernanda-qh2uq
@Fernanda-qh2uq 4 жыл бұрын
@@allthingsauz so if the word is used in a song about degrading women and doing drugs, it's okay to be used, when it was also used back then right before a black person was lynched?
@Fernanda-qh2uq
@Fernanda-qh2uq 4 жыл бұрын
@@allthingsauz I still just find it ironic that the word can be picked and chose when it is derogatory or not with the past story it has.
@allthingsauz
@allthingsauz 4 жыл бұрын
Fernanda Vazquez because the meaning has changed over time unless it’s “er”. It’s used in our community for greetings and in friendly manners unless we’re joking around. It’s not offensive between us. That’s not picking and choosing because we don’t say it to put each other down.
@bobsmith5441
@bobsmith5441 3 жыл бұрын
If you're making music and releasing it to the general public and you use the N word, you cannot be insulted if someone sings the words of the song that you wrote back to you. Ridiculous.
@kaaay40
@kaaay40 4 жыл бұрын
🗣 “If we could learn pronouns, we could learn not to say the n word!” 🗣👏🏾
@billyg3254
@billyg3254 4 жыл бұрын
She went awfff
@xbeautyofmakeup
@xbeautyofmakeup 4 жыл бұрын
she was speakin facts
@jahawalgern8273
@jahawalgern8273 4 жыл бұрын
Billy G periodddtttt
@carter_cam5532
@carter_cam5532 4 жыл бұрын
HUNGRYFoodie you obviously did not HEAR what she was saying... Thank u, next
@theacademyofsivasamoa
@theacademyofsivasamoa 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is transwomen don't go around calling themselves HE and then expecting you NOT to. There's a difference. Y'all tried it.
@Blackmixdwitblack
@Blackmixdwitblack 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone looks afraid of loni but Amanda wasn’t having it
@Asylashai
@Asylashai 4 жыл бұрын
tbh😂 the point is Amanda was bold enough to argue with Loni and no one else is ever. I think that’s what you’re saying in ur comment 💀
@heklapilar200
@heklapilar200 4 жыл бұрын
worldoftrowa she was not. black people can say whatever they want. white people are selfish n can’t pause for a second for a song ?!? that’s bullshit. it’s a word that nonblack people shouldnt be saying and that’s on that. if nonblack people have a problem with it then they shouldn’t be listening to music with that word.
@laurelfelipe
@laurelfelipe 4 жыл бұрын
I'm good on not saying that word, I'm with Loni though because I really don't like that word but I see what you all are saying about just don't listen. Is it worth it to continue to separate "races" like that though? You can be proud and powerful amoung non black people without creating a sort of black only, for lack of a better word, club of sorts. Before you say I don't understand and judge me for it she clearly said it wasn't for non black people to understand. It is just my opinion. It doesn't matter what people group you come from I love everyone and support everyone to my best ability.
@Facelessentertainmentlg
@Facelessentertainmentlg 4 жыл бұрын
ACTUALLY, I DID NOT SEE ANY FEAR AND AMANDA DID NOT PHASE ME. #LONIISRIGHT
@tealusional4494
@tealusional4494 4 жыл бұрын
Amanda and Jeanie and Adrienne are obviously very smart. Some people think the more they talk, the smarter they are when they're just talking in circles trying to confuse you while in their minds they search for trigger words like "Michael Jackson". It's like writing an essay with bullshit words but verbally with no research. Loni is a comedian?, so I wonder if she's ever used it in her comedy to express herself, I'll have to youtube deep dive & If so, that would make this conversation pretty hypocritical. Its like Loni considers herself the voice of blackness on the panel but she's pretty ignorant. She's not my spokesperson. She presents confidence but it just isn't genuine. I guess she's trying to prove a point but it's not sharp enough 💁🏽
@DeborahWalkerXOXO
@DeborahWalkerXOXO 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with Loni. We just don't NEED to "own" that word. It shouldn't be erased from books etc of the past, but it shouldn't be something that our elders hear from our mouths. Not when they mostly heard it as an attack.
@BIGIMAMA2002
@BIGIMAMA2002 4 жыл бұрын
That's is 💯
@ronnie6696
@ronnie6696 4 жыл бұрын
girl racist ppl gonna use that word regardless whether its in a song or not
@villanelle1411
@villanelle1411 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronnie6696 so how are we "taking something back" if that's the case?
@Goldenxbih
@Goldenxbih 4 жыл бұрын
Bullshit.
@Goldenxbih
@Goldenxbih 4 жыл бұрын
Ronnie EXACTLY
@joelsotelo2437
@joelsotelo2437 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like loni was trying to say you gotta be the change you if you wanna see a change. like change up the lyrics from that to something else so it doesn’t give anyone a chance to be saying it “accidentally”. idk I fr feel tho i don’t use the word nor do i like it but i feel like i side with loni hard coreee
@jasonxavier2030
@jasonxavier2030 4 жыл бұрын
Joel sotelo you’re cute
@YourLittleBluebird
@YourLittleBluebird 4 жыл бұрын
That is a different conversation though, one which non-black people like Gina Rodriguez play NO part in. People who are not black cannot say the word. Period.
@user-es1lm1lm7q
@user-es1lm1lm7q 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonxavier2030 😏
@Fueunachimba
@Fueunachimba 3 жыл бұрын
But that doesn't make any sense though because we're not trying to prevent black people from saying it, we're trying to prevent people who aren't black from saying it. We're not trying to ban the word altogether
@natalieh8023
@natalieh8023 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@littlejoe9381
@littlejoe9381 4 жыл бұрын
Not ALL Black, African American, or people of color use the “n” word among themselves. This word may be considered a cultural thing to some Black people, but not ALL of them use it.
@4knewt505
@4knewt505 4 жыл бұрын
not I, said the cat.
@noni706
@noni706 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly up to them though
@Amber_Aviva
@Amber_Aviva 4 жыл бұрын
Little Joe I agree with you bc elderly people might be triggered by it
@CoCo-js7ff
@CoCo-js7ff 4 жыл бұрын
I'm black I don't like anyone black, white or purple calling me that. I don't like the term whether it's with an a or er. But to each its own.
@yahainHotPink
@yahainHotPink 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I hate that word!!
@lexdavis99
@lexdavis99 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody said “ Loni Got A White Man and Don’t Know How To Act “ 🥴 I’m Weak 🤣🤣🤣😭
@Davidvr723
@Davidvr723 4 жыл бұрын
when was did lmao
@toodiecolormebadd8021
@toodiecolormebadd8021 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the lie 🤣🤣
@user-dl9lq4ez9x
@user-dl9lq4ez9x 4 жыл бұрын
Lex Davis who she is having sex with has nothing to do with it 👀
@kimberlythomas8964
@kimberlythomas8964 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😩
@Imokayluv
@Imokayluv 4 жыл бұрын
Loni can state her opinion on the use of this word without getting told that she doesn't know how to act. I'm so sick of people attacking Loni for no reason and I'm tired of people attacking those who have a differing opinion than the majority.
@aishariel9924
@aishariel9924 4 жыл бұрын
Amanda is a very smart individual, but I can’t stand her. We just have completely different views. I agree with Loni 💯. Even Oprah said Black ppl should not use it amongst themselves to diminish the use of the word in pop culture. Why do Black ppl want to say it so much if it’s so offensive? And why is it not ok for a non-black person to discuss about race? If Black ppl want inclusivity, it starts with open conversation.
@teameta7823
@teameta7823 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Either don't use the word at all, or expect all people to say it, even though it's wrong.
@HairByPierre
@HairByPierre 4 жыл бұрын
Amanda explained why..... she said black ppl use it to take the derogatory word from the oppressor and use it to express their black experience/turn it into empowerment. So why would we be okay with someone who is not black using it? It’s our empowerment not theirs. Personally I don’t like the word, the word to me = ignorant. But as a black persons I understand the cultural meaning she’s expressing
@TheDemisemismiles
@TheDemisemismiles 4 жыл бұрын
HairByPierre my question is....why would you want to use that word? Imagine (if you believe) after death you meet your ancestors and are like “my n****a” or “whats up n****a”. Imagine how disgusted and disappointed they would be? This word was used during beatings, lynchings etc.... I just don’t understand why you continue to say it?
@montana8779
@montana8779 4 жыл бұрын
Aish, the reason why black people say the word has nothing to do with anybody else, besides blacks, and it does not need to be explained. It is okay for a non-black person to discuss race, just not the black race. This is simply because a non-black person has not lived the black experience. Therefore, they cannot speak on the struggles or the experiences of black people. The black experience is wayyyyy more layered than what a non-black person can observe. Not understand, but observe. If a non-black person understood blacks, they’d also know the origin of the word and would be sensitive to it. And therefore, choose not to use it. I can never understand why non-black races would choose to say one word that could potentially offend someone else. Also, black people are PASSED inclusivity, what we want is equality, which is a difference. Now it seems that non-black people want to be inclusive with blacks, but they are still not invited to say that word.. And lastly, the black community has disowned Oprah, so her opinion on blackness doesn’t even matter. I hope this helps❤️
@HairByPierre
@HairByPierre 4 жыл бұрын
TheDemisemismiles reread my whole statement.
@jackieburns2001
@jackieburns2001 4 жыл бұрын
Loni you were absolutely correct. The word was never meant in the fashion it is used today and too many people are comfortable with it. THat's a problem.!
@Keyeradraws
@Keyeradraws 4 жыл бұрын
PERIOD
@milahgoode
@milahgoode 4 жыл бұрын
Loni Love is not here for it lol. She wouldn’t back down. I respect her for that, and I share the same option. Please stop saying the N word. It’s a slur. Not a term of endearment
@OrangeMilkBlossom
@OrangeMilkBlossom 4 жыл бұрын
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y. I wish no one would use the word. End of.
@jarvarisgreene70
@jarvarisgreene70 4 жыл бұрын
She is dating a white man..what you expect?
@breh2001
@breh2001 4 жыл бұрын
if its a slur to u then don't use it. but its a term of endearment for other black people and i don't think we should just erase that.
@jarvarisgreene70
@jarvarisgreene70 4 жыл бұрын
@@christylouis2611 yes it does..she always dismiss black issues.
@clementine8397
@clementine8397 4 жыл бұрын
jarvaris greene this is the first white man she’s dated.
@nijerikagreen8033
@nijerikagreen8033 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Jeannie had the most common sense answer to this whole situation. We’re all humans and, for the most part, capable of using our brains so why is it so hard for someone to just not say a word???
@brumtownmiller6130
@brumtownmiller6130 4 жыл бұрын
nijerika green why is it so hard not to say it for black folk! Loni was tight, no other race uses racial slurs as a term of endearment!
@ABIIIIisVICKY
@ABIIIIisVICKY 4 жыл бұрын
Brumtown Milla we dont all use it sir, so dont even generalise on that count, why do you feel so entitled to say it 🤢
@jesussaves4634
@jesussaves4634 4 жыл бұрын
100% what Jeannie said! I dont listen to secular music at all any more, but when I did or when I was singing along I never said the word because it just felt wrong and I didn't feel OK with using it even though it was part of the song.
@jeremiahtray5621
@jeremiahtray5621 4 жыл бұрын
You're the reason why I say common sense is dead. Common sense is not using the word at all. Rapper, black, white etc. Just don't use the word. If it's in the song people are going to go with it. That's common sense.
@jeremiahtray5621
@jeremiahtray5621 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesussaves4634 But why put it in the song? That's stupid.
@Tay-cg1pt
@Tay-cg1pt 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like only the young ones on this board are having trouble understanding the validity and soundness of Loni’s perspective. This generation is so watered down.
@Raquel-rg8eq
@Raquel-rg8eq 3 жыл бұрын
Im latina i switch the word to “brotha , sista “
@deej3162
@deej3162 4 жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand why non black people wanna say the word so bad
@wavethewolf8576
@wavethewolf8576 4 жыл бұрын
Because they think they're all about that life.
@CharliEdwards
@CharliEdwards 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why black people wanna say it so bad.
@Jehu_Adonai
@Jehu_Adonai 4 жыл бұрын
They hate feeling excluded
@xafahxafah1476
@xafahxafah1476 4 жыл бұрын
cuz they wanna b black and act like their black to b part of the pop culture wave is all. to non blacks it sum cool to say.
@stellamanurung519
@stellamanurung519 4 жыл бұрын
the same with why rapper use bitch and hoe on their lyrics? and then sell a millions albums
@aka1r
@aka1r 4 жыл бұрын
loni said “carry the 1” 😂😂
@jeminkim5146
@jeminkim5146 4 жыл бұрын
what does that mean
@NickyM_0
@NickyM_0 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, what does it mean????
@sonatashinome4672
@sonatashinome4672 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve only heard African people use it 😂😂 She’s basically saying you can do whatever with it but...
@jhonathanpitty6157
@jhonathanpitty6157 4 жыл бұрын
Im with Lonnie, they want to put it in all the records and in jokes and movies. If you don’t want others to repeat it , don’t put it out there of the world to use it !
@Sonicxis4ever
@Sonicxis4ever 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@brendanb7729
@brendanb7729 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Princetonlove34
@Princetonlove34 4 жыл бұрын
No! Just don't say the f*cking word, it's not that hard
@MeMe-ht2hd
@MeMe-ht2hd 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of blacks are against it but Artist and Producers okay it in music and movies
@kavaniawilson860
@kavaniawilson860 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@biancastorm6570
@biancastorm6570 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree with Lonnie on this one!!!! Stop using it period. I do believe it's too far gone now in the rap industry- But record companies can change this moving forward "if they cared".
@amayagrinstead4553
@amayagrinstead4553 Жыл бұрын
ummm no. thanks bianca
@adelesmith7068
@adelesmith7068 4 жыл бұрын
Love these types of debates where there's a difference in opinion, both Loni and Amanda giving strong points and showing passion then when it's all said and done, they agree to disagree then move.
@tinotendacharmaine
@tinotendacharmaine 4 жыл бұрын
@nicole chinwamafuku come here
@LailahLynnTV
@LailahLynnTV 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up using that word but I had to let it go. It’s not worth defending.
@shanda01114
@shanda01114 4 жыл бұрын
Lailah, Lailah, Lailah, tells it all. Nice to see you here! 😁
@adoll6173
@adoll6173 4 жыл бұрын
Lailah Lynn shut up
@chosenone3527
@chosenone3527 4 жыл бұрын
@@adoll6173 You shut up
@CreativelyKia
@CreativelyKia 4 жыл бұрын
Lailah Lynn yeah I just think there more important things to worry about. Like Gina in my opinion shouldn’t be canceled because ppl love to choose when and if that offends them. Atleast she’s Latina if she was white it def would not have been okay for me lol
@dianaj2110
@dianaj2110 4 жыл бұрын
@@CreativelyKia The issue is Gina distance her self from the black community previously and said she does not consider herself black. So if she made it a point to clarify she doesn't identify as black, she needs to make it a point not to say the n word.
@antoinethegemini4268
@antoinethegemini4268 4 жыл бұрын
"If we can learn pronouns we can learn not to say the N-Word" --Amanda Seals: Thank you, always wanna make accommodations for EVERYONE except black ppl.
@rosesmiles2384
@rosesmiles2384 3 жыл бұрын
No one else makes music with their derogatory terms in it except black people. Shouldn’t be using it at all because the original meaning isn’t even the same anymore in the songs and white people don’t get it
@somebody13324
@somebody13324 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Loni, imagine in like 20 years or something when new young generations comes along and they hear the word they’re not gonna think that it’s bad and can only be said by a specific group of people. It just needs to go away
@marianaya5824
@marianaya5824 Жыл бұрын
It does not need to go away. Black people need to stay in touch with our history and the lessons we learned in the past and also understand our artist's use of the word. Again, non-black people who say the words WANT to say the word.
@vanfran9857
@vanfran9857 4 жыл бұрын
“ if we can learn pronouns then we can not say the n-word” woah
@brittanymoore984
@brittanymoore984 4 жыл бұрын
van fran that part
@alexram7957
@alexram7957 4 жыл бұрын
Ain’t nobody gonna use pronouns but the mentally ill
@Yude_000
@Yude_000 4 жыл бұрын
this!
@sarahbond689
@sarahbond689 4 жыл бұрын
Why we learning pronouns
@GuerreroDelInfo
@GuerreroDelInfo 4 жыл бұрын
What's a pronoun?
@rachel28denise
@rachel28denise 4 жыл бұрын
I'm black and I can't stand that word with a passion.
@ziarrahshabazz9443
@ziarrahshabazz9443 4 жыл бұрын
rachel28denise Same here 🤦🏾‍♀️
@NickyM_0
@NickyM_0 4 жыл бұрын
The same! It is beyond me the resistence by some Black American in fighting to use the N word. In their minds it makes complete sense.
@kailyn7895
@kailyn7895 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kovuBug
@kovuBug 4 жыл бұрын
I don't typically use the word, but I completely understand the people who do. It's just understanding that the word means something completely different depending on who says it. It means "black brother" among black folks bc we are all a family, a community who was oppressed together and still face with the aftermath together. It's not inferior among each other, it's empowering by uniting us. Therefore, it's just wrong when someone outside of that community uses it.
@Dem0nD0ll
@Dem0nD0ll 4 жыл бұрын
Chips That’s being a hypocrite.
@emmyabreu9564
@emmyabreu9564 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with Loni 🙌🏽 Amanda is totally wrong for being so close minded and thinking her perspective is the only one that counts
@annemhembere1601
@annemhembere1601 4 жыл бұрын
Emmy Abreu, I totally agree with you. Amanda thinks she is the most educated one amongst all them.
@dianamelissa6100
@dianamelissa6100 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally agreed with you
@Peter-hz5nk
@Peter-hz5nk 4 жыл бұрын
100th like :)
@ajatattyana3205
@ajatattyana3205 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree
@vaniacastillo2465
@vaniacastillo2465 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, Loni.
@NerdyBird99
@NerdyBird99 4 жыл бұрын
Rule of thumb: Don’t say the word if you have the privilege of NOT having to deal with the day-to-day systematic racism and micro aggressions that come along with it.
@Dem0nD0ll
@Dem0nD0ll 4 жыл бұрын
Miss Divine The victim mentality doesn’t look good on you 🤣🤣
@HairByPierre
@HairByPierre 4 жыл бұрын
Fok Julie the oppressive mentality don’t look good on you boo
@ImJustShayeB
@ImJustShayeB 4 жыл бұрын
Say that sis
@mcbuckets813
@mcbuckets813 4 жыл бұрын
So why do mixed people say it ? Mixed people don’t see the same type of racism and discrimination that dark skinned people do cause they’re so damn attractive. Being good looking leads to a lot of privilege unfortunately. I mean Amanda and Adriana damn near look like sister yet one can use it and the other can’t ?
@Goldenxbih
@Goldenxbih 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Mime mixed people are the best looking people on the planet? Lmao I’m not going to read any further.
@NeckyMinaj
@NeckyMinaj 4 жыл бұрын
Just like Adrienne said... If you have to second quess yourself about using a certain word.. That should tell you right there that maybe you shouldn't say it. #commonsenseppl✨
@NeckyMinaj
@NeckyMinaj 4 жыл бұрын
Common sense ain't to common
@vlo4829
@vlo4829 4 жыл бұрын
But why are you second guessing yourself? Is it because you're "racist" or because some hypocritical idiot might be around faking outrage?
@elyrose4090
@elyrose4090 4 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@brumtownmiller6130
@brumtownmiller6130 4 жыл бұрын
Common sense word not to use that word at all! NO OTHER RACE USES SLURS AS A TERM OF ENDEARMENT! We deadass dumb as other races think we are!
@theordinarylifeofadreamer
@theordinarylifeofadreamer 4 жыл бұрын
here's my question though, if the word is an offensive word that insults the black man, why do they still have to keep calling themselves that same word that brings back so many historical bad memories?
@victoriasmith2965
@victoriasmith2965 4 жыл бұрын
Sweater Girl I don't understand that either. They love calling eachother the same word that was super derogatory in the past.
@Mychelupis
@Mychelupis 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sofrshsocln4
@sofrshsocln4 4 жыл бұрын
Same reason a group of females/gay males calling themselves bitch wouldn't be having a straight dude join in. They're not part of the group, not part of the culture
@sailorhamlett
@sailorhamlett 4 жыл бұрын
It’s called reclaiming a word and taking the power back from the oppressor.
@Sonicxis4ever
@Sonicxis4ever 4 жыл бұрын
I’m black and I never use the N word. It’s derogatory. Just because we’re using it in a different way in modern days doesn’t mean the true meaning isn’t behind it. I’m also gay and could never use the F word to describe myself or another gay person. I was bullied all throughout high school and now if I hear that word all I hear is hatred
@Autumn_Blessings
@Autumn_Blessings 4 жыл бұрын
If I can memorize every kendrick lamar song and never say the n word in my life then you can skip over it too
@blakesmith4109
@blakesmith4109 3 жыл бұрын
Right but this debate isn’t about what you can do, it’s about what you should do. Who has the permission to say the word? Who should be and who shouldn’t be saying the word?
@Autumn_Blessings
@Autumn_Blessings 3 жыл бұрын
@@blakesmith4109 not me
@blakesmith4109
@blakesmith4109 3 жыл бұрын
@@Autumn_Blessings I feel the same way for myself too, and like you said you learn songs without saying it, I would add on I do not sing songs containing such language out loud in public loud spaces either (club/party/bar etc) because people see your lips moving and assume you’re singing all parts of the song.
@blakesmith4109
@blakesmith4109 3 жыл бұрын
@@Autumn_Blessings also would you mind sharing why you choose not say it?
@Autumn_Blessings
@Autumn_Blessings 3 жыл бұрын
@@blakesmith4109 I can only control myself not how others perceive me. I don't say it because I don't want to hurt anybody and i understand the history behind it. It's not my word. Not everything is meant for you and that's okay.
@daniellesanders9677
@daniellesanders9677 4 жыл бұрын
Jeannie Mai should not understand more than Loni.
@staffordduncan2821
@staffordduncan2821 4 жыл бұрын
U said it right because Jenny gave the best answer in my opinion
@winleel
@winleel 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely sis!! Jeannie is ALWAYS so insightful. She’s open in a way that Loni never is.
@kennethdavis1766
@kennethdavis1766 4 жыл бұрын
Also Jeannie is with a black man so she understands and has educated herself with our experience. Kudos to her for that.
@tashboog
@tashboog 4 жыл бұрын
Danielle Sanders for fact 🤦🏾‍♀️
@tashboog
@tashboog 4 жыл бұрын
Telisha3 Claiborne damn this was ON POINT.. well said 👏🏾
@paballomodisane3159
@paballomodisane3159 4 жыл бұрын
Why do we have to cut the videos into million parts though🤔
@mmconceicao
@mmconceicao 4 жыл бұрын
WHYYYYY... @thereal... Just do longer videos
@ariela.1752
@ariela.1752 4 жыл бұрын
Views 😂
@MRFLAPPYTREE
@MRFLAPPYTREE 4 жыл бұрын
People still making money off the n word lol.
@jade9919
@jade9919 4 жыл бұрын
Cuz they were cussing
@roxana4136
@roxana4136 4 жыл бұрын
So they can be trending ...which they are
@kamirinc
@kamirinc 3 жыл бұрын
Did they even share their thoughts about Gina saying it tho lol Amanda was the only one reminding them “this specific issue”
@brinaechanel4236
@brinaechanel4236 3 жыл бұрын
Right , I Miss Her On The Show
@Keyeradraws
@Keyeradraws 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Loni. The girl to her right, I see what she means but I just don’t agree with her at all. Thank god she quit.
@schojdfjf6495
@schojdfjf6495 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@courtskirk4881
@courtskirk4881 4 жыл бұрын
“If we can learn pronouns, and people can learn not to say the n-word” and I oop-
@glove3694
@glove3694 4 жыл бұрын
Did she lie tho
@youtubeuseri57
@youtubeuseri57 4 жыл бұрын
Courtskirk plenty of people don’t say pronouns though
@thr3385
@thr3385 4 жыл бұрын
Bitches could barely learn pronouns
@katiem4539
@katiem4539 4 жыл бұрын
THIS PART!!!!!!!! EXACTLY. If we can call Bruce Jenner SHE, then dude. You can skip the N word in a song out of respect for a culture of people.
@mia8009
@mia8009 4 жыл бұрын
Case closed right there!!!
@ranaewill1885
@ranaewill1885 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I was able to sing rap songs, not daring to slip out a cuss word in front of my mom or by myself. If you don’t say it on the regular, it’s extremely hard to just let it “slip out”. It’s so simple to just not say it.
@JoJo-op5xy
@JoJo-op5xy 4 жыл бұрын
She’s a Latina from nyc she had a pass to say it. She probably grow up with that word. The problem was all the previous stuff she said before was anti black.
@ranaewill1885
@ranaewill1885 4 жыл бұрын
HowE Lee yea I understand that, I’m just saying for other cases. I should have made that clear.
@MH-et4bo
@MH-et4bo 4 жыл бұрын
HowE Lee there is no universal past
@NickyM_0
@NickyM_0 4 жыл бұрын
That's you and not everybody thinks, operates or is as disciplined as you. If it wasn't in the song, especially with the negative feelings about the N word, people wouldn't be able to sing aong with what was said. If you don't want your children/teenager/relatives to see/use/talk about your adult toys, you don't leave them lying around the house.Even though it is your house and you pay the mortgage. Period.
@NickyM_0
@NickyM_0 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoJo-op5xy 100% FACT. Where is the outrage for Cardi B making a living using the N word??? People made a stink about her using roaches but NOT the N word. If Gina was a rapper, would she get a pass? Irrespective of whether she was Black or not.
@ms.moniquebrown6754
@ms.moniquebrown6754 4 жыл бұрын
NOBODY should be saying the N Word. PERIOD! I thought Amanda had more sense than that. Loni was 100% RIGHT. Signed: A Black Woman.
@janeenkuffler83
@janeenkuffler83 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with Loni on this one. Never felt empowered by this word and never will. I feel we are hurting the Black community more than uplifting by this word that was never made to uplift us but target us and belittle us. We should be questioning this word more than anything Period.
@angelesfatima2605
@angelesfatima2605 4 жыл бұрын
Okay everyone was talking at the same time during this segment and it annoyed me lol.
@free2rhyme29100
@free2rhyme29100 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment cause I knew it couldn’t be the only one lol
@fayepatrice1672
@fayepatrice1672 4 жыл бұрын
And Loni was the biggest culprit
@Jerbrousky
@Jerbrousky 4 жыл бұрын
Loni wasn’t the biggest culprit at all Amanda was talking over the whole cast the whole topic.. this topic was a mess! Wish it could’ve been better discussed. Amanda got WAY to in her feelings.
@noors7754
@noors7754 4 жыл бұрын
Graffiti Girl amanda spoke facts and was confident!
@w.iroses
@w.iroses 4 жыл бұрын
Noor Selim nah she’s ignorant loni should have been allowed to talk more she was spitting facts.
@reshmasomething
@reshmasomething 4 жыл бұрын
Some people would refuse to say Voldemort's name but wanna say the N word 😑😑
@rebeccalove2065
@rebeccalove2065 4 жыл бұрын
Reshma Something facts 😂😂
@mercedestaylor790
@mercedestaylor790 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Hebisan
@Hebisan 4 жыл бұрын
Lol🤣
@allyouget4960
@allyouget4960 4 жыл бұрын
Is that the guy from Harry Potter?
@1DerwinsWife
@1DerwinsWife 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooooooo
@jolivar9141
@jolivar9141 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly nothing was addressed... Amanda got all mad as Loni was trying to make a point and that’s how it ended.
@zaria1758
@zaria1758 4 жыл бұрын
julissa Olivares bc loni was wrong. loni be the loudest one and be so wrong. lonis point was invalid at the end bc she contradicted herself
@MissNila051486
@MissNila051486 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgot about when J-Lo used it when Ja wrote her a song.
@bw1190
@bw1190 3 жыл бұрын
MrsNila0514. She was told to say not by her own admission.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 5 ай бұрын
She's Puerto Rican and grew up in black neighborhoods.
@kmallory99
@kmallory99 Ай бұрын
NOPE. We didn't forget.
@MissNila051486
@MissNila051486 Ай бұрын
@@belladonna5904 she still got heat for it
@sarajay7631
@sarajay7631 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with loni, nobody should be using the n word. It’s an awful word and the real meaning can’t be changed.
@ShelbieMua
@ShelbieMua 4 жыл бұрын
But it already has been changed by us who changed it ourselves. To tell someone of that ancestry not to use a powerfully positive term is not okay. If any other race chose to take an offensive slur and make it a word of endearment, who are you or anyone else to say it's not okay to use?
@feasted2941
@feasted2941 4 жыл бұрын
Chelle B YOUR the one saying that, LOL.
@ShelbieMua
@ShelbieMua 4 жыл бұрын
@@feasted2941 You're not making much sense to me. What do you mean?
@xoxo9479
@xoxo9479 4 жыл бұрын
if we can learn pronouns then we can learn not to use it !!!! PERIODTT
@caaa825
@caaa825 3 жыл бұрын
Loni looked she was ready to throw Amanda off the stage lol you can read it all over her face
@oreovega4ever
@oreovega4ever 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really loving the real lately like seriously!!🤪🤪😝
@jhaisuhmone8323
@jhaisuhmone8323 4 жыл бұрын
I’m black and I personally don’t use the word.
@MrGamecatCanaveral
@MrGamecatCanaveral 4 жыл бұрын
@@agathejoseph845 um it's Africa Americans. Not black.
@alexanderbrown2717
@alexanderbrown2717 4 жыл бұрын
Jhai Suhmone what word?
@patriciacolors7178
@patriciacolors7178 4 жыл бұрын
No it is Black American or A.D.O.S.African American is an African immigrant to the U.S.A. Not people who have been here for 400 years.
@jhaisuhmone8323
@jhaisuhmone8323 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Brown the N word
@jhaisuhmone8323
@jhaisuhmone8323 4 жыл бұрын
Agathe Joseph SAME!
@supreemcourt9181
@supreemcourt9181 4 жыл бұрын
This debate is forever. The thing about debates is there’s NEVER a final answer for it, it’s jus people sharing perspectives...
@santanaoutlaw
@santanaoutlaw 4 жыл бұрын
The final answer is, & has always been, don’t say it if you’re not back.
@Aylaa382
@Aylaa382 4 жыл бұрын
Supreem Court well common sense says if you ain’t black don’t say it unless you want problems 🤷🏽‍♀️
@supreemcourt9181
@supreemcourt9181 4 жыл бұрын
@Ericka Chapman theres people that are mixed with black, but dont look black, that will feel entitled to say it and they'll debate u
@angel-ti7nd
@angel-ti7nd 4 жыл бұрын
there shouldn’t be a debate. if u not black DONT SAY IT wtf is that hard part?
@supreemcourt9181
@supreemcourt9181 4 жыл бұрын
@@angel-ti7ndwell this show has a whole segment on it
@VONiiE8
@VONiiE8 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why ppl can’t understand that it’s inappropriate for nonblack ppl to say the word. Just like it’s inappropriate for kid to curse, it’s inappropriate for non black ppl to say it. The concept isn’t hard.
@bohlalenchabeleng1370
@bohlalenchabeleng1370 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Amanda ruffles our brains, she makes you take many aspects into account. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@leahmay1506
@leahmay1506 4 жыл бұрын
“If we can learn to say pronouns, we can learn not to say the N word.” On period 💯💯
@emanipettiford868
@emanipettiford868 4 жыл бұрын
Naw
@hottea9546
@hottea9546 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah now I wish a lot of black people were so adamant about Actually being respectful to use the proper pronouns as much as they want people to stop using the N word.
@leahmay1506
@leahmay1506 4 жыл бұрын
GutterPunk I agree!! But the point is that people can learn... hopefully one day we’re all on the same page.
@leahmay1506
@leahmay1506 4 жыл бұрын
@O what does what mean?
@disneytoysr4fun975
@disneytoysr4fun975 4 жыл бұрын
but ain't nobody saying pronouns lol. We don't even like being called cis!(I agree with it).
@jazzmayne6
@jazzmayne6 4 жыл бұрын
Amanda needs to stay on there, I live how she was opposed to Loni lol like finally someone speaks up and I completely side with Amanda! I am Mexican and I know I have no business using that word.
@LalaMiyagi
@LalaMiyagi 4 жыл бұрын
jazzmayne6 facts
@mitchellmanicone190
@mitchellmanicone190 4 жыл бұрын
@B3llet Truth no
@victoriadykes8311
@victoriadykes8311 4 жыл бұрын
jazzmayne6 point is the N Word still holds the same meaning rather it ends With an A or Er.... Not a term of endearment it’s offensive. Amanda is ignorant and can’t handle the opinions of other people when it comes to ones that don’t match up to hers... I have a feeling she won’t be on there very long
@sweetrisse
@sweetrisse 4 жыл бұрын
I so agree. She is not afraid to speak up
@nhoyte6955
@nhoyte6955 4 жыл бұрын
Preach
@keishaeller6714
@keishaeller6714 2 жыл бұрын
Loni showed who she is every time. I hope she learns that no Black person can ever tap dance hard enough to appease racists.
@Fusemoree
@Fusemoree 2 жыл бұрын
Period!!
@katel3259
@katel3259 4 жыл бұрын
The same people who say “people of a minority race can’t be racist” are the same people saying “Gina isn’t black so she can’t sing the N word”... so hypocritical. I don’t say that word, and don’t want to say that word, but that pisses me off how hypocritical people can be with issues like this
@Jay22B
@Jay22B 4 жыл бұрын
Kate L Gina made sure to distance herself from any African heritage she may have so people just following suit.
@johnanderson3899
@johnanderson3899 4 жыл бұрын
"People outside that culture don't have to understand it" But you get mad when they don't understand and mad when they use it? You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You cannot keep repeating and over-using it in pop-culture and expect to control so many people from using it. In an ideal world you will be able to have your cake and eat it, but it's not based on reality. Your idealism is taking over your rationality. The Jews don't use their slur to your extreme, so it's a false comparison when they wish to censor it for others.
@amrhm6481
@amrhm6481 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of agree with Loni , if artists stop using the word so much , people would use it less
@BodyMindfulRelaxation
@BodyMindfulRelaxation 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm with Loni, stop using the word point blank. We can't fight racism if words like this still exist where only a certain group can say it. It still creates segregation. We are one race, the human race!
@nessawithsmiles
@nessawithsmiles 4 жыл бұрын
Amr Hm People have brains... don’t use the word it isn’t mean for you. Do you do everything songs say?
@endlesschapters9185
@endlesschapters9185 4 жыл бұрын
It is way too late for that. Way too many passes given. Even if they stopped using it in songs The usage of that word would still continue in everyday life just as much as before
@blackenvy983
@blackenvy983 4 жыл бұрын
Loni sounds like she's okay with cultural appropriation smh
@missmack2328
@missmack2328 4 жыл бұрын
So i guess rap was really popular on the plantation
@eseosaosawe4212
@eseosaosawe4212 4 жыл бұрын
Jeannie made the most sense to me👌🏼
@momom4548
@momom4548 4 жыл бұрын
2.52 this is the kind of mentality that's creating more division.
@garnetalex6561
@garnetalex6561 4 жыл бұрын
Yessssz loni omg I finally agree lol I luv u
@yonwabasive6269
@yonwabasive6269 4 жыл бұрын
"If you're unsure about using the word, DONT USE IT"
@servingtea8483
@servingtea8483 4 жыл бұрын
Yonwaba Sive exactly
@luciusleft-foot2386
@luciusleft-foot2386 4 жыл бұрын
How are you going to enforce that in other people's communities tho
@olivianwaokocha5955
@olivianwaokocha5955 4 жыл бұрын
@@luciusleft-foot2386 by calling people out. Its not fair if non POC are still using it against black people but want to claim it in a song. Can't have both
@Iberny3
@Iberny3 4 жыл бұрын
Liv Non POC? You mean someone who is not BLACK? Are you scared of the word black?
@luciusleft-foot2386
@luciusleft-foot2386 4 жыл бұрын
@@olivianwaokocha5955 and what happens when people stop caring? Because there is a thing called activism fatigue. All anyone ever has to do is get more people to say it to drown out the people who don't want you to say it. Why even bother with it. This is a losing battle and it's been lost since you could sell the word via rap. People paying for music don't want to be told they can't sing a specific word. So rappers are going to acquiesce to the majority that support them than the minority that they are, because that's how capitalism works.
@jonnystaydizzy
@jonnystaydizzy 4 жыл бұрын
LONI Said “A, ER, Carry the 1” 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣.
@AngelHxze
@AngelHxze 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Piper II 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Goldenxbih
@Goldenxbih 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it
@Morotay
@Morotay 4 жыл бұрын
いきすちそ to Loni it doesn’t matter how ppl reconfigure the word Bc the base of the word is still there and it’s wrong in her opinion to use any variation of the word.
@iLeona296
@iLeona296 2 жыл бұрын
That was her comedian coming out 😂😂😂
@lonewolfislit
@lonewolfislit 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this right when she said it 🤣
@aimeem.h5909
@aimeem.h5909 4 жыл бұрын
I remember sitting in the living room one night and my dad had a couple of friends over they were playing dominoes. They hadn't seen this one friend for a while he had been away on work to another country. At one point when they were laughing and joking, someone used the N word towards him, and he just sort of smiled and said, "man dont call me that no more" I remembered everyone thinking "wtf" I'm 30 now and can now completely get why he said it.
@Jazzle06
@Jazzle06 2 жыл бұрын
All I know is that I’m Mexican, grew up in Oakland, and I do not use that word and it’s also not my business, or any other community’s business, how the Black community decides to use it.
@pj4941
@pj4941 2 жыл бұрын
Latinos been using it California
@bapper78ross28
@bapper78ross28 4 жыл бұрын
With Loni's logic those singing along with a song will also feel comfortable calling you one when the situation presents itself. A pass will be used freely and without limitations.
@ryanp4396
@ryanp4396 4 жыл бұрын
Her point is that the word should not be used anywhere along the spectrum of skin color. That is not to disregard or dismiss the Black experience, which is an issue that direly needs to and should be addressed by all and any party, but to strengthen and further dignify the BIGGER PICTURE OF EQUALITY and essentially live it with dignity. Saying the word should not be used at all does not cancel out the fact that the Black community is and has been treated disproportionately or negate the importance of having these needed conversations about Black rights.
@TomikaKelly
@TomikaKelly 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp4396 My goodness, you are superfluous. 🙄 No one should steal, so I do my part by not stealing. Gina Rodriguez should've done her part but because she didn't, here we are.
@ryanp4396
@ryanp4396 4 жыл бұрын
@@TomikaKelly I'm not defending the actions of the person in this isolated incident... I'm speaking to Loni's point and round out this conversation to address the bigger picture here. It's called having a nuanced perspective. If being open to different ideas is superfluous, then so be it-I'd rather be THAT than shallow-minded and closed off to having a productive conversation, which you clearly aren't interested in having judging from your flippant use of emoji and 'end-of-story' tone.
@jdinthehouse3070
@jdinthehouse3070 4 жыл бұрын
This discussion got heated... ☕️
@FitFoxxyMama
@FitFoxxyMama 4 жыл бұрын
The n word usually does
@unknownunknown4029
@unknownunknown4029 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like Amanda at all. I happen to agree with her on this point, but I still don't like her and wish they would stop having her at the table. She isn't bringing a different or new view...she is just there. BYE!
@mimia.4810
@mimia.4810 4 жыл бұрын
Free Not really.
@jdinthehouse3070
@jdinthehouse3070 4 жыл бұрын
unknown unknown I know, I usually like her but I feel like in these recent segments she just comes across as a know it all speaking above the other ladies, like girl take it down a couple notches lol
@nasharar6946
@nasharar6946 4 жыл бұрын
" if you are unsure if you should be using the word, don't use it at all "
@Karicoproductionz
@Karicoproductionz 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up saying the n-word and I know of many Hispanics that did so as well, not in a racist way but to each other talking. But like Adrienne said if its going to leave a crack open for me to look like a racist I dont want to say it! I dont need to say it!
@makeupobsessedmommy_
@makeupobsessedmommy_ 4 жыл бұрын
Kari Guevara I’m so glad you changed your mind. Very mature and most people wouldn’t change much respect !
@ImariAlayah
@ImariAlayah 4 жыл бұрын
But SOME gay men call each other the “F” word but when somebody who isn’t gay says it, it’s rude and derogatory... so saying the “N” word if you’re not black is the same thing. Don’t say it if you’re not in that group.. PERIOD Please don’t miss the key word SOME.. The bigger issue is that the woman in the video specifically recorded herself saying the N word in the song AND has a past of doing/saying some weird things when it pertains to the Black community. So a lot of Black people are going to side eye her and be upset. Please don’t say we shouldn’t say it if that’s something that SOME Blacks choose to do... I don’t think we should reclaim this derogatory word but WE ALL do and say many things a lot of people think we shouldn’t. Thank you, have a blessed day.
@IAmVisionXo
@IAmVisionXo 4 жыл бұрын
Imari Alayah period
@xdonotenterx
@xdonotenterx 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh tho im a Latino who lives in NY and my whole life I literally thought it was ok for me to say it 😭 my black friends would say it to me I would say it to my black friends I would say it to my Latino friends I would say it to pretty much all my friends regardless of race and use it in daily convos and like wise for them. There was a point in my life where I had to train myself not to use it but it slips out sometimes cause it’s so imbedded in me lol
@moisepicard3417
@moisepicard3417 4 жыл бұрын
+Imari Alayah. So, why would you want another black person to call you The N Word? You make no sense.
@ImariAlayah
@ImariAlayah 4 жыл бұрын
Moise Picard I never said I would be called that but I say it. The point is don’t say it if you’re not Black... goodbye
@denisfl04
@denisfl04 4 жыл бұрын
Imari Alayah I’m sorry I’m gay and I have never said the “F” word to another person or been called one. Some people use it jokingly but we don’t use it regularly like black people. The most people using the “F” word are straight people because homophobia is still a problem in America just like racism. My friends have told me that I can say the “N” word but I just don’t feel like I have the right to say it either.
@miickeyzreal
@miickeyzreal 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting discussion, I’m Latino so that word ain’t for me, I understand what it represents but it’s the first time I see black women have very different opinions on it.
@Awomanontheinternet
@Awomanontheinternet 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, why wouldn't they have different opinions? Black folks are not a monolith
@al3xx3991
@al3xx3991 4 жыл бұрын
Same as a Latino male I don’t use it but it slips sometimes when I’m singing along. Growing up nobody black cares that I said it but once I got educated on it I stopped using it altogether.
@SupernaturalLove100
@SupernaturalLove100 4 жыл бұрын
A woman on the internet that part.
@RicanPrincess888
@RicanPrincess888 4 жыл бұрын
Baby Latino ain’t a race, is a culture. And pretty much nosostros somos de todo, blancos, negros y nativos. Ellos no entienden eso,
@miickeyzreal
@miickeyzreal 4 жыл бұрын
A woman on the internet I agree but usually I see most people have the same opinion. “Don’t say the word if you are not black.” So so ser other opinions, I was surprised, not going to lie. I’m mostly afraid of this conversation.
@cambamfam8165
@cambamfam8165 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that any non-black person should not be using the n word in their day to day speech or in conversations but I do believe if a non black person is enjoying a song w/ the n word in it and singing along to enjoy themselves there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to sing along and that they should just have to sit in silence or pause every time it comes a long , that is where I draw the line on certain examples of political correctness like I wouldn’t like it if someone told me I couldn’t sing a long to my favorite song just because something pertaining to something similar as this situation that idea just pisses me off.
@latoyalabine4084
@latoyalabine4084 4 жыл бұрын
It is not hard to sing along and skip a word in a song
@MsRiquelB
@MsRiquelB 4 жыл бұрын
Loni proved the point at the end .. he’s not Jewish he shouldn’t have used it Gina Rodriguez is not black she can’t use the N word it’s that simple
@sharonray3588
@sharonray3588 4 жыл бұрын
Riquel Binion EXACTLY
@malh8932
@malh8932 4 жыл бұрын
Riquel Binion exactly
@candycandy-xo9ff
@candycandy-xo9ff 4 жыл бұрын
Riquel Binion Yes
@christopherwilson868
@christopherwilson868 4 жыл бұрын
Riquel Binion Except Jewish people weren’t mad about him not being Jewish and using word, they were mad because they don’t support the word being used by anyone even themselves because it’s degrading. Do you see the difference there?
@yamiirocks
@yamiirocks 4 жыл бұрын
No.. you missed the point. Jewish people made sure he didn't use that word, because they deemed it offensive and were successful in taking down that song. She is saying black people should do the same
@kenya_bravo
@kenya_bravo 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with loni 100% I understand that the word is hurtful but again people take what others put out. We need to be more aware in general.
@NickyM_0
@NickyM_0 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Loni. 100%. We need to take responsibility for what WE put out there. We are selling music to the World with the word 'N----r' in every sentence but irrationally telling the world hey don't repeat what we said in the song because it degrades us and is a racial slur! Whaaaaat?!
@funkylilmouse
@funkylilmouse 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People in the comment section are saying she's whitewashed but they forget that as an engineer she's a very rational person, this is simply how she processes information. And I have to agree with her. We can't dismiss logic on this topic just because of cultural patterns... is saying the N-word necessary? No. Does it elevate Black people? No. So we can just get rid of it altogether.
@NickyM_0
@NickyM_0 4 жыл бұрын
@@funkylilmouse Absolutely.
@CJ-dg3bm
@CJ-dg3bm 4 жыл бұрын
To a certain degree I do agree as far as some things in the black community should be strictly kitchen table talk. But even sayong that, there is no excuse for someone to use that word and then turn around and act surprised if it has offended someone ...how assinine.
@NickyM_0
@NickyM_0 4 жыл бұрын
@@CJ-dg3bm I think we are so selective in our outrage. We had no problem with people singing along to songs that black artists filled with racial slurs yesterday but we're outraged today! That is why people are surprised we are offended.
@summervili547
@summervili547 4 жыл бұрын
Just get rid of the word, stop using it in music, end of story. If it’s such a sensitive and hurtful word it shouldn’t be used anywhere by anyone. Definitely with Loni on this one!
@SoulReaperReisha
@SoulReaperReisha 3 жыл бұрын
Just don’t use the damn word, it doesn’t even make sense
@DePiagetfan
@DePiagetfan 4 жыл бұрын
Of course, they made Michael remove the lyric BECAUSE HE WASN'T JEWISH. You just proved Amanda's point, Loni.
@draculacastle8510
@draculacastle8510 4 жыл бұрын
Not really
@AdelaideAnn
@AdelaideAnn 4 жыл бұрын
If he was Jewish, it would've been okay?
@Ionic_edge
@Ionic_edge 4 жыл бұрын
DePiagetfan I think she meant if a non black person said the N word in a song, black people wouldn’t say anything to him or they wouldn’t care
@joannasaadati8810
@joannasaadati8810 4 жыл бұрын
But Jewish people don't profit from that word either, they take it seriously when it's used.
@fabul1c1ous
@fabul1c1ous 4 жыл бұрын
@@joannasaadati8810 THANK YOU !
@andersoncameron771
@andersoncameron771 4 жыл бұрын
I like this topic. It’s real. all of those women up there are intelligent and expressed themselves wonderfully
@Idontknowimjusthere
@Idontknowimjusthere 4 жыл бұрын
Chance Porter 💯
@jackulinanton9245
@jackulinanton9245 4 жыл бұрын
Tamera contributed nothing to the convo... she asking questions to clarify for white ppl like she couldn’t answer those questions herseld
@rtmusicvideos431
@rtmusicvideos431 4 жыл бұрын
Except they were all talking over each other!
@maliksomers19
@maliksomers19 3 жыл бұрын
I get what Loni is saying and coming from; but I agree with Amanda 100%
@Jordishness
@Jordishness 4 жыл бұрын
Jeannie’s a fuqin QUEEN.
@ImAlwaysAshley
@ImAlwaysAshley 4 жыл бұрын
With Amanda on this one. If 12-year-old can censor themselves to not curse when wrapping lyrics in front of your parents, 32-year-old you can censor yourself to not use the n-word even if it's in a song. I feel like Amanda actually is standing up for what she believes is something that belongs to a particular part of her/our culture and other cultures (as well as those within it who may not agree) don't have the right to tell someone how to maneuver through their own culture. Just disagree and keep it pushin'.
@jessicag0695
@jessicag0695 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! That’s what I always think of. A lot of children and adults will purposely not curse in their parents’ presence because their parents would see it as a form of disrespect. So non-black people should do the same, but you know why they wouldn’t? Because they do not truly respect black people.
@stuffstuffer643
@stuffstuffer643 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t like the word at all. I personally think there is no use for the word. But if anyone can say it, it is black people ONLY.
@lulakeepingithonest9614
@lulakeepingithonest9614 4 жыл бұрын
_ImAlwaysAshley but then again those 12 yr olds say it when they alone or with friends just saying
@jasonr4486
@jasonr4486 4 жыл бұрын
@@lulakeepingithonest9614 right. That's like saying you can say the n word as long as it's not around black people
@pham4796
@pham4796 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I'm all for calling each other derogatory names 👏 what a great and happy society with all this name calling! You must be proud of yourself 😉 way to go Ashley !
@bsweetie2010
@bsweetie2010 4 жыл бұрын
Loni has away of backing out of supporting topics where other races need to be held accountable. If no one ever said it again the people will still say it in there home. The issue is that people are not held accountable for their actions and that some things that are meant for others may not be meant for them.
@lindsaylindsay4884
@lindsaylindsay4884 4 жыл бұрын
brittney brown I think she most likely would have had a problem if she had said it in a different context. But in general there’s no reason for ANYONE to say it it’s not a term of endearment on positive in anyway. And it’s mostly African Americans who day it so much. I’m from England and we (black people) don’t say it here
@marilynb6698
@marilynb6698 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you noticed too.
@dgrare100
@dgrare100 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. But you know she has a white BF, so she's comprimised anyway. Happens all the time, when Black people get in relationships with other races of people, they don't go all that hard for other Black people, or the Black race.
@luvrule537
@luvrule537 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like her she became stuck up
@LiseGood
@LiseGood 4 жыл бұрын
Right!!!!!
@TheBestdancer01
@TheBestdancer01 4 жыл бұрын
Me personally if the word is NOT being used in a negative way towards me or anybody else, I don’t care if it’s being said no matter your race. Because at the end of the day I know who TF I AM. Period... and that word is not it. So I will have fun with my Black, Hispanic, Jewish, Native American, White, Asian, and Indian friends singing 🎤 any and every song I want.
@CarmaDee
@CarmaDee 4 жыл бұрын
Loni made the most sense. She spoke facts not feelings.
@hallhilla9341
@hallhilla9341 4 жыл бұрын
She literally just turned her point around at the end and agreed with what Amanda was saying while not even realizing it.
@piscesbxtch7016
@piscesbxtch7016 4 жыл бұрын
“Just because it’s a lyric doesn’t mean you have to sing it” 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@Twenty5KDiamond
@Twenty5KDiamond 4 жыл бұрын
Just because it's a word doesn't mean you have to use it or put it in your records!
@deeh8064
@deeh8064 4 жыл бұрын
Twenty5KDiamond shut up
@rossboss5072
@rossboss5072 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 41y/o so I grew up in a different time from today,but even then the word was controversial amongst black people.my dad,my family would never use the word.I got fly once and used it at the diner table,lets just say I didn't do it again.but his best friend our pastor would use it all the time.my grandfather was killed by the KKK so our family had a different relationship with the word.
@Twenty5KDiamond
@Twenty5KDiamond 4 жыл бұрын
@@deeh8064 Trick you shut up! You don't know me, don't get cussed out!
@AraceliD95
@AraceliD95 4 жыл бұрын
Than you shouldn't creating peace of shyt music
@jasminejordan5120
@jasminejordan5120 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God for Amanda being a part of this conversation. SPEAK ON IT, AMANDA!
@BluBarbie95
@BluBarbie95 4 жыл бұрын
She is just like Gina tho 🤦🏾‍♀️ shes also said racist things in the past towards dark skin woman smh dont be fooled
@nissa6864
@nissa6864 4 жыл бұрын
Amanda is too damn arrogant and needs to let people talk.
@therebelsunflower
@therebelsunflower 4 жыл бұрын
Camara Rhodes it’s not just emotional for her. She has a degree in African American studies.
@victoriasmith2965
@victoriasmith2965 4 жыл бұрын
Djenissa Polynice its a screaming match now ever since she came on the show. Can't stand it. They all are yelling over eachother.
@fayestaunton3679
@fayestaunton3679 4 жыл бұрын
na she's not she just spitting facts, look at the end of the video Loni made the same point that Amanda was speaking about, u just need to listen.
@spirituallyyoung5295
@spirituallyyoung5295 4 жыл бұрын
She's intelligent and bringing a different perspective to the group
@spirituallyyoung5295
@spirituallyyoung5295 4 жыл бұрын
@@therebelsunflower yes!!! Amanda is an intelligent woman.....
@gaila.9852
@gaila.9852 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, MJ wasn't Jewish, so Loni's example was irrelevant.
@airforceshadow765
@airforceshadow765 4 жыл бұрын
Gail A. Loni has a point
@gaila.9852
@gaila.9852 4 жыл бұрын
Heyy Mars How? MJ used a Jewish slur. He was not Jewish. Lauryn Hill used the “n” word. She is black.
@mockingjayonmars
@mockingjayonmars 4 жыл бұрын
Amanda and Jeannie totally get it... their comments were SPOT ON.
@KamalIsaiahMorales
@KamalIsaiahMorales 4 жыл бұрын
!!!!
@jasonlang9074
@jasonlang9074 4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@lulluxury
@lulluxury 4 жыл бұрын
Gabbie exactly loni sound like a Uncle Tom in almost all the race topics they have
@joannasaadati8810
@joannasaadati8810 4 жыл бұрын
@@lulluxury She doesn't want her people to call each other a derogatory slur so she's an uncle Tom?? Wow
@lulluxury
@lulluxury 4 жыл бұрын
Joanna Aniela I said in some of the segments if you pay attention she against almost all of the black issues they talk about she always saying something negative
@anihtek
@anihtek 4 жыл бұрын
The song is like 30 years old, it was a different thing reclaiming the word in the 90s. But seriously we need to retire the word all together. What is the need for it in songs if its not being used for political messages and stuff like that. We use it so freely in our culture that it has lost its meaning to people, and Gina is the effect of it. Remind people of the significance of that word and dont use it so nonchalantly,
@deeh8064
@deeh8064 4 жыл бұрын
Daniella H. We need to stop victim blaming , the problem is non black people using the word when they know damn well they shouldn’t . Black people have every right to use the word
@ImJerkBoii
@ImJerkBoii 4 жыл бұрын
Except these people know the meaning of the word and its reclaimed status. They understand the significance - many of them - and they use it anyway. Its free use in contemporary black culture is due much in part to its use in the 90s and earlier. Exactly who do you think are the people who are saying it and teaching it to their children. The idea that as black people we have to police our culture because other people of other cultures want to emulate ours is ridiculous.
@diomondcandie06
@diomondcandie06 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and honestly even black people use it in a way to talk down to other blacks sometimes. It’s like the word bitch, you could say it to mean your girl friend sometimes, or you could use it to demean someone or describe someone who you feel hate towards. Both words are not always used appropriately.
@anihtek
@anihtek 4 жыл бұрын
​@@diomondcandie06 Yeah I totally agree.
@anihtek
@anihtek 4 жыл бұрын
​@@ImJerkBoii Its not about policing our culture its about respecting ourselves. Why are we using it towards each other in a demeaning way? The more we use it nonchalantly towards one and other the more we are deluding the significance of the word.
@baazic2507
@baazic2507 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t make excuses ,don’t capitalize off the word , don’t use it
@shandifox
@shandifox 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this is still a conversation.
@katabell5987
@katabell5987 4 жыл бұрын
Mannnn then conversations are so good they just need to be fleshed out more. Sometimes I wish they did 45 min segments on big topics like this with a mediator though.
@BobbiHustles
@BobbiHustles 4 жыл бұрын
Kata Bell they should !
@bluebear3550
@bluebear3550 4 жыл бұрын
Adrienne said"ever again" ..😂
@davontreader4699
@davontreader4699 4 жыл бұрын
if you didn’t grow up in new york city shut up. it is culturally different here. and it is accepted by everyone. that doesn’t make it right. but it was never seen as a bad thing.
@imanipatrice9492
@imanipatrice9492 4 жыл бұрын
Blue Bear yea but she from nyc so imma give her a pass
@daniellax334
@daniellax334 4 жыл бұрын
@@davontreader4699 lmfaooo New Yorkers def. share one thing in common, a brain cell 😂 "culturally different" so does that make y'all stupid? it's common sense and this is just an excuse.
@davontreader4699
@davontreader4699 4 жыл бұрын
daniella x literally said it wasn’t an excuse nor does it make it right. it is accepted by everyone including black people. how is one to know not to say it if it is accepted and you’re never told it was a problem. your common sense regarding that word is that it’s a term used to address someone equal with the word brother. none of the social media was around back to show that the rest of the country isn’t like that.
@christylouis2611
@christylouis2611 4 жыл бұрын
@@davontreader4699 stfu
@lx9414
@lx9414 2 жыл бұрын
It bothered me that Adrienne said she didn’t wanna say because she doesn’t wanna get in trouble as opposed to not wanting to say it because she recognises how derogatory it is
@qiyamahl9255
@qiyamahl9255 4 жыл бұрын
Loni is definitely on to something ... Aside from the artists themselves, the RECORD COMPANIES are profiting off it!! So as a people, we CAN do better. We can elevate our "terms of endearment"
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